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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1982-01-21_Planning Board Town of Dryden January 21,1982 Present: Chm. B. Caldwell, B. Lavine, J. Hunt, J. Motsay, C. Evans, and Z.O. a. Stewart. B. Caldwell began at 8:00 pm by saying that there are P1. Bd. members, Town Board members, County Board of Reps. and many other interested people present. She introduced Harry Assirian from the Co. Planning Dept. to explain about the con- nector route. Harry Aissirian introduced Bill Whinn, the Cornell University Transprotation Officer who worked on the technical committee, to present and explain first. In early summer of 1980 a group of representatives from Cornell, the County, and the Town of Ithaca , formed a committee to study some existing traffic circula- tion problems in the city of East Ithaca. There area number of traffic problems that have existed for years_and in anticipation of the future and county planning in the juture Town of Dryden planning, and Village of Lansing planning, all affect what may happen to traffic in the area. The growth of the university, growth of neigh- borhoods in the N.E. area of the Town of Ithaca, in the Town of Dryden, out Ellis Hollow Rd, growth in the Snyder Hill area and all traffic circulation in E Ithaca, Forest Home,- ,?riphammer and Pleasant Grove, and all through the county's largest employer, Cornell. Areas of considerable concern starting with Rt. 79 and Pine Tree Rd. intersection.having poor sight distance and turning radius', and following thru to two difficult intersections- Pine Tree and Ellis Hollow and Judd Falls and 366. Traffic coming from Dryden and 366 area clashing with traffic from Rt. 79. For years the traffic thru Forest Home has been a great concern with it's on lane bridges and increasing traffic. The impact of the growth of the :university on that community and increasing teaching and research facilities and-growth predictions made t necessary at this paint to avoid compounding future traffic problems, and resolve existing problems. A_small technical advisory committee was rounded with town, county and iniversity reps. to do traffic studies on these roads and do envirnment al impacrt studies on sensitive areas. Such as the orchards, plantations, arberit>>m area expansion, prime ag. and wood lands golf course, Equine research, and Sap- sucker Woods. 17 The two major intersect.innG could be addressed by re- aligning a portion of Pine Tree Rd. and Ellis Hollow Rd. and creating a new portion of a road thru the Cornell orchards. After studying existing loads on Triphammer, Pleasant Grove and Warren Rd. , the solution to some traffic problems would not be the solution to every problem created over 20 years . The Triphammer corridor and Warren Rd. are near capacity now and with the growth from the Town of Dryden, the solution had to be further east. We're not planning a major super highway, but, a new road with a modest 60ft. of right of way and 40 -45 mph speed limmt. It's not a by -pass exprssway. The volume of traffic on Ellis Hollow, Pihe Tree and Snyder Hill are equal during peak hrs. with traffic converging on Judd Falls. We are not looking for a road diverting out of co. traffic around Ithaca, but, take care of local traffic problems. Zoning leads us to beleive the Village of Lansing area will be a prime residentual building area and the Industrial Park and Morse Chain will all contribute to contin- ued growth in that part of town. The project is broken down into two phases, south of 366 and north of 366. The area S. of 366 is the current problem and N. of 366 is dependant on future growth. The 19% grade problem of Warren Rd. and Forest Home and the 14% grade thru Sgrade. reese Rd. would be alleviated by a proposed road with a grade of no more than 6% Improvements would be needed on Caldwell Rd. Hill north of campus as it winds down thru the plantations. Another sensitive area is Sapsuckewoods and not to get a road too close to it„ Planning Board Town of Dryden -2- January 21,1982 The existing road running thru the middle is not an option to Rt. 13. The proposed tretch would be 16,000 ft. from the sanctuary and would tie very close with the own of Dryden's plan for the development of the Lucente property in the area. Mr. Whin noted the tapes do not indicate a scale of alignment, but, are only proximaties.. More exact locations would be int-the next phase (planning) when soil samples are taken. Questions from the audiance Where it crosses Forest Home, will that be at grade level Yes, it would be at grade- not more than 6% Is there evidence that there,iare more traffic problems and accidents at the junctions described? Yes, reports from the traffic safety board reports indicate so. With the traffic generators in the N.W. section of the map, what is it going to do to relievg traffic problems? You said the primary traffic generator is the 6niver- sity coming in and out. How are these roads going to get people in and out more effi ci en tl ty? All of tfib traffic from Snyder Hill and Pine Tree would be diverted via the new road onto campus keeping it off of Judd Falls. What is the intent of the upper part from 366 north? This provides a road with no more than a 6% grade for traffic from the N.E. to the east and any future traffic growth, instead of using Warren Rd. or Pleasant Rd. Many people asked if this is a realistic assumption to make: • Why would anyone go so far east? It looks like you're bringing more traffic into the Varna area. The road i.