HomeMy WebLinkAbout2017-02-08Dryden Ag Committee
February 8, 2017
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Dryden Ag Advisory Committee
February 8, 2017
Members Present: Kim LaMotte, Evan Carpenter, Steve Foote, Doug Barton
Liaisons: John Kiefer (Planning Board), Craig Schutt (Conservation Board) and Jason
Leifer (Town Board)
Guests: Debbie Teeter, Cornell Cooperative Extension
The committee reviewed the Ag Plan with D. Teeter.
- D. Teeter asked for photos for the front cover of the plan.
- Jeremy Sherman was added to the list of Committee members on page 3.
- On page 4 under the Farming Profile heading - D. Teeter indicated that she is
waiting to get more information regarding the soil qualities in the Town.
- K. LaMotte questioned whether the Town actually supports “51 farm
businesses, etc”. D. Teeter stated that is from the list of farmers and
landowners that was generated between herself, the Committee, and Monika
Roth.
o C. Schutt indicated that some of those on the list should come off based
on the definition of agriculture that the Committee chose to use (the Ag
and Markets definition)
o D. Teeter responded that a lot of time has been put into determining the
list of farmers.
o C. Schutt recommended a different designation for those that are not
getting ag exemption.
o S. Foote pointed out that down the road, someone might see the 51
operations and think that a machinery shop or another business will
believe they will be successful when in reality there is only about 15
cropping and dairy farms. The rest of the “farms” are consumer size.
o D. Teeter reminded the Committee that some of the smaller operations
such as Nancy Munkenbeck’s sheep operation don’t get ag exemption
but isn’t she still considered a farm?
o K. LaMotte believes stating there are 51 farm operations in the Town is
misleading. Anyone who is not familiar with local ag is going to see that
as 51 farms. D. Teeter said that the statement that there are 51 ag
enterprises in Dryden is correct. K. LaMotte questioned how she defines
a farming enterprise. D. Teeter responded that Ag and Markets will define
ag enterprise. If the Committee wants to define it as only someone who
gets ag assessment, that is fine but she doesn’t think it is a true
reflection of ag in Dryden. It is not what other towns have done.
o K. LaMotte asked about the folks that rent their farm land and get ag
assessment even though they are not farming. Do they get counted as a
farm?
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o J. Kiefer stated that this was why he asked D. Teeter to do a re-write of
the key findings because that section explains the different types of
farms. It breaks down the “farms” so people will understand that the 51
farming operations are not all large dairy farms. He has written a
suggested replacement for that section which is attached.
- D. Teeter indicated that she understands what the Committee wants instead of
“51 farm businesses” is the total number of farms that are ag assessed (there
are 27 farming businesses that receive ag assessment and there are an
additional x number of hobby operations)and a separate category for the other
ag operations.
- C. Schutt - Under the section called “Vision for the Future of Agriculture in the
Town of Dryden”, the northeastern part of the town is not the only area that has
good farmland; the entire eastern side of the Town is viable.
- K. LaMotte shared the numbers provided by the USDA NRCS (C. Schutt got that
information and shared it with the Ag Committee): the Town has 5,000 acres of
prime soil and 34,000 acres of statewide importance.
- C. Schutt believes more references are needed to identify where the information
in the plan is coming from.
- There was a discussion on the number of dairy farms in the Town. The plan
indicates there are 6 but the Committee only came up with 5. The milk house
has to be in the Town to count as a Dryden farm.
- On page 5 – J. Kiefer debated the bullet point regarding rural sprawl and the
cost related to residential and agriculture. He doesn’t believe the delivery of
services for residential expansion costs as much as indicated because most
rural homes have private septic and wells. D. Teeter explained that the number
includes school services – farmers aren’t putting cows on the busses.
o J. Kiefer looked for the 1996 study but was unable to find it. D. Teeter
stated that information can be found in the 1996 County Ag and
Farmland Protection Plan and indicated that she will send him a copy. J.
Kiefer said he noticed that the same information is not included in the
updated County plan and D. Teeter said that is because hundreds of
these studies have been done across the nation and they all show the
same thing so that information wasn’t included.
