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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1969-04-08....1._,a: -: _..•.v..v._ . �._.:... ui_ u... a_•___. i_..�....r.;ai_....�.�,_....... .—...:: 2.!_,_.._. 1: �:: :__.�..:.us:!ut:....:..�ut'1r:i �+l^,. _!.1i.i'...__._... :.:L::��.. . ss..• �,. ss�:...... �_..,_,...........��._�_._.__•� -_•__.. .a............_.........�....,_ TOWN OF DRYDEN DRYDEN, NEW YORK ' t , , Y*��l . . I I April 8, 1969 IN THE HEART OF FINGER LAKES REGION Official Notice to Appear in -the Ithaca :Journal no later than April 12, 19699 PLEASE TAKE NOTICE that the Planning Board of the,!Town of Dryden will hold a public hearing, pursuant to Section.276'of` the Town�Law,.;on the application of C. W. Sadd for approval of an extension to the Windy Knoll subdivision located south of Route 13 and west'of the.Yellow Barn Road.' SAID HEARING will be held on the 17th day 0-f.April -1969 at the Town . offices at ,8 p.m., at which time. all interested persons will be given an opportunity to be heard: By order of the Planning Board;,, - Peter A. Curtiss, Chairman',: I,f there are any questions, please,call,me at 275 -5014. Thank you. Please bill to Town Clerk Town of Dryden Dryden, New York cc: G. Lee M. Luss H. Amdur ,.� v 1 ......_ , ._ .�....._...1' L_ ................a•.w.�.._.,._.. .._._.�.. .�_ ....� _ _ ia� �_._::i._e^�'L 5_..._ ._._._i'�..r .:.1.:. .. ,....._.:b::. �.._................._...�._ _ L.i.u.m v�,�u..r -.0 s�.u.. TOWN OF DRYDEN DRYDEN, NEW YORK April 8, 1969 IN THE HEART OF FINGER LAKES REGION Official Notice to Appear in the Ithaca Journal no later than April 12, 19690 PLEASE TAKE NOTICE that the Planning Board of the Town of Dryden will hold a public hearing, pursuant to Section"276 of the Town Law, on the application of C. W. Sadd for approval of an extension to the Windy Knoll subdivision located south of Route 13 and west of the Yellow Barn Road, SAID HEARING will be held on the 17th "day of April' 1969 at the Town offices at 8 p.m., at which time all interested persons will be given an opportunity to be heard. By order of the Planning Board Peter A. Curtiss, Chairman 4P d If there are any questions, please call me at 275 -5014. Thank you. Please bill to: Town Clerk Town of Dryden Dryden, New York cc: G. Lee • M. Luss H. Amdur Id i I 0 1 1 April 8, 1969 IN THE HEART OF FINGER LAKES REGION Official Notice to Appear in the Ithaca Journal no later than April 12, 19690 PLEASE TAKE NOTICE that the Planning Board of the Town of Dryden will hold a public hearing, pursuant to Section"276 of the Town Law, on the application of C. W. Sadd for approval of an extension to the Windy Knoll subdivision located south of Route 13 and west of the Yellow Barn Road, SAID HEARING will be held on the 17th "day of April' 1969 at the Town offices at 8 p.m., at which time all interested persons will be given an opportunity to be heard. By order of the Planning Board Peter A. Curtiss, Chairman 4P d If there are any questions, please call me at 275 -5014. Thank you. Please bill to: Town Clerk Town of Dryden Dryden, New York cc: G. Lee • M. Luss H. Amdur Id i I 0 1 t L.�.....1.uvvl:C•._1:�.. - �L: Sat_ L... .....uGC�...J..vS.�_.uwLt:.... ... .......x.t... .N y— �- �r.:11:�L'�a:.1�L`1 �li.a a... ....r...�__ �4u. r......._.. �i�.. Ll•�v�J^ � TOWN OF DRY ®EN DRY ®EN, NEW YORK IN THE HEART OF FINGER LAKES REGION April 8, 1969 Mr. Duane Hurlbutt P. 0. Box 302 Ithaca, New York 14850 - 17 1 Subject: Planning Board Considerationkof,, Plymouth Village Apartments Dear Duane: The Planning Board looked at your plans for Plymouth Village Apartments on April 3... The plans, sketches, and photographs,you submitted were excellent and provided us with more.than adequate`material,`on which to base our comments. The only question raised in regard to your plans is'a fire escape not being provid- ed in the 3-story apartment. .This;'`.,surprised,us :but,w e know you have checked with Mr. Wells on the multiple housing - requirements and assume that ,.all such require-' I I I ments have been met. While the Planning Board does not ;have the. authority to approve formally a- develop- ment such as yours, since' no subdivision of land will take place.