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HomeMy WebLinkAbout2002-09-194 TOWN OF DRYDEN PLANNING BOARD THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 191 2002 MEMBERS PRESENT. Chairperson Barbara Caldwell, Martin Christofferson, Joe Laquatra, Jr., Natan Hut -fman, and David Weinstein ALSO PRESENT: Henry Slater, Marianne Carter, Bernard Cornelius, George Frantz. and Penny Lisi — Recording Secretary AGENDA: (1) Carter Final Plat I- leaning (2) Cornelius Final Plat Hearing (3) Long Range Plan Discussion (1) Carter Final Plat (-fearing B. Caldwell: Opened final plat hearing for Marianne Carter at 6:37 pin and read the legal notice into the record that was posted in the Ithaca Journal. She then requested Ms. Carter review her request for iMr. Huifinan as he was absent from the previous meeting. M. Carter: Briefly reviewed her request for a five acre subdivision on Sheldon Road for Mr. Huffman. D. Weinstein: Asked if it had originally been looked at as a subdivision and Ms. Carter stated it was not. M. Carter: Stated she sold three lots last year, a ten acre lot last month and now wants to sell the last five acre lot. D. Weinstein: Asked if, at an earlier request, this board approved her for a subdivision. M. Christofferson: Stated no, she was exempt from subdivision until this point due to size of the lot and time frame of selling it. H. Slater: Noted if she had chose to do nothing with this lot for five years, she would not have had to request this subdivision. B. Caldwell: Asked if there were any further questions; there were none. On a motion by Mr. Christofferson and seconded by Mr. Huffman the hearing was closed at 6:43 pm. All were in favor. B. Caldwell: Dead the Short Environmental Assessment from into the record dated August 1, 2002. H. Slater: Reviewed Type l threshold briefly for the board. B. Caldwell: Requested the board review and complete part 2 of the environmental assessment. The answers were read into the record, a r A motion for a negative declaration was motioned by Mr. Laquatra and seconded by Mr. Weinstein. All were in favor. On a motion by Mr. Laquatra and seconded by Mr. Weinstein the board approved the subdivision as presented. All were in favor. �Ir 4e * *�c'k �t �t �k �c �F iF zlr sp 7k *'!F k�k 3��e 1F �k �Ir it �k 4e 9: 9c iF sk SFr *9c �F at kit 9��r'k s': kt�te �t'k yl-�F 9r �r �k ��l-i'r �lr 4r tk 9c �c (2) Cornelius Final Plat Hearing B. Caldwell: Opened final plat hearing for Bernard Cornelius at 6:50 pm and read the legal notice- into the record that was posted in the Ithaca Journal. She then requested Mr. Cornelius explain to the board what he was proposing. B. Cornelius: Stated he is requesting to divide and build three single family dwelling houses on the proposed property. He noted he had obtained the driveway cuts from the DOT for the three pieces of property. Staged the land is dry. D. Weinstein: Asked about road frontage. B. Cornelius: Stated one will be close to the road and the other two will be substantially set back from the road. M. ChristofTerson: Asked why the one parcel was so much smaller that the other two. B. Cornelius: Stated because there needs to be a 200 foot circle. D. Weinstein: Asked if this was in an Ag District. B. Cornelius: Did not think it was but was not sure. H. Slater: Stated he did not believe it was. D. Weinstein: Asked what was around the lots. B. Cornelius: Wooded area. M. Christofferson: Asked about question #7 on the Short Environmental Assessment Form. it was written as 3 lots — one quarter acre each. H. Slater: Requested Mr. Cornelius amends the original application that Mrs. Caldwell had. M. Cornelius: Amended the. application to 3 lots — 1.13 acres, 2.12 acres and 3.12 acres and initialed it. D. Weinstein: Asked about a small lot on the left. M. Cornelius: Stated the neighbor had built something and needed a chunk of the property and is not a stand alone lot. B. Caldwell: Asked about the drainage on this property. B. Cornelius: Stated it was good. There are not Streams and is at about a 5'lo grade that slopes to Route 366 where there is a deep ditch. r. 0 B. Caldwell: Asked Mr. Slater if there were going to have to be any special drainage requirements. H. Slater: Stated there would not be as the property is quite flat. On a motion by Mr. Christofferson and seconded by Mr. Laquatra the hearing was closed at 7:00 pm. All were in favor. B. Caldwell: Read the Short Environmental Assessment from into the record and requested the board review and complete part 2 of the environmental assessment. The answers were read into the record. A motion for a negative declaration was motioned by Mr. Huff-man and seconded by Mr. ChristotTerson. All were in favor. On a motion by Mr. Weinstein and seconded by Mr. I_aquatra the board approved the request as presented. All were in favor. f. �te4t4r�': �l- ie�r�le�rek�t4ritslrit�lt* 4r�kAit�lc9e�k9c4ei: �lrits�4t9: �cicst�rir�k9t�k�l• k: Ik�k�r�k9eic�Ir�FrdF�k�eot��tslr�e�h ® D. Weinstein: Requested the approval of the minutes be postponed to the next meeting to allow for review and corrections. H. Slater: Stated there is public hearing scheduled for the next meeting. �ti: *9c4F k�r :t�k *4r�t *ic�t�ir�tk9c�kskii9: ** �kicik�k�esY�e��har��Ie�S�kie�r� +r�r:4ek9eiF k�rk9c�r�t�cirs�9ri: �: (3) Long Range Plan Discussion B. Caldwell: Opened the discussion of the long range plan at 7:10 pm. Stated the board left off on page 46 "Public and Semi - Public Infrastructure". G. Frantz: Stated the board can hold off on the section of telecommunications. B. Caldwell: Regarding the water and sewer service, she asked about the areas in the Town that they feel is important to be developed to take pressure oft-of other areas and that there may be responsibility of the Town as a whole to do primary lines to certain areas. Stated she did not see this addressed in this section. G. Frantz: `I'he fallowing sentence was added after the first sentence ofthe first paragraph: "Some of it however, such as the extension of scnvice into new areas, is likely to be financed A through the benefit district mechanism or through grants." He also stated lie would add a short paragraph at the end of page 46 saying it's necessary for the Town to be very careful in the staging of extensions of public water and sewer. B. Caldwell: Questioned the first paragraph on page 47 under "Public Safety" about the capabilities of existing organizations knowing how difficult it