HomeMy WebLinkAbout2003-08-05 TOWN OF DRYDEN ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS
® AUGUST 5, 2003
AGENDA : ( 1 ) David L . Porter
( 2 ) Barbara Kenton , John and Louise Kingsbury
( 3 ) Paul Lutwak and Kathy Zahler
MEM . PRESENT: Chairperson Walter Matyjas , David Sprout and Oers
Keleman
ALSO PRESENT. Zoning Officer Henry Slater, Recording Secretary
Penny Lisi , Applicant ( 1 ) David Porter; Applicant' s (2 )
Barbara Kenton , John Kingsbury, Louise Kingsbury ;
Applicant' s ( 3 ) Paul Lutwak , Kathy Zahler; Ray Sutfin
and Rose Sutfin
LEGAL COUNSEL . Randy Marcus
( 1 ) DAVID L. PORTER
7 : 33 PM Chairperson Walter Matyjas opened the hearing of David L.
Porter of 996 Snyder Hill Road , Ithaca who is requesting
® permission to construct and attach a 30' x 28 ' garage to his
existing home . This is requesting variance to Article 7
Section 703 . 1 of the Dryden Town Zoning Ordinance .
Chairperson Matyjas read the legal notice, application and
remainder of the file into the record and asked Mr. Porter if
there was anything he wanted to add .
D. Porter: My property slopes down and I 've put about twelve dump
truck loads of bank run in to try to get my driveway leveled
off. While doing that I didn't really think about the setback.
I ' ve got that all leveled out now so it' s all about at the grade
that I want for the concrete slab . To go to the 70' setback it
would be almost to the rear of the house . The house sits so
close to the road I ' d have to go pretty far down steep to start.
I 'd have to bulldoze that down to make a driveway .
W. Matyjas : On one of the sketches we reference the 70' mark.
0. Keleman : You indicate in your forms you filled out that you are going to
add four feet to the front porch and remove the back porch
and replace it with a deck and yet you label on the next page
where it says a deck in front and a deck in back. Why are
we extending four feet closer?
D. Porter: What I want to do is enclose the front porch which is four
foot by eight foot, right now it' s an open porch I just want to
enclose it and put some storm windows around and then I
want to take some of those cement landscaping blocks and
® build that up higher and eliminate the steps and just go out
to the driveway .
O. Keleman : So you' d be matching heights, basically?
D. Porter : Yes . It would be cement stone with bank run and gravel to
build it up about three feet so instead of having the steps go
down and then back up to the driveway level . There' s no
actual construction .
O. Keleman : Okay , on the diagram it looked like new construction
encroaching four more feet towards the road .
D. Porter: The construction part would be enclosing the existing porch .
I just wanted to include everything .
W. Matyjas : Just to clarify, the footprint of the front of the building will not
be extended towards the road . If you count the footprint of
the porch you' re enclosing that existing porch , but the
footprint of the building including the porch will not be
extended forward?
D . Porter: No.
W. Matyjas : Any questions ? Any public comment? No written comment
in the file . Read letter from T. G. Miller dated 7114103.
H . Slater: There is no 2391 & m involved in this .
W. Matyjas : Any final comments? Closed the public hearing at 7 : 41 pm .
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( 2) BARBARA KENTON , JOHN & LOUISE KINGSBURY
7 : 42 PM Chairperson Walter Matyjas opened the hearing of Barbara
Kenton and John and Louise Kingsbury of Snyder Heights ,
Ithaca who are requesting permission to create a 2 . 31 acre
residential parcel at or about 4 Snyder Heights , Ithaca . This
is requesting variance to Town Law Section 280a .
H . Slater: As I explained earlier in earlier correspondence this is
exempt from the town regulations because it' s a lot of
records , that is these lots were created and a private road
were built in the 501s some 15 years before zoning was in
effect here in the town of Dryden. So under Article 17
section 1701 , there are a lot of records under 1600, I 'm
sorry, and under 17 there are nonconforming , preexisting
exempt situations , but to my knowledge , 280a town law has
never been addressed because the lots never been built
upon and what 280a states is in the issuance of a
construction permit there shall be for purposes of emergency
ingress and egress 15 feet of dedicated property connecting
to a public road and that is not the case here.