(single ownership), we.appreciate being.fully informed -of such plans: - Your..development, which will of course be fully subject•to,approval „by the” County.Board.of Health, appears to meet the space requirements.of our' .proposed zoning code.. Also, in the interest of aesthetics the Planning Board appreciates the.pains you have taken to preserve as many trees as possible as well as the attractive - surroundings of that area in general. We hope that maintenance ;of•b'oth.buildings and groundswill be provided on a continuing basis to ensure what''appears to us-to be a fine, development. Good luck to'you on this and all future.'developments in the Town.: IIJ IT s Sincerely `;yours- Id IT It R.eter A. Curtiss. ' Chairman PAC:jb Town of `Dryden Planning Board CC: G. A. Lee I IT R. Wells F. Liguori- IT i. _. P.. S. Your plans to increase.thepsiae of the new Fountain Glow- ,apartments I. appeared to offer,,.--no problem;' either,.provided Board of Health approval _' is obtained. „. :? MEMORANDUM T0: G. A. Lee, Supervisor ✓` C. Cotterill L. H. Gridley H. E. Ogden T. Todd FROM: P. A. Curtiss April 8, 1969 It is with regret that I herewith submit my resignation to the Town Board, effective as soon as possible, but in no case later than July 1. My wife and I have bought a home in Ithaca and will be moving there by summer. We have been thinking of such a move for over a year now. There are several reasons for such a decision, probably the major one being the large size of our home and property in Etna requiring a great deal of maintenance and time especially during that time of the year when we would prefer to be at our camp at Tupper Lake. The zoning issue is not a major factor, although I will admit the additional strain and workload has not been especially enjoyable. The Planning Board has worked hard to get zoning as far as it is, and I certainly will not let the ball drop. Zoning must come to Dryden and I hope it will soon. The ordinance we propose is not perfect, but hopefully it is a start in the right direction. I will be glad to work with my successor to the maximum extent possible (and to turn over all records, etc.) in this period of transition, but I encourage you to secure a replacement (and chairman) as soon as possible. I have enjoyed parts of my job,although as chairman the bulk of it has been hard work. On some matters I have not devoted the time that perhaps I should have; there simply has been too much to do, mostly because I have had several other obligations, activities and interests, too. Without question the enjoyable part of the Planning Board has been working with so fine a group of people. Pidge and I consider all of them good friends and expect to maintain that friendship in the future. I hope all of them will continue on the Planning Board. Certainly you have potential there for a better chairman than me. Also, I have sincerely appreciated the support and consideration of the Town Board. Dryden has been fortunate to have such able and conscientious leadership. I know, largely from the Board minutes, the wide range of duties and problems you face. It is no easy job and all of you are to be commended for your patience and plain hard work. You do not live and work in a community 'for ten years and then leave without some feeling; we will especially miss our lovely home on Fall Creek. We will not be far away, however, and will watch with great interest to see how well Dryden grows. The future for Dryden can only be bright, and both Pidge and I wish you well. Peter A. Curtiss 24 Upper Creek Road Etna, New York 13062 CC: Planning Board Sincerely, April 8, 1969 MEMORANDUM T0: Town Board FROM: P. A. Curtiss SUBJECT: Proposed Zoning Ordinance, Delayed Delivery Although we had definitely planned on delivering the zoning ordinance to you at your next meeting on April 16, several people have recommended that we delay it two weeks more in the interest of having the ordinance in the best shape possible. Although we did agree on the final major changes at our last meeting, the incorpora- tion of these into the document is taking more time than planned, and has led to other changes not expected. There are a few other matters (e.g. provision for the Keech- Pichell "dorm" type housing and apartment size in the R -C zone) which should be resolved before you get this. Since we meet the night following your meeting, April 17, (and since only a Happ Sadd subdivision public hearing and perhaps a MNORX subdivision presentation is planned) it means we would resolve these other problems, and