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Dryden Planning Board
March 23, 2017
Members Present: Marty Moseley (Chair), Joe Wilson, John Kiefer, Marty Hatch, Tom
Hatfield, David Weinstein, and Hilary Lambert (Alternate). Craig Anderson is excused.
Liaisons Present: Jason Leifer, Town Board
Town Hall Staff: Ray Burger, Planning Director
Guests: Susan Brock, Town Attorney
The meeting was called to order at 7:02PM
Public Comments:
430 Lake Road, Carl Snyder: NY Land Quest
- The applicant was required to do an archaeological study. Archaeologists from
Binghamton University completed 13 shovel test pits with negative results.
- The archaeologists recommended a phase “1b” during which they would dig 150
number more pits. The recommendation was based on the archaeological find-
ings near the lake dam in previous years.
- Mr. Snyder indicated that the likely places for archaeological findings would be
near the lake and those areas are conservation areas so no building or digging
would occur there.
- J. Kiefer said he is satisfied with the work done and the results.
Resolution #9
J. Kiefer offered the following resolution:
Whereas, the applicant has fulfilled the requirements per SEQR to determine the ar-
chaeological significance of the property located at 430 Lake Road; and
Whereas, the applicant hired Binghamton University to conduct the evaluation and
who dug thirteen test pits with no findings of historical significance; and
Whereas, items of archaeological significance were found at a location on the opposite
side of the lake which led to the recommendation that an additional 150 test pits be
dug.
Therefore, be it resolved the Dryden Planning Board has determined the original thir-
teen test pits to be sufficient evidence of the lack of significant archaeological findings.
The motion was seconded by D. Weinstein and unanimously approved.
M. Moseley will write a letter to New York State indicating the Planning Board’s deter-
mination.
The Public Comment period was closed at 7:07PM.
Introduction to the Pineridge Cottages proposal on Mineah Road: Richard Wawak
and John Anderson
- The property is 12 acres and has frontage on Route 13 and Mineah Road. The ac-
cess from Route 13 will be for stormwater management and there won’t be any thru
traffic.
- They are planning drilled wells and water storage facilities that will get approval
from the Tompkins County Health Department.
- The cottages will have individual septic systems also approved by the Health De-
partment.
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- The cottages will be all electric. They are being built into the hill with the first floor
being halfway in the ground. They do not plan to install any insulation above code.
- The housing will be concentrated in the middle of the land parcel. The upper part of
the property will be left natural and the lower part will be the stormwater manage-
ment facility.
- The slopes where they are building will be between 15 to 20% which is part of the
reason for building into the hill.
- D. Weinstein returned to the question about energy use. He asked if they are using
air source heat pumps or baseboard heating.
- The cottages will have an 800 sq ft base and use baseboard heat.
- M. Hatch asked if the developer is aware of the county’s heatsmart program which
provides incentives to use renewable energies.
- Mr. Wawak indicated the buildings are oriented to the south with lots of windows to
increase the heat.
- The cottages will be rentals.
- Mr. Wawak is asking for additional parking spots for ease of plowing and overflow
parking.
- D. Weinstein asked if Mr. Wawak has considered a bus stop. He has because the
bus stops directly across from Mineah road but there is not enough space between
the road and the property fence.
- This project will be back before the Planning Board next month.
1061 PUD review and public feedback:
William Reed - 1065 Dryden Road
- Even though he grew up here, he understands things change. He feels that one
needs to be open to what Varna will become rather than what it was 30 years ago.
He is not against the project but has some recommendations.
- He would like to see a shared driveway access.
- He wants more screening.
- He feels the maintenance building should be moved so it is not the first building
seen as someone drives up.
- He would like to see the water and sewer lines changed so they don’t cut across
his property.
- He has called Mr. Sloan and they have talked about some of the concerns.
- M. Hatch is interested in space for outdoor recreation experience. He asked if that
has been explored with Mr. Sloan.
- Mr. Reed said his concern is the access to the railroad trail and he said he was
willing to talk to Mr. Sloan about it further. Perhaps the fence could be removed
or moved to permit more green space by using some of Mr. Reed’s property.
- D. Weinstein said that his impression is that the tie in to the sewer and water is
across Reed’s driveway. Mr. Reed thinks the better way would be to go along the
road and then up along the new driveway to the proposed project.
- D. Weinstein doesn’t think he can move ahead with the project if the sewer and wa-
ter are cutting across the property.
- Mr. Reed feels that things tend to work out when the two groups get together. He is
positive about the project.
Laurie Snyder, 36 Freese Road, said she is amazed at how dense the project is.
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23 March 2017
To: Dryden Town Planning Board
In regard to the 1061 Dryden Road Developmment.
I think the project is too dense for the lot. The 36 units in 6 buildings really packs the site.
There is too little safe place for children to play. The edge of the lot is cliff-like.
I think that 3 bedroom units should have parking available for 3 cars, There is NO over flow
parking for guests/visitors.
I think the entrance/egress to the lot is too tight and on a hill of 366. This layout is dangerous
for entering and exiting the development.
The entire project scale is insensitive to the Varna Master Plan and the neighbors.
