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July 24, 2014
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Town of Dryden
Planning Board
July 24, 2014
Members present: Joe Laquatra (Chair), Tom Hatfield, David Weinstein, John Kiefer,
Marty Hatch, and Craig Anderson. Heather Maniscalco was excused.
Guests: Brian Payne (Applicant), Gregg Holman (Property owner), and Craig Schutt
(Conservation Board)
Town Hall Staff: Jane Nicholson (Planning Director) and David Sprout (Code
Enforcement Officer)
Meeting was opened at 7PM by Chairman Laquatra.
1. Review and approval of minutes from June 26th: This discussion was postponed
until the end of the meeting.
2. Conservation Board: M. Hatch
3. Agriculture Advisory Committee: J. Kiefer
J. Kiefer reminded everyone of the Ag meeting/ Ag and Markets presentation on
August 13th.
4. Sketch Plan Review:
Brian Payne has submitted a sketch plan for a landscape supply business at 192 2
Dryden Road. The owner of the land is Gregg Holman and he is agreeable to the
proposed plan.
D. Weinstein asked for clarification regarding the zoning of the site. One of the maps
on the Dryden website shows 1922 Dryden Road is in a conservation zone. The
new/updated map shows it as a mixed use/commercial zone. J. Nicholson said she
would look at the maps and get them updated.
The Board reviewed the sketch drawing. Mr. Payne explained what various objects in
the drawing were and what their purpose was.
J. Laquatra asked how large the sign will be. The sign will be 4x10 maximum and
around 6 feet tall.
C. Anderson asked if there was any vision for the adjacent property. The owner and
applicant indicated that there are no future plans except that the owner lives in the
adjacent house. C. Anderson explained that he was asking due to the preference for
shared driveways. The land owner has his own separate driveway on the south side of
his house.
T. Hatfield asked if the lot was the size that they will want it in the future, will it meet
their needs in the future? Mr. Payne believes it will be sufficient for their needs for
many years. It is approximately 8 acres. The 80 X100 building will house 1/3 office,
1/3 dry storage and 1/3 shop for machinery, etc.
D. Weinstein asked about whether they will do any stone cutting on site? Mr. Payne
said that all of the cutting, cutting, and finishing will be off site as a service offered
through a third vendor.
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T. Hatfield asked about the material storage areas, whether they were identified with
lines on the ground or were they going to build bins. Mr. Payne said they will build
bins either with panel type walls or 2x4 cement blocks which will allow them to be
moved around.
D. Weinstein asked if any of it was going to be paved. Mr. Payne wants the minimal
amount of space paved, mainly for handicap accommodations. He wants to keep the
amount paved within the parameters provided in zoning that do not require a SWPPP.
J. Kiefer asked how many parking spaces the business will actually need. Mr. Payne
said the sketch is showing 52 spaces but since they are not the type of business that
requires long term parking. He believes 25 parking spaces will be more than sufficient
for day to day business.
C. Anderson asked which parking spaces Mr. Payne would put in “reserve”. The
applicant suggested the area closest to the road, the area farthest from the building. It
will be part of the display until they need it. Mr. Payne added that they intend to have
a small conference room in a small portion of the building for continuing education,
training, etc.
D. Weinstein commented that this will be a totally new business in the area. Mr.
Payne agreed and hopes that his business can improve peoples’ quality of life and the
environment.
D. Weinstein asked if people will be able to load up their trucks and cart supplies
away or will the business be doing deliveries. Mr. Payne said it will be both. They will
offer delivery but people can simply stop by and pick up for themselves. They hope to
offer the entire range from high quality, high price items to good quality but less
expensive options.
D. Weinstein asked about the amount of truck traffic doing deliveries. Mr. Payne
believes that they will average 1 truck per day or less in terms of product coming in.
D. Weinstein asked if the driveway will be wide enough able to handle a truck pulling
in at the same time a car is leaving. The driveway on the sketch shows a 50 foot wide
opening.
J. Kiefer asked about landscape buffers as per the zoning. The applicant showed the
Board the landscaping along the line between the land owner’s home and the parking
area and the trees that will be planted along the road. They want it to resemble the
landscaping similar to a private home as the customers pull in.
D. Weinstein verified the lighting will be pointed down, not shine any neighbors’
property and not up in the sky. Mr. Payne said the lighting will be minimal, just
enough to provide security.
D. Weinstein further verified the amount of area that will be disturbed land, anything
over 5 acres of disturbed land will require a SWPPP. J. Nicholson said the Planning
Department has calculated the amount disturbed and it will be under an acre.
D. Weinstein then reviewed the amount of water used per day. Mr. Payne estimates
they will use an average of 100 gallons a day. Most of the water usage will be watering
plants. Some greywater will be generated and they will have a septic tank.