� at '.he top of hill. You're not bringing more traffic into Varna and Freese Rd. Can y ^u tell me who will take this new road? Who is going to go two to three miles to the east who is now rising Forest Home. You made the argument that the body of traffic will be generated in this area? This is not the answer to the traffic on �ripharineL- Rd. and the real importance of the second phase is the planning of future growth and establishing a right of way for the road when such.growth occurs. You would't get on the hew road and go The Ornathology Lab does not want that road so close. There isn't a traffic problem there now. If you don't plan now for a road in the f17ture, the road now goes thru the middle of Sapsuckerwoods and traffic will be generated thru the sanctuary. If you're on Game Farm Rd. and want to go to Rt.13 you would go right out 366 and come ouL at 1JYSEG and get on 13. You would't get on the hew road and go over to Hanshaw Rd. It makes little sense to spend the kiniof money to go from 366 up by reese Rd over to Hanshaw when you coul�! go another mile and come Light out on 13. What are the cost figures for the two phases? The cost for phase one is estimated at one million, two - hundred and ten thousand I I r Planning Board -3- Town of Dryden Dollars and phase two is estimated at two million, dollars. January 21,1982 two hundred and fifty thousand What is the thinking behind phase two? Some of the traffic will continue N. and N.E. and a very small portion will be siphoned off for the cost. What about a aood commuter bus sF7stPm to ston the nrowth of traffic? Transit won't stop all of the traffic problems. Transit hopefully will do a lot.for Triphammer and Pleasant Grove. . People going N. are still going to use Warren Rd. and people going east are going out 366 and on out to 13. Mr. Aisgirian explained about the limitations of the terrain around Freese Rd. He also told "how the plans had changed from the original alignment, but, because of the building of the Arbiretumrplans, it was pushed easterly: The basic objective out of this whole clan is safety. Where else can you have a 6% grade across Cornell? B. Lavine pointed out on the map that the problems of the bad intersections of Judd Falls would only be traded and new intersection problems created. The concern of having the new road close to the trailer park in Varna was discussed. Mr Aissirian explained that the planning for this has been carried out over a 10 ear period and Cornell's needs have changed and will continue to chang, thus, the changes in the new road. The question of how serious is this being considered came up. Mr. Nordash the Town of Ithaca Supervisor, said Ithaca's perspective is that it is urgent now, but, full potential won't be utilized until the additional growth takes place. He stated that if a solution is not planned, Forest Home will be closed to two way traffic. Many different people had their own plans for where roads should go, building bridges, moving hills, etc. Many people felt that the one with the most to gain from this new road is Cornell University. B. Caldwell asked if any Planning or Board members had any other questions. B. Lavine- if both phases get built is there consideration beyoud those traffic lights at the intersections like a third lane for left hand turns? We are talking about improved intersections anywhere this road is going. C. Cotterill asked about time schedules. The schedule shows for phase one, 79 to 366, that after the preliminary conceptual study, construction could be complete by 1984. Then a study on how phase one is �orking and phase two done by-1987. He noted this is being very optimistic. C. Cotterill said the county will make the final decision on which phase is built first, but, they would like recommendations from Planning and Town Boards to help them make their decision. I Planning Board -g- '=' Town of Dryden Ken Tillapaugh said before anything Town of Ithaca, Town of Dryden, ToMpkins No formal meetings have been sit as tatinn Commission. the Countij Board of R, it goes before the full Board. January 21. 