W. Matyjas : So they have frontage on a private road but no emergency
vehicle accessible frontage on a public road .
H . Slater: Which the key here is is it accessible? Is that right Randy?
R . Marcus : Yes .
O . Keleman : A private road does not have snow clearing ?
H . Slater: Not by the Town . I think you find in there (file ) a
maintenance agreement in there amongst the landowner
that existed for close to 50 years.
W. Matyjas : Read the remainder of the rile into the record. At this point
the applicants , if present, read your name for the record .
J . Kingsbury : John Kingsbury , Barbara Kenton, Louise Kingsbury,
W. Matyjas : Is there anything else you would like to add to what I have
read into the record ?
J . Kingsbury : It might help you visualize, I ' ll just add two points . One is the
road is oil and stone the same as many Dryden roads , it has
a width of about, the main part of it , it serves several houses ,
it has a width of about 16 feet and the rest of it, the short
pieces going to the houses are about 8 feet each wide . The
concern of about access of emergency vehicle , that
driveway has been plowed better than the town roads
generally speaking over the years . We have a resident
snow plow and it has , particularly this year, give access to
emergency vehicles on maybe as many as 15 occasions and
there has been no problem including the major fire we had
this last March . The Varna fire people got in there with no
problem .
O. Keleman : Mr. Kingsbury, who has the ownership to that road ?
J . Kingsbury : Snyder Heights Incorporated ,
O. Keleman : So there' s no possibility down the road , whoever owns that
land will put it to some other use?
J . Kingsbury : It would be very difficult .
R. Marcus : Why hasn' t it ever been dedicated to the Town ?
J . Kingsbury : Because we have a magnificent Hickory tree which is within
the right of way that the Town would cut down immediately
and for several other reasons of that kind . We' re very happy
with the neighborhood and we'd like to maintain the road to
our standards rather that to any legal standards the town
may have .
W. Matyjas : I drove up the road today and it was what I would consider in
good shape and seemed well maintained . Obviously there' s
no snow today.
J . Kingsbury : If you got as far as my house you' d see the snow plow.
R. Marcus : How many houses are served by that?
J . Kingsbury : Originally five . One burned and one was removed so it' s
now down to three but with the sale of these two lots , if we
conservate them , we could have two more to get it back up
the five that it was originally.
R. Marcus : So these two lots would be sold to two separate buyers?
J . Kingsbury: We don 't know.
L. Kingsbury : Wait a minute , you ' re getting mixed up . You have a map in
® front of you? The two lots , 43 . 1 and 46 . 2 would be
conjoined to a one family home .
J . Kingsbury : We have also the lot to consider of the house that burned .
R. Marcus : If someone were to rebuild there .
W. Matyjas : Now there was a garage out there and I think it was noted on
one of the sketches. That is on 46 . 2 ?
B. Kenton : It' s on 43 . 1 .
J . Kingsbury : You mean on the two properties to be conjoined ? That's a
barn or two-car garage and that' s from the previous owner.
R . Marcus : And that' s the only structure on those two lots?
J . Kingsbury : Yes.
W. Matyjas : Any other questions or comments? (There were none )
Read T. G. Miller letter dated 7114103 and T. C. Department of
Planning letter dated 7/22/03 into the record_ There were no
other written respose . At this point, are there any final
comments?
R. Marcus : I have a question , I think for Henry . On the tax map , where I
think it' s your writing , it says built 1955.
H . Slater: Yes , I researched those to see when they were built .
R. Marcus : Okay , so on these two , where it shows structures built 1988
variance . Do you know what kind of variance they're talking
about there?
H . Slater: An area variance .
R. Marcus : So that had nothing to do with 280a?
H . Slater: No.