Laurie Snyder 36 Freese Road Ithaca, NY 14850
607 272 2178 snydwood@yahoo.com
Buzz Dolph, 26 Quarry Road
- This property is zoned rural residential. He doesn't understand, knowing the Varna
community would rather see single family owned residents, why a developer would
want to plaster it with 36 more town houses. It is not the best for the town. If you
are going to do a PUD, do it with a sense of community in mind rather than for
money. There are better places to do student housing.
D. Weinstein asked Ray Burger about the questions generated at the March 1st meet-
ing. His understanding was that the comments he had would be forwarded to the de-
veloper but there is no evidence that they were forwarded or answered.
- One of his questions was regarding energy and was handled fine by questions
asked by other people.
- Another question dealt with the tie in lines for sewer and water. He is concerned
that those lines are crossing another person’s land.
- The third question asked whether the developer would consider a reduction in the
number of the units so there would be a play area for kids.
- His final question was about the vegetative buffer which was, again, covered by
other members’ questions.
- D. Weinstein said he is not willing to support the project without the answers to his
questions.
M. Moseley reminded the board that we are making recommendations to the Town
Board. This board is not making any final decisions. D. Weinstein’s questions could be
incorporated into the recommendations.
T. Hatfield pointed out that we have often passed things on with conditions but he
agrees that the water/sewer issue is important and the common driveway would also
be a good idea.
M. Moseley pointed out that the Town Board will move forward whether we make rec-
ommendations or not.
J. Wilson asked his colleagues to consider the following conditions:
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- the project has to be heated and cooled with air source heat pumps.
- water heaters should be air source - there was ample opportunity to comment on
the relative costs and challenges the developer faced at the March 1st meeting.
They had an agreement that the developer would respond to the questions for-
warded to him in some detail. If the questions were irrelevant or impossible to an-
swer, then they would say that but instead they are still investigating. The devel-
oper and his consultants are deliberately not here tonight to answer questions.
- He recommends the amount of housing proposed not be approved because there
is not enough space there for the kinds of activities that have been recommended.
- This is a PUD. It is supposed to have a high level of benefits to the folks that live
there and the town for the special zoning. To him, this looks like another motel
complex with one exemption: the materials on the outside look nice.
- Confining the parking despite the probable demand doesn’t make sense.
- He reiterated that the questions he has asked on the energy systems could have
easily been answered. He has talked to engineers, in general regarding the heat
pumps, and determined that the information could have been easily forthcoming.
He recommends the Town Board not approve the PUD based on the plan that is
put forth tonight.
J. Kiefer agreed with the points made but the Comprehensive Plan encourages devel-
opment close to population centers and specifically hamlet areas. He doesn’t think
there is anything patently wrong with this project.
- He does not think this project should be denied because although it is not ac-
ceptable, it can be made acceptable.
- He commended the developer for the solar panels, however, the buildings do not
face the correct direction. He encouraged the developer to take the money from
the panels and put those funds into air source pumps.
J. Wilson indicated that the letter to M. Moseley from the developer implies the Town
Board had told the developer to put up solar arrays; it was a suggestion, not a promise
of approval.
D. Weinstein read the following section from the Comprehensive Plan.
Rural Residential Development
“Beyond the periphery of villages and hamlets, lower residential development densities
would be allowed in areas designated as Rural Residential. The intent of these Rural
Residential areas is to allow residents that desire to do so the option of living in a rural
environment. In these areas agriculture is also expected to be a major land use well
into the future and permitted in any future zoning regulations.
In the Rural Residential areas single- and two-family homes would represent the pre-
dominant form of development, at an overall density of 1 dwelling every two acres.
This overall density is proposed as a means of reducing the overall development poten-
tial of the area.”
J. Kiefer showed a map from the Comprehensive Plan that shows this property as be-
ing in the hamlet zone. Page 51.
D. Weinstein and J. Kiefer continued to discuss what is laid out in the Comprehensive
Plan, the Zoning Law and the intentions thereof.
J. Wilson stated that he does not believe the Town Board should approve the PUD un-
less the developer incorporates the suggestions offered, primarily about the air source
heat pumps.
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Resolution #10
J. Kiefer offered the following resolution:
Whereas, Gary Sloan, project owner, has proposed a Planned Unit Development locat-
ed at 1061 Dryden Road; and
Whereas, a Planned Unit Development is intended to provide certain benefits for the
Town and the residents living in the PUD; and
Whereas, several of the anticipated benefits are not included in the proposed plan, in-
cluding a recreation space/play area; and
Whereas, at the March 1, 2017 meeting of the Planning Board, a list of questions was
generated and provided to the applicant with the expectation of answers prior to the
March 26, 2017 meeting; and
Whereas, the applicant failed to answer some of the questions pertaining to energy
usage; and
Whereas, the applicant has also failed to adjust their proposal based on recommenda-
tions from the Planning Board;
Therefore, be it resolved, that the Town of Dryden Planning Board recommends to
the Town Board deny the Planned Unit Development proposal located at 1061 Dryden
Road unless the developer address the following recommendations:
1. As a road cut and driveway already exist that could be used to access the parcel,
the developer needs to consider developing a shared driveway with 1065 Dryden Road.
