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Town of Dryden
Planning Board
June 22, 2017
Members Present: Marty Moseley (Chair), David Weinstein, Joe Wilson, Tom Hatfield, Craig Anderson,
John Keifer, Hilary Lambert (alternate)
Excused: Marty Hatch
Liaisons Present: Deborah Cipolla-Dennis, Town Board
The meeting was called to order 7:00 p.m. M Moseley noted that due to the absence of Marty
Hatch, Hilary Lambert would be a voting member of the board tonight.
PUBLIC COMMENT
Sarah Osmeloski said there is yet another revised solar application from Distributed Sun. As the
applications keep piling up the carbon footprint of this project gets bigger and bigger. If the developers
had had the foresight to put more time and effort into proper site selection, we would be happily
planting solar panels now instead of reviewing yet again another proposal. The problem with this
whole project is location. These are good projects and deserve to be installed, but they are not in the
proper location. In their current locations they would be acceptable if their size was reduced so they
could fit without become intrusive. The problem with our solar law is that it’s a vague statement of 2
MW per parcel with no definition of parcel size. As it is written, she could put 2 MW of panels on her six
acres of property by stacking them up in tiers and it would be fine. Soon the Planning Board will have to
determine what size the subdivisions of this property must be in order to accommodate 2 MW of
panels. It appears to her by the number of arrays mapped out in the application that Distributed Sun is
attempting to stuff a size 11 foot into a size 9 shoe. In prior projects that have come before the Planning
Board you have had no qualms in telling developers to reduce the number of units they are proposing in
a project. In fact lately a number of housing projects in Varna come to mind as perfect examples; too
many units for the amount of land and space. When it is time to make a decision on the proposed
subdivision of the solar project, she requests that the board tell Distributed Sun to reduce the number of
panels per subdivision or increase the size of the subdivision. Keep in mind that 2 MW worth of panels
can be stuffed onto a small parcel and create an eyesore. Or the same number of panels can be placed
on a larger parcel and be much less intrusive on our landscape and community. In her opinion size and
density does matter when comes to keeping Dryden beautiful.
Joe Osmeloski said he abhors the fact that some people try to make the solar debate a
competition. Some people talk about a score. It’s not about that. It’s about people expressing their
views about how they feel about these projects. He also abhors statements that are agenda driven and
patently false. We all have agendas, but back up that agenda with facts. But he does want to address
the issue of score. Marty Hatch of the Planning Board made a statement that he had gone on the
website and read either the comments made at Neptune or the all the letters received by the town. J
Osmeloski analyzed both, every single comment and letter. He has two results. Another pet peeve of
his is out-of-towners. Out-of-towners will come to our meetings and speak, but really they don’t have a
stake in this. He doesn’t go to other municipalities and tell them what to do. But he did include them in
his analysis. At Neptune when the out-of-towners were not included it was 52.6% in favor of the solar
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projects and 47.4% against. When out-of-towners were included it was 55% against and 44% for. If M
Hatch was referring to the letters to the town his numbers were correct – 60%/40%. What he got wrong
was that he had it backwards. If you don’t include the out-of-towners, it was 38.3% in favor and 61.7%
against. Out-of-towners included it was 38.8% in favor and 61.2% against. If M Hatch was talking about
the letters to the town, his statement was patently false. If he was talking about Neptune, he just
exaggerated. Either way, he was wrong. He doesn’t want it to be a competition. He just wants
everyone to express their views, but use facts.
With respect to facts, a member of the Planning Board that went to the Conservation Board
used patently false statements when referring to a moratorium resolution that you passed. Luckily, Tom
was able to remedy that and tell us what really went on with that resolution. We all have an agenda and
it might be agenda driven. Those things happen. But if you read his statement from the 5-18 Town
Board meeting he states “the Planning Board recommendation which many people have talked about is
not a valid recommendation. It will have to be rescinded at the next meeting because it was never
placed on the agenda for that meeting which was a special meeting specifically put together for one
item and that was review of SEQR.” That statement is patently false. This board has addressed that and
he knows that they came to the conclusion that that statement was patently false. For a person to be
making patently false statements to back his agenda is a very dangerous precedent.
