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TOWN PLANNING BOARD. TOWN OF DRYDEN* NEW YORK MARCH 16. 1967
The Planning Board for the Town of 'Dryden met March 16, 1967 at
8:15 o'clock, in the Town Hall with members Hardesty, Hanford, Kahrs,
Emmons.Ogden, Chairman Curtiss in attendance. Also present were Art
CZ.a:r4 Duane Hurlbutt, Bob Keech and Rocco Lucente.
Minutes of the previous meeting were approved as distributed.
Duane Hurlbutt and Bob Keech presented a map showing the location
of the 41 acres purchased by them."' This land was surveyed by McDowell
in the ,fall of 1966. When the property was ,first purchased, the Board
of Health had approved a'sewage pond. The irregular shaped ,field is !
accounted for in that they had to get to the 'gravel for proper sewage.
A well has been drilled, producing 25 gal. per minutee
This- project calls for the erection of a town -house apartment
containing six apartments (4 units each). Plans call for a lighted
water .fountain in front of "Fountain Glo Apartments, Inc." with a
042,000 value per apartment. GThey proposed putting a road perpendicu- !
Zar with Pinckney Road -- calling it Sunset West.ivo b�.� have
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been built thus far.�t�
' Included in the plans ^at eleven building lots. Mr. Hurlbutt
plans.to build his home and live within this development. These two -
:. story, three- bedroom homes will vary from $18,000 to $20 000, and will
have either a carport or a garage in the cellar. nc- �a- pa -r-c�1
o f- hs- �rs�; vge ��11- ex._want.s- an- opporun- ity -o ;f bidd_i.r�g_on the-- houseb
CProvision.s will be made for trash cans and parking between buildings.,`
y They will cooperate with Dick Case on the construction of the road.
Existing trees will be preserved where possible on this land. Sewage
,fields have been'appro.ved by the Health Dept. on the entire area for
the six apartments. Percolation tests will be made next week on the
land to be sold as individual lots. Natural gas will.be available.
They' are in hopes to sell lots. in June or July.
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Hurlbutt reported that they plan to erect a new steel building
for Hepp. A building permit has been applied ,for. The location of ;
this building will be on new 366 (old 1$).
'Planning Board members reo.uested that the builders bring in as much
l information on April 20 as possible, together with ,four maps indicating
utility rights of way, contour lines, and health department approval
i listed on the maps or attached* AAo of these maps will be returned to
the bui-lders, one of which wi be filed with the County Clerk. The
road must be approved or.a Performance Bond obtained before ,final plat
is approved. Public Hearing is tentatively scheduled for May. The
Board, agreed that three lots on the main road could be approved as a
'' minor subdivision at the next meeting. i
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Mr. Hurlbutt asked if he could go ahead and build his home. Mrs.
Amdur will be consulted.
Planning Board members complimented Hurlbutt for his ,fine pre-
sentation of the proposed subdivision.
Rocco Lucente showed revised plans for a subdivision calling for
22 one and two- family homes to be built on a new road called Meadow-
lark Lane. This development is known as Sapsucker hoods. The sketch
showed existing road (incomplete). The road was originally started
in 1960 and plans called for apartment buildings in the area. Health
department sepia a disposal regulations ,forced him to abandon the project.
Abutting lyre- -sel,f and Cornell. Lot sizes appear okay due to
sewer regulations.
Luce';nte further stated that:
F #1 (Sewer lines have been laid with taps necessary ,for houses.
7= - -2 ;Water line will be completed within a month. (This area is
rpart of Dryden Mater Dist.. #1 -- Varna.)
33 He plans to build a house- -then will sell house and lot.
#4 Restrictions will be stated on the deeds.
Lucente asked if Public Hearing was necessary on this subdivision
in view o-•f the road having been started previous to subdivision regula-
tions. Chairman Curtiss stated that this will be handled as a regular
subdivision, and Lucente agreed to have plat.made. Lucente agreed to
work with Dick Case on the road and will also put in weepers every 251
to keep road dry. This acts as drainage -- avoids break -up of roads.
i d Lucente stated that, in order to bring low -cost housing to the
1111 average person, it would require smaller lots, planned communities, and
,flexible zoning. Reference is made to National Homes. He explained
how these homes could be delivered by truck, would have a 40' wall,
use 2x4's for the outside wall, 2x2 's ,for the .inside wa11, .would have
panelling on the inside, wall -to -wall carpeting, with the• exterior-being
wood.