2. The developer needs to move the expected intersection with the public water and
sewer facilities to a location on his property eliminating the need to cross another res-
ident’s property.
3. The vegetative buffer between 1061 Dryden Road and 1067 Dryden Road needs to
be more substantial.
4. The developer needs to reconsider the proposed energy sources. The Planning Board
recommends removing the photovoltaic panels from the plan and requiring the use of
air source heating and cooling for the entire project.
5. The Planning Board strongly recommends the developer reduce the number of
planned units to accommodate the desired recreation space/play area.
6. The developer needs to create a designated recreation space/play area.
7. The developer needs to reduce the overall density of the project.
8. The developer needs to create additional parking accommodations.
M. Hatch seconded the motion which after discussion was unanimously approved.
Review of Distributed Sun’s proposal:
M. Hatch asked what the goal is tonight for this project? What is the job that the
Planning Board should be doing?
M. Moseley said that the Planning Board should be reviewing the application and lis-
tening to the public. Since we don’t have a complete application, we cannot make any
decisions.
The Board needs to rescind Resolutions #6 and #7 of 2017 because the Town Board
has requested lead agency status on this project.
Resolution #11
T. Hatfield offered the following resolution:
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WHEREAS, on January 26, 2017, the Dryden Planning Board adopted Resolution #6
(2017), which stated the 2150 Dryden Road subdivision proposal by Distributed Sun,
LLC, is an Unlisted action for the purposes of uncoordinated environmental review in
connection with approval by the Town, and
WHEREAS, in Resolution #6 (2017), the Dryden Planning Board made a negative de-
termination of environmental significance in accordance with SEQR, and
WHEREAS, on January 26, 2017, the Planning Board adopted Resolution #7 (2017),
which approved the sketch plan for the 2150 Dryden Rd subdivision, and
WHEREAS, the Planning Board believed the Distributed Sun proposal is an Unlisted
action and made a negative determination of environmental significance because it
mistakenly considered the action as only the proposed subdivision and it did not con-
sider the entire action as required by SEQR, including the solar facilities Distributed
Sun proposes to build on the subdivided lots, and
WHEREAS, the Planning Board has now learned that Distributed Sun’s project for
2150 Dryden Road is a Type I action under SEQR, because it involves the construction
of nonresidential facilities that would result in the physical alteration of at least 10
acres, and
WHEREAS, pursuant to SEQR’s requirements, Type I actions require a coordinated
environmental review among all involved agencies, and
WHEREAS, at its March 16, 2017 meeting, the Dryden Town Board declared its intent
to be the lead agency for purposes of a coordinated SEQR review for the Distributed
Sun project, and requested concurrence from involved agencies, including the Dryden
Planning Board, now, therefore, be it
RESOLVED, the Planning Board hereby rescinds Resolution #6 (2017) in its entirety,
including its negative determination of environmental significance, and be it further
RESOLVED, that because the Planning Board may not consider an approval until
SEQR is completed, the Planning Board hereby rescinds Resolution #7 (2017) in its
entirety, and be it further
RESOLVED, that the Planning Board concurs in having the Town Board act as lead
agency for the coordinated environmental review of this project.
M. Hatch seconded the motion. There was no further discussion and the motion was
unanimously approved.
J. Kiefer confirmed that the Dodge road subdivision is simply a lot line change which
will be done administratively.
The Planning Board is looking at all of the solar projects for purposes of tonight’s dis-
cussion. There are 16 separate applications for solar projects and each project will
have its own SUP. The SEQR will be done as groups so there isn’t a segmentation to
the environmental aspects.
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Public Comments
Pat Fitzgibbons – 637 Wilson Creek Road, Newark Valley - People make property buy-
ing decisions based on location, location, location. The people depend on you (the
Planning Board) and the zoning law to protect those decisions and our property val-
ues. It is unfair to change those laws to allow a subdivision for an out of state entity,
it is a slap in the face to the property owners. We are not talking about 2 solar farms,
we are talking about 16. He does not understand why we would change the subdivi-
sion law to accommodate an out-of-state entity taking advantage of the generous tax
rebates that NYS offers. He feels that the subdivisions are a way to skirt the 2 mw law
and that the Dryden boards are co-conspirators.
Rachel Crispell – 134 Harford Road - She has 12 immediate family members in Wil-
low Glen as well as several other family members. She doesn’t trust the companies
that are going to be putting in the solar panels. They should be on a south facing
hillside and this will be eyesore to anyone visiting the cemetery. She is concerned with
people who want to buy a lot just few feet from a solar field.
Marie McRae - Irish Settlement Road – She is here to urge the Board to do whatever
you can to support the installation of solar in Dryden. Dryden has been a leader in en-
ergy issues and we have come to a point in our history were we need to seriously cut
back on fossil fuels. We need to get energy from the sun and the wind. This project will
move us in that direction. Solar panels do not give off noxious fumes and are quiet.
They do not increase traffic; they are very nice neighbors. She encouraged the board to
mitigate the concerns of close by home owners is also important, visual mitigation is
important but she understands that those negotiations are currently underway. She
looks forward to seeing the applications move forward.
