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Dryden Conservation Board
April 24, 2018
Members Present: Peter Davies (chair), Steve Bissen, Bob Beck, Timothy
Woods, Jeanne Grace, Craig Schutt, Gian Dodici, Mike Richmond, and (at 8:35)
Nancy Munkenbeck
Liaisons: Kathrin Servoss (Town Board)
The meeting was called to order at 7:05 PM.
Review and approval of minutes dated January 30, 2018 and February 27,
2018.
In the January minutes two names were misspelled and the wording needed to
be changed in one sentence. In the February minutes an incorrect word was
transcribed from the tape; should have been impetus, and a first name was in-
correctly noted.
C. Schutt made a motion to approve the January and February minutes as cor-
rected and B. Beck seconded the motion. The minutes were unanimously ap-
proved.
Citizens’ Privilege:
No one in attendance
Additions to the agenda:
Reports received:
1. Agriculture Report
2. EMC Report
P. Davies stated that he was intrigued by the claim in the EMC Report that
there was a possible connection between the use of Roundup (glyphosate) and
Algal Blooms. After researching it he was unable to find any scientific evidence
supporting this claim. He said it turns out that it’s not the phosphorus in the
glyphosate, but rather the glyphosate causes the release from soils. He is going
to do additional research on this and e-mail the scientist/Professor of Chemis-
try and find out exactly what he has uncovered. M. Richmond said that years
ago they had a major research effort aimed at that (glyphosate) when purple
loosestrife began to show up everywhere. They looked into how to control this
with herbicides, and in looking into it, they found it was very effective at killing
things and the only herbicide safe to use around/in water. There was at that
time an argument about whether glyphosate deposited phosphorus. P. Davies
asked if it deposits or releases phosphorus. M. Richmond said either one;
they’d tried to find out what might be wrong with glyphosate and using it
around water. He said they were never able to learn anything from the
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company or from literature available on the use of glyphosate.
M. Richmond asked if anyone attended the Rebecca Schneider presentation on
Ditch Management. Many had attended; they felt that was a very serious issue
she discussed. With current practices of spreading cow manure on the fields,
then when it rains it leaches into the drainage system, then into the streams
and then into the lake. Years ago, after spreading manure they used to till the
land soon after spreading, but that’s no longer the case with today’s large
farms. *C. Schutt said that large farms have to have a permit and are highly
regulated; they have to till the soil within forty-eight hours of spreading ma-
nure. Ditch management is very important not only to help prevent flooding
and erosion, but also helps to keep our water supply free of pollution. M.
Richmond stated that if our county was a human, it would be on dialysis be-
cause we’re not properly disposing our waste.
*This information was noted by C. Schutt as a qualification to what was noted
in these minutes at the May 29, 2018 meeting.
New Business:
1. P. Davies reported that the Town Board supported the conservation ease-
ment on the Prince Farm, aka the Brotherton Farm. Additionally, the Town
Board came up with the $10,000.00 to help facilitate the establishment and
stewardship of this easement.
2. P. Davies reported that the Town Board requested that the Conservation
Board in conjunction with the Agriculture Committee consider passing a reso-
lution for a special fund to be set up for establishing a conservation easement
fund for future conservation easements that may come up. The Town Board
said they don’t know where to get this money; there should be a special fund
for it. He had prepared a draft resolution for everyone to look over. K. Servoss
said that what the Town Board requested was that the Conservation Board and
the Agriculture Committee come up with a fund and a way to get money in the
fund, and a plan to use the money. They discussed the issue of how to get
money for this. P. Davies suggested doing this in two steps; first getting the
Agriculture Advisory Committee on board with the resolution to establish a
fund to be used for facilitating conservation easements. He asked C. Schutt to
take the resolution to the Ag Committee for their input. The next step would be
to research how to get the funding. K. Servoss suggested doing some research
on the different types of funds that can be created and recommend in the reso-
lution the type of fund to be created because there is the reserve fund, the cap-
ital planning fund, and other different types of funds. She also suggested a
change in the last line of the draft resolution P. Davies prepared. The last line
reads “easements on land deemed desirable for preservation within the Town of
Dryden” and she suggested inserting after desirable “and/or donated”. She
said some lands may not be deemed as “desirable” but the owners are going to
donate their land for conservation. M. Richmond asked her if she means the
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land may not be desirable for agriculture, but still might be desirable to have it
conserved and she said “right”. P. Davies said that it’s not all encompassing; it
depends on somebody in the Town evaluating this and deciding if the piece of
land would be desirable to have and not accepting any piece of land. He also
said this would only apply to land of big enough size; someone wanting to do-
nate half an acre and wanting money for doing that would not be considered.
