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HomeMy WebLinkAboutZBA 2023-01-03TOWN OF DRYDEN
Zoning Board of Appeals
January 3, 2023
via Hybrid
Approved 4-11-23
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Members Present: Janis Graham (Chair), Henry Slater, Ben Curtis
Absent: 0
Others Present: Ray Burger Director of Planning, Joy Foster (Zoom) Recording Secretary,
Residents: Martin & Nanette Farkas, Amanda Heidel, Connor Landenberger, Mary Guy-Sell,
Diane Gair, Margaret Hamberg, Clark Cgee
Zoom: Susan Sell, Katherine Cgee
Meeting called to order at 6:00 PM
Chair Graham motions to waive the reading of the public notice:
Second: Curtis
All in favor - Yes
NOTICE that the Zoning Board of Appeals of the Town of Dryden will conduct a Public
Hearing to consider the application of Connor Landenberger and Amanda Heidel for an area
variance at 318 Yellow Barn Road, Tax Parcel ID 51.-1-20.13. This parcel is in the Rural
Residential zoning district and the Code of the Town of Dryden requires a 15-foot side yard
setback. Applicant requests 5.5 foot of relief to allow a dwelling to sit 9.5 feet from the side lot
line.
SAID HEARING will be held on Tuesday January 3, 2023 at 6:00 pm at Dryden Town Hall,
93 East Main Street, Dryden, NY 13053 at which time all interested persons will be given an
opportunity to be heard. You can either attend the hearing in person or remotely. To attend
remotely you connect to the hearing via internet or telephone. Details on how to connect will be
posted January 2 to the Town website at: dryden.ny.us You can also submit comments prior to
the meeting or request meeting details by email to: planning@dryden.ny.us
Individuals requiring assistance should contact the Town of Dryden at 607-844-8888 x 216 at
least 48 hours prior to the time of the public hearing.
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Written letters are verbatim, as submitted.
Applicants: Connor Landenberger and Amanda Heidel reads their letter:
We would like to start by thanking the zoning board for taking the time to review our application
and for letting us speak our case.
As of October 28th we are the new owners of 318 Yellow Barn Rd. Through a building permit
application to convert the barn into a single family home, It was brought to our attention that our
barn was built 5.5 feet too close to our neighbors property line. This prompted our request for a
variance to obtain the permit and continue with the renovation. We want tc:i acknowledge that
the building we purchased, unbeknownst to us, is not compliant with the 15 ft side yard set back
required by the town of Dryden.
This is an issue we hope to resolve with the town, and with our neighbors, the Sell's, in a way
that works for all parties involved.
We found 318 Yellow Barn Rd. in July. We spoke with the seller Melissa Guyette weekly
between then and October. At no point in the process of purchasing the property did the seller
disclose to us that the barn was too close to the property line. Also, we had no knowledge of an
additional survey map which showed that the building was too close to the line, something the
seller was surely aware of.
When we called the town and spoke to Dave Sprout, we asked if converting the barn into a house
was a viable option and he said yes. We were not informed of the formal objections raised by the
Sell's or of their concerns voiced to the town in regards to the location of the garage. It was our
understanding that since the barn existed, and has a certificate of occupancy that it was a variable
structure to renovate into a home, which is the only reason we went forward with the purchase.
We understand the Sell's request that we try to build the house elsewhere on the property.
Unfortunately, our budget does not allow for building from the ground up on raw land. The costs
involved with building from the ground up coupled with the in-accessibility of construction loans
made this a non-option for us. The only reason we bought 318 is the garage and our ability to
turn it into a home ourselves. Enough of the work was done on this property and garage that we
just had to make it livable, which we could do with our skills and budget.
We want to work with the Sells to restore the feeling of privacy they value with such solutions as
a foliage buffer. We have reached out multiple times to try to come to some sort of arrangement,
but received no constructive response until first thing this morning. While we fully respect their
objections, If we cannot get the permit, and then the certificate of occupancy, then we cannot
refinance the land and the house as one mortgage and this will leave us in a very problematic
place financially.
We feel for the Sells. It was careless on the part of the last owners when they placed the garage
where they did. Unfortunately, this mistake has already happened, and the permit for the building
was closed. The garage is there and no matter what form it takes, a structure will probably
always be there. It is our hope that the transformation of the barn into a home will inevitably
increase the value of the Sell's property and our property by it becoming a residential home
instead of a commercial landscaping business.
As the project moves forward we are committed to working with our new neighbors to find a
solution that works for all parties. We thank the board for your time and we appreciate the
opportunity to be heard.
Warmly,
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Coner & Amanda
Audience Comments:
Neighbor Diane Gail at 308 Yellow Barn Rd, feels allowing this will affect the sale of her house
and her sister’s house that also is next door. Felt it was built too close from the start but was told
by the Code Officer it was ok. Says its loud and no buffer and she just doesn’t want it there.
Feels will affect the pending sale of her home because new buyers have commented on the
garage and its use. In the past there have been lots of trucks in and out and it was very noisy.