J Osmeloski asked the Planning Board to ask that person to resign from the Planning Board. If
they are not willing to do that, he asks that this board go to the Town Board and address the issue of
him being removed from the Planning Board. This board has very, very important decisions coming up
concerning the solar projects. For a person that is now starting to show a pattern of not backing up
statements with facts is a very danger precedent. His recommendation is for that person to step down
and be replaced by Hilary Lambert on a permanent basis. He worked with H Lambert during the fracking
issue and no one is more professional. No one is more prepared or impartial when looking at the issues
than Hilary. Even during the fracking issue, she looked at both sides. Never was her impartiality better
displayed than when she took a stand and voted for the moratorium on this board. We know Hilary is
very much pro solar, pro renewables, but she put the town and people of Dryden first by voting for the
moratorium. His recommendation is that Hilary Lambert should be a permanent member and he would
be honored to come before this board monthly with Hilary Lambert as a permanent member.
Hilary Lambert stated that she had nothing to do with that statement.
D Weinstein said that was a personal attack on him and asked to respond. According to J
Osmeloski, D Weinstein said three things that were patently false.
First, D Weinstein said his feeling that he stated at the town board meeting that without the
solar moratorium being a specific agenda item, he felt it was incorrect to address it. The board decided
it was wrong, but there was no intention of misleading the board. He was very clear about his feelings
and why he felt that.
Two things J Osmeloski stated were patently false that he said: It is true in his report to the
Conservation Board he said that the moratorium would cover all solar projects, and he was wrong about
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that. He made a mistake and admitted it at that meeting, particularly after Tom corrected it, since our
moratorium only covers everything 2 MW and up. He very much disagrees with the characterization of
that; that it was patently false and he was trying to mislead the board. He made a mistake and it was
easily corrected.
The second thing was, he agrees he should have gone back to the resolution and used that
language. The language in the resolution says that the reason for the moratorium was to “determine if
the location of the current applicant’s facilities if approved would be placed in the town where it would
be most beneficial once all competing needs are accounted for.” Instead of using that phrase he used
“to investigate all alternative sites to try and identify one where no neighbor would find it offensive.”
He said he should have used the actual language, but doesn’t see where he is trying to mislead the
board.
He thinks this is a vendetta that is being raised against him which he can only imagine is an
agenda. He does not have an agenda. He wants to see the right project go into the right place. If he has
opinions about the validity of the current proposal moving forward, he is entitled to that opinion. He
thinks it is wrong to go after a board member. He has not tried to go after Mr Osmeloski even though
immediately after joining the Conservation Board he started pushing the anti-solar project agenda, but
that is his right. He’s a member of the board. If he feels strongly about that, that’s fine. D Weinstein is
really bothered by this allegation and thinks it has no place in the politics of our town where a lot of
people are trying to do as best as they can to figure out what is the right thing for the town. Nobody is
getting rich off this. We are just trying to do the best job we can and he thinks it is below J Osmeloski to
go after a board member like this.
M Moseley asked for approval of the May minutes. The May 3 minutes need to be edited and
resubmitted. J Wilson moved approval of the May 25, 2017, minutes, seconded by T Hatfield and
unanimously approved.
PUBLIC HEARING
CONSERVATION SUBDIVISION
BLUEBIRD SUBDIVISION - FINAL PLAT
RANDY & NANCY LUBERECKI
M Moseley explained the applicant wishes to subdivide a 57.74 acre parcel (tax parcel #49.-1-
30.2), 426-430 Lake Road, currently operating as a golf course. Seven residential building lots would be
created with open space preserved along Lake Road and Dryden Lake. The final plat has been
submitted.
J Wilson asked how long this plat has been available to the public and was told it was put on the
web last week. D Cipolla-Dennis said information on the website is difficult to find and noted the
agenda for tonight was not online.
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Carl Snyder, agent for the applicants, displayed the plat and explained there are six lots between
Lake Road the lake and a seventh lot across the road (currently a driving range). Applicants are going to
retain lot #7 and the others will be marketed for residential building. Based on last month’s meeting the
two small ponds were completely assigned to a lot instead of dividing them between lots. The one large
pond will be split between lots #3 and #4.
