HomeMy WebLinkAbout1988-08-18NEXT MEETING SEPTEMBER 29, 1988
Minutes - Planning Board - Town of Dryden - August 18, 1988
Present: Caldwell, Friedman, Rotunda, Chase, Roberts, Lavine
Absent :'Slater
1. Public Hearing on Cleveland subdivision proposal off Peruville Rd. Mr. Schlecht
appeared with Mr. Cleveland and presented a plan similar to the plan we
discussed at the sketch session but with the following 3 changes:
a) The proposed ponds are not shown since they may or may not be built.
b) The road has now been centered in the land where it joins the existing road
as the Planning Board had requested.
c) An adjustment has been made per Planning Board request part way down the
proposed road to allow vehicles to turn around or pull over without going
to the end of the road. It also might be of help to school buses and
emergency vehicles.
It was noted that Lots 5 & 6 do not appear to have adequate frontage. This
can be accomplished by a simple line adjustment at the "T" end of the road and
a penciled notation of approximately how this is proposed to be done was entered
on the working map (DPB file copy). It was noted that Lot 9 (and its adjacent
lots) actually have more acreage than noted on the map. It appears that the
map notations refer to lot size which is not in the power line R.O.W. and thus
are the ones used for computing Health Dept. minimums.
We discussed the letter from the Health Dept. based on their preliminary
findings. Since the Health Dept. also requires some indication of an
adequate supply of suitable water, they intend to use existing frontage and
develop one lot before proceding to put'in the road. The lot which they
develop will not be separated from the rest of the land until /unless the
is rest of the project is completed.
The EAF (long form) was reviewed. Page 3 -18 referring to possible agriculture
district is unknown at this time but it appears that it is not significant in
regards to this proposal. There were no questions or comments from the public.
Hearing closed. Moved, 2nd, Carried that we issue a negative declaration on
the EAF based on our review wherein we found no significant impacts on any of
the major categories. Moved, 2nd,Carried that we grant preliminary subdivision
approval to the Cleveland proposal subject to the usual health department
approvals, road acceptance, and with the necessary changes to the west lines
of lots 5 & 6 to provide adequate frontage. It was noted that Mr. Slater will
be handling any necessary paperwork for the SEQRA process.
2. Sketch Conference- Stephen White & Charles Dollaway - proposed subdivision
off Wood Rd. Mr. Herrick of T.G.Millers appeared with Mr. White & Mr. Dollaway.
This is a subdivision proposed for 13 lots, minimum 1 Ac, with a new internal
road. The subdivision would be called Spruce Ridge. The proposed name of
the internal road is Spruce Lane. This may have to be changed to avoid
confusion for emergency vehicles since there is another Spruce Lane in the
county. Map (with accompanying photos) appeared to be satisfactory at this
stage to the Planning Board. Letter from Health Dept. was reviewed showing
some soil limitations which will also necessitate a drainage plan. Water
quantity in the area appears to be good though perhaps sulphur content in
some cases. Developers asked to check with Etna Fire Dept. (or possibly
reach them through the county emergency coordinator) to see what, if any,
impact there might be from the proposed new road entrance related to
• emergency vehicles. Public Hearing set for 8:00 P.M. Sept.29th NOTE MEETING DATE
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• 3. Ralph Varn - Decision on proposed subdivision (commercial) off Rt.13 near
Willow Glen cemetery - The Planning Board at the time of the Public Hearing
had decided to defer any decision on this proposal to allow Mr. Varn time
to get some response from the D.O.T. regarding potential increase in traffic
problems and ways in which these could possibly be mitigated. We also were
concerned that by approving the project we might in some way limit the options
which the DOT might have in their proposed road improvements . By coordination
with their plans we might be able to adjust the project to avoid substantial
problems later. The DOT response which Mr. Varn delivered was quite
limited (copy in project file) but Mr. Varn had brought his engineer with
him to specifically address traffic issues. The engineer, Mr. Lawrence
Fabbroni, has had specialized advanced training in traffic engineering.
The sight distance to the proposed road entrance appears to be in excess
of the approximately 800' which Mr. Fabbroni feels is adequate given the
nature of the road and its traffic. There was a lengthy discussion of
the proposed entrance, possible traffic counts for various types of uses,
possible limitations on traffic turns, delivery hours, visibility after
snow plowing, possible acceleration, deceleration and turning lanes, and
whether the cost for said lanes ought to be borne by the developer, future
owners as a group, owner whose use might trigger some numerical traffic
threshhold, by the Town or by New York State, or by some combination thereof.
Moved, 2nd Carried that we issue a negative declaration under SEQRA based on
our decision that with the exception of traffic there is little or no impact.
In the matter of traffic there is an impact but to the extent that it is
detrimental in can be mitigated. Mr. Lavine and Mr. Rotunda abstained with
Mr. Lavine wishing it be noted that he is extremely concerned over traffic risks.
Moved, 2nd Carried (Mr. Lavine & Mr. Rotunda abstaining) that we grant
preliminary subdivision approval contingent upon:
a) Acceptance of road with any necessary road permits
b) Any necessary Health Dept. permits
c) That a letter be forwarded to the Town Board in their Special Permit or
Site Development Review capacity that in any permits or review they place
on this development or any portion thereof, that they consider:
(1) Lots 1,2,3 & 4 have no curb cuts on Rt.13
(2) That Rights of Way be granted across Lots 2 & 3 for access to lots
1 & 4.
(3) That restrictions be put in for left turning movements of vehicles over
5 tons in peak hours
(4) That the Board consider methods of implementing acceleration, deceleration,
and /or turning lanes on Rt. 13 to DOT specifications whenever it
becomes evident that the ADT (Avg.Daily Traffic) will exceed 4000.
(5) That at the RB interface (toward the rear of the project) an appropriate
buffer be considered.
4. Resolution about Rt.13 projects Moved, 2nd, Carried that we set a policy for
the Planning Board that all proposals coming to the board where the land fronts
on Rt. 13 west of the Village of Dryden - be proposed that it be reasonable in
considering all such proposals to require that the developers and /or landowners
provide for appropriate improvements to Rt.13 (e.g. turning lanes, acceleration
and or deceleration lanes related to the proposal) either at the time the
permission is granted or by some mechanism or process which would automatically
be triggered according to traffic conditions. We recommend to the Town Board
that the same policy be applied to all Special Permits and Site Plan Reviews
in the same area,
B. Caldwell
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