On the phone, Susan Sell, she reads her letter:
My name is Susan Sell (my husband and I live at 334 Yellow Barn Rd). We received a letter
from The Town of Dryden, postmarked Dec 15, letting us know about a request for a variance at
318 Yellow Barn Rd (adjacent to our 334 Yellow Barn property) and the Jan 3 public hearing.
The purpose of our email is to object to the request for the variance.
My husband and I purchased our (new construction) single family residence at 334 Yellow Barn
Road in early 2016; for the past seven years we have enjoyed our rural property and have created
many good memories (with visiting grandchildren, family and friends). We hope to create many
more happy memories in our remaining years.
Our home is very private. Yellow Barn State Forest is directly across the street from our rural
property; the closest homes are each over 500 feet away from our home. In the evening, when
the trees are leafed out, we are greeted by a symphony of fireflies and the night sky.
Our 334 Yellow Barn home is the perfect setting for our golden years. I am retiring this year
(after serving 40+ years as an educator). My husband is already retired. We pay our taxes, and
we buy our supplies in Dryden, shop at the local market, get our gas at the local station, support
the Dryden restaurants, and frequent the Dryden public library. We have family living in the
immediate area. We also live just a few miles from a school friend and her family - someone I
have known for 50+ years (her coworker and the coworker’s large extended family live on
Yellow Barn Rd.)
(Our rural property is also ideal for an adult sister of mine with special needs. My husband and I
have been her caregivers for 20 years.)
In 2018, the undeveloped 10-acre lot adjacent to our property (318 Yellow Barn; Parcel ID 51-1-
20.13) was sold. In 2019, despite our objections, the Town of Dryden allowed the owner to
construct a 12x36 metal garage along the access road (at our property line). (The garage was
used by the owners to store landscaping equipment and the owners lived with their two small
children in an RV, which they parked behind the garage. They had a well installed at the top of
the 10-acre property and pumped the water down the access road to their RV. They did not
install septic.)
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After the stakes for the garage floor were laid and before the garage was built, we visited the
Town of Dryden planning office in person and expressed concern that the future garage would be
too close to our property line (we even paid for a new survey). Unfortunately, we were
unsuccessful in our attempts to prevent the construction of the garage next to our property line.
The 318 Yellow Barn property sold again in 2022 and now we’re being asked to allow a variance
for a garage conversion. We feel strongly that this will reduce the value of our property and will
negatively impact our quality of life.
It’s our understanding that a pre-existing, non-conforming lot variance from an old subdivision
plan back in 1998 would allow a structure, provided there were 15 ft on either side and septic
approval. Hence the request by the new owners for 5.5 foot of relief to allow a dwelling to sit 9.5
feet from our property line.
We have empathy for the new owners, but we don’t feel that we should be placed in this unfair
position. The 318 Yellow Barn parcel has over 10 acres and was part of an old subdivision plan.
The water well was installed at the top of the 10-acre property where there is space to build and
where the structure would remain in compliance with code.
Thank you for letting us voice our concerns.
Regards,
Susan Sell
Susan says homes are centered on their lots and not so close to a property line. Homes are on
average 500’ apart. She has archived other variances from the Town of Dryden, and they all refer
to placement, shielding by trees, visual impact.
Margaret Hamberg at 300 Yellow Barn Rd. has spent a lot of time and money developing the
property and loves the rustic feel of the area. She is selling her home as well and feels will
devalue the sale of her home. Sorry they didn’t do research when purchasing but feels she
shouldn’t have to suffer by this error.
Clark Cgee at 360 Yellow Barn Rd, he disagrees with what these neighbors have said about
decreasing property values, another nice home will increase values. This building is there and
will stay there, it is what it is. He has lived there over 23 years and never had any issues. Let
them build a nice home. Property values have increased a lot.
Katherine Cgee on Zoom, lives at 360 Yellow Barn Rd, and agrees that what’s done is done,
building has been there. She believes what new owners plan to do will enhance the property
value. She understands what Susan said, it’s a nice area and they all love to come home after a
busy day and chill. Making this garage a home would be much better than a busy garage. Looks
like they plan to make it a nice home and wish them well.
Board to the R. Burger, how did this building get placed where it is being too close to the
property line.
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R. Burger, application was made in 2019 for a pole barn and it did receive inspections for the
foundation and the completed structure. When the Code inspected the foundation, it appeared to
be 15’ from the line, we don’t have survey equipment. So, it was not until this, as-built survey in
2022 that it was discovered that it was only 9.5’ from the line.
Susan Sell states that she paid for a survey in 2019 and before garage was built when the
foundation was there went over and talked to owner and told them it was too close. I was told by
Code Officer that placement was ok.
R. Burger said he requested this survey but was never given this survey and believes what Susan
paid for was a marking of the line.
She never brought in a survey. Being that the structure was 200’ from the nearest survey
monument it appeared to the CEO to be 15’ from the sideline.
Graham motions to close the public part of the meeting 6:32 PM. The Board will answer the 5
questions.