Rohn Brown, who owns land adjacent to the driving range and plans to build on that land, noted
that a proposed building site and drive is shown on the lots and asked if there were any restrictions. He
was told that no residence can be built in the conservation easement along the lake or along Lake Road.
A run-in shed would be allowed in the conservation easement along the road. Their mission has been to
protect the viewsheds for everyone. R Brown is concerned with his view of the lake. C Snyder said
there is a potential buyer for lots 1 and 2 and the plan is to build pretty much on the line. Maximum
building height is 35’ and because of the conservation easement along the road there would likely be
little impact on his view.
J Wilson asked about enforcement of the proposed covenants and was told property owners
would have to work that out.
The proposed protective covenants, easements and restrictions were reviewed. Run-in sheds
were discussed and “barn structures” were removed from the conservation easement area along the
road.
There was discussion regarding the process to amend the restrictive covenants and applicant
was told they would need to come back to the Planning Board because it would be an amendment to
the subdivision.
T Hatfield suggested that there be some sort of acknowledgement of the covenants required
any time the property changed ownership.
There was discussion about limiting the size of a run-in shed and the board decided that could
be no more than 10’ high and not exceed 800 square feet.
A covenant #14 will be added to the effect that: all grantors and grantees shall sign an
acknowledgement of receipt of a copy of the covenants as recorded which are known to them at date of
sale.
C Snyder asked what the process would be if they wanted to further massage the covenants. He
was told they would have to come back to the Planning Board. There was discussion about whether to
allow “home office” as a use in covenant #1 which reads: Lots shall be used only for residential,
recreational and agricultural purposes. The intent of the covenants is to be fairly restrictive. It was
noted that many people have a “home office” at which they work and that work does not increase
traffic or visits to their home. It is different than a home business. Home office is not defined in our
zoning. It was determined that it would be best to simply not include home office as a use in covenant
#1.
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The public hearing was closed at 7:45 p.m.
J Keifer said he greatly respects what the applicant has done and is pleased with the outcome. T
Hatfield agreed that it has been a good process.
RESOLUTION #19B - FINAL PLAT – BLUE BIRD SUBDIVISION, LAKE ROAD
J Kiefer offered the following resolution:
Whereas, the Planning Board has reviewed the final plat for a conservation subdivision known as
“Bluebird Subdivision” in the town (tax parcel #49.-1-30.2), and
Whereas, the Planning Board has found the project to be consistent with the Town of Dryden
subdivision guidelines, and
Whereas, Tompkins County Planning has provided a review pursuant to General Municipal Law
§239-l and §239-m; and
Whereas, this is an unlisted action for which the Planning Board on April 27, 2017, acting in
uncoordinated environmental review with respect to this project declared a negative declaration of
environmental significance, after having reviewed and accepted as adequate a Short Environmental
Assessment Form Part 1, submitted by the applicants, Parts 2 and 3, prepared by Town Planning staff,
and other application materials; and
Whereas, the Town of Dryden Planning Board and Planning Department have made
recommendations;
Therefore; be it resolved, the Dryden Planning Board approves the final plat design, and
authorizes the Planning Board Chair to sign the plat, with the Standard Conditions of Approval and the
following Protective Covenants, Easements and Restrictions:
Bluebird on Dryden Lake Subdivision
Lake Road Town of Dryden
Protective Covenants, Easements and Restrictions
1) Lots shall be used only for residential, recreational and agricultural purposes
2) No further subdivision of any lot shall be permitted
3) There shall be only one single family residence on each lot in the subdivision and if 2 or more lots are
combined into one larger lot there still shall be only one single family residence.
4) No singlewide or doublewide mobile home allowed
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5) The exterior finish of all buildings must be completed within 18 months after construction
commences
6) Grantor grants to each lot owner and each lot owner grants to all other lot owners easements for
utilities along Lake Road
7) All utilities for each lot must be constructed underground from Lake Road to the house site
8) Grantee understands that a storm water management plan has been completed for the total
subdivision. If any lot owner plans to disturb more area than shown on the proposed plan on their own
individual lot then they may be responsible for hiring an engineer to complete a storm water
management plan for their specific lot.
9) Grantee is responsible for obtaining any necessary State and local permits for building construction,
well and septic system.
10) Outdoor lighting should be kept to a minimum and where necessary directed toward the ground and
/ or away from neighboring properties with all being dark sky compliant.