W. Matyjas : At this point we will close the hearing (7 : 55 pm) .
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( 2) KATHY ZAHLER AND PAUL LUTWAK
7956 PM Chairperson Walter Matyjas opened the hearing of Kathy
Zahler and Paul Lutwak of 637 Midline Road , Freeville , who
are requesting permission to construct a single family home
with a driveway off Midline Road . This is a variance request
to Dryden Town Law Section 280a .
R. Marcus : I don 't seem to have a copy of the 1981 letter you read .
H . Slater: I don 't think I gave you guys that even though it' s part of the
package because I didn 't think you would know it' s to this
issue .
W. Matyjas : Read application into the record along with a letter dated
7/8/03 from the applicants , rest of the file , letter of intent and
the short environmental assessment form .
H . Slater: There is clearly a difference between this application and the
last application . Clearly this is not an area variance as far as
the Town of Dryden is concerned . As far as the Town of
Dryden is concerned this lot is a conforming lot because it
does provide the appropriate 125' of road frontage or more
on a public road . This is simply an appeal for emergency
access for ingress and egress for emergency service
vehicles . Rather from the point where the road frontage is
created but from an alternative site and that' s all we' re
talking about. I think that pretty well addresses this
particular issue .
R. Marcus : Another way of saying it , stop me if I ' m not rephrasing what
you are saying , is that if the lot owner wanted to build a drive
from Goodband Road to the building site, there'd be no
reason to be here because they have the frontage
necessary, they have the acreage necessary and it just
would be a matter of spending additional money to build a
longer driveway.
H . Slater: To the satisfaction of the fire chief of the jurisdiction and
myself because if you go into 280a it has to satisfy the local
code enforcement officer and fire official in terms of being
adequate.
R. Marcus : Which would be the case for any driveway .
H . Slater: More than 200 feet in length .
W. Matyjas : So that's the specific issue in why a variance is required? Is
for that emergency access. I would like the appealing party ,
if present , to identify yourself for the record .
P. Lutwak : My name is Paul Lutwak.
K. Zahler: I ' m Kathy Zahler.
P. Lutwak : I don't have much to add . The map pretty much describes
Mat we want to do , bringing the driveway in from Goodband
would mean over 3700 feet and would have to cross the
stream , through a swam and open fields . That would be
most prohibitive for us .
K. Zahler: In addition to the expense , it would be impossible to keep it
plowed so it would not be feasible .
W. Matyjas : Just for comparison , coming from Goodband would be 3700 .
Do you know the approximate distance coming off of
midline?
P. Lutwak : It' s approximately 1500 . The driveway coming up from
Midline was cleared 40 feet to allow other type of access .
W. Matyjas : That' s already established right?
P. Lutwak : Yes,
R. Marcus : Do you mean 40 feet in width?
P . Lutwak : 40 feet in cleared trees yes but if the driveway goes up to the
middle it allows for proper grading .
W. Matyjas : Board members, any questions or comments?
R. Marcus : On the sketch map , you identified the scale as one inch
equals 400 feet . Is that reduced ?
P. Lutwak : It is reduced and also hand drawn .
R. Marcus : Do you have a survey map of the property?
P. Lutwak : Well , we have the survey map of the area , some of the lots
haven ' t been combined on the older map .
R. Marcus : I just can 't figure how it would come to 3 , 700 feet from
Goodband and it looks like it's maybe . , .
P. Lutwak : It' s not really a relief map, you can't see the hills .
K. Zahler : It' s not as the crow flies.
R. Marcus : One other thing for clarification , on the sketch , I ' m guessing
the original one must have some different colors outlining
different sections so is it the case that you guys own all of
towards the whole parameter but you don 't own the driveway
area from Midline Road to . . .
P. Lutwak : Yes we do . Since the time the original letter had come out
that driveway has been annexed on to those parcels that are
being combined to one .
R. Marcus : So you own everything then that has that thick outline
around it.
H . Slater: But when you sell your house you won 't specifically own it
anymore , correct? You will only attain easement over it?
P. Lutwak : Correct.
H . Slater: That' s why there here because if they continue to own it they
wouldn' t be here .
R. Marcus : That' s what I wanted to clarify. So what you intend to retain
is just this flag lot that you label as 639 .