J. Nicholson noted that the parking requirements are 5 spaces per 1000 square feet
for retail. The Planning Board can choose to eliminate up to 50% of the required. The
applicant would still need to maintain a buffer strip in case they needed that space for
parking in the future.
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M. Hatch offered the following resolution:
Whereas, the applicant has demonstrated 25 parking spaces will be sufficient for daily
use; and
Whereas, the Planning Board has the right to reduce the required parking spaces by
50%;
Therefore, the Planning Board recommends permitting the applicant to create a
minimum of 25 parking places.
The motion was seconded by D. Weinstein and was unanimously approved.
D. Weinstein noted that the site is classified as prime agricultural land and although it
is a relatively small site, he still wanted to ensure they didn’t pass any
recommendations that will be detrimental to the farming community. J. Nicholson
responded that as the site is in an Ag district, the applicant had to fill out an
agricultural data statement. The Planning Department will send a letter of notification
of the site plan review to the farmers adjacent to or within 500 feet of the site. They
can then respond either verbally or in writing. Ag and Markets law does not apply in
this case because it is not an active farm that has been assessed as agriculture.
M. Hatch offered the following resolution:
Whereas, Brian Payne, Grassmasters Landscape Supply Business, has presented a
clear development proposal that meets the requirements of a sketch plan review; and
Whereas, the Planning Board finds the project to be generally consistent with the
zoning, design and comprehensive plan guidelines; and
Whereas, the Town of Dryden Planning Board and Planning Department have made
suggestions and recommendations for consideration by the applicant before submission
of the project for full site plan review to the Town of Dryden Planning Board;
Therefore, be it resolved that the Town of Dryden Planning Board approves the sketch
plan as presented on July 24, 2014 and requires a full site plan review without a public
hearing.
D. Weinstein seconded the motion which was unanimously approved.
Minutes from June 26th:
M. Hatch recommended that the following conversation from the October Conservation
Board meeting regarding the incorporation of the CEAs into the Open Space Plan be
added to the minutes to support C. Anderson’s concerns about mixed signals to and
between the volunteer boards and the Town Board.
MAS,
"having the proposal on the table, having the map of at least what this Board is recommending as CEA's
is an invaluable tool and thank heavens we have that until such time we're able to move ahead with
them."
CS,
" Another approach is to incorporate them into the open space plan."
MAS
"Absolutely, Absolutely."
CS,
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"It's not a dead issue, it's alive and not kicking."
MAS,
"and I'm not planning on letting it die."
J. Kiefer moved to approve the minutes with the above addition. The minutes were
unanimously approved. D. Weinstein abstained due to his excused absence in June.
C. Anderson reminded the Board that they are invited to the Ag Committee
meeting/educational session with Bob Somers from Ag and Markets at the Dryden
Fire Hall.
M. Hatch asked if this was going to be an open meeting and what the role of the
Planning Board was. J. Laquatra explained that it is an informational meeting to get a
better understanding of Ag and Markets Laws.
D. Weinstein verified that it is not regarding the Open Space Plan.
The meeting is open to the public and Bob Somers will be available for questions.
D. Weinstein asked if this was an opportunity to ask about the Town’s zoning law
being in line with Ag and Markets law.
J. Nicholson said that those questions can certainly be asked but reminded the Board
that the Ag Committee will be getting the Ag Protection grant to help clear u p that
issue.
The Board discussed other opportunities for educational points. TC3 might not have
any sessions this year due to construction on campus. J. Laquatra has a presentation
on Green Building but he hasn’t had an opportunity to present it yet. C. Anderson
suggested that they could earn more point by inviting Atty. Perkins to discuss the role
of the Planning Board and the ZBA in regard to local laws.
C. Anderson said that the village of Freeville Planning Board can earn credits by
attending other Planning Board meetings. He also reminded the Board that he had
suggested having a liaison from/ to the villages’ Planning Boards.
Conservation Board Liaison: M. Hatch said the Conservation Board has not met
since the last Planning Board meeting.
Due to the Labor Day holiday that would follow the next meeting on the 28th, the
Board members agreed to meet on the 20th of August.
J. Laquatra shared that he represents the Town of Dryden on the County-wide
committee to create an energy ratings system. The way the grant was written would
make this mandatory that people would get at the point of sale. It will ruffle feathers if
that is the way it stays but they are working on getting approval from NYSERDA to
make participation voluntary. The full committee has not been pulled together because
they are still working on the request for qualifications to get a contractor in place.
There being no further business, the meeting was adjourned at 8:15PM.
Respectfully Submitted,
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Erin A. Bieber
Deputy Town Clerk