Harvey Borchardt – 135 Sheldon Road - He is new to NY but came from the mid-west
where they have wind farms. He has observed solar panels in NY area that seem to be
of great interest. He has listened to the Planning Board discuss heat pumps and ener-
gy efficiency. He believes a solar farm would be to the benefit of all concerned.
Shirley Price - 287 George Road – She has an issue with parcel 1 and 6 of the 2150
Dryden Road proposal. Parcel 1 will have solar arrays in a 100 year flood zone, they
plan to cut the trees along Virgil Creek, a trout stream. She can see where it could
cause erosion along the creek bed and it will be loss of habitat for wildlife and birds.
She questioned how an investment of 51 million is to show a profit? How can they sell
that much energy in the NYSEG area? She thinks they have Cornell in their pocket
and that Cornell will be their biggest customer. She doesn’t like what this is doing to
our landscape; to have solar arrays in the heart of Dryden is distracting from the
beauty of our landscape. She understands the life of a solar panel is 20-25 years. At
this point, all of our recycling goes to the landfill. If someone really wants solar, why
not put it on your own property and get all of the benefits associated? Why do we need
to have farms? As far as parcel 6, she feels it distracts from the beauty of the ceme-
tery.
Brad Perkins – He has members of his family in the cemetery but he is also the Presi-
dent of the Board of Directors. He has to speak for 7,500 burials and 2,900 lot owners.
He said we have to think about what those families and the dead have to say about
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our “progress”. He met with the proposers of the solar farm and some of the Board
members today at the 2150 Dryden Road site to look at the viewscape. If the project
can’t be taken to a new site entirely, he hopes we would consider eliminating parcels
4, 5 & 6 which will take the solar out of the viewscape of those visiting the cemetery.
Personally he objects to the customization of our subdivisions for this purpose. He
thinks that sets a different precedent for other industry that wants to come to Town.
There must be a reason for only permitting 2mw on a certain size parcel of land. We
have bent over backwards to help these folks and after talking to them today, he is
certain they can help themselves. The Town of Dryden could be the land owner for the
solar farm. We have acreage all around the town hall, and we have 10 acres on John-
son road; those would be better places. The town could bring in the revenues for the
town rather than Washington, DC.
The proposers don’t have to look at the solar farms, this is our land. The assessment
department in our county puts a value on the view you have from your property.
Please remember that the view has value.
Michael Parker – 118 Mill Street - He has a lot of family in the cemetery. He has been
told that this will benefit everyone but his has not been told what the benefit will be –
are the taxes going to go down, is my electric rate going to go down? Honestly, he
doesn’t care. His parents are still alive but they have chosen a burial spot that over-
looks this property. If they build this, that view is going to be ruined and he is not go-
ing to sell his family out for mere savings that have not been proven yet.
Dan Seewald – 51 Yellow Barn Road – As he looks at the Board members, he feels
they have a tough job. He is against this solar system. 23 years ago he was working
for a company that invented an intercept that consisted of mirrors that would follow
the sun. We live at the wrong longitude and latitude to have solar, we don’t get enough
sun. He is not convinced or he would have solar on his roof. This project, if people
think solar is good, it is not good around the cemetery – it defaces the cemetery.
Joe Osmeloski - 2180 Dryden Road – He lives near the cemetery and he will probably
be the most affected.
It is disingenuous to say that if you are against this project, then you are against so-
lar. He is reading and hearing that and it is not right, he believes almost everyone at
the meeting is in favor of solar. At the October meeting at the Neptune Fire Hall, he
heard ways that we can have 2mw systems and disperse them throughout Dryden so
we can keep our rural character. If the developers had proposed site 4 or 5, Mr.
Osmeloski would have been in favor of it. Sites 4, 5 and 6 are going to ruin the
viewscape from the cemetery. He read parts of the recently passed solar law for the
Town of Dryden regarding ground mount large-scale solar systems and they should
not be on prime ag lands. He is a member of the Conservation Board and was a mem-
ber of the Ag Committee. The Ag Committee is working on an ag protection plan. The
whole idea is to protect farmland but on page 9 of 13 in the EAS, it indicates that 32
acres of farmland will be removed.
- Referring back to the solar law, he can go through all six of the proposed lots and
find something in the new solar law that contradicts them all.
- This proposal does not conform with the adopted plans for the town of Dryden and it
emaciates the subdivision law
- Please see attached for more reference.
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Sarah Osmeloski - 2180 Dryden Road
She has no problem with solar in 2mw units dispersed throughout the town. She is
against the farm at 2150 Dryden Road. She feels they circumvented the solar law by
proposing the subdivision. She thinks it is a disgusting subdivision and that the board
should not apply special rules to the subdivision. This subdivision should be treated
like any other subdivision. The lease for Distributed Sun is 30 years. What happens in
30 years when the solar is decommissioned? We will have landlocked parcels of land.