P. Lutwak : And also, it' s not labeled on here but, this parcel here that
the " s ' s" go through may possibly be retained also and just
showing 637 , you can see the dotted line there .
R. Marcus : Okay , that runs above 637 .
K. Zahler: The flag lot is really just for bank purposes . We intend to
keep all of the land on the lower section as well .
W. Matyjas : What' s the additional acreage and the acreage of the flag
lot?
P. Lutwak : I don ' t know what the acreage of the flag lot would be
because it hasn't been surveyed yet.
R. Marcus : The bank' s probably requiring it be no more than five though .
P. Lutwak : They said ten to fifteen so we ' re going to try to keep that
within there.
K. Zahler: The whole parcel , everything that we own right now is
approximately 150 .
P. Lutwak : Yes, everything outlined is approximately 150 . What would
be retained after when we sell 637 would be 11 5- 1 35 1 would
guess .
W. Matyjas : At this point I would ask for any comments from any persons
present and please identify yourself for the record .
R. Sutfin : 637 , there is 100 ' there that cannot be built on that did not
come up to zoning specifications . There was a variance
which I did not contest to because I ' ll help anybody out.
They wanted to put a single residence in behind my house , I
said fine I won' t contest this . The zoning was stipulated
when that variance was granted by this zoning board that
that roadway would be just a singe driveway to a single
family residence and it could not be developed for any other
use off that road . Now how can you grant a variance on a
variance? I don 't care if they develop it (the whole hill )
Goodband Road is accessible . That land has been used for
over 200 years and nobody ever had a problem getting up
there to do whatever they wanted . There were even
buildings on that property and people got to them . The
stone walls are still up there but now all of a sudden this is
non -accessible . So we' re going to override a variance that
was granted in ' 81 ? I think in order to do that you' re going to
have to change the zoning laws . I think you ought to take
that into consideration .
W. Matyjas : Just for the record , you said " behind your house" . Where is
your location ?
R . Sutfin : 635 and that was supposed to be a single family residence .
That variance was granted , that' s only going to be a
driveway that goes to that house on that property and there
could be no more development off from that driveway . And
® now they want to open it up and as far as emergency
vehicles getting in there , not these people, but the persons
who had it before had a fire up there and luckily it wasn 't
serious . The fire department made it to the foot of the hill .
They had to drag hoses from the bottom of that hill all the
way to that first residence . That was 150 feet, now you want
to drag it 1 , 500 feet , that is ridiculous . How are you going to
fight a fire up there?
W. Matyjas : Henry , if I can get clarification , the variance that we read into
the record , the 559 Midline . . .
H . Slater: Was for 637 .
W. Matyjas : The house numbers changed here . Could you show us
where 635 is on the map .
Ro. Sutfin . Rose Sutfin . Our house is right here ( showing the board on
the map) . How wide is the lot between the driveway and our
line?
R. Sutfin : 100 feet.
W. Matyjas : Any other public comment or questions from the board ?
R. Marcus : I ' m going to ask you to read the '81 variance again .
W. Matyjas : Read the 1961 variance NOD into the record again.
R. Marcus : So Henry, that proves to be saying that there was no road
frontage , am I correct?
H . Slater: That was before my time , but my understanding was that the
lot that the house is actually built on was a lot separate from
the 100 foot frontage lot which ultimately since that time has
been combined with it.
R. Sutfin : That is why that variance is granted on that 100 to put that
roadway in because in order to sell that 30 acres where the
present residence is at 637 . That is the only reason I didn 't
fight it.
R. Marcus : So that lot where the house was built , that wasn't part of the
land that attaches to Goodband Road .
R. Sutfin : That is correct .
R. Marcus : That was separate .
W. Matyjas : Read into the record 7114103 T. G. Miller; 7131103 Dept. of
Planning; 7129103 Gary Maybee letters.
R . Sutfin : Henry has been on my property when it' s rained and all they
did was start a roadway a few years back and I had water
coming down 40 deep and flooding my whole back yard ,
use to sell the hay off my back property to help pay my taxes
and since it' s been developed up there , I can 't . I live in a
swamp . If you go up there right now, I ' ve got water 6"-8"
deep . It keeps getting worse and worse.