1982 gets done, acceptance has to be made by the County, and Cornell University. to the .formal oresentat.ion to the Transoor- Pps.,but, will go thru the committee before The Town Bd. is looking f6r comments and recommendations from the Planning Board. Public meeting closed. Planning discussion. Be Caldwell stated that phase two looks like a long way off. J. Hunt- If you cut off_the traffic at Judd Falls Rd. on the campus this would resolve many problems making people from only one side and fewer people using it and going out thru Caldwell Rd. Be Lavine- That increases traffic in this stretch so, you have the same problem. In his opinion, phase two is what the Planning Bd. is to give opinions on. He stated it is the most expensive and will not serve any pruposes and serves the least use. J. Hunt comments that there are no two lane bridges from Etna to Fall Creek and wondered if there is a need for a two lane bridge. Be Lavine asked if anyone had anything to support the building of phase two. He pointed out if they built only phase one Forest Home would have even more traffic . If they did both parts, it would have the same amount. He felt spending Orney on improving the two intersections would be better. (Game Farm Rd and Freese d on 366) Be Caldwell asked if Forest Home were closed off, how would the members be affected? This was discussed and realized it would not be that bad.having traffic going clockwise one way. They considered the speed of cars increasing. Be Lavine said he would like to make a resolution as part of the recommendation the Town Board that: They reject the concept of phase two as currently presented. It was seconded by Joe Motsay based oii the discussion. Be Caldwell said she has some concerns about Freese Rd. and the traffic it's carrying and coming upon 366 with poor sight line. If phase one were built, traffic would increase. Phase two might be beneficial for school buses on Freese Rd. She asked if traffic.,-lights would help the intersection. It was decided if you were below the crest and the roads were slick, you would never make it up. She asked what could be done to make it safer, if you were coming out on Game Farm Rd. and turning left to go to campus. Recommendation: Make it a perpendicular turn, taking the turn out and making a loop at the end so when addressing Rt. 366 uou would be perpendicular. It's hard to judge speed of oncoming cars. Vote: Be Lavine -yes, J. Hunt_ yes, Be Caldwell- nay. OaA motion was made by J. Hunt that a recommendation to the Town Board be made 'to ploy and_•get some�,p,rofessional engineering opinions on improvements that can be .de.at the intersection of 366 and Freese Rd. The motion was seconded by Be Lavine . Motion carried. J i F Planning Board Town of Dryden -5- January 21, 19&c2 B. Lavine moved that phase one as proposede{ be rejected as proposed, and in it's place concentrate on improving the intersections, the two ends of Judd Falls Rd. between Ellis Hollow and 366. is He feels the expense of the proposed phase one will not do any more than a much lower':expense for improving the intersections at Judd Falls and Ellis Hollow. J. Hunt seconded the motion. The motion carried. n V i Planning Board Town of Dryden January 21st,1982 The January Planning Board Meeting was. called to order at 7:30pm by Chairwoman dCaldwell. Other members present were J. Motsay, B. Lavine, J. Hunt, C. Evans, own Bd. representative, and Z.O. S. Stewart. A public hearing was held to consider thiz application of Finger Lakes Stone on a four lot_sub- division on R71iG Ho71ow Rd. on the Town Rd. between the Osborn property and the power line. Present was Ornsby Dolph Jr. who presented a map for members to see. B. Caldwell asked if all of the lots are 200 ft and the Health Dept. can get their circle on the lots. Mt. Dolph said yes and there had been some soil sample testing done. He ex- plained the reason for doing the sub - division now is that it is tied up in an es- tate and would like to get it distributed. He explained that there is a 100 ft* right of way for power lines and another 75 ft. between Corr Drosts and his corner of the power °line. All lots are just under 80,000 sq. ft. B. Caldwell asked about any experience of getting water in Dolph said that for a single dwelling he has never heard of any said that there would be an architectual review board to handle .Simi Tar t-n t-ho wi�irnri, Hiahlands with filed deed restrictions. there. Mr. problems. the whole He also thing, B. Caldwell asked that deed restrictions should be given to Planning Board be- for final go ahead is given. She also asked if an envirnmental assessment form had been filled out from Mr. Dolph. He said he had it the last time, but, forgot o bring it this time. B. Caldwell said she remembered going over it. He said hat he would send the long form since he had to do it for the Health Dept, B. Lavine asked if he were treating the one parcel of land any differently from the others since it is next to the power line. Mr. Dolph said that his mother and one of his sisters is going to own it together after the lot is in their name. After that, he will have nothing to do with it. He said if someone came along with plans, he would build on it, but, not to specs. Mr. Dolph had a question with regards to building a house on parcel in the spring. He doesn't have enough money to run a road up thru there and turn it over to the town. Eventually, this lot is going to have frontage when the sub - division goes thru. He asked what is the Board's opinion on a variance for a building permit to build his own residence in the spring. He is presently living in his office. He and Z.O. S. Stewart have discussed this. J. Hunt said that on one lot it's pretty much out of P1. Bd's hands until he's ready to get approval for the whole thing, which would mean going to ZBOA and asking for a variance. Whether he would be granted the variance, he did not know. Mr. Dolph said that he had been befoxethem and they said he couldn't do any- thing until it goes thru as a sub - division, which he stated he is doing now. B. Lavine and J. Hunt both said, however, he's not thru it yet, but, going hru the process. 