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HomeMy WebLinkAbout2006-10-19Town of Dryden Planning Board . October 19, 2006 Members Present: Chair. Barbara Caldwell, Jim Crawford, Joseph Lalley, Joseph Laquatra, Russell Beck & David Weinstein Others Present: Ronald Beck Sr.; Henry Slater, Zoning Officer; Dan Kwasnowski, Environmental Planner; Kris Strickland, Recording Secretary Agenda: Howser Meadows Subdivision - Preliminary Approval Red Mill Bridge ■ O ■ ■ ■ ■ ■ ■ • ■ ■ ■ ■ ■ ■ ■ ■ ■ ■ ■ ■ ■ • ■ ■ ■ ■ ■ ■ ■ • ■ ■ ■ ■ ■ ■ ■ • ■ ■ • ■ ■ ■ ■ ■ ■ • ■ ■ • ■ • ■ t 0 B. Caldwell Called the meeting to order at 7:07 pm stating that T. Hatfield was not present. No one was present to represent Howser Meadows therefore a ® public hearing could not be held. The next item on the agenda. being Red Mill Bridge. H. Slater Presented an analysis from the year 2000 in which he prepared the first part plus the rest, which is, based a company from Binghamton appraisal of the condition of the bridge and the different scenarios of repair. I have talked to John Lampman and Mike Hattery from the County who may be on the Highway Committee, which may be involved with this. 1 have had an opportunity to speak with two board members and this is the general feeling that 1 presented and was supported by... initially I thought that this was a lot of money for a bridge that really doesn't do a lot. After thinking about it I realized that the bridge does do a lot. Asked the R. Beck how many people their farm employs? R. Beck Replied that it was roughly 22 people. H. Slater I thought about emergency response, there is another home on that street that would utilize this bridge. I also thought further that if both the County and Town Comprehensive Plan took a, pretty strong stance on promotion and protection of agriculture within the county and the town. Here we have one of the largest farms within the County if not in the central area, very productive and pretty much guaranteed unless some disaster occurs to be here Plarvung Board Octob, D. Kwasnowski R. Beck D. Weinstein H. Slater J. Laney H. Slater D. Weinstein H. Slater J. Laney with longevity. You have employment for 20 to 25 people. May be that bridge was a little more important than what I had originally gave it credit for. Especially when I thought about how inexpensive it will be. We discussed all the various scenarios. 1 talked with Jack Bush and if we moved down stream and built a new bridge with a new section of road to it at which the Town would be responsible for it. It would cost probably $150,000 to do that. The bridge as you know has historic preservation significance. Public funding for it is attached to some type of preservation activity if you intend to get funding assistance to rebuild or build in the neighborhood of $800,000 to $1,000,000 for this bridge. If you choose one of the SHIPO suggestions you are going to get 80% of that cost from the federal government. Though it is not guaranteed typically the State of New York would buck in another 15% of the total so now we are up to 95% and that now leaves 5% to be divided between the Town and County. You can see from this document that came today if we take the most logical and practical approach the Town can get out of this for as little as $10,000. If the people that I talked to that make that financial decision in the scheme of things don't really think that is too much money for the Town to spend to stand behind the stance we took in our Comprehensive Plan to support and promote agriculture in our community not to mention the aspect of the safety of the people who work here and the immediate access to them for fire service. That scenario says that you take the old bridge down and you save the outside butt trusses, you build a new bridge and you attach the trusses to it. You would be building a bridge to the current use and load weight capability. Asked R. Beck what weight he thought would be enough. Stated that it would be at a minimum 50 ton. Asked if it would be built to the 50 ton requested weight limit? Stated that he could not guarantee that but it could be made a recommendation from this Board. Would it be one or two lanes? Stated two lanes. Asked if anyone had spoke to the Federal people who are going to be involved about how likely it is that they would? My guess is that unless the funding comes through the bridge does not happen. Because there is no way the County is going to spend that. The County is on the ropes right now on this project. They are looking to see what the Town of Dryden stand point on this and the Town Board is looking for your recommendation. One of the issues is that if there any character of neighborhood ,e around this it would be if you increase to two lanes and the _- Planning Board Octobi D. Weinstein B. Caldwell R. Beck H. Slater J. Lalley H. Slater D. Weinstein H. Slater 0J Latley J. Laquatra potential for more traffic is this changing the character of the neighborhood. If we do not do this