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Home My WebLink About1966-04-11o i April 11, 1966 MEMO TO: Planning Boardf 1114111embers Enclosed are the minutes to last month's meeting. Also the press release for the public meeting on the SE road name changes proposed.. Call me immediately if you see any error or addition. See you all on April 21. Fred. Lengemann will have a. report on a meeting he attended. Happ Sadd may be there with his major subdivision, which shouldn't take too long. Then we launch into the great SW section and our real challenge. Please be thinking of that area and recommendations you may have. I don't know if it will be possible to have our final public meeting on that area in one month, but if we can it would be good.. One additional•problem w e have ignored is the names of some of our State roads; that situation, at least, may take one more meeting. We are making ground, however, and hopefully by this summer Mr. Denman will be able to have all the cards together and in early fall we'll have the blitz campaign of informing everyone, getting some signs up ( ? -), and having a new town map produced. I hate to even think of this, but please be thinking of possible replacements for Fred and Ben; they'll be leaving us this summer for at least a full yea.r - =46111 hope no more. Hope you all had a nice Easter. See you next Thursday'. 1. PS. I've asked Mr. Denman to come again next Thursday. a;...,0 .iqk '^';i s • M'v 1 f f TOW( OF DRYDE�! 0RYDENq NEW YORK r—, April 11, 1966 FOR RELEASE AT ANY TIME IN THE HEART OF FINGER LAKES REGION TOWN OF DRYDEN HOLDS THIRD MEETING FOR ROAD NAI1F CHANGES The Town of Dryden Planning Board has called a public meeting for Thursday, April 21, to determine ±XIS public acceptance of proposed road name changes in the southeast section of the town. The meeting is scheduled to take place in the Dryden Town Hall at 8 p.m. The Planning Board has been working for some time on a dual pro- gram of renumbering houses and renaming certain roads where necessary • to clear up vague and often confusing situations existing within the town. A major objective of these efforts has been.to provide a consis- r \g gent town map for the benefit of fire companies and other emergency services. The road name changes or clarifications proposed are within the southeast section of the,town, bounded on the north by Dryden village and on.the west by the Irish Settlement Road. The Lake Road will start at the end of Lake Street in the village of Dryden, run south then east around Dryden Lake to the Cortland county line, superseding that portion of road now known as East Lake Road.; Nest Lake Road. will run from the Lake Road south to Route 38; McClintock Road will start from the end of La.ke.Street'in the village of Dryden and run to the Cortland county line, superseding what is, now called East..Lake Street; Southworth Road will run from the McClintock Road in the village of Dryden south to the Lake `'. Road ; Keith Lane will run from Route 38 to the Lake Road; the Harford :. • Road will continue from the Town of Caroline through to Route 38, super- sexing the Speed Road; Ferguson Roa.d.will run from South Street in the trillla.P e -olf ;Dryd -en to the-Yellow Barn Road, elimina.tina the need for -.. � �,. w+w ..-.�' erwyri`tq- rf-�...�t✓rsn..:. .ti.- .•w.r....�. s..o -.r, _x..fr- r_.:':ri- -as.y. •'a.r,ry -r w�. w. y. :�_ .. -. , �I - 2 *Ferguson tensione erguson Roaa..E Other roads in this section of the town not specifically mentioned here will remain the same. After the public meeting the recommendations of the Planning Board will be presented to the Dryden Town Board for their approval. - END - i to Thank you, If you have any questions, please feel free to call me at either number listed below: Peter A. Curtiss, Chairman Town of Dryden Planning Board 12 Upper Creek Road Etna, New York 347 -4282 or 275-5014 f ^Y.,, ._�....m.- t«;^Fi�•. ... {� r _ _,'1•,' ^Y . � � x. _ . r.. .`..,.. �. yT...... y:s x� .._�3...�,...a..��--- nr �. Ler i j i 4y t TO "nY PL.g11NING BOARD, TOWN OF DRYDEN NETY YORE APRIL 21 -- - - -.