W. Matyjas : We appreciate your comment.
R. Sutfin : They' re already running utilities up there . They probably
® spent a few thousand dollars up there today . Are you going
to do this if you don 't even know for sure if you can do
something . Are they that confident or arrogant that they
know you' re going to pass this? If they are, I ' ve wasted my
time. There' s no sense in me being here if you 've already
made a decision . Does that sound logical?
W. Matyjas : The comment I can make is no decision has been made .
We' re having a public hearing . We do not make a decision
before the public hearing .
R. Marcus : The board has not heard it before now.
R. Sutfin : So why does somebody go out and sink a few thousand
dollars into something they don 't even know if it' s going to be
okay for this zoning board? I 'd like that answered . Why
would you do this?
K. Zahler: It was already scheduled .
R. Sutfin : What do you mean it was already scheduled ? By who?
K. Zahler: We had made , you weren ' t here for the beginning of this , but
we . . .
R. Sutfin : When was the beginning of it ? I thought it started at 8 : 00
tonight?
K. Zahler: Okay , never mind Ray , I ' m not going to . . .
P . Lutwak : When we stated this project, we tried to keep Mr. Slater
involved in it as much as we could .
R. Sutf in ; So you already had permission to go ahead and do this
anyway ,
P. Lutwak : When we were scheduling, when we were going to what and
haw we were going to do it , At that point it wasn't thought
that a variance was needed . By the time Mr, Slater did
inform us that we dick need to get a variance , things had
already been put in motion that couldn 't be stopped . We had
stopped just about everything except this part of putting in
the utilities and they came this morning - It wasn 't any
arrogance on our part as we didn 't know we needed a
variance .
R . Sutfin : What do you mean you didn't know?
H . Slater: Plus you have to bear in mind we have no - - -
R. Sutfin : Did you know you couldn' t put an entrance off from
oodband Road to get up there ? Did you know that was
refused ? Was it refused?
P. Lut aJk : We never applied to have a driveway - - -
R. Sutfin : Henry , then }you 're a liar because you told me it was already
out of your hands , that you had already refused a variance to
come off Goodband Road . Do you sit there and deny that's
H . Slater: No , that 's not what J told you , We are not talking about a
variance , we ' re talking about construction . I can't deny them
a building permit . We 're strictly talking about emergency
I
ngress and egress . That' s all we ' re here for,
R. Sutfin : It was already refused they could not put and entrance up to
that property off Goodband Road -
H . Slater: That is not what I told you .
Ro. Sutfin : That is too what you said -
H , Slater: Then you misunderstood me .
Flo , Sutfin : Right , lets just get a lawyer andwe' ll take it to court. Since
they started doing this, our back yard has been flooded .
can 't even have my dog in the back yard anymore because
she gets floored out. They want to keep the whole
neighborhood natural , what are they doing? They' re
destroying the trees , they' re running out the wildlife- We
can 't even mow the yard we've been mowing for over 40
years because they want it to grow up into weeds hrch is
just going to attract rodents . You put a roadway in up there,
you ' re going to take 160 feet, that' s going to take 40 feet of
our property. They ' re talking about hardship from going vff
oodband Road , what are they causing ors ? He' s been up
there over 60 years in that neighborhood. These people
come up here 10 years ago and now they want to change
the entire neighborhood - l' honestly don't see where this is
right in any way and he sat right there and he's lying ,
H . Slater: I said to you that because they didn 't come off from
® Goodband Road , we have to deny . . .
Ro . Sutfin : You already denied them a variance to come off Goodband
Road because of State regulations because they couldn' t go
up over the hill .
H . Slater: No .
Ro. Sutfin : What do you mean you can 't go up over the hill and put a
roadway in? What do they do with highways?