She is very concerned about stormwater run-off; her property is downhill and to the
east of three of the solar arrays. She also wants a major vegetative screen along her
property line (on the east side of the Pinney property). Pinney seems to want to turn
this into an industrial zone. She also wants screening along route 13 so drivers don’t
have to look at them. Her second request is to see the 15 acres of forest that is going
to be removed, replanted somewhere on the property.
Craig Schutt – 69 Schutt Road - He attended the walk around today. He agrees with
most of what has been said. He has been on the Conservation Board 17 years and a
few years ago everyone was eager to turn the town in to CEAs; this area would fit in a
CEA. What we heard today is they are cutting the trees to the wetland (they can’t go
into the wetland due to State and Federal law) but the developer indicated that there
was no reason to leave the trees there. They will destroy all the habitats there; if this
happens, it is an environmental disaster as far as he is concerned. The entire site will
have to be fenced preventing the movement of wildlife. There are places for 2 mw sys-
tems in this town but to use 70-75 acres to cover with solar panels is not a good idea.
He also has a lot of relatives in the cemetery and he objects to the view that he will
have when visiting there.
The Conservation Board was never asked to weigh in on this project. That is what the
Conservation Board is supposed to do. It will be discussed at the next Conservation
Board meeting per Mr. Schutt’s request.
Robert Kuehn – 1150 Ellis Hollow Road – finagling around with the parcel maps is
wrong. Cornell owns the whole field and to chop it up so the solar fits - that finagling
is no good. He is starting to feel sorry for Sun8; they are a victim of Cornell. Cornell
gave him trouble spots when Cornell owns 1000s of acres. He heard from a Cornell
representative that it costs a million dollars a mile to bring the electric lines to the
substation. At the end of Ellis Hollow Road where the horses are; he has been going
past there for 20 years but he has never seen more than 7-8 horses but there are
hundreds of acres. Cornell is part octopus and leech. They spread out and throw up
an ink screen and then they suck blood. They are trying to put a solar farm up across
the road from people’s houses that are right on the road. He feels bad for the Sun8
representative because his company has to raise money, make the connection and
maintain it. It makes Cornell look great – look at what we are doing to save the planet.
Janis Graham -1150 Ellis Hollow Road – She said she has submitted a petition pro-
testing the large scale industrial. Today they asked for ways to mitigate it but they felt
that everything they suggested, like downsizing or pushing the project back, was not
viable. She asked that the Planning Board look at whether the project fulfills the pur-
pose of the solar law; it fulfills number one but two and three talk about increasing
employment and decreasing the cost of energy. She also asked that the Planning
Board look into the contention that there are no alternate locations for the Dodge Road
and Ellis Hollow road to change the configuration. There has been talk about mitigat-
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ing affects by taking plots from other areas. She feels like she hears “we can’t make it
smaller, we can’t set it back, we can’t move them”. The current plan engulfs their road.
Buzz Dolph – 26 Quarry Road – it is my town as much as yours. He believes that the
savings from this project is to save the planet. If you do believe in solar then you must
believe in some way or form that solar is needed. If you don’t believe the planet is
burning up then you can agree with Mr. Trump and deny the science. It gets tedious
to hear people say “I am really for solar but I don’t want to see it”. He lives on Ellis
Hollow and is going to look at it. He hopes he can be proud of his town for doing the
right thing. It is frustrating to only hear from people that are directly affected. He has
not heard anyone from George Road talking about Dodge Road.
Rosalie Borzik – 11 Johnson Road - she has questions concerning how a farm of the-
se dimensions will be managed. She understands that sod get put under the panels
and asked if herbicide will be applied to keep the grass low? Sheep will be used to
maintain the green under the panels. She proposed they make a habitat for pollina-
tors. The highway departments are cutting back the roadside killing the milkweed
plants which are needed for monarch butterflies. She recommended the melding of
habitat and solar. She has the same feeling about the size of the farms, she leans
more toward smaller parcels. This is an opportunity here to try something that goes
beyond solar. She is a birder and is concerned about the loss of the trees along Dodge
Road where long eared owls live.
Daren Miller – 74 Dodge Road – We have heard a lot of the common arguments to-
night about the infringement on viewscapes and wildlife. He has all of those concerns
but tonight he has some other issues. The project is directly across the road from his
property. This morning he was part of the meeting (the group that gathered at Dodge
road to visit the site and ask questions) with some of the Planning Board members
and Cornell came out of the shadows for the first time. They added a little information
that the residents were lacking. They have been working on this for two years and we
only have 2 weeks notice to try to figure out what is going on. The more they talked to
them, the more inconsistencies came up. The primary thing they have been suggesting
is the site selection; they are adamant that they have researched this and there is no
compromise. Yet, they changed the plan once already in regard to S4 and S5 so that is
not really true. As far as the exploration of sites Cornell representative stated that they
have spent time and effort looking at everything and the only areas that met the crite-
ria are where they put them. Some residents suggested sites that the Cornell repre-
sentative had never heard of so he doesn’t believe that they have done a thorough job.