is to get volunteers. She asked if the network is strong enough. N. Huffman: Stated there may have to be other solutions since the events of 9111. Noted most of the organizations in the Town are coaxed out with the minimum number of people and equipment issues. G. Frantz: Stated he would put a period at the end of "... incremental in nature' and add the sentence(s) that tries to elaborate as follows: "Current services are considered adequate at the present levels with the present population but if current trends in the recruitment of and retention of volunteers continues, the Town can expect that the service capacities are not going to be adequate to serve the future populations." M. Christofferson: Noted the abundance of police department vehicles and personnel in the Village. Believed there were start up grants that helped them build so quickly however that is for Village only. Asked if there was a study for population density and the level of police and fire and noted that on any given night, there are only one or two sheriffs on to cover the entire Tompkins County. G. Frantz: Stated on a good night in Tompkins County there are two to three police cars (State or County) on. J. Laquatra: Asked if that is adequate and meets siandards. M. Christofferson: Stated it must be adequate as there are not many complaints. G. Frantz: Stated in the Town, it does not seem that crime is a major issue aside from speeding. He feels the Sheriff's Department and the State Police are adequate to cover everything but the "quality of life ". N. Huffman: Agrees with George. Stated as an EMT he has never had to wait to attend a scene to wait for proper police coverage. B. Caldwell: Part of this is due to central dispatching. M. Christofferson: The reason he brought this up was for police coverage, the Town is adequately covered but as far as fire and emergency goes, he's a little worried. Asked if this needs to be more defined in "Public Safety ". O G. Frantz: Stated lie has numbers to incorporate that shows while responses to fires has been a downward trend primarily due to building codes. M. Christofferson: Stated it needs to be noted the population is growing older. N. Huffman: Stated as population increases, the number of emergency personnel needs to increase. G. Frantz: Develop a street system that ensures the ability of emergency personnel and equipment to respond quickly and efficiently. B. Caldwell: Not just street systems but this is where she would like to have the concern of long driveways that do not accommodate emergency vehicles access. N. Huffinan: Stated in Varna alone, there are eight addresses that a mini pumper has to be used as the driveway is not accessible for the big fire truck. B. Caldwell: Stated she believes there is Something on the books regarding very long driveways in the Town of Dryden. G. Frantz: They need to have a base of 18" of gravel and a minimum of 12' wide. The other concern is the culvert pipe that needs to be adequate to handle heavy equipment without crushing. M. Christofferson: Feels the Town needs to have more than a policy. G. Frantz: Stated the more powerful wording is in chapter five. M. Christofferson: Stated the following needs to be stated, "Channeling future development into and adjacent to the traditional population centers of the town can have a secondary benefit of reducing the length of response times during emergencies." N. Huffman: Feels strongly that culvert pipes needs to be an issue to look at in the future. D. Weinstein: Asked if Jack Bush is aware of the standards for culvert pipes to accommodate heavy equipment. G. Frantz: Stated that all engineers have guidelines. B. Caldwell: Stated the next area of discussion is chapter 5 "Plan Recommendations" J. Laquatra: On page 48, the word "evolving" in the second bullet of the introduction, he was not sure of the meaning. G. Frantz: Evolving meant changing in terms of age but he will work on that. Thinks there is a misconception of what cluster subdivision or cluster development is. Stated it's a design approach to residential development. The density of any cluster development is set by the underlying zoning. Stated that Varna 1.1 is an apartment complex, not a cluster development. J. Laquatra: Whatever density is on a plot of land, you put the houses closer together and leave the rest of the land open. G. Frantz.: Yes. e J. Laquatra: Stated he feels the last sentence of the fifth paragraph on page 49 should be clarified as follows: "...in maximizing the usable open space on the tract." G. Frantz: Feels the term usable is an important term to use. D. Weinstein: Stated he has some issues with population projections because it really impacts a lot of things that are said. Stated George used the projections from 1960 and 2000 which makes it look larger because most of the growth happened in the early part. Suggested to use 1980 and 2000 as economic conditions are much more likely to like they have been for twenty years and that everything was different in the 60's. Economic conditions have not changed in the past twenty years and are unlikely to change in the next twenty years. J. Laquatra: Stated this was discussed at a previous meeting and no one knows what is going to happen during the time of this plan but we thought it would be better to err on the side of what we would be capable of-using should there be a larger influx of people. M. Christofferson: No one knows what is going to happen in the next five years and feels that if we set up ideas and guidelines and policies in zoning that really tries to preserve what the Town is looking for, and it's a working document. He is more worried about losing a farm in the area. G. Frantz: Stated the main issue is to preserve the character of the Town of Dryden. M. Christofferson: Where do you chamiel development? The school system and the Town and taxes are hurting for money for programs to run for the kids. We also need to find a place where people can build things and do some good development to that good tax base come in and help some of things and services the Town wants in the future. J. Laquatra: Feels that being too conservative on the population projection is more dangerous than planning for a larger number. B. Caldwell: Stated the next meeting will be September 25, 2002 at 6:30 pm and noted there are upcoming SEQR training sessions on 10/23 and 10/24. M. Christofferson: Moved the meeting adjourn at 9:05 pm.