R. Sutfin : At least that's gradual .
Ro. Sutfin : You cut through and you put roadways in for major
highways , why can' t they do the same thing with a driveway
to go up over a field ? And like he said , as a kid we use to
ride motorcycles up through that field . That field is not that
bad . Granted it' s a little hilly, so what. The hill that we live
on up there is hilly . We were lied to .
H . Slater: You weren 't lied to .
Ro. Sutfin . We were too.
R. Sutfin : That is accessible from there . But it would cost more . So
what . This is not my problem , that' s the developer' s
problem .
R. Marcus : Mr. Sutfin , can I just run a question by you? You were
saying how, I understand you 've been there for many years,
in this house for 40+ years or so , and you were talking about
® how you ' re now seeing flooding in the back yard and I ' m just
wondering when did that start?
R. Sutfin : When they started putting that roadway in .
R. Marcus : So just this year?
Ro . Sutfin : No , they started putting that roadway in about two years
ago.
R. Marcus : That' s what I ' m wondering is just when you started seeing a
change .
Ro. Sutfin : As soon as they started putting that roadway in .
R. Sutfin : There' s also a sewer that comes down in my backyard , the
runoff. You ' re pouring thousands of gallons down through
that but this is okay .
R. Marcus : What sewer are you talking about?
R. Sutfin : The drainage from their septic tank .
R. Marcus : You mean from the septic tank for the house . . . has that been
more.
R. Sutfin : I think every year it gets a little bit worse.
Ro. Sutfin : We used to have a garden up there , but it' s too wet now.
R. Marcus : In the forty or so years that you ' ve owned it, you ' ve never
seen it like this before?
R. Sutfin : No . The more you open land up , the worse everything gets.
Ro . Sutfin : The more they cut and develop up in there , they' re opening
up underground springs .
W. Matyjas . Any other questions or ccmments ? Any other final comment
from the parties ?
R. $utfin : When do we get your decision that you 've okayed ali of this"
W. Maty as . Explained the process of making the decisions and notifying
the parfres-
P . Lutwak : The water issue , there is a lot of water down there- That
area is a swamp - In the eleven years that I ' ve been here it' s
always been a swamp . The water they are talking about has
probably been there since I 've been there . When we did out
the driveway , which by the way , is on the opposite side
where they live , granted when we have a lot of rain and the
driveway is a new driveway the water is ooming down that
and granted there ' s muddy water coming down there, we did
have Henry come out to look at it. All of the Muddy water
was staying in the diversion ditch that was dug for the runoff;
went straight dowry to the road and were not crossing over at
all to their property . We don 't want to take any property
away from them . Henry did come out and look at the water
situation out there and I doubt he' d point out that although
he's lived there for forty years, he 's been in that house for
two when he took out a single wide and put in a double wide
of which whoever did the grading , they' re sitting in a hollow
now.
R . Marcus : As far as you know, where was the house he was living in
two }rears before?
P. Lutak : The same spot .
K. Zahlerw It was sited the same way , it was graded different. I think it
all started with the grading .
P . Lutwak : The other neighbor on the other side , 641 , actually Lathy
use to own that house before we got married - That house
many years before she had bought it had built a diversion
ditch way in the back yard to defer water coming off the
hillside because there was so much corning down ,
R . Marcus : Since we don't have a topographical maps it sounds like - - -
P , Lutak : I have a topographical map .
R. Marcus : It would be interesting to take a look at that . My basic
question was it sounds like from where your house is dowry
to IVlidline Road, its somewhat of a hill . ( Referring to the
map ) The property slopes downward to the west toward
Midline and to the south also? But relative north-south does
it slope south 's And how about going to the north cf your
driveway -
P. Lutak : It' s a ridge .
K . ahler: It leads towards YelJowbarn but everything else is downhill -
R . Marcus : If you were to draw a line where this driveway is , is that also
on somewhat of a ridge? How would you describe the
topography north-south going across the driveway?
P. Lutwak : This is flat until you get to about here and that' s where the
hill starts to go up . ( Continued to explain using the
topographical map) .
H . Slater: Whether or not Ray is being flooded isn ' t really the question
here . Adequate ingress/egress is the question .
