HomeMy WebLinkAbout2016-08-17Dryden
Rail
Trail
Friends
and
Task
Force
Minutes
of
the
August
17,
2016
Meeting
Varna
Community
Center
Attendance:
Steve
Shaum,
Nancy
Kleinrock,
William
Shang,
Armin
Heurich,
Tyson
Merrill,
Bruno
Schickel,
David
Keifer,
Kathy
Ludders,
John
Ludders,
John
Kiefer,
Brian
Postle,
Milo
Richmond,
David
Fogel,
Nancy
Brown,
Tom
Brown,
Michael
Lane,
Dan
Lamb,
Judy
Pierpont,
Eileen
Maxwell,
Nancy
Munkenbeck,
Bob
Beck,
Alice
Green
Meeting
was
convened
at
7:05
pm.
Review
of
agenda
for
additions
Report
on
Rail
Trail
List
Serve:
Alice
said
the
list
serve
is
open
to
all
interested
in
the
project.
Currently
there
are
70+
members.
All
can
submit
to
the
list
serve.
Replies
can
be
directed
to
the
individual
originating
a
message,
or
to
all
list
serve
members.
Alice
and
Bob
are
administrators,
able
to
add
or
delete
members,
but
the
list
serve
is
not
moderated.
Seven
new
maps
showing
the
trail
from
Route
13
to
Dryden
Village
have
been
supplied
by
Fernando
D’Aragon
and
his
staff
at
Ithaca
Tompkins
County
Transportation
Council.
They
are
available
for
viewing
on
the
Dryden
Town
Website:
http://dryden.ny.us/board-‐
commission-‐list/rail-‐trail-‐task-‐force
Tax
Maps,
Ownership,
Property
Deeds,
Surveys,
and
Trail
Easement
Prep
Bob,
Bruno
and
Alice
have
been
visiting
property
owners
along
the
section
of
the
trail
between
Game
Farm
Road
and
Route
13.
Bob
is
preparing
easements
tailored
to
each
property.
Most
owners
have
been
contacted
and
the
response
has
been
very
positive.
Tom
and
Nancy
Brown
just
submitted
their
signed
easement,
and
were
thanked
enthusiastically
by
all
in
attendance.
Bob
distributed
a
very
well
articulated
letter
of
support
from
Rachel
Graham,
another
property
owner
who
signed
the
easement.
Bob
described
a
situation
with
one
unresponsive
property
owner
in
Varna
whose
land
appeared
to
cross
to
both
sides
of
the
RR
right
of
way.
He
studied
tax
maps
and
deeds
and
discovered
that
the
actual
property
line
only
goes
half
way
across
the
right
of
way,
which
allows
a
work
around—across
the
Cornell-‐owned
half.
The
County
Assessment
office
agreed
with
Bob’s
analysis,
and
officially
changed
the
property
map.
New
maps
for
the
Route
13
to
Dryden
section
include
info
about
properties
that
are
adjacent
to
but
do
not
extend
across
the
RR
bed.
There
are
about
48
RR
property
owners
on
the
Ithaca
to
Dryden
route,
with
a
few
owning
multiple
properties.
Mike
Lane
suggested
contacting
Mahlon
Perkins
regarding
the
original
deeds.
Bob
said
he
will
contact
Mahlon
to
verify
who
owns
the
FH
Fox
Bridge.
Todd
Bittner
is
working
with
Cornell
Real
Estate
to
review
the
easement
Bob
prepared
for
the
several
Cornell
properties.
Dan
Lamb
noted
that
when
a
significant
number
of
easements
are
in
hand,
a
town
hearing
will
be
scheduled
to
accept
them.
Freeville
Village
Trail
Agreement
with
the
Town
of
Dryden
David
Fogel
reported
that
the
Village
of
Freeville
Board
of
Trustees
is
solidly
behind
the
project.
There
are
a
number
of
ways
to
situate
the
trail.
The
village
is
considering
a
proposed
pocket
park
on
Route
38.
It
could
be
a
great
junction,
with
a
Railroad
Station
theme,
exhibits,
etc.
Regarding
maintenance,
the
Village
might
consider
the
model
if
the
Village
of
Dryden
has
an
agreement
with
the
Town
of
Dryden
to
maintain
the
trail.
The
railroad
station
theme
could
be
extended
to
other
stops
along
the
entire
trail.
William
George
Agency
Breakthrough!
Bruno
Schickel
reported
that
he
and
Bob
Beck
had
a
very
encouraging
meeting
with
administrators
at
the
agency.
Bruno
had
a
preliminary
conversation
with
Pat
Foote,
William
George
facilities
manager,
who
lives
on
the
Schug
trail.
This
helped
anticipate
points
of
contention
from
the
past,
and
garnered
Pat’s
support
for
the
meeting.