Some of the sites – S4 and S5 - could have greater setbacks (because they are adjacent
to other parcels) but Cornell argued that those are research fields. With the law that
was recently passed – we haven’t heard anything about setback rules, or vegetative
screening – none of that was written into the law that he has seen. We are going into a
new era that is solar but this policy does not address the issues. You can’t start a
game without knowing the rules. Last they got some information this morning about
the tie in issue. This morning they were told the only acceptable tie in is the East Itha-
ca substation. If that is the case, how are they going to tie the Dryden Road site into
that substation but they discount the suggestion that they move up to Mount Pleasant
which would be much less distance – the inconsistency troubles us. The North array
of the Ellis site needs to be tied in too – it is more than a mile. All of these things are
inconsistencies and we shouldn’t rush into this.
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Jim Shipman - 11 Dodge Road – He has the same concerns for Dodge Road as the
other sites. His opinion is that this is massive and will make Dodge road completely
unrecognizable. He finances housing and he sees real estate all the time. He cannot
believe that facility is not going to impact the value of Mr. Miller’s home. He does not
want to see a SUP granted for this location. In the letter, it appears that they are more
concerned about themselves, the negative impacts on Sun8 than the mitigating factors
(The letter referred to is one to the Town Board from Sun8 asking for a waiver to the
public utility moratorium). His experience is that if you are asking for a special permit
you are asking something that is not normally allowed but they have not stated why
their request is warranted.
There was a short discussion regarding the public members who wished to speak – the
list of speakers will pick up where we left off at the next Planning Board meeting (April
27).
Carrie Brindisi - 344 Turkey Hill Road - There are 4 homes on Turkey Hill Road listed
on the sketch plan document that are privately owned but are listed as Cornell owned.
Their house abutts directly with the S5 lot and currently on the sketch plan docu-
ment, her parcel overlaps with a parcel that is slated for tree removal but they own
that property. There are significant inaccuracies in the documentation. She has talked
to representatives from Distributed Sun and Cornell and they are aware of the inaccu-
racies. She asked that this slows down and that all documentation is reviewed very
carefully. They recognize this important and they want to support the project but they
have serious concerns. Her secondary concern is with the fence - the barbed wire is
not so nice if you live close. She asked that they minimize the visual impact.
Written comments are attached.
Bruno Schickel - NYS created a community solar law that allows community solar to
be exempt from property tax. The law allowed them to not be regulated by the PSC, to
sell for their electricity for more than a normal power generator can sell for and he as-
sumes they kept the size at 2 mw/10 acres to limit its impact. This was supposed to
be a relatively low impact solar installation that would still be viable. Bigger than 2mw
becomes a utility. It is regulated by the PSC, has to sell power at wholesale prices and
it has a big impact. There are 16 different parcels of land which are daisy chaining to-
gether the 2mw to stay under the community solar umbrella so they can charge more,
claim it is not a utility or an industrial installation, it will have a huge impact on the
viewscape, the residents that live near it and the wildlife. Fundamentally it’s dishon-
est, a fraudulent exercise. This Planning Board should not be participating in a fraud-
ulent enterprise. It is fraudulent because when the SEQR review is done, the lots have
to be considered all together. If someone came with 100 apartments but had it divided
into 10 lots, it would not work, they would be laughed out of the room. Fundamental-
ly, he does not believe anyone looks at solar and says “how beautiful”, solar is butt ug-
ly. The Town needs to take a step a back and consider where they can put community
solar installations of 2mw. Not daisy chain them together but where they will have low
impact on the wildlife, residents, the natural surroundings and the residents that live
in that area. The Town is almost 100 square miles, there is area that can be done.
The TC3 site is a good example of minimal impact. You have to respect the push back
you are getting and hearing what is being said.
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March 23, 2017
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An audience member pointed out that the net metering laws changed on March 9,
2017.
T. Hatfield indicated that no one here is probably against solar or other alternative en-
ergy; that is our future and we will have to go there. This is one of the largest towns in
NY.
- We have a cell tower law. In that legislation, the developer has to put forward to the
considering body a study of all the potential sites; they have to prove the sites that
they wanted to use was the best place to put that tower. Although no one wants a
cell tower in their backyard but we all want to be able to pick up the phone and call
911 or family. We all need solar, we all need energy, we all need to be able to flip the
switch and know the power is going to be there. None of us want to pollute the water
or kill animals, we all have those common concerns. We have time here, it will take
a while to get the EIS done and reviewed.
- A request can be to ask them to show us the study – why is this the best or only
spot to put the solar? Are they (Dodge Road and by the cemetery) really the only or
best spots? It has to work all the way around for everyone.
J. Wilson asked if when T. Hatfield requests a study to determine the best site, is he
referring to the 2mw sites or large scale like Sun8?
T. Hatfield does not think we are talking about 2mw or smaller. Anybody who wants to
put solar on their property, we aren’t talking about that and we are probably in favor
of it. The Planning Board spent a lot of time in discussion about including in our solar
law a section on industrial solar and that got taken out of the law. This is an industry.
The one we have mostly been looking at which is the one on Dryden Road, we are look-
ing at a subdivision that we would not look at for any other application.
- this should start with a siting study of the Town. Some of the same issues that are
addressed in the cell tower law should be looked at for the solar as well.