40 C. Cotterill said he would like to add that the Town Bd. has said that they don't want any permits granted where there is a lot without public road frontage. If he wants to call all of his land one lot and that orders a public road, he can P I I Planning Board Town of Dryden .2- et a hermit. In that case all of his land is one lot until is your approval (Pl. Bd.). The Town Bd's. point is that thing built without public road frontage. January 21st,1982 he sub - divides it and they do not want any- Mr. Dolph explained that there is public road frontage for 114 of it. All property over to Quarry Rd. is continuous, but, is in the name of Finger Lakes Stone Co. and he would have to build in that name and then buy it for say a dollar, but, he would like to ao ahnuf- it by a more direct means. He also informed the Bd. members that before this, the Town of Dryden gave him a building permit dealing with road frontage on Quarry Rd. and a piece of land that was all one piece and had nothing to do with that on Ellis Hollow. B. Lavine stated that if that were the case, then the same restrictions that the ZBOA put on Mr. Dolph's last situation B. in terms of what he could do after that would apply here also because it's the same road frontage being talked about. In other words, they considered the Quarry Rd. frontage as what was needed for those two housed and with that consideration, this is as far as you can go until you sub - divide. Mr. Dolph agreed as long as he was building and selling a house. B. Lavine said that in his interpretation he would assume that it is a ZBOA matter. =and should be funneled back to ZBOA for a hearing. On the four lots in question, B. Caldwell asked for a motion. B. Lavine moved that the Pl. Bd. give approval of this public hearing and Ohat this is preliminary approval only. J. Hunt made a friendly amendment that an envirnmental assessment statement he s>>bmitted, the long form, and sent to Barbara. B. Lavine accepted that amendment and also added that approval be contingent upon all other agencies. The motion was seconded. It passed unanimously. Mr..ndlph asked about what kind of time they were talking about. B. Caldwell said if he,could get all of his paper work done, they could give final approval at February's meeting. The hearing closed at 7:55 pm. - . Planning Board Town of Dryden January 21,1982 Present: Chm, B. Caldwell, B. Lavine, J. Hunt, J. Motsay, C. Evans, and Z.O. Stewart. B. Caldwell began at 8:00 pm by saying that there are P1. Bd. members, Town Board members, County Board of Reps. and many other interested people present. She introduced Harry Mssirian from the Co. Planning Dept. to explain about the con- nector route. Harry Missirian introduced Bill Wendt, the Cornell University Transportation Officer who worked on the technical committee_, to present and explain first, j In early summer of 1980 a group of representatives from Cornell, the County, and the Town of Ithaca formed a committee to study some existing traffic circula- tion problems in the city of East Ithaca. There are a number of traffic problems that have existed for years and in anticipation of the future and county planning in the future Town of Dryden planning, and Village of Lansing planning, all affect what may happen to traffic in the area. The growth of the university, growth of neigh- borhoods in the N.E. area of the Town of Ithaca, in the Town of Dryden, out Ellis Hollow Rd, growth in the Snyder Hill area and all traffic circulation in E Ithaca, Forest Home, Triphammer and Pleasant Grove, and all through the county's largest employer, Cornell. Areas of considerable concern starting with Rt. 79 and Pine Tree Rd. intersection having poor sight distance and turning radius', and following thru to two difficult intersections- Pine Tree and Ellis Hollow and Judd Falls and 366. Traffic coming from Dryden and 366 area clashing with traffic from Rt. 79. For years the traffic thru Forest Home has been a great concern with it's one lane bridges and increasing traffic. The impact of the growth of the university on that •community and increasing teaching and research facilities and growth predictions made t necessary at this point to avoid compounding'future traffic problems, and resolve existing problems. A small technical advisory committee was founded with town, county and university reps. to do traffic studies on these roads and do envirnment- a1 impact studies on sensitive areas. Such as the orchards, plantations, arberit>>m area expansion, prime ag. and wood lands golf course, Equine research, and Sap- sucker Woods. The two major intersect -innG could be addressed by re- aligning a portion of Pine Tree Rd. and Ellis Hollow Rd, and creating a new portion of a road thru the Cornell orchards. After studying existing