An
obstacle
for
the
George
Agency
was
an
earlier
proposal
that
would
have
taken
the
trail
under
George
Road
through
a
tunnel
that
would
have
created
a
place
where
kids
could
hide.
Bruno
surveyed
the
site
and
proposed
going
back
300-‐400
feet
and
creating
a
gradual
slope
to
get
up
to
and
accross
the
road.
This
eliminates
the
need
for
a
tunnel,
and
it
might
also
create
a
site
for
a
small
parking
area.
When
they
met
with
George
Agency
officials,
Jeff
Daily
and
Danielle
Chase,
they
presented
maps,
easement
documents
and
the
trail
plan.
Jeff
agreed
to
recommend
the
trail
easement
to
his
board
at
their
fall
meeting,
and
talked
about
their
need
to
be
a
good
neighbor.
The
trail
might
enhance
their
horseback
program.
It
might
be
necessary
to
add
gates
at
certain
points.
Next
Steps
Contact
property
owners
in
the
next
section
After
good
progress
working
at
both
ends
of
the
proposed
trail,
the
next
challenge
will
be
to
contact
owners
along
the
Route
13/NYSEG
to
Dryden
Village
section.
Once
again,
it
will
be
helpful
if
any
trail
supporters
who
know
these
property
owners
can
help
the
task
force
approach
them.
Meet
with
DOT
Officials
The
NY
State
Department
of
Transportation
(DOT)
is
likely
to
release
a
Request
for
Proposals
for
Grants
for
projects
shortly.
They
will
meet
with
local
leaders
September
6,
and
it
will
be
important
for
representatives
from
our
Dryden
trail
group
to
meet
with
them.
Hope
to
have
a
separate
meeting
to
learn
what
the
DOT
could
support
in
a
Dryden
Trail
grant,
and
to
clarify
ownership
of
the
FH
Fox
Bridge.
Bill
Shang
noted
that
the
benefits
of
the
trail
from
a
public
health
perspective
should
be
emphasized.
He
volunteered
to
help
write
about
this
for
a
section
of
the
grant
proposal.
Explore
alternatives
for
Route
13
Crossing
Bruno
suggested
one
solution
might
be
an
at-‐grade
pedestrian
crossing.
Several
expressed
concern
regarding
safety
for
pedestrians
and
bikers.
Going
under
the
highway
bridge
at
Fall
Creek
could
add
2/3
to
¾
mile
to
the
trail,
but
it
would
add
a
creek-‐side
experience.
For
transportation
grant
purposes,
a
path
to
the
Route
366
intersection
should
be
included
as
a
spur
to
the
trail,
to
tie
it
in
with
NYSEG,
etc.,
as
an
employment
hub.
The
following
alternatives
for
the
crossing
were
brainstormed:
• An
at-‐grade
crossing
• Wide
shoulder
right
of
way
outside
of
guard
rails
or
a
mowed
path
that
takes
the
trail
under
the
bridge
• Crossing
at
the
intersection
of
Rtes.
13
and
366
where
there’s
a
light,
and
proceeding
along
Hall
road
to
rejoin
the
RR
bed
• Obtain
Cornell
plantations
approval
to
cut
an
angle
down
through
the
woods
• A
bridge
over
the
highway
(in
Buffalo
there’s
a
bridge
over
the
highway
with
a
circular
on
ramp)
• A
tunnel
under
Route
13
Prepare
a
Grant
Proposal
Back
in
the
1999,
Former
Town
Supervisor
Jim
Schug
coordinated
a
50-‐page
proposal
for
this
project,
complete
with
many
letters
of
support
from
area
stakeholders.
This
can
serve
as
a
start
for
the
new
proposal,
and
the
task
force
needs
help
in
updating
the
support
letters.
Mike
Lane
suggested
getting
help
on
the
grant
from
the
county
Planning
Department.
The
following
people
volunteered
to
help
with
grant
writing:
Judy
P.,
Milo,
Bill
Shang,
Alice,
David
F
and
John
Kiefer.
Announcement:
Armin
reported
that
the
Finger
Lakes
Cycling
Club
will
be
celebrating
the
completion
of
the
Black
Diamond
Train
at
Cass
Park
pavilion
on
Sunday,
Oct.
2.
The
BD
trail
is
8.3
miles
long,
with
a
cinder/
crushed
gravel
surface
over
landscape
fabric.
It
required
18
culverts.
At
one
time
there
was
a
Black
Diamond
passenger
train.
Meeting
adjourned
at
8:45
pm
The
NEXT
MEETING
was
set
for
7
pm
Wednesday
September
21.
(The
meeting
will
be
in
the
Dryden
Village
Hall,
16
South
Street,
Dryden)
Submitted
by:
Alice
Walsh
Green