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Home My WebLink About1980-09-18Planning Board Town of Dryden Present: Chw. Caldwell, Zo. S. Stewart September 18, 1980 T. Bonn, B. Hamilton, J. Hunt, B. Lavine, C. Dann, The Planning Board opened the meeting with the approval of last month's minutes. There were no corrections or additions, so minutes were approved as submitted. Representing the residence of Peaceful Drive were Mr. and Mrs. Barry Cooper and Mr. and Mrs. William Schutz. They had been to the public hearing held Tuesday, September 16, 1980, that the Town Board conducted, concerning Mr. Douglas Sutton's plan to realign the road. Mr. Cooper's main concern with the proposal is unfair to change the realignment especially when there is no real reason to do it. There is one person who favors it, because it moves the road further from his house and gives him more land to buy from Mr. Sutton. The Planning Board at that time, said they had no objections as long as all the people on the street that were affected by the proposal, could agree. Consequently, they don't agree. Mr. Cooper tried several times to discuss a compromise situation with both Mr. Sutton and the Halls but, they have never shown any favor to this. Mr. Cooper has been trying to buy the lot from Mr. Sutton for 1J� years. At the meeting Tuesday evening, Mr. Sutton stated he would sell Mr. Cooper the lot after everything is settled. If the Planning Board and Town Board accept the proposal to realign the road, then Mr. Sutton will offer to sell Mr. Cooper, as he stated, the new triangular lot, which would be of no use to him. If proposal refused, then maybe Mr. Cooper can settle the deal originally agreed upon, which is for the existing lot' #5. The reason Mr. Cooper particularly doesn 't want it, besides having cars speed around the corner outside his bedroom window, is to plant trees to protect his house from the wind in the winter. The Town Board was looking for Planning Board's feelings concerning the proposal. Mr. Bonn stated he felt the Planning Board was at a disadvantage due,to two new members, no drawings, haven't heard the discussion of Tuesday's meeting and no opposing point of view. It would be unfair to reach a decision. Chairwoman Caldwell asked if Mr. Cooper could write a letter stating the concerns of the proposal. Mr. Cooper will write a letter plus supply a copy of the plans that Attorney Perkins had given him. Mr. Lavine stated that there were two things, he recalled from April meeting and before, I i Mr. Cooper stated that in the Planning Board's meeting of May 1979; when it was discussed, he registered the same complaint. He said at that time, he was willing to consider some sort of a compromise situation with the road, if they thought it was so critical to curve the road. That's fine, but curve it so it doesn't come up a lot further. At least it would give him a reason- able buffer between his house and the way the road would curve. The Planning Board at that time, said they had no objections as long as all the people on the street that were affected by the proposal, could agree. Consequently, they don't agree. Mr. Cooper tried several times to discuss a compromise situation with both Mr. Sutton and the Halls but, they have never shown any favor to this. Mr. Cooper has been trying to buy the lot from Mr. Sutton for 1J� years. At the meeting Tuesday evening, Mr. Sutton stated he would sell Mr. Cooper the lot after everything is settled. If the Planning Board and Town Board accept the proposal to realign the road, then Mr. Sutton will offer to sell Mr. Cooper, as he stated, the new triangular lot, which would be of no use to him. If proposal refused, then maybe Mr. Cooper can settle the deal originally agreed upon, which is for the existing lot' #5. The reason Mr. Cooper particularly doesn 't want it, besides having cars speed around the corner outside his bedroom window, is to plant trees to protect his house from the wind in the winter. The Town Board was looking for Planning Board's feelings concerning the proposal. Mr. Bonn stated he felt the Planning Board was at a disadvantage due,to two new members, no drawings, haven't heard the discussion of Tuesday's meeting and no opposing point of view. It would be unfair to reach a decision. Chairwoman Caldwell asked if Mr. Cooper could write a letter stating the concerns of the proposal. Mr. Cooper will write a letter plus supply a copy of the plans that Attorney Perkins had given him. Mr. Lavine stated that there were two things, he recalled from April meeting and before, I i 7 •t� ` Planning Board a4, ..,Town of. Dryden FYI - ; -2- September 18, 1980 1) the landowners would be consulted before action taken to 2) , major reason for moving the road and having the curve, was ` Headlights facing the Hall's house. r Id ,.'