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TOWN OF DRYDEN
PLANNING BOARD MEETING
February 25, 2021
Via Zoom
Present: John Kiefer, Chair, Tom Hatfield, Craig Anderson, Tony Salerno, Daniel Bussmann,
Joe Wilson, Alice Green (alternate), Simon St Laurent (alternate)
Absent:
Staff: Ray Burger, Planning Director
Liaisons: Dan Lamb & Loren Sparling (Town Board), Craig Schutt (Conservation Board)
Chair John Kiefer opened the meeting at 6:00 p.m.
Public Comment Period
No comments
Approval of Minutes
Approval of the minutes of January 28, 2021 was moved by A Green, seconded by J Wilson – all
in favor.
97 Southworth Road
Site Plan Review
J Kiefer asked if there were any neighbors that wanted to address the board and there were not.
R Burger reported he talked with Ryan Sherman of Jerry Dell Farm who was dismayed that he would lose
a potential acre of hay because he leases the property. He had no further concerns.
The site plan as amended was displayed and explained by applicant Hans Haas. A second line of
trees was added on the east side facing the closest house on the adjacent parcel. Their view shed is
opposite of that. They added a walkway from the employee parking area to the offices and the
handicapped space is identified. The grass area in front of the building will be paved (Note 11). A
drawing of the sign was presented. It will be the maximum allowable size, 4’ x 10’. They will use
motion sensors after 4:00 p.m. for lighting, downward facing, dark sky compliant (Note 6). The scrap
dumpster was relocated (Note 7). R Burger said the ground disturbance worksheet totaled about an
acre, but the impervious surface was more than half an acre and that invokes the requirement for a
SWPPP. This SWPPP would be reviewed by the town, not the DEC.
Applicant said he just found out about the SWPPP requirement last week. They got a quote for
over $7,000 from an engineering firm, then they would have to pay the town’s engineering firm to
review it. He asked if that could be a condition of approval. That would be covered under the town’s
Standard Conditions of Approval.
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Because they are building on a plateau on a hill, less than half an acre, applicant asked the board
to consider a permaculture option. It is basically land management by shaping the land and using land
with strategic plantings to build the overall health and sustainability of the soil and land. A large part of
it is water retention, preventing erosion and trying to keep rain that falls on the land in place. It can be
done with excavation and plantings, ponds, swales, small berms, and such. Eventually he would like to
plan an orchard on the adjacent land and blight resistant chestnut trees. He would like to come up with
a permaculture proposal that would go well beyond what an engineering firm would tell us to do. If the
board would consider that, he could present a rough proposal next month. He understands the
intention of the law is to prevent the cumulative effect of a lot of development and water and erosion
problems in the town. What he will do whether he must do the SWPPP or not, will go above and
beyond that.
J Kiefer said while that sounds better than spending thousands of dollars on a SWPPP, the
Planning Board doesn’t have jurisdiction over this. It may be the code enforcement officer. The board
may be able to say we recommend consideration of the applicant’s request, but he doesn’t think the
Planning Board can waive requirements in Town Law.
R Burger said the town will eventually have to check the box on the stormwater law. With the
sentiment of seeing what alternatives like permaculture can be explored, we can see how far we can go
to still be compliant with Local Law #4 of 2007. The stormwater officer can consult with the town
engineers, the Soil & Water Conservation District and NYS DEC in considering this request. Applicant can
provide a rough plan at the next meeting. A Green suggested that permaculture specialists of Cornell
Cooperative Extension can be helpful.
T Salerno said he likes the changes in the plan and is in favor of exploring the permaculture
option. It would be nice if the stormwater law would allow that.
D Bussmann said the town needs to comply with what the state requires and can make a more
stringent requirement if they choose to. The Stormwater officer would interpret that, but his hands
might be tied regarding state requirements.
A mockup of the sign was shown.