Emmons Ogden asked- -How much low- housing do we want?
Ginna Hardesty - -By setting up separate ownership of the land, would
this create a problem as to upkeep etc., as compared to trailers?.
Lucente explained that these homes would be ,financed by National
:+ Homes, with a down payment of 0400 making you a home- owner. These could
be placed on lots 45 x 70, but Lucente felt 60 x 100 should be a minimun
in this area.
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Mr. Hurlbutt asked if he could go ahead and build his home. Mrs.
Amdur will be consulted.
Planning Board members complimented Hurlbutt for his ,fine pre-
sentation of the proposed subdivision.
Rocco Lucente showed revised plans for a subdivision calling for
22 one and two- family homes to be built on a new road called Meadow-
lark Lane. This development is known as Sapsucker hoods. The sketch
showed existing road (incomplete). The road was originally started
in 1960 and plans called for apartment buildings in the area. Health
department sepia a disposal regulations ,forced him to abandon the project.
Abutting lyre- -sel,f and Cornell. Lot sizes appear okay due to
sewer regulations.
Luce';nte further stated that:
F #1 (Sewer lines have been laid with taps necessary ,for houses.
7= - -2 ;Water line will be completed within a month. (This area is
rpart of Dryden Mater Dist.. #1 -- Varna.)
33 He plans to build a house- -then will sell house and lot.
#4 Restrictions will be stated on the deeds.
Lucente asked if Public Hearing was necessary on this subdivision
in view o-•f the road having been started previous to subdivision regula-
tions. Chairman Curtiss stated that this will be handled as a regular
subdivision, and Lucente agreed to have plat.made. Lucente agreed to
work with Dick Case on the road and will also put in weepers every 251
to keep road dry. This acts as drainage -- avoids break -up of roads.
i d Lucente stated that, in order to bring low -cost housing to the
1111 average person, it would require smaller lots, planned communities, and
,flexible zoning. Reference is made to National Homes. He explained
how these homes could be delivered by truck, would have a 40' wall,
use 2x4's for the outside wall, 2x2 's ,for the .inside wa11, .would have
panelling on the inside, wall -to -wall carpeting, with the• exterior-being
wood.
Emmons Ogden asked- -How much low- housing do we want?
Ginna Hardesty - -By setting up separate ownership of the land, would
this create a problem as to upkeep etc., as compared to trailers?.
Lucente explained that these homes would be ,financed by National
:+ Homes, with a down payment of 0400 making you a home- owner. These could
be placed on lots 45 x 70, but Lucente felt 60 x 100 should be a minimun
in this area.
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According to the Ithaca Chamber of Commerce, industry won't come
to Ithaca because of the high cost of living.' Art. Clark stated that
1200 jobs are available in Tompkins County.
Discussion was held on whether or not we ��ant to maintain a
normal community or increase industry. Ginna suggested that Mr. Lucente
present his program to the 701 Board. Members ,felt that school taxes
will increase by lower housing development and that cost of maintenance
is so much less as compared to homes built in the wide open spaces.
Lucente agreed to check subdivision regulations and prepare a revised
map.
Ed Newhart, Chairman of the Republican Committee has been
appointed to .fill the vacancy of Tom Benson, as- Councl:lman r'oZ. Mr.
Newhart is employed by the Ithaca Telephone Co.
The Town of Dryden has accepted the roads for Honey Butter Products
and the dteed has been presented. (Corn Crib Road and Spring Run Road
Emmons Ogden will see Ralph Fuller to ascertain if the Caroline
iTown Board will go along with the name of Ellis Hollow Road to Route 79,
Emmons hats checked with the majority of the people living on this road
{ and they don't mind this name. An answer is expected within ten days.
'S The map that Tom Niederkorn was preparing, which we used as a road
map, was delivered early this week. Chairman Curtiss took one day from
E has duties at Cornell to check this map over and to make corrections.
He feels this map is in excellent shape. Even new subd- ivision.names
and road names were put on that hadn't been mentioned at Planning Board
meetings. Host of the private major roads are Zi'sted. It is ready to
go back to ldiederkorn tomorrow. Ten to twenty large maps will be made
for Emergency Services, Emmons stated that it is necessary for the Town
Board to accept the map before it becomes the Official Town Hap.
y. The names of Ernie Cole and Ken Gardner were suggested as possible
helpers on Zoning in the farm area.
f Curtiss urged every Planning Board member to; be present at the
Information Meeting next Tuesday, March 21, Dryden Central School.