the traffic will continue to go through Malloryville. Questioned whether the width would meet the Beck's equipment needs. Asked what the proposed width is? Stated to replace the existing bridge the width would be 17'8". The notion is that this would then deflect any pressure currently on Malloryville. That bridge is in poor condition. The comment that the Malloryville residents would be in favor of this because it would mean less traffic. Some of the other options were to build another bridge separate from that location and leave this one in tact. Another option was to take this bridge disassemble it, take it some place else and reassemble it on a pedestrian path. We would then have the same issue the bridge is a wreck and we would still have to maintain it. The cleanest least expensive over the long haul option to qualify for funding would be to remove this bridge. Save the exterior trusses build a new bridge and return the trusses to give the appearance of a historic bridge. Asked H. Slater which recommendation he was suggesting? Made a motion to recommend to the Town Board Option #3 to build a new bridge at the same location and add the rehab trusses. This would have a minimum of 50 -tan weight limit and to be two lanes. There was continued discussion that this would reduce the pressure on the Malloryville Road Bridge and traffic. This is also to the best of the Town's knowledge this is an approved action by SHIPO. H. Slater also stated that J. Bush did not have any interest in building a new highway would not be cost effective. There is no budget for this at this time. Also, that this bridge would need to be wide enough for a snowplow. This bridge has been closed completely since the fall of 2005 and it has been reduced to 4 to 5 tons for at least 10 years. Seconded the motion Vote 5 in favor None opposed R. Beck Abstaining D. Weinstein offered to draft a letter as to reasons why the Board would like this done. - 3 - Planning Board Octobi B. Caldwell Reported to the Board that herself, Dan and David Weinstein iattended the Route 13 Corridor Committee that the County is working on. They have a very elaborate schedule that they gave us on what they would like to accomplish and when. The Board discussed the upcoming events and where the County is now on their schedule. It was also said that the corridor is from the Cortland County Line to the Town line on Route 366, The County is looking for a more detailed professional work up including recommended ordinances that the Town might want to look at. D. Weinstein feels that it is to our benefit and also stated that the County is aware of the overlay districted suggested in the Comprehensive Plan. B. Caldwell stated that they were encouraging the County to be more open with the public. She stated that the Town had good acceptance of the Comprehensive Plan and you should do so much to try to involve the general public. On the November Meeting they are sending out invitations to specific people that they would like to see there. But it will be open up to anyone who would like to go. This meeting will be November 1 A ) 2006 possibly at the Dryden Fire Department. Dan asked for any feedback on the RFP for the revision of the Zoning Ordinance, B. Caldwell had a couple of minor comments that she had already given Dan. Dan received some contact information from the National Planning Association Conference in Auburn. Mary Ann stated the Town Board's reaction to the RFP was that it would be put in the budget for next year and there was just some wording of the RFP. It was discussed to have this process in two separate phases, one being the public input /drafting phase and the other being the finalization and writing of the ordinance, which would include working with the different Boards. J. Lalley stated that there is a state law that our zoning ordinance must reflect the comprehensive plan. We actually need to involve the public to just keep them informed. At this point there is not that much flexibility we have to craft a zoning ordinance to reflect the comprehensive plan. M. Sumner stated that the Town Board is on the edge when they adopted the comprehensive plan they stated ® that this is only a plan and now we axe saying that we are making law. It is understood that the ordinance must reflect the plan but - 4 - Planning Board Octobi there are things in the plan that are never- going to pass. D. 4 Kwasnowski stated that the zoning ordinance does not have to reflect the comprehensive plan verbatim just that it has to be in the spirit of it. Dan is looking for the Planning Board to endorse the RFP. D. Weinstein made a motion to approve the RFP. J. Lalley seconded the motion All in favor Motion carried B. Caldwell Stated that she had nothing further for tonight other than some minutes. The Board concluded that they would save the minutes for the next meeting. R. Beck made a motion to adjourn at 8:01 pm Seconded by J. Crawford All in favor Meeting adjourned - - d Octob Planning Boar