C Anderson noted there is no size for the trees on the plan; they should be 6’ tall. The sign
seems large for the neighborhood and street it is on, though 4’ by 10’ is permitted. Design guidelines
call for a low monument style sign with plantings around it and applicant was referred to those.
The board reviewed the Part 2 of the short environmental form the project and responded as
follows:
1. No
2. No or small
3. No or small
4. No
5. No
6. No or small
7. No
8. No
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9. No
10. No
11. No
RESOLUTION #6 (2021) - NEG SEQR DEC AND SITE PLAN APPROVAL – 97 SOUTHWORTH ROAD
J Kiefer D Weinstein offered the following resolution and asked for its adoption:
A. The proposed action involves site plan review for construction of a new 100’ x 60’ pole barn and
adaptation of existing buildings at 97 Southworth Road (Tax Parcel #48.-1-61.62) for production
and sale of metal roofing and siding.
B. The proposed action is an Unlisted Action for which the Planning Board of the Town of Dryden is
the lead agency for the purpose of uncoordinated environmental review.
C. The Planning Board of the Town of Dryden, in performing the lead agency function for its
independent and uncoordinated environmental review in accordance with Article 8 of the New
York State Environmental Conservation Law – the State Environmental Quality Review Act
“(SEQR)”, (i) thoroughly reviewed the short Environmental Assessment Form, Part 1, and any
and all other documents prepared and submitted with respect to this proposed action and its
environmental review,(ii) thoroughly analyzed the potential relevant areas of environmental
concern to determine if the proposed action may have a significant adverse impact on the
environment;
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED AS FOLLOWS:
1) The Planning Board of the Town of Dryden, based upon its thorough review of the short EAF,
Part 1, and its thorough review of the potential relevant areas of environmental concern has
determined that the proposed action will have no significant adverse impact on the
environment in accordance with SEQR, and
2) John Kiefer is hereby authorized and directed to complete and sign as required the
determination of significance, confirming the foregoing Negative Declaration.
BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that site plan approval is hereby granted for construction of a new 100’ x 60’
pole barn and adaptation of existing buildings at 97 Southworth Road (Tax Parcel #48.-1-61.62) for
production and sale of metal roofing and siding, subject to the following:
1) Consideration by the town’s stormwater officer of the permaculture concept proposed by the
applicant;
2) Delivery trucks not travel through the Village of Dryden;
3) The applicant will provide an annual statement showing that half of the product sales are to the
farming community;
4) Standard Conditions of Approval (8-14-2008);
5) Tree plantings will a minimum of 6’ in height;
6) The height of the sign will not exceed 7’.
2nd C Anderson – all in favor
C Anderson said for the past five years the board has assumed that when the soil disturbance
form showed that was one or more acres was disturbed then a SWPPP would need to be filed with DEC.
Now it appears it is a half-acre. R Burger said for DEC purposes it is one acre. The town’s stormwater
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law (LL#4 of 2007) was meant to be more stringent than state law and says if it is more than half an acre
of connected impervious, we require a full local stormwater plan. It is not a full SWPPPSWPPP filed with
DEC and will not go to DEC for review. This is explicit withparticular to our town law and has may have
been unevenly applied over the years. The town’s stormwater law was meant to address our MS-4
status.
C Anderson asked if R Burger knew how many applications with more than a half acre of
connected impervious had been approved without the condition of a stormwater plan. R Burger said he
would have to go back and audit to see which were under an acre but more than a half-acre connected
impervious that may have had this apply. He isn’t sure what triggered it in this instance.
Town Board Update
Dan Lamb reported the Town Board appointed Leonardo Vargas-Mendez to fill the vacancy
resulting from the resignation of Kathy Servoss. Mr Vargas-Mendez was head of the Cornell Public
Service Center for 25 years and very connected to the community and greater Ithaca/Tompkins County
area. He is the founder and President of the Latino Civic Association. D Lamb said he is a good man,
very smart, thoughtful and will be a good addition to the board. He lives on Snyder Hill Road.