He said “deemed desirable” means some evaluation of the proposal is going to
be done as it was for the Prince Farm. The Finger Lakes Land Trust analyzed
it, produced maps, and described it.
T. Woods said that he found something on line from the Dept. of Agriculture,
the ACEP program, which is the Agricultural Conservation Easement Program
that has a filing deadline to apply (prior landlords, American Indian tribes and
other eligible entities) by February of each year for the funding to fund the con-
servation easements focusing on restoring and protecting wetlands, as well as
conserving productive agricultural lands and grasslands. P. Davies asked if
that’s a grant program, and T. Woods said yes, through the Federal Govern-
ment. It was stated that there are rules associated with that grant program
and it wouldn’t apply in some situations. T. Woods said he was talking about
the big parcel they’re currently talking about, not little pieces that may come
up later. C. Schutt said that there was a CB document on methods and selec-
tion criteria for land preservation and acquisition: Methods and Selection Crite-
ria for Land Protection and Acquisition. 30 December 2014:
http://dryden.ny.us/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/Methods-Criteria-for-
Land-Protection-12-30-14.pdf. M. Richmond spoke about the content of the
document. It was decided that this document should be referenced in the reso-
lution. M. Richmond said if you wanted to put a cap on it, on page 31 of the
CB document there is a section on Natural Resources Conservation Plan that
talks about view sheds and natural areas, etc. He read aloud the last para-
graph in that section and suggested adding a line stating the following: and
recognize that there may be areas suitable for development by the town or the
village and there may be areas that are highly qualified for agricultural contin-
ual use. P. Davies said this section should be referenced in the resolution. He
said we need to find sources for the income, but that’s additional information.
Initially a resolution needs to be passed basically saying let’s do what we can to
set up a fund that could be used in the future. T. Woods said there are two lo-
cal service centers that service the ACEP program, one in Ithaca and one in
Cortland. He said he’d go visit them and see what they have to say. J. Grace
asked K. Servoss where they can find out what the different types of funds are.
K. Servoss said they could ask J. Case, our bookkeeper, and also the Office of
the State Comptroller. J. Grace is going to research that issue and report back
her findings.
B. Beck made a motion to pass the following resolution proposed by P. Davies:
RESOLUTION # 3 for 2018 FROM THE CONSERVATION BOARD TO THE TOWN
BOARD RECOMMENDING THE ESTABLISHMENT OF A FUND TO BE USED FOR THE
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PURPOSE OF FACILITATING CONSERVATION EASEMENTS ON SUBSTANTIAL
LANDS WITHIN THE TOWN OF DRYDEN.
Whereas the preservation of farmland, natural areas and open space is encouraged in the Dryden
Comprehensive Plan, in the Natural Resources Conservation Plan and in the Town of Dryden
Agriculture & Farmland Protection Plan,
Whereas there is increasing commercial and housing development in parts of the Town of Dry-
den,
Whereas conservation easements will foster the preservation of natural areas, and the continued
agricultural use of farmland, protecting said areas from development in perpetuity,
Whereas such preservation will be of benefit to the current and future citizens of the Town of
Dryden,
Therefore,
The Town of Dryden Conservation Board recommends that the Dryden Town Board estab-
lish a fund devoted to expenses related to contributions towards the cost of obtaining such
conservation easements on land deemed desirable for preservation* within the Town of
Dryden.
* Methods and Selection Criteria for Land Protection and Acquisition. 30 December 2014:
http://dryden.ny.us/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/Methods-Criteria-for-Land-Protection-12-30-
14.pdf
The motion was seconded by S. Bissen and passed unanimously.
M. Richmond spoke about a piece of property (102 acres) that just last week-
end while helping out a neighbor found out that the property might possibly
become available for this program. He will speak to the individual(s) when it’s
appropriate to do so (after the plan is in place).