- On page 9 – second paragraph from the bottom (under the heading of
PURPOSE) which is talking about the Comprehensive Plan and the concern by
farmers that “recommendations might be unreasonably restrictive”, J. Kiefer
suggested listing what those particular recommendations are. They have to be
identified to be mediated. D. Teeter responded that maybe there aren’t any that
are unreasonably restrictive but that was one of the farmers concerns
expressed through the survey done last year.
- On page 10 – D. Teeter said she has the wrong information – George Frantz
reviewed the zoning law, not the Comprehensive Plan. It was initially presented
to the Ag Committee at the October 19, 2016 meeting.
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- K. LaMotte questioned the definition of Agriculture “as a commercial enterprise
or a hobby”. D. Teeter said that information came directly from Ag and Markets.
- There was a question regarding the term “maple” as part of agroforestry. Should
it be changed for purposes of clarity to maple sap, maple syrup, etc but D.
Teeter said it would be better to leave the Ag and Markets definition alone.
- Page 12 – Under POPULATION – it should be the Village of Freeville, not Etna.
- She is still waiting for information for the HOUSING section.
- Page 13 – She is leaving the maps in as placeholders until she gets maps for
Dryden.
- Top table regarding population, the Village of Dryden lost population but the
Town and the Village of Freeville gained. The Committee agreed that made
sense. She is going to talk to Scott Doyle (County Planning) to get a better view
of the census.
- The table regarding the number of homes built still has Lansing numbers while
she waits for information from the Town of Dryden. She was hoping that one of
the Code Enforcement Officers could provide her with that information.
- J. Kiefer asked about the median value by year – is that in today’s dollars or
reflective of the value in the time period referenced? For example, the median
value for 1939 or earlier is $195,800. That is a high amount for that time
period. Even if the value is a median, it is still quite high.
- Page 14 – INFRASTRUCTURE – the part of about water is incorrect. The Village
gets their water from Dryden Lake, the other water districts get their water from
Bolton Point, and the Yellow Barn Water district is no longer private.
- D. Teeter asked the Committee to look at the LAND RESOURCE BASE handout.
Monika Roth asked for some help with this section by asking for some feedback
from the Committee.
- Missing soils from the list? Channery, arkport, lounsberry
- How have the farmers dealt with the challenges presented by the soils? Plant
the correct crops for the soil, plant a diversity of crops, work around spots, add
compost, and tile drainage.
- General impression of soil resources in the town? The soil is decent because the
farmers know how to work it. Some areas are more expensive for certain crops
(corn grown in certain areas of town is generates a higher yield) and the
knowledge and efforts of previous generations have assisted.
- Page 17 – C. Schutt recommended adding a map of the watersheds to make the
information more relevant. The fact that drinking water in the City of Ithaca
comes from the Six Mile Creek watershed means nothing unless a person
realized the watershed is primarily in the Town of Dryden.
- D. Teeter indicated that something needs to be included about the upcoming
Cayuga Lake TMDL (Total Maximum Daily Load). She doesn’t have much
information yet but there is a meeting on March 8th at which that will be
discussed with the NYS DEC.
- Page 18 – the numbers in the chart are from Soil and Water and NRCS.
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o Agriculture Waste Facility – there is more than one according to the
Committee. The Shermans have one, the Stuttle farm has one, the
Dedrick farm has a small one, the Becks have two and the Marquis farm
has one.
o D. Teeter asked if any of the waste facilities could be pasture
management system. The Committee did not think so.
o The re are more than 2 alternative watering source systems.
- Page 20 – the second paragraph has 37 farm enterprises – K. LaMotte asked if
that included all of the people that are getting ag assessment. It includes the
farm operations that are getting the assessment – for example, the Sweetland
land is rented by Alan Dedrick. That land is associated with the Dedrick farm
not Ms. Sweetland. The ag assessment is based on the value of the soil.
o The Committee still has questions as to what is being considered a farm
enterprise.
o D. Teeter agreed to send two lists to the Committee: one that has all the
ag assessments and are farmers and one that has all the ag assessments
that are leasing their land.
o D. Barton asked how important it really is to come up with an accurate
list. K. LaMotte said little parcel by parcel it probably doesn’t matter but
having a good idea of that actual number of farms would be helpful.
What constitutes a farm for the purposes of this plan? S. Foote
recommended using the ag exemption rules ($10,000 or $50,000 on less
than 7 acres) as one group and then here is how we see the Town overall.
o D. Teeter indicated that she was good with that but urged the Committee
to not sweep the niche guys under the carpet.
- C. Schutt recommended adding information about AEM (Agricultural
Environmental Management). He feels a definition should be included. There
are also several good programs that are associated with AEM that could be
noted.
- On page 22 – in the box regarding Taxes paid by Dryden Farmers, the
Committee members questioned the amount of tax paid to the Dryden School
and the Fire District Tax.
There being no further business, the meeting was adjourned at 9PM.
Respectfully Submitted,
Erin A. Bieber
Deputy Town Clerk
Dryden Ag and Farmland Protection Plan
2/10/17 John A. Kiefer
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Key Findings
• Large scale dairy farm operations have largely replaced the smaller family
owned and operated dairy farms that used to dominate the rural landscape in
Dryden. The commercial success of the large dairy farms creates competition
for farmland resulting in higher rural land values, a strong market for rental of
farmlands, and is primarily responsible for the 11% increase over the last 10
years in acreage used for agricultural purposed in Dryden. Large dairy farm
operations are the predominant land use in the north west part of Dryden,
owing primarily to the excellent soils in that part of the Town.
• Smaller scale, family-owned and operated dairy farms have all but disappeared
in Dryden. The dramatic reduction in small dairy farms resulted from a
number of factors including competition from larger operations, the increased
regulatory environment, increased taxes, the ability to draw income from
acreage by renting their land to larger dairy operations, and the fact that dairy
farming is an increasingly difficult and complex business and young people
often choose to make their careers elsewhere. One result is the abandonment
of aging and obsolete farm infrastructure which, unfortunately, gives an
accurate impression of the state of this segment of Dryden's agricultural
enterprises.
• Dryden has a growing and diverse selection of smaller agricultural enterprises
such as organic farms, livestock and equine operations, and locally marketed
food products. Many of these farm businesses are operated on a part time
basis and their owners have employment elsewhere. The high cost of farm land
is a challenge to growth for these smaller enterprises.
• New residential development in Dryden occurs primarily outside of the villages
and hamlets. Even though residential development has slowed over the past 20
years, the Town remains a popular place for families wishing to "move to the
country". Although the volume of land consumed by new residential
development is not a direct threat to farming enterprises, the development
affects farming in other ways - traffic, higher land prices and taxes, rural
neighbors unfamiliar with and unhappy with farming activities, and trespass
issues. The non-farming community is largely unaware of the extensive
regulatory environment in which farming community operates.
• Dryden's zoning ordinance is a key resource for protecting farmlands and
farming enterprises. As noted in Chapter V, parts of the ordinance are weak in
the areas of recognizing the diversity of agricultural activities in Dryden and in
limiting land uses that place agriculture at a disadvantage.
• Insert Debbie's item on development rights. Point out that the program is
perceived to be overly complicated.
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Priority Recommendations
• The Ag Advisory Committee needs to work to insure local legislators are
informed of their views of issues affecting the viability of agriculture enterprises
of all sizes and types in Dryden.
• Similarly, the Ag Advisory Committee members should take an active role in
educating the non-farming public of the benefits and challenges to a vibrant
agricultural enterprise.
• The Ag Advisory Committee should work to develop initiatives to improve the
image of farming to the non-farming community, for example, by helping figure
out ways to clean up abandoned farm buildings, lands and equipment.
• The Ag Advisory Committee should take the lead in recommending changes to
Dryden's zoning ordinance such that it does a better job acknowledging and
supporting Dryden's increasingly diverse agricultural enterprises.
• The Ag Advisory Committee should pay close attention to the implementation of
Dryden's new solar energy ordinance. Current language allows up to 3500
acres to be used for solar collectors.
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