also be able to make a decision on the (Main Street) Freeville -Etna request to be rezoned R -B. Part of the ordinance has already been retyped and it will not take long to fix up what few further changes we make. I'll plan on having the ordinance in your hands by April 30, The only problem may be public expectance of the ordinance being turned over to you by that date (re. Journal article by Barb Bell, admittedly from what I told her), but ..... We understand you will be busy enough that night and would not even discuss the ordinance if you did have it, so that may not be a problem. PAC :jb CC: Planning Board • - 0 DRYDEN, NEW YORK i IN THE HEART • OF FINGER LAKES REGION April 9, 1969 Mr. David M. Abbott p. lip Aurora, New York 13026 Subject: Planning Board Review of Proposed Apartment Complex lip p 1p pi, lip Dear Mr. Abbott: The Planning Board reviewed,your plans for an apartment complex in the Lower Creek Road - Hanshaw Road -Route 13 triangle at-our meeting last week. While the Planning Board does not have the authority'to approve,formally a development such as yours, since no subdivision of land will take place (single ownership), we appreciate being fully informed'of such plans. The layout of the 12 buildings (each with 12-apartments) appears to•be excellent, and we are pleased to see a recreation area provided. If the adjacent residents on the Hanshaw Road not Etna - Hanshaw as labelled)' had a chance to be, heard, I would guess they would prefer to see the buildings set back (east) further than they are Perhaps not. I do not know the exact acreage of the tract, but under "the normal restrictions in the proposed R -C zone you probably do not have enough space for 144 units.. Row - ever, with the recent change we made.in'the "proposed zoning ordinance you would have enough land. This new change allows.up to 11 units per 40,000 square feet if public or commercial sewer and water facilities are installed and if written Board of Health approval is obtained. As you know, Board of Health approval is mandatory for any residential construction whether or not zoning is enforced. The other day you had talked about the expectation of water at that site; you did not mention sewage, but I trust you have been working with the Board of Health in this regard. We do not have sketches,of your apartment buildings, or plans of landscaping, or how the recreation area will be provided or maintained (if.at all), but we can assume and hope that you will provide and maintain a first -class type of develop- ment in what should be a prime location. The kind of apartments you briefly described,to me sound like the kind of ° quality development we would like to see in the Town of Dryden. The Planning Board will certainly try to•work with"you and assist you'in any way possible in carrying out these plans. If you'.have further questions other than the matter of Board of Health approval, please feel free to call or write me. CC: G. A. Lee, Supervisor Town Board .,� arming 'Board'. _ S nc rely yours, .Peter A. Curtiss Chairman Town of Dryden Planning Board I' r� j. =� TOWN OF DRiYDEN :DRYDEN, NEW YORK • Mr. Gilman T. Dedrick Kirby Road Freeville, New York Dear Mro Dedrick: .ork IN THE HEART OF FINGER LAKES REGION April 22, 1969 I write to you since it is our understanding that you are the "representative" of the persons who signed the petitions specifically for a conservation zone along Fall Creek, While the Planning Board agrees with nearly every point you make, we have decided that zoning in this kind of situation is simply -not the right way to do the job. We cannot condemn land or allow the owner no real use of it. In- the.R -A zone we had proposed, at least limited uses were allowed. -In the area you refer to, essentially no use would be allowed outside of a • park, and...you are probably right, since no one should really build on a flood plain. The only real solution, and State experts will affirm this, is for the land to be purchased. The problem is who buys. The State? The County? The Town? And the problem here, as always, is money at a time when everyone seems to be suffering from increased taxes. The idea of a park, and possible acquisition by the Town or County, is a possibility, although you know that can bring about other kinds of problems, too, You may want to look into this with Bud Thorpe (Recreation Committee) or