loads on Triphammer, Pleasant Grove and Warren Rd* the solution to some traffic problems would not be the solution to every problem created over 20 years The Triphammer corridor and Warren Rd. are near capacity now and with the growth from the Town of Dryden, the solution had to be further east. We're not planning a major super highway, but, a new road with a modest 60ft, of right of way and 40 -45 mph speed 1imvt. It's not a by -pass expresway. The volume of traffic on Ellis Hollow, Pine Tree and Snyder Hill are egual during peak hrs. with traffic converging on Judd Falls. We are not looking for a road diverting out of co. traffic around Ithaca, but, take care of local traffic problems. Zoning leads us to beleive the Village of Lansing area will be a prime residentual building area and the Industrial Park and Morse Chain will all contribute to contin- ued growth in that part of town. The project is broken down into two phases, south of 366 and north of 366. The area S. of 366 is the current problem and N. of 366 is dependant on future growth. The 19% grade problem of Warren Rd. and Forest Home and the 14% grade thru reese Rd. would be alleviated by a proposed road with a grade of no more than 6% grade. Improvements would be needed on Caldwell Rd. Hill north of campus as it winds down thru the plantations. Another sensitive area is Sapsuckewoods and not to get a road too close to itp, .:e Planning Board Town of Dryden -2- January 21,1982 The existing road running thru the middle is not an option to Rt. 13. The proposed tretch would be 16,000 ft, from the sanctuary and would tie very close with the own of Dryden's plan for the development of the Lucente property in the area. Mr. Wend oted the tapes do not indicate a scale of alignment, but, are only proximaties. /More exact locations would be in the next phase (planning) when srii7 samples are taken. Questions from the audiance Where it crosses Forest Home, will that be at grade level? Yes, it would be at grade - not more than 6% Is there evidence that there.are more traffic problems and accidents at the junctions described? Yes, reports from the traffic safety board reports indicate so. With the traffic generators in the N.W. section of the map, what is it going to do to relieve,traffic problems? You said the primary traffic generator is the univer- sity coming in and out. How are these roads going to get people in and out more efficiently? All of the traffic from Snyder Hill and Pine Tree would be diverted via the new road onto campus keeping it off of Judd Falls. What is the intent of the upper part from 366 north? This provides a road with no more than a 6% grade for traffic from the N.E. to the east and any future traffic growth, instead of using Warren Rd. or Pleasant Rd. Many people asked if this is a realistic assumption to make. 0 Why would anyone go so far east? It looks like you're bringing more traffic into the Varna area. The road i.5 at ::he top of h1171 You're riot bringing more traffic into Varna and Freese Rd. Can y ^u tell me who will take this new road? Who is going to go two to three miles to the east who is now rising Forest Nome. You made the argument that the body of traffic will be generated in this area? This is not of the second phase the answer to the traffic on is the planning of future Triphanuier growth and Rd, and the real importance establishing a right of way for the road when such growth occurs. will be The Ornathology Lab does not want that road so close. There isn't a traffic problem there now. if you don't plan now for a road n the f17ture, the road now goes thru the Middle of Sapsuckerwood.s and traffic will be generated thru the sanctuary. If you're and come ouL at It on Game Farm Rd, and Lv.11SEG and get on 13. makes little sense want to go You would't to spend the to Rt.13 you get on the kiniof money would go right hew road and go to go from 366 out 366 over to up by OHanshaw.Rd. reese Rd over to Hanshaw when you could go another mile and come right out on 13. What are the cost figures for the two phases? The cost for phase one is estimated at one million, two - hundred and ten thousand I Planning Board -3- January 21,1982 Town of Dryden Dollars and phase two is estimated at two million, two hundred and fifty thousand dollars. What is the thinking behind phase two? Some of the traffic will continue N. and N.E. and a very small portion will be siphoned off for the cost. What about a aopd commuter bus s>>stPm to stop the nrowf-h of traffic? Transit won't stop all of the traffic problems. Transit hopefully will do a lot for Triphammer and Pleasant Grove. People going N. are still going to use Warren Rd, aAd people going east are going out 366 and on out to 13. Mr. Mis&irian explained about the limitations of the terrain around Freese Rd. He also told how the plans had changed from the original alignment, but, because of the building of the Arbiretum plans, it was pushed easterly. The basic objective out of this whole plan is safety. Where else can you have a 6% grade across Cornell? B. Lavine pointed out on the map that the problems of the bad intersections of Judd Falls would only be