C. Schutt brought up the question about the Natural Resources Conservation
Plan, now that it’s been produced, what should be done to make sure it’s uti-
lized. He said early on when they were talking about doing this, the Planner’s
at that time, had a vision that this plan, the Ag plan would be all encompassing
with the Comprehensive Plan. He proposed that they ask the Town Board to
add the Natural Resources Conservation Plan as an appendix to the Compre-
hensive Plan or at least reference it so that people are aware that the document
exists. It was stated that the latest Comprehensive Plan was done in 2005, so
for the time being if the Natural Resources and Ag Plans were referenced in the
2005 Comprehensive Plan that would make people be aware of the plan’s exist-
ence until the Comprehensive Plan is updated sometime in the future. When a
new updated Comprehensive Plan is worked on the Natural Resources and Ag
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Plan could be the core of a new Comprehensive Plan. M. Richmond said maybe
there’s some way to say these other two Plans are an update to existing seg-
ments already in the 2005 Comprehensive Plan so it would become the updat-
ed plan and is incorporated if that’s the desire of the Town Board. It would give
it greater identity than just adding it as an addendum. Since the Ag Commit-
tee is currently working on a resolution to present to the Town Board regarding
this subject it was decided that they would look at what the Ag Committee had
composed and go from there.
T. Woods reported that he found something on the State website (Ag & Mar-
kets) that might help with funding the conservation fund. It’s called the FPIG
Program (Farmland Protection Implementation Grants). C. Schutt was aware
of the program and spoke about it and said they buy out the development
rights. P. Davies said that was mentioned at last week Town Board meeting.
It’s more expensive to buy the development rights than it is to help with the
conservation easement. The Town would be required to match whatever fund-
ing is granted through the program. B. Beck said that the Town has really got
to want to protect some farmland that’s especially significant for whatever rea-
son for the Town to want to help buy the development rights. That would re-
quire a significant amount of money and not likely to be done in this Town. On
the other hand, if any farmer or owner of significant open spaces is willing to
donate the conservation easement it gets exactly the same results.
They next discussed the monitoring of conservation easements. C. Schutt said
most of these the County Planning and the Town are involved and they monitor
them in conjunction with each other. P. Davies said currently the conservation
easement monitoring need for the Town is quite small. The understanding is
someone would visit (in the official capacity) the area(s) with the conservation
easement once a year and make sure the area is still in the natural state. He
suggested that for now, because of the small number of conservation ease-
ments, we could do the monitoring with one of the committee members volun-
teering, but if it got bigger we could ask for a corps of recruits from the Town.
A process for getting recruits would have to be worked out. M. Richmond said
that he’d volunteered to look at the properties in Ellis Hollow. He lives near
there and spoke about what the plans are for the area. He said he needs a set
of guidelines to work with and he doesn’t want to create the guidelines. P. Da-
vies suggested getting basic guidelines from Andy Zepp. M. Richmond suggest-
ed getting something from A. Zepp or wherever and this group could look it
over and build the guidelines into something that we agree with and approve.
C. Schutt said that the Town Board in their resolution to accept this last one,
there’s a whole list of things. M. Richmond said he was at that meeting. There
are several pages that detail what is supposed to be there. J. Grace asked if
that is going to be standard or is each one going to be unique. She said that if
it’s going to be standard then a form (template) can be used to check items off.
C. Schutt said he thinks it is going to be standard. M. Richmond said if it were
different for each one it wouldn’t be manageable. B. Beck said that in a differ-
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ent location it might be a different set of guidelines. C. Schutt said that what
has been passed covers a lot of stuff; it talks about agriculture and stuff like
that. He said he thinks the Town got their template from the Finger Lakes
Land Trust. M. Richmond said that currently he’s volunteered to do the three
that are currently being discussed, but in the future as this goes along their
needs to be some system in place to find a “watcher” for that. C. Schutt said
that in the resolution it talks about problems and what you’re supposed to do if
an issue comes up. P. Davies said he thinks it is necessary for the Town Board
or the Planning Director to provide the person doing the inspection a letter
stating that the inspector (and note the person’s name) is authorized to inspect
the property for the Town. Without proper credentials problems could come
up. He said he’ll ask R. Burger for a digital copy of the resolution and e-mail
the guidelines that are detailed. J. Grace said we need the following:
1. Standardized baseline document
2. Standardized check up document
3. Who the point person is in the Town that you present the information to
The group felt that R. Burger would be the point person in the Town.
S. Bissen asked if they should have a “Conservation Easement monitor” and
would that person be appointed from this Board to do this for a designated
timeframe. P. Davies said it would vary depending on the location; we would
take the volunteer who lives the closest to the area. If we get too many ease-
ments, we’d ask for volunteers to do the monitoring. M. Richmond said we
need to get a “starter kit” in place and P. Davies said he’d work on that. T.