}l !: 1 PC4 'I glf�� %r:`- Mr. Cooper stated that at Tuesda 's meetin g. Mr. Hall did mention the lights but_his.•maim reason was to' get the road as far from his house as'possible. Mr. JFyGdoper stated he w.ants.to..keep the road where it is because he doesn't want the ' "ro'ac3. close - to.`,his house on two sides. PC PC ^ Mr ; S0hu.tz stated :that the Jou•rsicks were never contacted and since then �aaN< i.' n.r,r y ,NIr .1_Joursicks•:has died ; Also a possibility of selling the property. The PC IT 1({ `lawyers;�representing his widow; ha,vev'•not been consulted. ltsa ej F1 t i.. • - kEs� M:rs: Cooper stated the way,.the road, is now, there is no headlight problem #fi r, * {t; for the"� Halls . PC ' t/ <.:. d PC Mr 0 ' 'Bonn "ma de. `motio i n'' that the' Town Board reserve their decision until ,. P. 4, Planning Board has; thei.o,portuni.ty to give them some advice. Motion second I. ; . r; :_ .; by .,Mr.., 'Hunt. " All members voted,';yes,' motion carried. I. i}r The people to be contacted.and be present for October 16; 1980 informational nt PC., , meeting are: "'• 1) Douglas Sutton 10 1 +'` 2)• Mr. and Mrs. Charles Nim.- 1 Peaceful Drive 3) Mr. and Mrs. WM. Schutz - 6 It to 4) Mr. and Mrs. Barry Cooper -8 ;; .• 5) Mr. and Mrs. Michael Hall -7 6) Representative from Thaylor and Thaylor , lawyers for Robert Joursick Estate.' Other Discussion: Chairwoman Caldwell stated Mr. Hanshaw_.will be at October meeting con- cerning his development in Ellis"Highlands and will bring a topography map. County Planning Report: .Chairwoman Caldwell stated the Route 13 corridors are being discussed again. There is a faint possibility that Cortland may change its mind. May possibly open up the further north route again, Zoning Officer Stewart presented a drawing from Douglas Sutton concerning 14 acre parcel off Eagles Head Road; with combineing frontage. The person buying the parcel, possibly would divide lot.in future. If at that time he would have to see Zoning Board of Appeals to get variance because of lack of road frontage. Also involved is a parcel on Ringwood Court, which originally was owned by Cornelius and could not be used because not enough area to build. They sold it and in return it was bought for taxes. Someone -ants to build on it. Mr. Sutton may buy this parcel, ac "ing to other part of 1 �cel to make another lot: �l ..: Planning Board Town of Dryden -3- September 18, 1980 0 - Planning Board wasn't sure if there could then be three building lots making it be a.su b- division. Chairwoman Caldwell stated an earlier.ruling, as made by late Attorney Amdure, making one lot large enough to build on and not considered a sub - division. Chairwoman Caldwell will see Attorney Perkins and get a ruling on this. In the meantime, Mr. Stewart can fissure a permit for the one parcel off Eagles Head Road. Meeting adjourned at 9:00 PM Respectfully submitted, nt Joan Bray - Secretary I E } Planning Board Town.nof Dryden Present: Chw. Caldwell, Zo. S. Stewart s September 18, 1980 T. Bonn, B. Hamilton, J. Hunt, B. Lavine, C. Dann, The Planning Board opened the meeting with the approval of last month's minutes. There were no corrections or additions, so minutes were-.approved as submitted. Representing the residence of Peaceful Drive were Mr. and Mrs. Barry Cooper and Mr. and Mrs. William Schutz. They had been to the public hearing held Tuesday, September 16, 1980, that the Town.'-:Board conducted, concerning Mr. Douglas Sutton's plan to realign_1.the road. Mr. Cooper's main concern with the proposal realignment especially when there is no real rea one person who favors it, because it moves the ro and gives him more land to buy from Mr. Sutton. is unfair to change the on to do it. There is d further from his house Mr. Cooper stated that in the Planning Board's meeting of May 1979, when it was discussed, he registered the same complaint. He said at that time, he was willing to consider some sort of a compromise situation with the road, if they thought it was so critical to curve the road. That's fine, but curve it so it doesn't come up a lot further. At least it would give him a reason- able buffer between his house and the way the road would curve. The Planning Board at that time, said they had no objections as long as all the people on the street that were affected by the proposal, could agree. Consequently, they don't agree. Mr. Cooper tried several times to discuss a compromise situation with both Mr. Sutton and the Halls but, they have never shown any favor to this. Mr. Cooper has been trying to buy the lot from Mr. Sutton for 1-� years. At the meeting Tuesday evening, Mr. Sutton stated he would self Mr. Cooper the lot after everything is settled. If the Planning Board and Town Board accept the proposal to realign the road, then Mr. Sutton will offer to sell Mr. Cooper, as he stated, the new triangular lot, which would be of no use to him. If proposal refused, then maybe Mr. Cooper can settle the deal originally agreed upon, which is for the existing lot #5. The reason Mr. Cooper particularly doesn 't want it, besides having cars speed around the corner outside his bedroom window, is to plant trees to protect his house from the wind in the winter. The Town Board was looking for Planning Board's feelings concerning the proposal. Mr. Bonn stated he felt the Planning Board was at a disadvantage due to two new members, no drawings, haven't heard the discussion of Tuesday's meeting and no opposing point of view. It would be unfair to reach a decision. Chairwoman Caldwell asked if Mr. Cooper could write a letter stating the • concerns of the proposal. Mr. Cooper will write a letter plus supply a copy of the plans that Attorney Perkins had given him. Mr. Lavine stated that there were two things, he recalled from April meeting and before, i I a Planning Board Town of Dryden -2- 1) the landowners would be consulted before action 2) major reason for moving the road and having the headlights facing the Hall's house. September 18, 1980 taken curve, was Mr. Cooper stated that at Tuesday's meeting, Mr. Hall did mention the lights but his main reason was Cooper stated he wants to get to keep the road as far from his house the road where it is because he as possible. Mr. doesn't want the road close to his house on two sides. Mr. Schutz stated that the Joursicks were never contacted and since then Mr. Joursicks has died. Also a possibility of selling the property. The lawyers representing his widow, have not been consulted. Mrs.�Cooper stated the way the road is now, there is no headlight problem for the Halls. Mr. Bonn made the motion that the Town Board reserve their decision until the Planning Board has the opportunity to give them some advice. Motion second by Mr. Hunt. All members voted yes, motion carried. The people to be contacted and be present for October 16, 1980 informational meeting are: 1) Douglas Sutton 2) Mr. and Mrs. CharlesJNim - 1 Peaceful Drive 3) Mr. and Mrs. Wm. Schutz - 6 It it 4) Mr. and Mrs. Barry Cooper -8 FF 5) Mr. and Mrs. Michael Hall -7 FF 6) Representative from Thaylor and Thaylor lawyers for Robert Joursick Estate. Other Discussion: Chairwoman Caldwell stated Mr. Hanshaw.will be at October meeting con- cerning his development in Ellis Highlands and mill bring a .topography map. County Planning.Report: Chairwoman Caldwell stated the Route 13 corridors are being discussed again. There is a faint possibility that Cortland may change its mind. May possibly open up the further north route again. .Zoning Officer Stewart presented a drawing from Douglas Sutton concerning 14 acreparcel off Eagles Head Road, with combineingfrontage. The person buying the parcel,»possibly would divide lot in future. If at that time he would have to see Zoning Board of Appeals to get variance because of lack of road frontage. is Also involved is a parcel on Ringwood Court, which originally was owned by Cornelius and .could not be used because not enough area to build.. They sold it and in return it was bought for taxes. Someone wants to build on it. Mr. Sutton may buy this parcel, adding to other part of parcel to make another lot. TP Planning Board Town offDryden .3- September 18, 1980 Planning Board wasn't sure if there could then be three building lots making.it be acsu b- division. Chairwoman Caldwell stated an earlier ruling, as made by late Attorney Amdure, making one lot large enough to build on and not considered a sub - division. Chairwoman In the meantime, Caldwell will see Attorney Perkins and get a Mr. Stewart can issure a permit for the one ruling parcel on this. off Eagles Head Road. Meeting adjourned at 9:00 PM Respectfully submitted, nt Joan Bray - Secretary