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TOWN OF DRYDEN
Planning Board Meeting Minutes
Thursday, June 16, 1988
The meeting was called to order at 8:15 pm by Barbara Caldwell
PRESENT: Ronald Chase, Kenneth Friedman, Mitchell Lavine, Ronald
Roberts, Eugene Rotunda, Barbara Caldwell, presiding
ABSENT: Henry Slater
ALSO PRESENT: Cheryl L'Amoreaux
1. RECOMM19DATION CONTINUATION - NVE Country Acres (Expansion)
Chairman Caldwell pointed out that
the
application
received from Phil and
Alvin Simon, 370 Tompkins Street,
Acres mobile home park in McLean,
Cortland
New
York
to extend their MVE Country j
by eight additional lots was
referred to the Planning Board by
the
Town
Board under Mobile Home Park J
Ordinance, Section 40.3 for a recommendation.
At the May 12, 1988 Planning Board meeting, the
give a recommendation until certain issues were
Mr. Simon has addressed each issue as follows:
Fence around the lagoon? Mr. Simon reported th
the lagoon which has been in place since it was
Board.felt it could`not
reviewed. Since that time
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at there is a fence around
originally built.
Pond odors? Mr. Simon reported that odors emitting from the pond are
generic for this type of system and it would emit odors twice a year.
It was
noted that R.
Roberts and
K. Friedman visited the site and did not
detect
any odor emitting
from the
ponds,
The run -off to the pond with possible landscaping on area? Mr. Simon
reported that he did check with the engineers and was informed that the
pond could handle 25% more in run -off. If the pond did overflow then it
would go to a low lying area near the pond and settle on their property.
The park rules regarding parking on one side of the street? Mr. Simon
reported that there will be a new set of park rules issued later this year
which will restrict parking in the streets as all lots are provided with
two parking spaces.
The landscaping on the eight additional lots? Mr. Simon reported that the
landscaping will be the same as the rest of the park.
Lot # 1 regarding the driveway and the distance from the property? Mr.
Simon reported that the lot is 60' from the center of the road to the edge
of the lot. The land at that point is lower than the elevation of the
main road; from the main road you could look over the top of a house.
•It was noted that R. Chase and K. Friedman visited and concurs with Mr.
Simon's assessment.
Street lighting? Mr. Simon reported that street lighting is already in
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place for the additional lots. He also noted that there is added nearby
lighting on the barn.
DEC Approval? Mr. Simon reported that the Department of Environmental
Conservation have expressed no objections to the expansion of the park and
approval will be granted upon receipt of a letter of approval from the
Town as well as the application.
Recreational Space? Mr. Simon reported that there are several
recreational spaces located in the park. There is a small play ground in
the middle of the park; a mowed area in the gully (about 20,000 square
feet), and another mowed area at the other end of the park. Also provided
is a sidewalk to the McLean school across the road.
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K. Friedman reported that he felt adequate recreational space was provided
to park residents. j
Obtaining a copy of the Park's rules? Mr. Simon reported that he believes
that H. Slater, Dryden's Zoning Officer, may already have a copy of the
Park's rules, but was unsure. It was pointed out that new rules should be
available in about two months.
E. Rotunda moved that this Board approve and formally recommend to the
Town Board to approve the expansion of Country Acres by eight additional
lots with the stipulation that the Planning Board be provided with a copy
of the park's current rules and regulations. R. Chase seconded. 6 Yes,
No. Carried.
• 2. PRELIMINARY REVIEW - John and Bessie Smith (Subdivision modification)
A Preliminary Review was held to consider the application by John and
Bessie Smith, Route 322, Groton, New York to modify a subdivision on the
corner of Route 38 and Cricket Lane. This modification would create two
additional building lots comprising of Lot 14 from a previously approved
subdivision as well as additional acreage.
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Mr. and Mrs. Smith reported that several years ago development occurred on
Lots 12 and 13. A modification in the lot lines also occurred at that
time.
Chairman Caldwell pointed out that in a copy of a letter from Henry Slater
to Mr. Winn (Smith's attorney) the Dryden Town Planning Board approved an
11 -lot subdivision on June 20, 1974 and that Lots 12, 13 and 14 would be
resolved and approved at a later date. No records reveal any requests
were submitted for development of these three remaining lots.
The Board expressed concern about the development of Lots 12 and 13; and
the issuance of a building permit. It was the general consensus of the
Board that they would need to talk to the Town Attorney to ascertain what
steps need to be taken in reference to these lots.
In the meantime, Chairman
•provide the Board with an
and dated map reflecting
their proposed lots.