D Lamb worked with Tony Salerno and Ray Burger and came up with some guidelines for
running zoom meetings. The Supervisor will be sending those out to all advisory board chairs.
Planning Board Vacancy – D Lamb said they have found a nominee to fill David Weinstein’s
vacancy. The position was left open for a while to look for a woman who brings some diversity to the
board. He reached out to Linda Wagenet who has agreed to accept the appointment. She worked at
Cornell as a senior research associate; her expertise is in water. She currently is a member of the Water
Resources Council and volunteers with other organizations. D Lamb introduced Linda Wagenet to the
board and said she will be a productive board member.
C Anderson asked who was in charge of the comp plan process and asked why the time for
comments was extended without asking the Planning Board. D Lamb said the Town Board had passed a
resolution putting the Planning Board in charge. The comment period was extended in response to
requests to slow down. The Planning Board would not be meeting before the comment period deadline
and D Lamb said he didn’t think anyone would be against extending it. Both John Kiefer and Loren
Sparling added that they shared that opinion. The Town Board must vote to accept the comp plan
though the process is collaborative.
Zoning Law
J Kiefer has been compiling a list of possible changes to make to the zoning law. He asked that
members of any town boards as well as code enforcement officers and staff send him items of concern.
He displayed Janis Graham’s document and suggested it would be a good way to structure items of
concern. J Wilson has submitted memos in the past and those will be included in the list.
Janis Graham asked what the process to make changes would be and R Burger explained that
zoning law amendments require a public hearing and adoption by the Town Board. The problems list
will not drive the comp plan draft. It was suggested that some items might be fixed while the comp plan
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process continues because it could be several years before resulting zoning comes from the new comp
plan.
Dryden Lake Dam
The Town Board asked the Conservation Board to issue an opinion on the dam at Dryden Lake.
The Conservation Board passed a resolution (attached) and shared it with the Planning Board. J Kiefer
shared some photos of the current dam, which the DEC has said will need some work. He displayed
what he believed the effect on the lake might be if the dam were removed. S St Laurent said the lake
has been in place since 1801 and it works well for the community and the creatures that inhabit the
area. The DEC is not actively seeking comment on the matter; this is somewhat preemptive.
RESOLUTION #7 (2021) – ENDORSE CONSERVATION BOARD RESOLUTION
REGARDING DRYDEN LAKE
T Salerno offered the following resolution and asked for its adoption:
RESOLVED that the Town of Dryden Planning Board hereby endorses the Conservation Board
resolution adopted December 29, 2021 recommending preservation of a dam at Dryden Lake.
2nd C Anderson – all in favor
Comp Plan Update
J Kiefer reported the consultants will gather all input from the public outreach, summarize those
and summarize the goals and strategies. They will then prepare what is a chapter of the update. He
expects that will happen late next month and the steering committee will meet the second Wednesday
in April to begin processing that.
J Wilson said the Climate Smart Community Task Force had discussed having the community
greenhouse gas emissions report include information that used a methodology consistent with the
county. J Kiefer said he contacted the consultant about that and hasn’t heard back yet.
T Salerno asked if there was any feedback the from the efforts to get as much of the disrupted
meeting record up for public view as we could. R Burger said he went up through minute 49 when the
profanity started. The offensive comments were removed from the chat up to minute 10670 when it
was shut down. The chat file from January 26 was not captured, however one of the consultants was
taking points from the chat and verbally bringing up to the moderator. Some of those were translated
to sticky note format.
After EDR completes their preliminary summary of all the public outreach at some point this
spring there will be another public workshop to present that document. It will be posted to the
Dryden2045 website and put out to the public again.
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In response to a question about timing for this update, J Kiefer noted it was longer than what
was recommended in the previous comp plan. T Salerno said the work on the update began in
November of 2019, well before the pandemic.