the Town Board, - ..Another possibility might even be the purchase of this land (low cost land) by a sizeable group of interested citizens. You might be surprised at the response to such a move, and the additional support you would get if your main proponents were able to show concern and willingness to do more than just sign a petition. These are my personal thoughts, not the Board's, and maybe there are some facets to this problem I do not see or know of, In any case, as an ardent conservationist and member of the Nature Cone servancy I would personally support such an effort, Although unable to act on this petition, the Planning Board would like to point out that the recommended change from RC to RB will offer slightly more protection in the area involved by further limiting the uses that might prove harmful there. I hope that you will convey to the petitioners our sincere interest in this problem, even though zoning is not the manner in which it can be solved. • If you have any further questions or comments, please feel free to call or write me, CC: Town Board Planning Board 24 Upper Creek Rd. Etna, New York 13062 Sincerely yours Peter A. Curtiss, Chairman Planning Board 'rOW N Or DRYDEN DRYDEN, NEW YORK MEMORANDUM TO: FROM SUBJECT: Town Board (G. A. Lee, H. E. C. Cotterill, L. Town At (H. Amdur) Peter A. Curtiss, Chairman Town of Dryden Planning Board IN THE HEART OF FINGER LAKES REGION Ogden, T. Todd, H. Gridley) Transmittal of Proposed Zoning Ordinance April 30, 1969 I am pleased to transmit herewith the revised proposed Zoning Ordinance for the Town of Dryden. As you know, many changes have been made from the original document, in particular, the numerous zone changes, but also many other modifications which we feel will make the Ordinance easier to administer .and enforce and /or generally more comprehens:ive. • There are some points which (largely in the interest of time) were not con- clusively resolved or which need either further analysis (and legal opinion), if not-before adoption, perhaps in the future: 1. Area requirements for dwelling units for more than three.unrelated persons (Section 804.3 and Section 904.3) may need further clarifica- tion, rather than dependence on (arbitrary) judgment of the Planning Board. 2. There may be no proper mechanism for an "exception" as opposed to a major variance. (e.g. for some good reason a person wants to build a garage 10 feet from a lot line rather than the minimum of 15 feet.) I'm not really sure if the Zoning Enforcement Officer (ZEO) and /or the Planning Board can make such a minor modification (without public hearing) before issuing a Building Permit. They should be able to. 3. There may be some point in having the Planning Board review certain uses under even the Allowed Uses. Maybe the informal "notification" mechanism (by the ZEO) of a Building Permit may _do the trick. Indeed, and for the foreseeable future, such an additional workload (whatever its merit) in terms of just discussion time, may not be feasible. 4o We are aware of downstream storm drainage /sewer problems; although we have some tools in the Ordinance to help, these controls may not be enough. The problem is the addition of large parking lot(s) or any ground coverage upstream can put a tremendous drain load (usually during a storm) on down- • stream sewers or areas, causing serious flooding. One need only calculate the runoff for a (not uncommon) 5- acre.blacktopped shopping center parking lotto appreciate the gravity-of this problem. Whose responsibility is the downstream problem? This is a very real problem in an increasing nunber of communities and although perhaps not a pressing problem for us, one we must ultimately face. MEMORANDUJl TO: Town Board Town.Attorney April 30, Page 2 1969 5. Besides other legal considerations. Helen will want to evaluate and /or add to the document, we are concerned about the different public hear - ing procedures for a Permit or an Appeal (see Section 1902). More - detail may be required here. Also on the definitions - - some added or deleted? ( I don't think all are even referenced.) 