HomeMy WebLinkAbout2016-06-22Dryden
Rail
Trails
Task
Force
&
Friends
Working
Meeting
June
22,
2016
Dryden
DPW
Building
Meeting
Convened
at
7:05
pm
Attendance:
Bob
Beck,
Bruno
Schickel,
David
Fogel,
James
Miner,
Ray
Burger,
John
Kiefer,
Bard
Prentiss,
David
Bravo-‐Cullen,
Alice
Walsh
Green,
Nancy
Munkenbeck,
Milo
Richmond
Agenda
Introductions
Review
Handout
Review
Easement
List
of
landowners
Suggested
Additions
for
Handout
(Bob
presented
formatted
6-‐page
handout)
• URLs
for
trail
information
resources
• References,
testimonials
and
real
estate
value
facts
• Pictures
of
typical
trail
signage
• Links
to
studies
of
experiences
with
trails
around
the
country
Discussion
Items
Opposition
to
South
Hill
Trail
extension
At
a
recent
Dryden
town
board
meeting,
some
residents
spoke
against
a
trail
extension
from
the
Six
Mile
Creek
Natural
area
towards
Brooktondale
that
crosses
four
different
townships,
including
the
southwest
corner
of
Dryden.
Many
adjacent
landowners
were
concerned
about
an
increase
in
crime
if
the
trail
is
formalized.
(It
was
noted
that
studies
show
more
formal
trails
bring
crime
rates
down.)
An
effort
to
build
this
trail
was
attempted
in
2008,
and
stymied
when
a
dispute
arose
over
whether
the
tract
is
owned
by
NYSE&G
or
the
adjacent
landowners.
NYSE&G
currently
pays
taxes
on
the
section.
Question
re
acquisition
of
the
Schug
trail.
It
was
partly
owned
by
the
DEC,
the
Town
acquired
the
remainder
of
the
land
for
the
trail.
Hunting
on
and
near
the
trail
There
will
be
signage
during
hunting
season,
caution
to
put
dogs
on
leash,
etc.
Some
hunting
occurs
off
the
Schug
trail
(ducks)
but
has
not
been
a
problem.
(See
discussions
of
hunting
issues
in
previous
minutes.)
Paving
material
and
handicapped
access
The
trail
will
be
primarily
covered
with
stone
dust,
a
gravel
mix
that
packs
down,
allowing
handicapped
access.
There’s
no
intention
to
create
a
fully
paved
trail,
but
that
wouldn’t
be
ruled
out
in
particular
sections.
Suggestions
for
Changes
to
the
Handout
for
Landowners
• Add
more
about
the
economic
benefits
to
landowners
along
a
trail.
This
needs
to
counter
balance
arguments
that
“property
value
will
tank.”
• Add
URLs
for
more
info.
(Ray
said
these
could
be
added
to
the
Town
website
within
a
couple
of
weeks.)
Comments/
Suggestions
re:
the
Easement
Document
• Remove
sections
2d
and
2e,
and
include
any
particular
stipulations
in
a
Schedule
A
instead
• If
there
is
any
mortgage
on
the
property,
protection
for
the
easement
(subordination)
must
be
obtained
from
the
mortgage
holder.
(This
language
isn’t
included
in
the
document,
so
the
person
approaching
a
landowner
must
bring
it
up.)
• There
is
a
difference
between
conservation
and
trail
easements.
With
conservation
easements,
a
landowner
may
receive
income
tax
breaks
for
the
charitable
donation
of
development
rights.
For
a
trail
easement,
tax
breaks
are
not
generally
sought.
Landowners
won’t
be
encouraged
to
get
an
appraisal
for
find
out
how
much
they’re
giving
away,
and
the
town
won’t
pay
for
it.
• To
describe
the
easement
right
of
way,
it
is
hoped
that
we
can
refer
to
information
in
previous
deeds
and
surveys
recorded
in
the
County
Clerk’s
office.
This
would
save
the
expense
of
hiring
surveyors
or
making
elaborate
descriptions
of
the
rail
bed.
(Descriptions
were
sometimes
vague
when
Mahlon
Perkins
sold
the
sections
back
to
landowners.)
The
town
attorney
will
have
to
decide
if
descriptions
are
adequate,
and
those
negotiating
with
landowners
will
try
to
give
an
accurate
description
as
a
first
draft.
• There
was
a
discussion
about
getting
volunteer
help
from
a
surveyor
or
attorney,
with
two
names
suggested
by
Milo.
• A
lengthy
model
Trail
Easement
and
commentary
from
Pennsylvania
may
yield
additional
details
to
cover
in
the
Dryden
document.
Bob
is
studying
it.
• The
issue
of
Liability
is
important.
NYS
law
helps
protect
landowners
from
suits
by
trespassers
who
are
injured
on
their
land.
For
the
trail,
the
Town
will
also
indemnify
landowners.
• Todd
will
bring
the
Dryden
Draft
to
Cornell
attorneys
for
their
review.
Review
of
Landowners
List
Attendees
worked
from
the
trail
section
map
and
landowner
list
provided
by
the
Ithaca-‐
Tompkins
County
Transportation
office,
to
identify
specific
landowners
to
approach
first.
Properties
considered
important
to
approach
soon
to
build
momentum
were
listed
as
numbers:
8,4,19,18,
21,
and
11.
Bruno
will
contact
the
owner
and
manager
of
Varna
LLC
(#8,
Lucente)
and
Brown,
to
begin
talks
about
the
trail.
When
the
Design
Connect
team
contacted
landowners
along
this
section
of
the
proposed
trail,
there
was
no
significant
opposition
(other
than
the
DEC
Game
Farm),
according
to
Bob.
There
were
issues
raised
from
property
owners
east
of
Route
13.
It
was
decided
to
approach
state
elected
officials
Barbara
Lifton
and
Jim
Seward
to
enlist
their
help
in
negotiating
with
the
Game
Farm
and
the
William
George
Agency
about
their
respective
sections
of
the
trail.
Bruno
volunteered
to
contact
Sen.
Seward.
Milo
offered
to
help
with
Game
Farm
negotiations,
unless
Mary
Ann
Sumner
is
providing
leadership
on
this.
The
last
meeting
with
the
William
George
Agency
management
was
some
time
ago;
second
hand
word
is
that
the
new
management
is
just
as
opposed
to
a
trail
on
the
property.
There
was
a
suggestion
to
connect
with
long
time
staff
there
for
a
read
on
how
to
approach
management.
As
Mayor
of
Freeville,
David
could
host
a
meeting
with
Agency
officials,
Bruno
and
Bob.
Fred
Bonn
from
NYS
Parks
was
mentioned
as
another
supporter
and
resource.
Ray
asked
whether
a
subcommittee
was
needed
to
apply
for
a
NYS
Parks
grant,
with
the
application
due
on
July
31.
However,
it
appears
such
an
application
must
wait
until
all
easements
are
in
place.
Meeting
adjourned
at
9:14
pm
Next
Meeting:
7
pm
Wednesday,
July
20
Village
of
Freeville
Hall.