NY Stretch Energy Code
J Kiefer presented a resolution from adopted by the Climate Smart Communities Task Force
(attached) and reviewed it with the Planning Board. A Green moved that the Planning Board endorse
the resolution, seconded by J Wilson.
Comments during discussion:
• What would be the affect on affordable housing in Dryden?
• All the things in the Stretch Code will be in the standard code in 2023.
• Tompkins County is considered a climate zone 6; surrounding counties are a 5 and build to a lesser
energy code than Tompkins County.
• People are choosing to build in Cortland County.
• Tompkins County may have petitioned for a higher zone.
• A cost analysis particular to Dryden should be done.
• There’s no increase in the amount of insulation required for residential buildings.
• Does increasing the cost of the building mean it costs more to live in?
• There’s a lot more we can do.
• You can adopt one code or the other, and then you can amend.
• The cost analysis provided in the chat goes by climate zones and concludes that the costs over the
long term with one exception, all classes of buildings analyzed show a cost savings.
• There are health and safety benefits of using a minimum of fossil fuels.
• We have goals of better living conditions for residents and more efficient housing and using less
energy to save people on their utility bills.
• The cost of building in the Town and City of Ithaca is higher now than it is in Dryden. When they
finish their energy code, it will be more expensive. We have an advantage now and it will get
greater.
• An 11% savings in energy consumption from new buildings is a low bar, but is something the Town
can do to reduce energy consumption.
• The code enforcement officer has said this is a reasonable thing to enforce.
• Some builders have said all the materials to meet this code exist and we can save energy for our
town.
• New York State has set some ambitious targets for reducing fossil fuel use to combat effects of
climate change and is incentivizing municipalities to accept the stretch code now. The incentives are
to municipalities willing to take leadership both in dollar grants and there will be points toward
larger dollar grants if we choose to adopt the stretch code. (Dryden may be able to recover some of
the expense of converting its streetlights to LEDs)
• This is timely and is a conservative change.
• The additional cost and payback time should be explored specific to Dryden.
• The current code we are building under is extremely stringent as it is; there was a change in April of
this year.
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• There is a very long payback on this; the cost analysis used weren’t specific to an area, but used
national numbers, so it is skewed.
• Every house is different and meeting the code will vary quite widely.
• Does the ResCheck program support this?
• A person may spend up to $5,000 to comply with this.
• Dryden’s tax burden is high and adding this will drive more people out of Dryden and Tompkins
County.
• This will not address the affordability problem.
• Don’t put Dryden at a competitive disadvantage.
• The longest payback on a chart displayed was 6 years in this zone.
• The expense for the work necessary may not be accurate.
• What is the source of the data?
• What are the energy savings under this code on an annual basis?
• The energy recovery systems will have minimal savings because it requires electricity to operate.
• One section or other (residential or commercial) can be adopted independently.
• We can reach out to other communities that have adopted this to see whether it has negatively or
positively impacted development or increased property prices.
The resolution was tabled to gather information including the impact in municipalities where it
has been adopted and talking with a contractor in those municipalities who has installed according to
the stretch code in residential and/or commercial properties. Lou Vogel and Terry Carroll could be
asked to come back for questions. A comparison for a build under current code compared to a build
under the stretch code would be helpful.
J Wilson cautioned the board should not lose sight of the benefits of complying with the code by
focusing solely on what it costs to build. He understands there are multiple paths of complying with the
code. It’s possible that some contractors want to do things a particular way, that some are more
onerous and less flexible.
T Salerno said if the stretch code requires certain features at certain levels, what is the industry
standard for those. If manufacturers are already ahead of it, then there is no cost increase.
The Town Board will ultimately make the decision on this and it would require a public hearing.
No other municipality in Tompkins County has adopted this yet, but some are considering it. The City
and Town of Ithaca have their own code and will not likely adopt this.
Information gathered will be shared at the next meeting and there will likely be a vote on the
matter.