Woods asked if there were plans to put signs up marking the area(s) as being a
Conservation Easement property. No decision was made. J. Grace stated that
a protocol needs to be set up so that the landowner(s) would be contacted by a
Town Official letting the landowner(s) know someone will be inspecting the
property within the next month. B. Beck said that different easements could
be quite different; the Land Trust probably has a whole booklet on this. He al-
so said the Land Trust trains their monitors; how you do the baseline docu-
mentation and how you monitor it forever. P. Davies said it would be nice if
someone from the Land Trust could come and do training for us.
Tompkins County outdoor recreation tourism implementation plan
P. Davies said that much of the plan doesn’t involve us directly because it’s
concerned with the lakes and downtown Ithaca. He noted one item in the plan
that was applicable entitled Planning and Development for Enhanced Access to
Public Lands and Waters; create plans for outdoor recreation enhancing physi-
cal improvements in key under invested areas such as Six Mile Creek natural
area and Hammond Hill State Forest, among others, for important trail access
points identify a clear set of capital improvements including trail enhancement
expansion, trail signage, mapping interpretation and parking. He said as part
of their plan we do have the natural areas that are accessible for hiking, etc.
marked and also the parking areas. N. Munkenbeck said she thought they
meant they’d like to see more and better, like more/better parking areas. P.
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Davies said it might be interesting to visit informally some of these areas over
the summer and see if parking is an issue and come back with a report. N.
Munkenbeck said they’re probably thinking about when there are events hap-
pening (like Nordic Ski Club) that parking could be an issue. If you just stop
by it won’t have the same effect. She suggested asking the authors of the doc-
ument what they meant. B. Beck said this plan was put together primarily to
request input from everyone about the way money is used. Most of the money
for tourism for the County has been used for things other than outdoor recrea-
tion; cultural, arts, etc. They would like to see the money distributed in differ-
ent ways, put more of the money available into outdoor recreation.
Ithaca Deer Management Plan
P. Davies said this was briefly discussed at the January meeting. The report
does emphasize the damage to the vegetation and their main method of con-
trolling the deer was with archers. J. Grace said she thinks that has to do with
making it more available (in the Town) because there are restrictions on shoot-
ing near residences. She said this has been proposed by the Ithaca Conserva-
tion Board, it hasn’t been approved through the Town of Ithaca. They’re trying
to get other communities to be on board with the plan. Cayuga Heights and
Trumansburg has done this. They discussed the different methods of trying to
control the deer population that other areas have tried. P. Davies asked if they
thought we should enter into an examination of deer management in Dryden.
The question was asked if that meant for both the Town and the Village. P.
Davies said we are only responsible for the Town. It was noted that it’s not the
same problem in the Town of Dryden as it is in the Town of Ithaca in regards to
the management methods. P. Davies said he’d like to encourage more hunters.
That would have to be done through the DEC and how they partition how
many deer you can get in specific locations. It was mentioned that many hunt-
ers think there aren’t enough deer in Dryden and if we propose managing the
population we’ll be getting some local opposition. J. Grace said for that reason
she thinks the problem is different and the management solution is different.
She suggested creating programs that would connect landowners with people
who want to hunt. They all felt that was a great idea. S. Bissen said that cur-
rently there isn’t a list of properties to hunt on. N. Munkenbeck said there are
organizations that have lists for large landowners who allow hunting on their
property and who are paid for allowing it. They discussed different ways of
compiling/maintaining a list to get landowners and hunters connected. J.
Grace said she’d contact the DEC to get information from them regarding land-
owner/hunter agreements and see if they have a template. N. Munkenbeck
suggested contacting Farm Bureau, also. M. Richmond said at some point they
might want to talk about coyote management. J. Grace said they need to have
data on the coyote population and what damages they cause just like they have
for deer.
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P. Davies said next month they’ll discuss Ditch Management. J. Grace asked if
they could get copies of the documents that were handed out at R. Schneider’s
presentation. G. Dodici said he has copies and will bring them to the next
meeting.
A motion to adjourn the meeting was made by S. Bissen and seconded by M.
Richmond. It was unanimously approved.
There being no further business, the meeting was adjourned at 9:05 PM.
Respectfully submitted,
Diane Michaud
Deputy Town Clerk