Second: Curtis
All in favor - yes
Board discussion
• The board is reluctant to grant a variance to remedy something that clearly should not
have been allowed in the first place. Applicants should have been made aware of this.
Doesn’t feel the function of the Zoning Board is to go back and fix this.
• The applicants should go back to attorneys and ask them to resolve the matter.
• If the Board makes a ruling to deny, then the applicants must meet a very high threshold
in order to have this reheard.
• Suggests that applicants withdraw their application and try to come up with another
remedy.
• If applicants can create a situation where a variance is not needed, then they are good to
go. They mentioned cutting 4.5 feet off building or moving building or buying 5 feet from
neighbor, which could make their building compliant.
Applicants have decided to withdraw their application.
Open next hearing 6:45 PM
Chair Graham after confirming that those in attendance had received the legal notice,
motions to waive the reading of the public notice:
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Second: Curtis
All in favor – Yes
NOTICE that the Zoning Board of Appeals of the Town of Dryden will conduct a Public
Hearing to consider the application of Martin Farkas for an area variance at 183 Sheldon
Road, Tax Parcel 40.-1-1.23. This parcel is in the Rural Residential zoning district and the Code
of the Town of Dryden prohibits placement of accessory structures in the front yard. Applicant
requests a variance to place a 1400 sq ft garage in the front yard.
SAID HEARING will be held on Tuesday January 3, 2023 at 6:15 pm at Dryden Town Hall,
93 East Main Street, Dryden, NY 13053 at which time all interested persons will be given an
opportunity to be heard. You can either attend the hearing in person or remotely. To attend
remotely you connect to the hearing via internet or telephone. Details on how to connect will be
posted January 2 to the Town website at: dryden.ny.us You can also submit comments prior to
the meeting or request meeting details by email to: planning@dryden.ny.us
Individuals requiring assistance should contact the Town of Dryden at 607-844-8888 x 216 at
least 48 hours prior to the time of the public hearing.
Applicant is present and has no additional comments.
With no additional comments, letters or concerns, the Board will move forward.
6:47 PM Graham moves to close the public part of the hearing, and the Board will now answer
the 5 questions.
Second: Curtis
All in favor – yes
A. IN CONSIDERING WHETHER AN UNDESIRABLE CHANGE WOULD BE
PRODUCED IN THE CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD OR
DETRIMENT TO NEARBY PROPERTIES WILL BE CREATED BY GRANTING
OF THE AREA VARIANCE THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS FINDS AS
FOLLOWS:
The ZBA finds that the proposed structure is in keeping with the character of the
neighborhood. Its design and placement are consistent with other homes and accessory
buildings in the immediate vicinity.
Motion made by: Graham - Yes
Second: Curtis- Yes
All in favor – Yes
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B. IN CONSIDERING WHETHER THE BENEFITS SOUGHT BY THE APPLICANT
CAN BE ACHIEVED BY SOME OTHER METHOD, FEASIBLE FOR THE
APPLICANT TO PURSUE, OTHER THAN AN AREA VARIANCE, THE ZONING
BOARD OF APPEALS FINDS AS FOLLOWS:
The structure, which the applicant describes as a pole barn, could be placed elsewhere, but
its proposed location is optimal given its function as storage and its accessibility to the
existing driveway. There would be no apparent benefit to the community from placing it
on another site; requiring it to be placed elsewhere would put an undue burden on the
applicant.
Motion made by: Curtis- Yes
Second: Graham- Yes
All in favor – Yes
C. IN CONSIDERING WHETHER THE REQUESTED AREA VARIANCE IS
SUBSTANTIAL. THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS FINDS AS FOLLOWS:
The pole barn will not be placed in the required front yard and is a considerable distance from
the ROW and adjacent neighbor’s homes. Thus, the ZBA does not find the variance requested
to be substantial.
Motion made by: Curtis - Yes
Second: - Slater - Yes
All in favor – Yes
D. IN CONSIDERING WHETHER THE PROPOSED VARIANCE WILL HAVE AN
ADVERSE EFFECT OR IMPACT ON THE PHYSICAL OR ENVIRONMENTAL
CONDITIONS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OR DISTRICT. THE ZONING
BOARD OF APPEALS FINDS AS FOLLOWS:
It’s a small accessory building and its construction will not adversely impact the environment.
Motion made by: Curtis - Yes
Second: Graham- Yes
All in favor – Yes
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E. IN CONSIDERING WHETHER THE ALLEGED DIFFICULTY WAS SELF-
CREATED. THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS FINDS AS FOLLOWS:
The difficulty is self-created, but the proposed location of the structure is logical,
thoughtful, takes advantage of existing driveway and requires little or no removal of
trees.
Motion made by: Graham- Yes
Second: Curtis - Yes
All in favor - Yes
Motion made by: Curtis to classify this SEQR Type II per 617.5c12
Second: Slater - Yes
All in favor - Yes
Decision to Grant variance:
Ben moves to approve variance.
Second: Graham
All in favor - yes
Congratulations variance granted.
Graham Motion to adjourn 7:05 PM
Second: Slater – Yes
All in favor – Yes
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