A member of the audience asked/stated: At this point as I understand it, we do not
have a completed application for a subdivision. We are way ahead of things to be talk-
ing about it. How long will the Board consider it before the lack of a completed appli-
cation ends the ongoing discussion?
M. Moseley indicated that without a complete application, the project will not move
forward and the Board will stop considering it.
Additional letters are attached.
The next regular Planning Board meeting is scheduled for April 27th.
There being no further business, on motion made and seconded, the meeting was ad-
journed at 9:20PM.
Respectfully Submitted,
Erin A. Bieber
Deputy Town Clerk
Dryden Planning Board
March 23, 2017
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From: William A. House
20 Lone Oak Road Ithaca, NY 14850
To: Governing Body of the Town of Dryden and Members of the Town of Dryden Planning Board
Subject: Solar Farm
The Town of Dryden is considering a proposal to allow the development of a "solar farm" on Cornell
University property located on Dodge Road and on Cornell property adjacent to Stevenson Road. As currently
proposed, it appears to me that such an extensive array of solar panels would have a very negative impact on
those who reside in these areas.
Alternate energy sources, including solar, are a means by which carbon emissions and the potential
for environmental contamination can be reduced. In the present case, there is a way in which this can be ac-
complished so that there can be a WIN,WIN, WIN outcome from the development of solar farms on Cornell
property. This triple win can occur by relocating the site of the solar collectors. It appears to me that these col-
lectors could be located on Mt. Pleasant Road east of the planetarium or on portions of the research farms near
Harford, NY. There is an extensive area on Mt. Pleasant Road along which there are no residents. Placing the
collectors on Mt. Pleasant would provide the following:
WIN for the Town of Dryden: Revenue from collection of taxes.
WIN for Cornell: Revenue from leasing the land, positive publicity.
WIN for Dodge Road and Stevenson Road residents: They would not have to see the array.
Win for all.
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March 23, 2017
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Comments to the Planning Board 3-23-2017
The proposed solar project is exciting and very interesting, as a land owner on property adjacent
the Cornell plots in the Sketch Plan document I have some concerns that I think must be ad-
dressed before the plan moves forward.
First and foremost I believe that the speed at which this plan is moving has lead to significant
inaccuracies in the documentation. Last week I spoke at the Town Board meeting and pointed
out that several privately owned properties on the southern section of Turkey Hill Road were in-
correctly labeled as Cornell owned properties (House numbers - 344, 352, 366, and 376) includ-
ing my own home which abuts the S5 site. Additionally, Distributed Sun’s documentation also
currently indicates planned tree removal on our private property. While Cornell and Distributed
Sun are working to resolve these mistakes, I believe they are a symptom of a rushed project that
would benefit from more careful review by the town of Dryden.
My second concern is that the fencing around the Solar sites is large and obtrusive. The eight
foot chain link fence topped with barbed wire is not necessary and visually more impactful than
the solar panels themselves. I would like Distributed Sun to decrease the height of the fencing
and remove the barbed wire --This would be a vast improvement on the plan.
Cornell University and Distributed Sun have a vested interest in completing this plan as soon as
possible, but the significant inaccuracies in the preliminary documentation demonstrate the plan
is not ready to move forward at this time. Please take the time to study the plans, listen to resi-
dents directly impacted by this industrial solar power plant and make the best possible decision.
Sincerely,
Carrie Brindisi
Landowner - Turkey Hill Road
Dryden Planning Board
March 23, 2017
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Dryden Planning Board March 23,2017
Pertaining to: Distributed Sun, 2150 Dryden Rd, Large-Scale Solar Project
Please find included with this Letter, Page 5 of the recently adopted Town of Dryden, Solar
Law, and Page 9, of the Full Environmental Assessment form for the Distributed Sun, 2150
Dryden Rd. large-scale solar project.
Distributed Sun is proposing a subdivision of the property at 2150 Dryden Rd. into 6 dis-
tinctive lots, taking up 78 acres, to install Solar panels.
All the lots, numbered 1-6 on the Labella Associates, map provided for the Special Use
Permit either contradict or are in direct violation of the above Dryden Solar law as follows:
Lot#l:
UNA near Virgil Creek
In the 100 year Flood plain
Adjacent to proposed Dryden Trail System
Takes up prime farmland
Lot #2
UNA that contains wetlands Lot #3
Removes large amounts of forested land causing the disruption of an ecologically sensitive
area
Lot#4
In direct view and disruptive to historically significant cemetery Contains an area that may
exceed a 15% grade Also contains prime farmland
Lot #5
Also, in direct view and disruptive to Willow Glen Cemetery
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Contains prime farmland
Large forested areas being removed
Lot #6
Most disruptive lot to Willow Glen Cemetery Contains prime farmland Has a potion that
exceeds a 15% grade UNA/wetlands that will be affected Large area of forested land will be
removed
In addition, as some one who has either worked on or who is familiar with many of our
Town Plans, this project also directly contradicts the following Town Plans:
1. Comprehensive Plan
2. Ag Protection Plan
3. Open Space Plan
4. Natural Resources Conservation Plan
The Town of Dryden also has a very specific Sub-Division law that this board is well ac-
quainted with, so you are quite aware of all the violations and contradictions, this project
presents to those laws.
