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Home My WebLink About2000-09-21TOWN OF DRYDEN PLANNING BOARD AGENDA EMBERS PRESENT: September 211 2000 (1) Woodland Park Subdivision - Revised Drainage Plan (2) Long Lange Planning - Continued DiscU55ion &'?Rj Chair Barbara Caldwell, Dick Turecek, Lynn Griffin, and David Weinstein, ALSO PRESENT: Deb Grantham, Mark Varvayanis, Dave Putnam, and Doug Sutton. rr # # * *w R*YI *�w MY�Y4MY�YrkY1 /rkYl w� rrl�M /rkYl wow �� /rkM *ww l�k YI l�k Rl1k Rl�M kl�A kwi l�k Rk�! Rk (1) Woodland Park Subdivision Chair Caldwell opened the meeting at 7144 p.m. On the agenda for the night was an update and recommendation on the drainage plan for Woodland Park. D. Grantham. Henry Summarized in his letter to the Board that concerned citizens brought an issue to the Board that drainage that was suppose to be designed in the original subdivision approval had not been implemented currently, and asked that it be looked into_ The Town Board decided that Mr, Sutton needed to either show that there was a change or insure that there was one under way, D. Weinstein: O�PFZ L. Griffin D. Weinstein Passed out a letter to the members of the Board relating to the fact that for the Board to be able to reasonably assimilate the information from Mr. Sutton, there is a lot of preliminary information that the Board needs before talking about modification of drainage plans. Because there will be a modification of an approved plat, there needs to be a public hearing. No objection to Mr. Sutton presenting his information, but Board needs to recognize that it should happen in a larger context of a public hearing and evaluation of the plans, not just approval of some addition or some small modification. Clear that in the zoning ordinance it says "no final plat shall be in any way altered or revised after it has been given approval. Such alterations or revisions shall cause final plat to be null and void unless approved by the Planning Board after a public hearing." We should acknowledge that we are in a public hearing process. Made a motion that Mr. Sutton provide a list of 11 pieces of information before a drainage plan can be modified. Second to the motion. Read letter containing 11 pieces of information as mentioned. (Please see letter). Board should not comment 2 on whether modifications are a good idea without information requested. All Board members were in favor of the motion proposed by D, Weinstein_ Q. Sutton. No modification except improving according to T. G. Miller. The culverts are already in place and have been since the plat was originalh y anin Fred. The Town has responsibilities that the i d with_ D, Weinstein: The drainage plan was drawn on a previous map, not on the final plat. That is why there is a discrepancy. D_ Putnam, Only one modification between the approved drainage plan and this one, a ditch was moved so that a hedgerow could 40 be saved. D. Weinstein. What is the situation with the right -of -ways for the s ales"? D. Sutton: The Town can have the right of ways. D, Weinstein: Easements have to be moved because lots have been sold without those easements_ That is a change. D. Putnam; No specification that it has to be centered on the lot line. D. Sutton- According to Mahlon Perkins the Town does not want the easement responsibility, D, Weinstein: The Board and the Community need more information and it needs to be presented in a public forum. 0 3 D. Sutton: The Town did not fulfill their requirements, That was the reason for the standoff in 1988 -8 . D, Weinstein: Current Board does not know the details of that standoff, It is the Boards respon ihi is b u that what gets approved doesn't ore a problems, In order to give that approval the Board needs more information, Chair Caldwell: Board needs legal input from Town Attorney to clarify whether plan meets requirements, What permits are needed_ Anything that can give the Board a better feel for What this is_ D. Putnam- Town Engineer's direction was to meet with Doug Sutton and work out the details to construct the plan that had never been constructed_ That has been accomplished and in the process it was determined that one ditch should be moved from the Hunt Hill Rd right�of =way off on to a lot line to save a hedgerow, D. Grantham: The question has been raised as to whether that changes where a septic system could go, D_ Putnam: The setbacks are all still okay, The septic systems shown are for diagrammatic purposes, To show that a well and septic system will both fit on a lot, Will check to see which permits are required if any. 0 4 D. Grantham: Town Board asked that the drainage issues he sorted out, The plan needed to be specified. It wasn't specific enough. Town Board asked that the Planning Board approve it- There are some legitimate questions that have been raised. D- Weinstein- Town attorney wi 1 ll rule as t ether this constitutes a modificatio f A p n, Chair Caldwell, If it doesn't then the questions still need to be addressed. D. Button: Is the Planning Board being asked to accept what the Town engineers originally did? D- Grantham. Asking the Planning Board to make a recommendation to the Town Board as to whether what has been done is 0 sufficient. D. Putnam'. Plan was developed in 1988 and approved in 1988. The only thing missing was the details of how the drainage wars were to be constructed. The pond volumes where there, The outlets for the ponds were there- Everything was shown, but there was no specification of haw it was to be built, It was the understandtng of the Town Engineer that detailing was what was need- D. Weinstein, There should not be a retention pond that is going to cverfaow. Should the volumes be looked at again? 9 5 D_ Putnam, All subdivisions were taken into account when the original calculations were done. D. Grantham; Consult original s�,bdiv i approval with conditions, Town Attorney u � d at process the Planning Board must go through if Town does not take that easement and wants it to go to the owners- 0 6 TOWN OF DRYDEN PLANNING BOARD September 21, 2000 AGENDA: (1) Woodland Park Subdivision - Revised Drainage Plan 12) Lang Range Planning ,Continued Discussion MEMBERS PRESENT: Chair Barb �d I, ick Turecek, Lynn Griffin, and David Weinstein, ALSO PRE ENT. Deb Grantham Mark Varvayanis, Dave Putnam, and Drug Sutton, lrfkt t ** Or** *** &** * ** * ** R** *** *****A ****Nk or** /r*4k 1r*1L *** *i# **.A** a** t*i * *t4 Or* Pr** **4k **A f * +** 0411 R*91 *** lr*1b * #f 10 (2) Long Range Planning Chair Caldwell: At last meeting there was brief talk about some of the underlying feel of the community to update the general plan- Have questionnaire results been sufficiently reviewed? Would like to look at feelings of the community. This may help focus on the way to address some of the issues- Should use land use techniques to direct changes, This may help maintain things that are important to the community- D- Grantham; Identify major concerns from the survey, and make a list of things that wiril try to be handled in the master plan and zoning. 0 7 D. Weinstein: Perhaps a chart with a list of goals mentioned. This will allow for the narrowing down of ideas. Chair Caldwell. A white board to display chart and ideas. M. Varvayanis: What has been suggested makes sense. Does the Board feel confident that it can be finished up or is consulting needed? Chair Caldwell: Was previousl T ss�d that Cornell students could help with an o � D. Grantham: Perhaps a timetable will help. Chair Caldwell: Board may need more than one meeting a month. Would be helpful if village could set in on the meeting also. D. Turecek: Perhaps some daytime meetings? Chair Caldwell: Could set a time limit for each meeting to maintain Gfreshness of mind." D. Weinstein: Board could get some help from state office of planning? D. Grantham: NY Planning Fed. Has models for developing master plan. S