� -- 1 or 1966 -i The Planning Board for the Town of Dryden met April 21, 1966 in the Town Hall -at 8:00 with members, Curtiss, Lenpemann, Paterson, Hardesty, Hanford, and Reed in attendance. Afro Denman, Etamons Ogden, Art C1ar1 Lee and Irene Alexander, and James Belasco were also present. The main purpose of tonight's meeting was to determine publ is acceptance of certain proposed road name changes in the southeast section of the town. Chairman Curtiss introduced Lee and Irene Alexander to the group. The Alexanders stated that they had read the news release on road name changes and were surprised to learn that the road they reside on was, and currently is, known as 12"cClintock Road. The road in question runs from the edge of the Village of Dryden out toward Virgil. The Alexanders supposed they lived on Lake Street Extension. They asked: 1 Why McClintock Road was so named. 72 If a road name change is in order, would it be better to select a name that would be recognized or to choose a name other than some family name. 1F'3 P'here did the name of Lake St. Ext. originate. a road name change. s abandoned. Emmons Ogden stated it only required one person to object to an abandonment. Emmons •many Otherwise, Ogden stated the that the name, keep McClintock Road, dated back for years. Chairman TO "nY PL.g11NING BOARD, TOWN OF DRYDEN NETY YORE APRIL 21 -- - - -.� -- 1 or 1966 -i The Planning Board for the Town of Dryden met April 21, 1966 in the Town Hall -at 8:00 with members, Curtiss, Lenpemann, Paterson, Hardesty, Hanford, and Reed in attendance. Afro Denman, Etamons Ogden, Art C1ar1 Lee and Irene Alexander, and James Belasco were also present. The main purpose of tonight's meeting was to determine publ is acceptance of certain proposed road name changes in the southeast section of the town. Chairman Curtiss introduced Lee and Irene Alexander to the group. The Alexanders stated that they had read the news release on road name changes and were surprised to learn that the road they reside on was, and currently is, known as 12"cClintock Road. The road in question runs from the edge of the Village of Dryden out toward Virgil. The Alexanders supposed they lived on Lake Street Extension. They asked: 1 Why McClintock Road was so named. 72 If a road name change is in order, would it be better to select a name that would be recognized or to choose a name other than some family name. 1F'3 P'here did the name of Lake St. Ext. originate. a road name change. abandoned. Emmons Ogden stated it only required one person to object to an abandonment. Emmons •many Otherwise, Ogden stated the that the name, keep McClintock Road, dated back for years. Chairman .Curtiss explained that ersonal names., , for obvious reasons, do present a problem. George Hanford thought Lake St. Ext. was arrived at when Gibby made his survey. There were no other questions or objections to the road A Road, This r Alexan change fter ca should ecommen ders ad do refu rema dati vise 1 del i n th on wi us u i e 1 i beration, the board ,felt that the name, Mc Cl intock same, as recommended by the Planning Board. _ 1 be presented to the iri-34Cto•e B unZes-s-f-F`e- - thin a week or so that they wish to have the name A . The Alexanders advised the Planning Board that there was a great deal of confusion between Lake Street and Lake Road, also of the inade- quacy of the bridge near them. The Planning Board felt this was an immediate concern of the Village rather than the Town and suggested to the Alexanders that they approach the Village and see if they would be willing to put up a road name sign. vme 1002U -- c�d�� - Z✓.l *�/lrY+� It was determined that there is no legal requirement to change deeds whenever there is a road name change. Chairman Curtiss agreed to call Dick Case concerning the Stafford .Road being abandoned. Emmons Ogden stated it only required one person to object to an abandonment. Otherwise, the town has to keep a road open, minimum requirements. There were no other questions or objections to the road name changes as proposed. The Planning Board expressed appreciation to the .Alexanders for attending tonight's meeting. ,y .1 ♦.P'- ?L -• - �):T.' ±4.:.