Please reject the planned Large-Scale Solar facility being planned for 2150 Dryden Rd, by
Distributed Sun.
Thank you,
Joseph Osmeloski 2180 Dryden Rd.
Freeville NY, 13068
Dryden Planning Board
March 23, 2017
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Districts, subject to the requirements set forth in this section, including site plan approval.
Applications for the installation of a Ground-Mounted Large-Scale Solar Energy System shall
be reviewed by the Zoning Officer and referred, with comments, to the Town Planning Board
for its review and recommendation, and to the Town Board for its review and action, which
can include approval, approval on conditions, or denial.
a. Ground-Mounted Large-Scale Solar Energy Systems that produce electricity or thermal
energy primarily for active farming or agricultural uses, where the generation is less than
one hundred and ten percent (110%) of the farm use, shall be exempt from the require-
ment to obtain a Special Use Permit or a site plan.
2. Ground-Mounted Large-Scale Solar Energy Systems shall not be located in the follow-
ing areas unless otherwise approved by the Town Board in conjunction with the Special
Use Permit approval process as provided in this section:
a. Prime farmland soils as identified by the USDA-NRCS or alternative available resource.
b. Areas of potential environmental sensitivity, including Unique Natural Areas, flood
plains, historic sites, airports, state-owned lands, conservation easements, trails, park-
land, prime soils, and wetlands as identified by Tompkins County Planning Depart-
ment mapping services, the New York State Department of Environmental Conserva-
tion, or the United States Army Corps of Engineers.
c. On slopes of greater than fifteen percent (15%), unless the Solar Energy Applicant can
demonstrate through engineering studies and to the satisfaction of the Town Engineer that
the proposed development will cause no adverse environmental impact that will not be sat-
isfactorily mitigated.
3. No Special Use Permit or renewal thereof or amendment of a current Special Use Per-
mit relating to a Ground-Mounted Large-Scale Solar Energy System shall be granted
by the Town Board unless the Solar Energy Applicant demonstrates that such Ground-
Mounted Large-Scale Solar Energy System:
a. Conforms with all federal and state laws and all applicable rules and regulations promul-
gated by any federal or state agencies having jurisdiction.
b. Is designed and constructed in a manner which minimizes visual impact to the extent prac-
tical.
c. Complies with all other requirements of the Town of Dryden Zoning Law and applicable
Commercial Design Guidelines unless expressly superseded herein.
d. Conforms with all adopted plans of the Town of Dryden.
e. Complies with a fifty-foot (50) front yard, rear yard, and side yard setback.
f. Does not exceed twenty (20) feet in height.
g. Has a solar collector surface area (as measured in the horizontal plane) that, when com-
bined with the coverage of other structures on the lot, does not exceed twice the maximum
lot coverage as permitted in the underlying zoning district, unless the Town
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; s. Does the proposed action include construction or modification of a solid waste management facility? Q Yes 0
No
f If Yes:
i. Type of management or handling of waste proposed for the site (e.g., recycling or transfer station, composting, landfill, or
other disposal activities): __ __ _ _ _______ ____ ________________________ _____________ _ __ _____________
ii. Anticipated rate of disposal/processing:
•Tons/month, if transfer or other non-combustion/thermal treatment, or
•Tons/hour, if combustion or thermal treatment
iii. If landfill, anticipated site life: ______________________ __ _______ years
t. Will proposed action at the site involve the commercial generation, treatment, storage, or disposal of hazardous 0Yes0No waste?
If Yes:
i. Name(s) of all hazardous wastes or constituents to be generated, handled or managed at facility: _______________
ii. Generally describe processes or activities involving hazardous wastes or constituents:
iii. Specify amount to be handled or generated tons/month
;v. Describe any proposals for on-site minimization, recycling or reuse of hazardous constituents:
v. Will any hazardous wastes be disposed at an existing offsite hazardous waste facility'? " DYesCJNo
If Yes: provide name and location of facility: ___ _______________________________________
If No: describe proposed management of any hazardous wastes which will not be sent to a hazardous waste facility:
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E. Site and Setting of Proposed Action
E.l. Land uses on and surrounding the project site
a. Existing land uses.
i. Check all uses that occur on, adjoining and near the project site.
Q Urban □ Industrial 0 Commercial 0 Residential (suburban) 0 Rural (non-farm)
0 Forest 0 Agriculture d Aquatic 0 Other (specify): Cemetery
ii. If mix of uses, generally describe:
b. Land uses and covertypes on the project site.
Land use or
Covertype
Current
Acreage
Acreage After Project
Completion Change (Acres +/-)
• Roads, buildings, and other paved or impervious sur-
faces 2.4 2.4 0
• Forested 20 5 -15
• Meadows, grasslands or brushlands (non- agricultural,
including abandoned agricultural) 85 132 +47
• Agricultural
(includes active orchards, field, greenhouse etc.) 37 5 -32
• Surface water features
(lakes, ponds, streams, rivers, etc.) 3 3 0
• Wetlands (freshwater or tidal) 10 10 0
• Non-vegetated (bare rock, earth or fill) 0 0 0
• Other
Describe: