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AGRICULTURE ADVISORY COMMITTEE
August 09, 2023
In-Person
Approved November 08, 2023
Present: Evan Carpenter (chair), Steve Foote, Kim LaMotte, Brian Magee
Absent: Austin Beck
Liaisons: Jason Leifer (Town Board)
Staff: Loren Sparling (Deputy Town Clerk)
The meeting was called to order at 7.40 p.m.
Review and Approval of Minutes from July 12, 2023
On motion made by Steve Foote, seconded by Brian Magee, the minutes of July 12,
2023 were unanimously approved as written.
Fires at Solar Sites
E Carpenter asked J Leifer if any issues have been brought up to the Town Board
regarding the solar projects that have been put in. J Leifer responded that the Town Board was
notified by email of fires (three over two days) that occurred at the site on Stevenson Rd; Ray
Burger is investigating. E Carpenter surmised that the cause of these fires may be an inverter
box blowing up. J Leifer identified the ultimate cause of these fires as there not being ways for
the fire department to get in, so that’s something that they have got to figure out.
Thus far, this is a one-off, as the County Fire Coordinator has not heard of any other
solar fires that have occurred in Tompkins County. There are also no NYS courses that have
been developed to handle solar farm fires, whereas there are for residential solar fires.
Last year, the Stevenson Rd site was sold to another company (Altus), which purchased
all the solar sites that were operated by True Green . The Committee identified a lack of
communication between these companies and the Town (to update its contacts) as another
issue.
J Leifer mentioned that the Town has had problems with the landscaping of these solar
sites when they were owned by True Green, specifically that the trees that were planted did not
take, as was the case at the Turkey Hill site. He added that the County is looking at its old
dump as another potential solar site, but he doesn’t know at what stage they are at with that.
Of interest to E Carpenter personally is landscaping. He questioned the reasoning
behind putting blue spruce around a cell tower that is 200 ft tall; it will hide the fencing
around the cell tower, but not the cell tower itself. Even so, blue spruce is placed around cell
towers throughout the state.
He related that the fires that he has been involved with have stemmed from issues with
the inverter box. On his George Rd site, he dug out all the vegetation and put down fabric and
wash stone in a 10 ft square beneath the box, so that if a buzzard gets electrocuted and comes
down burning, it is not going to burn the pole up. If the vegetation is maintained (i.e., dry
vegetation is removed), there should not be an issue.
But access in there is another issue altogether. At the cemetery site, there are five
different padlocks on the chain; NYSEG has one, the cell tower company has one, the owner of
the property has one, E Carpenter has one, the solar company has one, and a landscaping
outfit that uses the backside as a dump for its rubble has one. Whoever comes from the fire
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department will also need to have keys or combinations for any locks. E Carpenter noted that
on another of his properties, he maintains two access roads.
Discussion of Permitted Uses
At the last meeting, the Committee discussed how the zoning laws have not been
updated to match State Ag + Markets. This month, we were going to talk about the permitted
uses by zoning district, as written on pages 34 -37 of Dryden’s Agriculture and Farmland
Protection Plan.
Some members were perplexed as to why the consultant responsible for the Plan tied in
automotive junkyards and towing services to ag (these are permitted in Rural Agricultural [RA]
zones with a SUP). Did the consultant think that these were going to be, or had they been an
issue in Dryden?
Car washes are a permitted use in RA zones, but with water being an issue, it does not
make any sense why you would put one in a place that goes off well water.
Contractor yards are permitted in RA zones with a SUP. J Leifer knows that contractor
yards will be discussed, as it is not in the current zoning and there has always been a problem
when people want to bring things to those spots.
Junkyards (permitted in RA zones with a SUP) are also problematic because of possible
contamination through dripping oil. These are supposed to be regulated, but whether they are
or not is another ballgame. It is unknown how many people actually inspect these yards. Page
34 of the Plan states: “These uses are industrial uses with the potential for soil and
groundwater contamination. They can utilize large parcels of land better suited to agriculture.
They should be removed as permitted uses in the RA and CV zoning districts, and limited to
LIO and LIO-A light industrial zoning districts.”
K LaMotte raised the question of whether the Committee wants to approach this
through what to exclude or what could be included . What concerns E Carpenter is that the
reasoning the Plan gives for some activities (e.g., car washes) is that it competes with
agriculture for land use. Yet so does housing, and housing is permitted. Should we be getting
involved in making rules about what we don’t want in the neighborhood or what we do want in
the neighborhood. J Leifer responded that the Committee should state both what they want
and what they don’t want, with accompanying reasons; otherwise, it will be just the Planning
Board that will make all the calls.
K LaMotte emphasized that everything could compete with agricultural land. Horse
boarding is not listed as a permitted use, and obviously that needs to change. Farm market is
not listed as a permitted use, and that needs to change. Another issue with regard to permitted
uses is that there is no provision to allow for agricultural tourism in the Town. Farmworker
housing is also missing.
The Committee then began its review of the permitted land uses from Table 1, page 36,
of the Plan. J Leifer clarified that if the group did not want something in ag, then they should
say so by not permitting it (N). If they did want something or did not care, they should permit it
fully (Y) or permit with a SUP (SUP).
Auto salvage – SUP (unchanged). J Leifer noted that storage of vehicles is a separate
issue. A way to regulate this would be through hours of operation.
Boarding house – SUP (unchanged). A boarding house, according to Dryden zoning law,
is defined as “any dwelling in which more than three persons, either individually or as families,
are housed or lodged for hire with or without meals. A rooming house or a furnished rooming
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house shall be deemed a boarding house.” This is currently special use, as long as we can
differentiate it from “farmworker housing.” Boards might apply “boarding house” to AirBnBs,
but even so, people would have to register them with the Town.
Campground – SUP (unchanged). J Leifer commented that there are state regulations
around this. For example, one needs a permit to have a temporary campground.
Car Wash – Y (unchanged)
Contractor’s Yard – SUP (unchanged)
Day Care Center – SUP (unchanged)
Light Industry – SUP. S Foote offered that there is a lot of ag- or small businesses that
would qualify as light industry, and so the current “N” status should be changed to “SUP.” The
Plan states that “not permitting some form of light manufacturing in the RA zoning district may
preclude small food processing and other types of light manufacturing that can boost farm
viability. This issue could be addressed by adding a new land use category -
Industry/Agriculture, defined in a manner to limit such enterprises in scale and types of
products.” E Carpenter wondered whether Milk and Honey on Johnson Rd is considered light
industry, as they are not processing their own milk, or an ag-related business. What exactly is
the definition of “light industry?”
Inn – SUP (unchanged). What the Town does not have is an agritourism category; once
created, the “inn” would fall under that classification.
Nursery/Greenhouse – Y (unchanged), with site plan approval, as these are considered
to be on-farm buildings.
Restaurant – SUP (unchanged), but this should be placed under Agritourism when that
category is created.
Service business – SUP (unchanged). Would a hairdresser on a side porch be considered
a service business? What about someone doing books for the farm and for the neighbor as
well? J Leifer responded that this requires an SUP because of how many people come in and
out, which usually is not an issue at all. If someone wanted to locate such a business on a road
that dead ends, residents would be most concerned about the volume of traffic that passes by.
Dwelling, Multi -Family – SUP (unchanged). The big developments are going to go where
there is water/sewer. Farmland adjacent to these development sites may be affected.
Everything else is pretty much by special use permit, as it should be, until you look at
anything that might be considered agritourism. The Committee agreed that what they have to
tackle is Industry/Agriculture and Agritourism.
J Leifer reported that the Town Board told the Planning Board to talk about cannabis
because a lot of non-dispensary uses (e.g., processing) fall under ag use. A lot of cannabis is
grown indoors, in “clean houses” that require a lot more lighting than what our zoning allows,
so he would keep that in mind. The Rural Water Association report has also collected well
water data from across the Town, so you know how good the well water is, how much is
available in places, and that should be informative for development and zoning; you can’t do
anything if you don’t have water.
Next month, horse boarding down to farmworker housing will be discussed.
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There being no further business, on motion made by K LaMotte and seconded by B
Magee, the meeting was adjourned at 9.04 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Loren Sparlin g
Deputy Town Clerk