(.jP/'� #r .. .a » a;1 p4gYt�.., r�ti ifA l.yjN lPf�l♦ .v.44b IM(NY"lYt ..•(" 1� �. ;('Tf:4 c� -fin ,1.1 ( ) i' 4 w t Jim Belasco was introduced to the Board acre tract on the top of Snyder Hill. He ha ing and wasn't ,fully aware o.f our Subdivisio so far has been proper and adequate. He now ,formal subdivision procedure to have his tra the original map, showing property owned b Jim s been n Regu wishe ct app y Sid owns about a 32 doing some develop - Zations. Everything s to go through the roved. Jim presented iYarner. He stated: F'1 One house is completed #2 One house is just starting #'3 A 50' road is being built with Dick Case's recommendations; I said road to be deeded to the Town: I 34 Each lot has 1 -314 acres. #5 Health Dept. has given approval on the house now built and a verbal approval on the one now under construction* �6 At least 3 or 4 homes will be completed this summer, of which 'a 2 will be occupied by August 1. W7 He will ,furnish a road name soon. PLEASE NOTE- -Due to the size of the lots, it is not necessary to '.i have the Health Dept. approval on the entire subdivision. The Board felt that Mr. Belasco had complied very well with the Oregulations and that he should be able to come up with a .Final plat together with Health Dept. approval for a public hearing without any difficulty. Jim assured the Board that ,four would be made before the Hay m e e t i n g. c �•j" The .following petition, properly signed, was read by Ginna Hardesty: "To- -The Caroline Town Board: Fe, the undersigned, residents and property owners along that part o.f the road at present named Ringwood Road in the Town of Caroline, between Route 79 (The Slaterville Road ) and the Dryden Town Line, petition the Caroline Town Board to re -name our road Ellis Hollow South .. Road. r i7e respectfully call your attention to the following: #,1 The Town Board o.f Dryden (action taken 815157 ) named that portion o.f the road lying in the Town o,f Dryden the Ellis Hollow South Road. "2 The U. S. post office dept. designates the entire road the Ellis Hollow South Road and requires us to use this mailing address. #3 It doesn't make sense for a road only 2:� miles long, to change-at the town line. W4 There is in the Town o.f Dryden a road which has for over 100 Years been calldd Ringwood Road. The numbering on this road x 1 Y 1 4 Jim Belasco was introduced to the Board acre tract on the top of Snyder Hill. He ha ing and wasn't ,fully aware o.f our Subdivisio so far has been proper and adequate. He now ,formal subdivision procedure to have his tra the original map, showing property owned b Jim s been n Regu wishe ct app y Sid owns about a 32 doing some develop - Zations. Everything s to go through the roved. Jim presented iYarner. He stated: F'1 One house is completed #2 One house is just starting #'3 A 50' road is being built with Dick Case's recommendations; I said road to be deeded to the Town: I 34 Each lot has 1 -314 acres. #5 Health Dept. has given approval on the house now built and a verbal approval on the one now under construction* �6 At least 3 or 4 homes will be completed this summer, of which 'a 2 will be occupied by August 1. W7 He will ,furnish a road name soon. PLEASE NOTE- -Due to the size of the lots, it is not necessary to '.i have the Health Dept. approval on the entire subdivision. The Board felt that Mr. Belasco had complied very well with the Oregulations and that he should be able to come up with a .Final plat together with Health Dept. approval for a public hearing without any difficulty. Jim assured the Board that ,four would be made before the Hay m e e t i n g. c �•j" The .following petition, properly signed, was read by Ginna Hardesty: "To- -The Caroline Town Board: Fe, the undersigned, residents and property owners along that part o.f the road at present named Ringwood Road in the Town of Caroline, between Route 79 (The Slaterville Road ) and the Dryden Town Line, petition the Caroline Town Board to re -name our road Ellis Hollow South .. Road. r i7e respectfully call your attention to the following: #,1 The Town Board o.f Dryden (action taken 815157 ) named that portion o.f the road lying in the Town o,f Dryden the Ellis Hollow South Road. "2 The U. S. post office dept. designates the entire road the Ellis Hollow South Road and requires us to use this mailing address. #3 It doesn't make sense for a road only 2:� miles long, to change-at the town line. W4 There is in the Town o.f Dryden a road which has for over 100 Years been calldd Ringwood Road. The numbering on this road x 7 �'. l.Yan� -.