Planning Department Update
TC3 trail to Village of Dryden – This has been considered over the years to provide relief to the
Lee Road residents who have student traffic up and down the road. TC3 is considering a proposal to the
south that could come down through some private lands and town hall lands. He expects an application
from TC3 in the next few months. There are some major wetland issues by Neptune Fire Department,
but it could be a very elegant solution to the Lee Road problem.
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The 1622 Dryden Road contractor yard application has been withdrawn. The Town Board did
permit the First Light project there, a 50’ by 50’ compound with some equipment sheds. That will
connect some of the fiber coming through town. Bellisario is in the process of taking the temporary
construction fence down. Boom trucks will be moved to Oak Brook Drive.
R Burger reminded the board that there is a standing invite to propose sites for community
solar. Sites should be a minimum of ten acres, someone else will analyze whether it is appropriate for
connection to the grid and such.
Pre-sketch plan conference – This is something Planning Department staff do with applicants
and try to anticipate what should be presented. It seems to fall short and R Burger asked if any Planning
Board members were willing to sit in on those conferences. This could potentially improve the
application. C Anderson and T Salerno both indicated they would like to do that if they were available.
There being no further business, on motion made, seconded, and unanimously carried, the
meeting was adjourned at 8:20 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Bambi L. Avery
Final
12/29/2020
Dryden Conservation Board Resolution
Recommending Preservation of Dryden Lake Dam
Whereas there has been a dam at Dryden Lake Dryden, NY since circa
1801; and
Whereas the body of water known as Dryden Lake, created by the
building of the dam, has provided numerous benefits to the citizens of
the Town of Dryden and surrounding areas for over two hundred years,
with its benefits changing and expanding over two plus centuries; and
Whereas the lake originally provided power for a sawmill and ice
harvesting, it created additional waterfowl and wildlife habitat that has
made the lake today a birding “hot spot” with 228 species observed,
providing migratory bird rest areas and nesting and foraging habitat
(Canada geese, ducks, loons, herons, Bald Eagles) as well as habitat for
numerous mammals, amphibians, turtles, etc; and
Whereas Dryden Lake and its surrounding areas provides many forms
of year round recreation for town and surrounding area residents, such
as fishing, ice fishing, hiking, jogging, dog walking, biking, cross country
skiing, snow shoeing (on the Jim Schug trail), kayaking, canoeing, ice
skating, hunting, trapping, bird watching, picnicking, etc; and
Whereas Dryden Lake and its surrounding natural areas are an
important educational resource, being used both for formal classes in
ecology and natural resources (Cornell University) and informal
education of everyone from young children to lifelong education
participants; and
Whereas the Town of Dryden currently provides a community park at
the Lake under an agreement with the New York State Department of
Environmental Conservation; and
Whereas the Dryden Lake park is a popular location for many
community events with the lake being the center piece for those
events; and
Whereas the lake has a rich historical and cultural value to the citizens
of the town; and
Whereas the NYS DEC is considering the removal of the dam and the
elimination of Dryden Lake in the form it has existed for over two
hundred years; and
Whereas the Dryden Town Board has requested a recommendation
from the Conservation Board on the future of the Dryden Lake dam and
ultimately Dryden Lake itself.
Therefore, let it be resolved that the Town of Dryden Conservation
Advisory Board recommends to the Dryden Town Board that the latter
take all necessary action to ensure the preservation of a dam and the
body of water known as Dryden Lake, maintaining its current
contribution to the recreational and ecological benefits provided to the
Dryden community.
Resolution by the Climate Smart Communities Task Force (Task Force) Recommending
the Town Adopt the 2020 New York Stretch Energy Code
Adopted February 9, 2021
WHEREAS, NYSERDA developed the 2020 NY Stretch Energy Code (the Stretch Code) as a
statewide model code for New York jurisdictions to use to meet their energy and climate goals
by accelerating the energy savings obtained through their local building energy codes, and
WHEREAS, the contents of the Stretch Code are intended to be incorporated into the New York
State Energy Conservation Construction Code (NYS Energy Code) at the next update cycle in
2023, and
WHEREAS, the Task Force attended a presentation by Terry Carroll (NYSERDA Clean Energy
Community Coordinator) and Lou Vogel (Taitem Engineering) on the Stretch Code. The
presentation and subsequent discussion included the following:
The materials required to meet the code for are readily available from large, well
established manufactures.