It was reported that a house is being built on Genung Gardens
and the owners would like a number.. REOLYED that it be known as
GENUNG CIRCLE.
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Discussion of the recent unfavorable Ithaca Journal publicity
Dryden received concerning.the 1966 dues to the GIRPB was held. There
was a basic misunderstanding that the divergence of ideas as to what
agreement we had with the GIRPB. The Town Board understood we had a
renewal contract arrangement. The Planning Board understood we joined
this group and would continue until we notify them differently. Ginna
asked if the Town Board had a copy of such an agreement. Frank
thought there was one and promised to mail Ginna a copy. Ginna had
heard nothing ,further. Some of the Town Board members felt it was a
r Gentleman's Agreement. The ,following resolution was passed and
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The Planning Board wishes to express its - embarrassment concerning
the on the part of the Town Board as to whether or not the
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1966 dues to the GIRPB should be paid.
It was the understanding of the Planning Board that membership in
the GIRPB was to continue until terminated. In light of this under-
standing Mrs. Hardesty continued to participate in the activities of
GIRPB throughout 1966 until she was .forced by a direct conflict of
commitments to tender her resignation to 2fr.'Curtiss in September.
Thi issue as to whether or not to pay the 1966 dues came as a_
complete surprise to this Board, particularly in view of the ,fac. that
Possibility- o,f discontinuing GIRPB f*= membership for 1967 was a topic
,for discussion both within the Planning Board and the Town Board.
In view of the above, it is our recommendation that the 1966 dues
be paid.
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;3116167 Peter A. Curtiss, Chairman
Meeting adjourned at 12:05.
Respect.full y submitted,
Marion Steger
PS. The above minutes would normally have been retyped, but time has not allowed
this`to be done.
You will be pleased to know, if you did not already read about it, that both
Caroline and Dryden Town Boards approved the Ellis Hollow Road changes. We have
Emmons Ogden to thank for most of the groundwork on this. We must wait now only
for the map before sending out cards. Niederkorn said this morning the map will
go to Binghamton for reproduction next week and be back the following, so in spite
of our efforts it looks like the first week in May before final notification.
'The 1966 dues payment to GIRPB was defeated by a 3 -2 vote at Tuesday's Town
Board meeting. I'm sorry to see this, but it is apparently a dead issue.
See you Thursday (April 20). Mr. Washburn will be down from Lafayette with an
Ellis Hollow Creek Road subdivision. Probably Hurlbutt /Keech and Lucente will be
there, too. Tom Niederkorn will come at 9:30 to bring us up to date on 701 progress
with zoning - -and he wants our opinion on several points. Needless to say, this is
pretty important and I hope you'll be able to be there.
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3/11/67
MEMO TO: Planning Board Members
FROM: Pete Curtiss
There will be a regular Planning Board meeting Thursday night, March 16.
Several interesting items of business. Duane Hurlbutt and Bob Keech will be there
with rough plans of a proposed major subdivision on the Pixkxay Pinckney Road
involving both houses and apartments. These are the men who have built the
steel buildings in the area (e.g. Cayuga Press). They will have photographs
to better explain their plans and I hope to see the site before Thursday.
Also.,, Rocco Lucente will be there with-his revised plans for the Sapsucker
Woods development.
There will be some discussion and hopefully clarification of the recent
unfavorable Ithaca Journal publicity Dryden received concerning the 1966 dues
payment to the Greater Ithaca Regional Planning Board.
S PE C IAL MTE
A special information meeting of the 701 Project will be held next week
on Tuesday night, March 21, at 8 p.m. in the cafeteria of the new Dryden High
School. This is a most important meeting at which a complete run -down of 701 pro-
gress to date will be made. All members of the town and village Boards and
Planning Boards are being urged to attend, and I hope that our entire Planning
Board will be there. Now that the house renumbering and road renaming project
is essentially done (we're still waiting on Niederkorn for the map), we will
be working closely with 701, especially on zoning. It is imperative that we
all be fully informed on 701 progress and be familiar with the interesting
results that are already appearing. It has been impossible to xRd adequately
disseminate the type of information they are gathering. George Hanford has
done an excellent job of representing our Board; I urge you to back him up and
be at the meeting next Tuesday.
See you Thursday.
cc. Town Board Members
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