11) The designated conservation easement shown on the survey maps along Lake Road is restricted
against any house construction. The area allows for agricultural purposes including fencing and run-in
sheds not to exceed 10 feet in height and 800 square feet in area.
12) The designated conservation easement shown on the survey map along the DEC owned Dryden Lake
property is restricted against any earth disturbance, construction of any building type and there shall be
no regular mowing within this area. The operation of any ATV or snowmobile is prohibited in this area.
Each lot owner grants to all other lot owners in the subdivision the right to cross each other’s lot (within
this conservation easement) for recreational purposes including walking, hiking, cross country skiing and
portage of a canoe or kayak to access Dryden Lake. The lot owners do not have lake rights for
construction of any dockage and no right to make any shoreline modifications per DEC regulations.
13) Where a common surveyed property line crosses an existing pond the adjoining lot owners shall
share the surface rights to the pond for recreational purposes including fishing, swimming and using a
canoe or kayak. There shall be no enlargement of any of the existing ponds.
14) All grantors and grantees must sign acknowledgement that covenants as recorded are known to
them at time of sale.
2nd T Hatfield – unanimously approved.
Rezoning of Route 38 north of Freeville – this is a charge from the Town Board to analyze and advance
recommendations. H Lambert has agreed to sit on the committee and M Moseley asked if any others
were willing to serve on the committee.
R Burger said he had contacted residents on Cricket Lane and invited them to come to tonight’s
meeting. None were present. C Anderson said he understood that the residents wanted to change their
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zoning to neighborhood residential and there may things in that zoning designation that they aren’t
aware of. For example, set backs would be different. There should be input from the neighborhood.
There is also a property owner near there who wants their lot zoned for commercial use. It was
pointed out that there could be an emerging node at the intersection of Route 38 and Peruville Road to
be considered. M Moseley said the committee would look at both requests. They could meet with the
neighbors and have a discussion. The product from the committee would be a recommendation
whether the parcels should be rezoned, individually or globally.
The committee will consist of Hilary Lambert, Craig Anderson, Deborah Cipolla-Dennis and David
Weinstein. There may be representatives from the other boards who are interested in serving on this
committee.
Solar Update – J Wilson said this has been a complex process. He hopes that the update includes
specifically what actions the Planning Board is to take in what order and on what timeline and what
procedures apply in each action the Board needs to take. This process has involved many moving parts
and the Board needs a clear way forward. It needs to be as specific as it can be in terms of time, actions,
and procedures.
R Burger announced we have a revised application from Distributed Sun and it is being reviewed
by TG Miller. The first action item is to get to a SEQR evaluation. TG Miller had a punch list of necessary
items to get to a complete application. The Army Corps letters have been received and we are down to
one or two items where TG Miller is asking for clarification. If Distributed Sun can provide that (answers
to questions) within a few days TG miller will complete their analysis. Once that is complete we can set
up time for continuing the public hearing. The date contemplated is sometime in July and the town has
promised ten days notice for this public hearing. July 13 has been discussed as a possible date for
taking up the SEQR.
There will be a continuation and completion of the public hearing followed by a determination
of significance. After a negative declaration of significance by the Town Board the Planning Board can
take up its actions which include review of the application and making recommendations to the Town
Board regarding the special use permit application. Once SEQR is done the Planning Board will also take
up the subdivision (three-step process) of 2150 Dryden Road. Those two items for the Planning Board
could perhaps happen simultaneously. There will be public hearings – for preliminary and final
subdivision and for special use permit.
M Moseley said he would like to wait and see what the Town Board does. At its next meeting
the Planning Board will discuss what avenue they would like to see first and move forward so everyone
is clear and understanding of the process.
Legal Counsel - There was discussion about whether the Planning Board should have its own legal
counsel. Board members agreed that having legal counsel available is important on an as needed basis
and there is no objection that it comes from the town’s attorney(s). D Cipolla-Dennis said she will talk
with the Town Supervisor about arranging to have legal counsel for the Planning Board when necessary.