6. The Signs Section (Article XV) should probably be more refined someday. - 7. The matter of Billboards (see Section 1502.10) has been left solely to the discretion of the Planning Board. Someday more specific guidelines must be set up. NOTE: In response to the Town Board request for action on the request to them made by Mr. O'Connell of Park Displays - - the same request made to us earlier by Mr. Brodhead - - I can only say that I had told Mr. Brodhead some time ago that we simply would not be accepting any further requests for change. We had ruled on no billboards larger than 160 square feet and any decision beyond that would be the Town Board's (and therefore they would have to see you). Although we have all billboards by Permit only, and can control them at Planning Board discretion, the Board decided (not necessarily a unanimous decision) that we did not wart "giant" 300 - square foot billboards. We are sorry that Park Displays (which seems to be a most reputable firm; Mr. Brod- head was most pleasant and helpful) happens. to have largely national advertising and depends for their livelihood ( ?) on it.. ::We,are,,sorry that the national "standard" happens to be 300 square feet. While this standard size may be great for advertising_ along the huge feeders into New York City and other 6 or 8 lane highways, we do not feel that such large signs are in character with our town or are in any way necessary or vital to our populace or local merchants. Therefore, in spite of what may be a hardship to one company, we do not feel we should go along with them solely because there happens to be a "standard" sign size. Already they have rushed to put up new signs; probably more will go up before the Ordinance is adopted. We are sorry about that, too. In submitting this final document to you, the Planning Board reaffirms its belief that zoning is necessary as being, overall, the only effective tool to promote the orderly growth of the town and intelligent use of its resources. We must state again that the Ordinance is not perfect and will need to be revised; however, it is a start that must be made, and in spite of obvious faults, we feel that it-can work if properly administered. We are not unaware of the political considerations most of you face in making what to us is the only de cision. We do feel that a number of people opposed to zoning at the first hearing have changed their minds as a result of the many changes made. More important, perhaps, is the fact that with proper administration the Ordinance should rapidly be accepted; that is, generally people will see the advantages and discover that it is not the end of their. freedoms or our part of the world! MEMORANDUM TO: Town Board Town Attorney April 30, 1969 Page 3 - An important aspect of the-Ordinance will be the administration, not just in terms of the ep rson who will be ZEO `(certainly the most important aspect), but also the adequacy of forms and paper work that could make a significant difference in the system. I don't know what to do about this area, but before we get much further along, adequate forms must be developed; Bob Wells may be invaluable here. We have managed all right without forms for subdivisions, but even there forms could simplify the system and improve our records. The biggest problem of.all could.be the involvement of the Planning Board. As opposed to our preliminary set -up with the Zoning Board of Appeals, the Planning Board will now handle 90% of the Permits and administration of the Ordinance. I am fearful that it will be too large a task, although if we have a first rate ZEO, this may not be true. I simply have not been able to communicate with other similar boards or individuals, to learn of their experience. I don't mean to push the panic button so much as to issue a warning that volunteers alone (even with so vital a matter as zoning) can only do so much. Certainly the zoning'duties will preclude Planning Board involvement in much other long -range planning activity. Perhaps this is a worthwhile trade -off; what could be more important short or long -range for.the betterment of the Town than good zoning? Still, there are other matters that the Planning Board could (and should) be involved in. I do not know the answer. • In probably Carolina Planning any case, here be on 2 -weeks from May 11 to Board will be it is, with our blessings, condolences and of active duty at the Army Research Office, May 24, so may very likely miss your first glad to-help out in any way we can, but it hope. I will Durham, North hearing. The looks like the ball is in your lap for awhile. PAC :jb CC: Planning Board r