-... ......_.u.__i. -.1. `s.:_:.a:_....�:_.�._.___ `TV L �i..`'� ........ -. ....... -_., -. .._.._ �xili.�u:,. .. 1. t.:.w' . -. »_..._..__......... -._... ... �.. ... . - -. '. .._. ,.y •' 1. 1.(\ 1: • -3- is in the opposite direction from that on our road. It is j extremely confusing to people trying to locate places on Ringwood Road to ,find that there are two within so short a distance of each other. It is also annoying to residents on our road so ,frequently to have to direct people to the other road. 1 i In view of these ,facts, we respectfully petition you to change the name o,f the road now called Ringwood in the Town of Caroline to j_ Ellis Hollow South Road.'' dated- -April 19, 1966 3 1 i• Denman pointed out that Caroline is numbered, and if the road name is changed then the numbers of the homes might also be changed. However, the Planning Board wishes to cooperate. Art Clark stated that the name of the Old Peruville Road is going to be changed. The Town of Groton feels that Route 38 should remain ROUTE 38 instead of Freeville- Groton Road. The Planning Board wishes, as ,far as possible, to cooperate with the Town of Groton but cap see no alternative. The Planning Board requested .Emmons Ogden to inform the Town Board that our original recommendation on the name of Groton' Road for .Route 38, from Freeville to the Peruville Road, be approved as originally recommended.. Alton Reed - reported that Ringwood Road on over the hill has been approved for the Urban Renewal Plan. Discussion was held on road name change on the end of Ift. Pleasant Road and Mineah Road. Alton Reed will contact those residents having equal interest in this specific area. The Planning Board ,felt that 46, 1,ft. Pleasant Road should bear right down to ion arose as to naming private roads on the map. Emmons Ogden is to check with the Town Board. George Hanford had a report compiled by the Tompkins County Re- source Development Committee. The Booklet, Regional Resource Develop- ment, is designed to be used by citizens of Tompkins County individually and /or collectively to examine and hopefully to better understand some o,f the ,factors that spell CHANGE for their community. It is designed and intended to be on1 y a starting .point ,from which additional avenues of study can be explored. The nest meeting of this Committee is scheduled ,for a�ay 2. Fred Lenraemenn has .been requested to attend and report* /44 • e ., n.r. t{ .. 4'i:rt �1.. -.` , l�' a•l.. ,.. ..q •r. 1. t 15irs;a p is .. .1 ' ...i , . 1 we , Alton Reed passed out the booklets on DECISIOATS covering: A Study. For Leaders; The Changing .Environment for Living, Work & Play; Human Resource Development; and Managing Community Growth. P(embers were asked to study these before the next regular meeting. I Chairman Curtiss announced that Alton Reed has been officially appointed our agricultural representative as of April 12, 1966. This I s for a ,five year period. Emmons Ogden stated he had a long talk with Mrs. Fletcher at Tom Todd.'s request. Nothing definite could be arrived .at. He ,further stated that the Town Board is concerned about the by -laws pertaining to appointments o.f planning board members, especially in the event of a member being away for a year. Does this person get re- instated Also, who has charge of a meeting when the chairman is absent: It '':' was determined that no member can be removed from the Planning Board without a public hearing. Further consideration will be given concerning IL a set of by -laws. 4 i 1 1 • S. Reuben Sha p ley submitted a sketch plan for a minor subdivision. A Health Dept. approved is needed. Ginna will return the sketch plan to Mr. Shapley. It is hoped that the road name changes will be completed at the next meeting, May 19, 1966. Ifeeting adjourned at 11:30. Respectfully submitted, Marion Steger, Sec. 1 5 /0C 1 " ( 4 I Alton Reed passed out the booklets on DECISIOATS covering: A Study. For Leaders; The Changing .Environment for Living, Work & Play; Human Resource Development; and Managing Community Growth. P(embers were asked to study these before the next regular meeting. I Chairman Curtiss announced that Alton Reed has been officially appointed our agricultural representative as of April 12, 1966. This I s for a ,five year period. Emmons Ogden stated he had a long talk with Mrs. Fletcher at Tom Todd.'s request. Nothing definite could be arrived .at. He ,further stated that the Town Board is concerned about the by -laws pertaining to appointments o.f planning board members, especially in the event of a member being away for a year. Does this person get re- instated Also, who has charge of a meeting when the chairman is absent: It '':' was determined that no member can be removed from the Planning Board without a public hearing. Further consideration will be given concerning IL a set of by -laws. 4 i 1 1 • S. Reuben Sha p ley submitted a sketch plan for a minor subdivision. A Health Dept. approved is needed. Ginna will return the sketch plan to Mr. Shapley. It is hoped that the road name changes will be completed at the next meeting, May 19, 1966. Ifeeting adjourned at 11:30. Respectfully submitted, Marion Steger, Sec. 1 5 /0C I .a .,.:iSWI �. °.�•, i. I <• �Y. ,� s... •..11 � ';i "- 'i n'.1. r r,, .�,�n -`. .,` }1 1 n!; �1` f JU ot� 3 ; -Le,r Y: <. { -�. 'kl � ,Yy- .} J i Y 1 i 1 1 1 " I .a .,.:iSWI �. °.�•, i. I <• �Y. ,� s... •..11 � ';i "- 'i n'.1. r r,, .�,�n -`. .,` }1 1 n!; �1` f JU ot� 3 ; -Le,r Y: <. { -�. 'kl � ,Yy- .} J i Y 1 i 1 1 r May 9, 1966 Mr. Thomas Todd, Town of Dryden Town Hall Dryden, New York Dear Tom Supervisor At our regular meeting held. April 21, 1966, the Planning Board was able to confirm its earlier recommended. list of road name changes for the southeast section of town. Only two people attended our public meeting, and we were able to expla.ln our thinking to them satisfactorily so that our recommendations as proposed were accep- table. Our recommendations are as follows: The�Lak�e Road will start at the end of Lake Street in the village of Dyyd.en, run south then east around Dryden Lake to the Cortland County line, superseding that portion of road. now known as East Lake Road; West Lake Road will run from the Lake Road south to Route 38; WcClintock Road will start from the end. of Lake Street in the village of Dryden and run to the Virgil Road, superseding what is now called East Lake Street; the Dryden Virgil Road. will be called. just the Virgil Road.; Southworth Road will run from the McClintock Road in the village of Dryden south to the Lake Road; Keith Lane will run from Route 38 to the Lake Road.; the Harford Road will continue from the Town of Caroline through to Route 38, superseding the Speed Road; Ferguson Road will run from South Street in the village of Dryden to the Yellow Barn Road, eliminating; the need. for Ferguson Road Extension, kkxk The above recommendations concerning the village of Dryden have been cleared with them. Please send a copy of this letter with your notice of Town acceptance to village officials so they will know action has been taken. Dick Case recommended. that we eli revised) Catchbasin Road (which we "el Stafford Road, and Fulkerson Road (whi about). These are Town roads but have usually impassable by car, and it seem fact, I would recommend. that the Town of abandoning them - -something which mo which is completely agreeable to Dick minate from t iminated" in ch we didn't not been mai s foolish to look into the s (?) owners Case. he map (when our NE proposal), know what to do ntained, are show them. In legal aspects might like and The hearing for the S74' roads will be May 19. We're actually nearing an end. Call if you have any questions. Sin rely , Peter A. Curtiss, Chairman Town of Dryden. Planning Board.