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Planning Board Liaison Responsibilities – (M Moseley noted that C Anderson requested this be on the
agenda and he had neglected to do so.) J Wilson stated several things should be taken up: the liason
responsibilities of a Planning Board member, timing of agendas, and the timing of submissions to the
board by developers. Sometimes members receive information the day of the meeting and he was
grateful that the last submission was noticed for July meeting. All of these things fit together for a
worthwhile discussion.
C Anderson – distributed information on Planning Board responsibilities. There are minutes
from August 2014 when Mahlon Perkins met with the board about its responsibilities together with the
thirteen items that are under the Planning Board’s site plan review purview. The Planning Board went
through this a few years ago when they got a bit off track and were looking at asbestos and lead
abatement and that is not the board’s responsibility. He gets frustrated when the board gets outside its
box. We are seeing it now when we are talking about heat pumps in site plan review. If the board
wants that, it could be changed, but at the time it is not there. When you seem to dangle an approval
over a developer’s head, it’s a fine line to walk. He asked that members review the information. If the
board wants to create incentivized zoning (we have it in Varna a little bit) we could try to broaden it
across the town.
M Moseley asked that members review the information for discussion at the next meeting.
C Anderson said we have two different boards doing site plan review and are getting two
different results off the same list. That can’t continue. One board or the other should do them all. For
example, Incodema has no landscaping and the argon tank is not where it was supposed to be and is
vertical instead of horizontal. There are orange doors on a storage building. It is too close to the street.
There are no sidewalks on the Freeville Road storage building. Now there are blue roofs and blue doors
on the Storage Squad building which are really natural colors. It seems the Town Board is following a
different path and one day a developer will be pointing out these discrepancies. Green Scene was made
to not have metal on the front of their building and the property is 200’ off the street. He understands
that this would mean one more trip for an applicant, but perhaps it would help with continuity. It is a
problem and the process and result should be identical with each board.
D Cipolla-Dennis said she is confused about how rigid the design guidelines are. The Town
Board is looking to the Planning Dept to do that. Maybe the Planning Dept isn’t getting enough
information. Perhaps the design guidelines should be reviewed to see if they are too vague and there is
too much room for interpretation.
Sarah Osmeloski said her understanding is that members of the Planning Board take specific
training and she is not aware of Town Board having the same training. The Planning Board is trained to
do it and the Town Board isn’t in general. She would feel better if people trained were doing it.
It was pointed out that while Planning Board members are required to complete a specified
number of training hours per year, each member chooses the trainings he/she attends and so while one
member may have received training in a specific area, others may not have. There are no training
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requirements for Town Board members. There was discussion about joint trainings or a workshop
meeting with Town Board members and improving the lines of communication. Each board uses the
same list in considering its approval. The Planning Board is more constrained than a political board.
Does it make sense for one board to deal with all the applications? It is important for community
members as well as developers to see consistency. M Moseley asked members to consider the situation
and bring ideas on ways to improve it to the next meeting.
Additions to agenda –
Rail trail resolution – J Kiefer said last fall the Rail Trail Task Force worked on a grant application
that was not successful. This board’s resolution of support was included in that application. Now the
task force is applying for another grant and Bob Beck has asked for a reaffirmation of support.
Resolution # 20 (2017) – Reaffirming Resolution #28 of 2016
D Weinstein offered the following resolution and asked for its adoption:
RESOLVED, that this Resolution #28 of 2016 (set out below in its entirety) is hereby reaffirmed
by the Town of Dryden Planning Board.
Town of Dryden
Planning Board
Adopted September 22, 2016
Reaffirmed June 22, 2017
Resolution #28 (2016) Acknowledging the support of the Town of Dryden Planning Board for the
creation of a mixed use trail along the abandoned rail corridor connecting the Jim Schug Trail in the
Village of Dryden through the Village of Freeville and the hamlets of Etna and Varna to the East Ithaca
Recreation Way at the Ithaca Town line, herein referred to as the Dryden Rail Trail.
WHEREAS: the Dryden Planning Board recognizes the importance of preserving the Town’s natural resources and
rural character, and providing residents with more opportunities to observe and enjoy the natural beauty the Town
offers,
WHEREAS, the Dryden Planning Board recognizes the importance of developing mixed use recreational trails, as
resources vital to improving the Town’s economic base, tourism, property values, public health and fitness, and
quality of life for Town residents,
WHEREAS, the Dryden Planning Board encourages the use of non-motorized modes of transportation and
recognizes the significant environmental and economic benefits of reducing automobile use,
WHEREAS, the Town of Dryden Comprehensive Plan cites the creation of the Dryden Rail Trail as an im portant
transportation and recreational initiative,
WHEREAS, the Town’s 4.2-mile Jim Schug Trail is currently established and popular, and runs south on the
abandoned rail bed from the Village of Dryden, passing by Dryden Lake, to the Harford town line,
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WHEREAS, the Lehigh Valley Railroad abandoned the East Ithaca to Freeville and Cortland rail beds and the Harford
to Dryden, Freeville and Groton rail beds by 1977, and the abandoned rail beds are currently owned by a variety of
private and public entities,
WHEREAS, the Town Board established a Rail Trail Task Force to take deliberate steps to develop the Dryden Rail
Trail including acquiring easements, securing funding and moving the project through planning, design and
construction,
THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED THAT the Dryden Planning Board supports and endorses the work of the Rail Trail Task
Force and the creation of the Dryden Rail Trail.
2nd J Kiefer – All in favor
802 Dryden Road – An informal presentation was had at the last meeting. There is an option for
the Planning Board to request a full Environmental Assessment Form (EAF) versus a short EAF. M
Moseley said his thought is that the development will increase density in the area. It is going to be
different than if it was a 1, 2 or 3 family-home. The board agrees a full EAF would be appropriate for this
type of development. This project will be on the July agenda. J Keifer asked for a code analysis on the
project; a statement that the process is consistent with the zoning laws. R Burger said it is in there.
Charges from Town Board – M Moseley said it was brought to his attention at the last board
meeting there are various items that the Planning Board has not gotten back to: utility placement and
looking into the special use permits (which C Anderson covered earlier). He asked J Wilson to send the
utility information again and he will ask the Town Board prioritize these items. J Wilson noted part of
the discussion was whether we had too many SUPs and he sent a memo about that also.
Rules and regulations discussion – M Moseley said his opinion is that if we didn’t have an
agenda that allows for additional items it could be detrimental. The board wouldn’t have been able to
have a couple of the discussions it did tonight. It seems beneficial to be able to add agenda items and it
has been practice to allow that. Many municipalities use all sorts of rules and regulations. Some find it
beneficial and others don’t.
D Weinstein said he agrees in general. There is value in flexibility. There are two categories that
might need to be treated as special cases. One is when an issue is “big” and sometimes you can easily
identify that, and the public should be notified. The second issue is special meetings and it was his
impression that when that is done we needed to identify exactly what work is going to be done at the
meeting and nothing but that. It is easier to limit the scope at a special meeting.
Timeliness of agenda –M Moseley said when first was on the board the agenda might arrive the
day before. He is comfortable with sending it the weekend before the meeting. The Planning Dept
takes care of legal notices and getting it on the website. It was noted that the agenda should also be
placed on the web.
J Wilson asked that the board collectively think about items coming up and whether something
fits the big category. He suggested that the board try to avoid taking action on something big unless it is
on the agenda even though there is no requirement that it be adhered to. He agrees that if the board is
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going to be flexible and it should go both ways. With respect to timing, he feels more comfortable when
he has time to review matters and agrees sending it out the weekend before is reasonable.
Liaison responsibilities – M Moseley requested that if we have liaisons at other board meetings
that they act as liaisons. If the board asks questions, answer appropriately. If they want you to be quiet,
do so and observe. The liaison is a visitor to the board.
M Moseley said if any member has a problem with this board that they come to this board first
and have a discussion before going to another board (out of respect for the entire Planning Board).
C Anderson noted that serving as liaison to another board is a good learning experience.
M Moseley thanked the liaisons for serving as such. It is additional time spent that is not
required. Appointment to liaison is done by the board chair. D Weinstein said the Conservation Board
asks its liaisons for a written report. It helps with information flow and this board could benefit from it.
T Hatfield cautioned that we don’t want to overburden the liaisons.
M Moseley asked R Burger to make sure everything being considered is on the website page.
There being no further business, on motion made, seconded and unanimously carried, the
meeting was adjourned at 9:08 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Bambi L. Avery
Town Clerk