Caldwell requested that Mr. and Mrs. Smith
Environmental Assessment Form and a corrected
where the lot lines are currently located and
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3. PRELIMINARY REVIEW - Tom Cleveland (Subdivision)
A preliminary review was held to consider the proposal presented by Tom
Cleveland for a 9 -lot subdivision on Pruville Road. This subdivision will
comprise of approximately 30 acres and has 175' of road frontage on
Pruville Road near Scofield Road,
Mr. Cleveland presented the Board with a preliminary map reflecting the
proposed nine lots. Each lot, he pointed out, is planned with individual
8 -10' deep ponds for salable reasons and drainage. The land is relatively
flat and a 60' wide road is proposed which will go from the Pruville Road
back into the development. This road will be dead -end and approximately
1600' long with each proposed lot having at least 125' road frontage on
its
The Board expressed
concern over the area safety
of the proposed 1600'
road. Disucssion was held and
it was agreed that
a turnaround be added to
the road. Another
concern was
the possible area
restrictions from power
lines which extend
through the
property, but were
reassured that the
individual lots had
ample space
to compensate for
any area restrictions.
The
Board noted
that there are
no creeks that run
subdivision;
there
is nothing that
would obstruct
road
adjacent
or
across from it;
the land is flat;
flat
but will
be
wider, and as
far as cutting the
land
is flat
it
wouldn't create
run -off problems,
through the proposed
the road like another
the road is lengthy and
trees goes because the
. Mr. Schleck will contact the TC Health Department for approval.
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It was the general consensus of the Board to authorize Chairman Caldwell
to schedule a public hearing on Thursday, July 21, 1988 at 8:00 pm as long
as no extreme changes are made.
4. SKETCH REVIEW - Margaret Bierstock (Subdivision Modification)
A preliminary review was held to consider the application by Margaret
Bierstock for a subdivision modification in Ellis Highland. This
subdivision modification would create two lots from two and one -half.
Chairman Caldwell reported that when she first seen this proposal she
thought that approval was previously granted, but approval was granted to
the lots next to the ones requiring modification at this time. In 1985,
the Krumhansls owned land near Ellis Highlands and part of lot 45 was sold
so they added the remainder to another lot. Today's modification request
is for the remainder of Lot 45, 46 and 47. It was noted that all lots
comply with Dryden's Ordinances,
Chairman Caldwell read a letter received from the purchaser's attornary
summarizing:
- A map was enclosed reflecting lots before changes. dated 8/9/85
- The desire to develop two residential building lots from two and one -
half lots
- The sellers currently own the remain one -half of Lot 45, and all of Lots
46 and 47
- The buyers have contracted to purchase that remaining one -half of Lot 45
and one -half of Lot 46 as a single lot (this would leave one -half of Lot
46 and all of Lot 47)
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- A
map was enclosed
reflecting the proposed lots,
dated 5/18/88
A
copy of a letter
from the TC Health Department
reflecting that they
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would
consider the new
lots indiviudally as opposed
to part of the
original
subdivision
and each purchaser would need
spectic system approval
and
permit
- It
was noted that
this modification request would
not create a change in
use,
nor result in a
greater density of houses within
the development
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The Board expressed concern with the slope, and raised a question as to
where exactly the new boundry lines would be located in regards to road
frontage and conforming to the Ordinances.
It was
the general consensus of
the Board that
an attorney or
representa-
tive be
present at a
public hearing
to clarify
any questions
that may
arise,
A public hearing
will be
scheduled for
July 21, 1988
at 8 :00 pm.
Chairman Caldwell reported that the Dryden Town Board will not be acting
on the Planned Unit Development Ordinance (PUD) until late fall or,the end
of the year. She suggested that members could begin to discuss PUDs
tonight or they could familiarize themselves further for the July 21
meeting at which time the Board would start defining recommendations to be
made to the Town Board.
It was the consensus of the Board that the July 21, 1988 meeting would be
a better evening the discussion of PUDs.
Chairman Caldwell reported that she has some PUD literature which she is
willing to share with members of the Board for their review.
6. NEXT MEETING
The next meeting of the Town of Dryden Planning Board will be held on
Thursday, July 21, 1988 at 8 :00 pm.
7. MINUTES OF PREVIOUS MEETINGS
No minutes of previous meetings were approved. It was noted that all
minutes needing approval were presented to each Board member and approval
and /or corrections to those minutes scheduled for the next meeting of the
Planning Board.
There being no further business, M. Lavine moved the meeting be adjourned.
R. Chase seconded. Carried.
The meeting adjourned at 10:20 pm.