The construction methods required to meet the code are readily achievable by designers,
contractors and tradespeople familiar with building to meet the existing requirements of
the NYS Energy Code.
A popular energy modeling application used by designers and builders to demonstrate
code compliance (REScheck, COMcheck) supports the Stretch Code.
Per a conversation with Dave Sprout, while the Dryden Code Enforcement Officers have
not received training on the Code and will need to do so in the event it becomes Dryden
law, Dave believes enforcement of the Stretch Code will not be significantly different
than what is required for the existing NYS Energy Code.
The cost to build Stretch Code compliant buildings is expected to be recovered over time
through reduced energy costs for building owners and tenants, and
WHEREAS, one concern the Task Force has with the adoption of the Code is that the first cost
of implementation will exacerbate Dryden’s existing problem with affordable housing cost,
especially when compared with housing cost outside of Tompkins County, and the resulting
incentive for people to live far away from and commute to work, shopping and other
destinations, often through Dryden.
THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED that the Task Force recommends that the Town Board adopt
the Stretch Code into Town law.
Planning Board
February 25, 2021
Zoom Chat
00:23:05 Simon St.Laurent: I would happily support permaculture approaches to this - I'm
not sure it's supported explicitly by our stormwater laws, but it should be!
00:24:53 Alice Green: As a Master Gardener, I have studied Permaculture a bit. I agree with
Simon. We should be encouraging this!
01:20:07 James: Can the Steering Committee give any explanation why or how portions of the
public record on 1/26 and 1/27 have been lost or omitted from public review?
01:23:16 James: Is ALL the Chat portion of all 4 Workshops now available to the public online?
01:28:02 RYE: Why was 16 years considered the best interval for the Comp Plan review during
a pandemic, before census results and before a local election? t
01:30:36 RYE: I could not find the 5 to 10 year recommendation.
01:31:31 Joe Wilson: Most NYS literature on Comp Plan seems to recommend 5 year
revisions
01:31:51 RYE: t
01:32:07 RYE: Thank you
01:36:49 James: Since there is an Affordable Housing issue already prevalent in Dryden and
Tompkins County, why exacerbate that problem in these ways??
01:38:03 Joe Wilson: There are studies that detail the costs and benefits. I can supply what I
have found.
01:38:27 James: Why not wait until 2023?
01:39:23 Joe Wilson: I looked up today and found that Dryden is 5A.
01:55:10 Joe Wilson: Here is a cost analysis: Energy Savings and
Cost-Effectiveness Analysis
of the 2020 NYStretch Energy Code Residential Provisions
Final Report | Report Number 19-37 | July 2019
01:56:12 Joe Wilson: The cost analysis above is specific by NYS Climate Zone. These "national
numbers."
01:57:49 Joe Wilson: Payback for single family houses is 5.9 years per NYSERDA.
02:18:12 Simon St.Laurent: COMcheck desktop 4.1.5 includes the NY STRETCH code. I don't
see it in REScheck.
02:26:37 James: If several other municipalities are studying STRETCH Code, why not get in synch
with them to benefit from the aggregate sum of all their research? Why is Dryden in a rush to get out
ahead of the rest of Tompkins County municipalities? Are we trying to make an ideological splash, earn
publicity points?
02:32:54 Joe Wilson: Tax burden is mostly school tax and residents can vote every year what
taxes they want to pay for their schools.
02:33:53 Simon St.Laurent: All of Oak Brook Road is zoned Mixed-use Commercial
02:34:14 Alice Green: Thank you, Simon.