traded and new intersection problems created. The concern of having the new road close to the trailer park in Varna was discussed. Mr Missirian explained that the planning for this has been carried out over a 10 d ear period and Cornell's needs have changed and will continue to change thus, the changes in the new road. The question of how serious is this being considered came up. Mr. Desch, the Town of Ithaca Supervisor, said Ithaca's perspective is that it is urgent now, but, full potential won't be utilized until the additional growth takes place. He stated that if a solution is not planned, Forest Home will be closed to two way traffic. Many different-people had their own plans for where roads should go, building bridges, moving hills, etc. Many people felt that the one with the most to gain from this new road is Cornell University, B. Caldwell asked if any Planning or Board members had any other questions. B. Lavine- if both phases get built is there consideration beycan.d those traffic lights at the intersections like a third lane for left hand turns? We are talking about improved intersections anywhere this road is going. C. Cotterill asked about time schedules. The schedule shows for phase one, 79 to 366, that after the preliminary conceptual study, construction could be complete by 1984. Then a study on how phase one is �orking and phase two done by 1987. He noted this is being very optimistic. C. Cotterill said the county will make the final decision on which phase is built first, but, they would like recommendations from Planning and Town Boards to help them make their decision. i Planning Board Town of Dryden Ken Tillapaugh said before anything Town of Ithaca, Town of Dryden, Tompkins No formal meetings have been stat as tation Cnmmission. th? Count» Board of R it goes before the full Board. .4- January 21. 1982 gets done, acceptance has to be made by the County, and Cornell University. to the formal presentation to the TranSDO.r- tps.,but, will go thru the committee before The Town Bd. is looking for comments and recommendations from the Planning Board. Public meeting closed. Planning discussion. B. Caldwell stated that phase two looks like a long way off. J. Hunt- If you cut off the traffic at Judd Falls Rd. on the campus this would resolve many problems making people from only one side and fewer people using it and going out thru Caldwell Rd. . B. Lavine- That increases traffic in this stretch so, you have the same problem. In his opinion, phase two is what the Planning Bd. is to give opinions on. He stated it is the most expensive and will not serve any purposes and serves the least use. J. Hunt comments that there are no two lane bridges from Etna to Fall Creek and wondered if there is a need for a two lane bridge. B. Lavine asked if anyone had anything to support the building of phase two. He pointed out if they built only phase one Forest Home would have even more traffic . If they did both parts, it would have the same amount. He felt spending Od oney on improving the two intersections would be better. (Game Farm Rd and Freese on 366) B. Caldwell asked if Forest Home were closed off, how would the members be affected? This was discussed and realized it would not be that bad having traffic going clockwise one way. They considered the speed of cars increasing. B_ Lavine sai_d_1he_woul.d._ like.to_make._a _ resolution_as.part.of the recommendation to_ the Town Board that_ They_rej_ (Zt._the concept of_phase_two_as_currently_ presented. It was seconded by Joe Motsay based _oi1_ the _ discussion.: B. Caldwell said she has some concerns about Freese Rd. and the traffic it's carrying and coming upon 366 with poor sight line. If phase one were built, traffic would increase. Phase two might be beneficial for school buses on Freese Rd. She asked if traffic lights would help the intersection. It was decided if you were below the crest and the roads were slick, you would never make it up. She asked what could be done to make it safer, if you were coming out on Game Farm Rd, and turning left to go to campus. .Recommendation :__ .Make-it _a .perpendicular turn,-taking-the-turn-out-and-making a loop at the end so when a_ddress_i_ng Rt._ _366 _ou_ would be perpendicular. . _It's . hard to judge speed of oncoming cars. Vote_ B. Lavine -yes J. Hunter _yes, _B_, _Caldwell_- nay,_ J. Motsay -yes. A. motion was made by J._ Hunt that a, recommendation to. the .Town Board be made to elade nploy and get some professional __engineeringOpini_ons.on. improvements that can be at the _intersection of 366 _and_Fre_ese Rd. The motion was seconded by B. Lavine Motion carried. w Planning Board Town of Dryden .5- January 21, 1982 B. Lavine moved that _phase one_as _proposed; be rejected _as _proposed, and in it's q ace concentrate on improving the intersections, the two ends of Judd Falls Rd. between Ellis Hollow and 366. He feels the expense of the proposed phase one will not do any more than a much lower expense for improving the intersections at Judd Falls and Ellis Hollow. J. Hunt seconded the motion. The motion carried. The meeting was adjourned. F Respectfully submitted, Jane Koelsch