K. Zahler: Henry, I didn 't see anything in that variance regarding a
single family dwelling or anything to that effect.
H . Slater: I wouldn't be denying you a building permit if you were going
to access from Goodband Road , which is what I thought you
had talked about doing .
P. Lutwak : We never applied for a building permit or a variance, so you
never could deny us for anything we didn't ask for.
R. Marcus : Henry, you were explaining before that with the driveway
being in excess of 200 feet , the driveway construction would
have to be satisfactory to your office as well as the local fire
chief.
H . Slater: I have seen what he has built to date and they are correct. It
was June last year I received a call from Mr. Sutfin . It' s clear
that the water from their property is following the ditch which
they had built and was flowing to the roadside ditch where it
was supposed to and all the water that was ponded in
Sutfin ' s back yard was crystal clear water. You couldn' t
confuse the two waters . He refused to believe that analogy.
Somehow it magically cleaned itself up before it reached
their backyard .
W. Matyjas : We haven ' t closed the public hearing and I think it' s a good
point that, let me ask this question . Had the applicants
applied for a Goodband Road address and are going to build
a 3, 700 foot driveway through the wetlands , there would be
no variance required?
H . Slater : We wouldn't be here.
R. Marcus : Even though you and the fire chief would still have to
approve the driveway .
H . Slater: It would be a code issue not a zoning issue.
W. Matyjas : Any other public comment? I ' ll close the public hearing at
this time ( 8 : 55 pm ) .
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8 : 66 PM Chair Matyjas closed the public hearing and the board began
their deliberations for Paul Lutwak and Kathy Zahler .
A. IN CONSIDERING WHETHER AN UNDESIRABLE CHANGE WOULD BE
PRODUCED IN THE CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD OR
DETRIMENT TO NEAR13Y PROPERTIES WILL BE CREATED B
GRANTING OF THE SECTION 280A VARIANCE THE ZONING BOARD
OF APPEALS FINDS AS FOLLOWS ;
The development for the ingresslegress for emergency
vehicles has already occurred and this existing route has
less impact than a new atternative route from Goodband ,
The neighbor (#641 ) most impacted has granted an
easement for this route _ The extension branches to the
North , away from the neighbor (#65 ) that alleges a negative
impact _
Motion : 0 . Keleman Second : D . Sprout
In Favor, 3 Opposed : 0
B . IN CONSIDERING WHETHER THE BENEFITS SOUGHT BY THE
APPLICANT CAN BE ACHIEVED BY SOME OTHER METHOD ,
FEASIBLE FOR THE APPLICANT TO PURSUE , OTHER THAN
VARIANCE OF SECTION 280A , THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS
FINDS AS FOLLOWS -
Without the relief requested , access for emergency vehicles
would be required from Ooodband , necessitating an
additional 3 , 700 feet of access way to be developed .
Motion : D . Sprout Second : O . Keleman
In Favor: 3 Opposed ; 0
Co IN CONSIDERING WHETHER THE REQUESTED SECTION 280A
VARIANCE IS SUBSTANTIAL , THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS
FINDS AS FOLLOWS -
Compliance with 280A would require substantially more
disturbance ( , 700 ' ) to the site than the requested relief
( 115001 ) ,
Motion : D . Sprout Second : O . Keleman
In Favor: 3 Opposed : 0
D. IN CONSIDERING WHETHER THE PROPOSED VARIANCE WILL HAVE
® AN ADVERSE EFFECT OR IMPACT ON THE PHYSICAL OR
ENVIRONMENTAL CONDITIONS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OR
DISTRICT, THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS FINDS AS FOLLOWS :
See A , B and C above . The facts presented to the board did
not support the position of the neighbor at #635 , the access
way to #639 is further away from #635 than the existing
driveway to #637 .
Motion : 0 . Keleman Second : D . Sprout
In Favor : 3 Opposed : 0
E . IN CONSIDERING WHETHER THE ALLEGED DIFFICULTY WAS SELF-
CREATED , THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS FINDS AS FOLLOWS :
Yes , but there are advantages to the applicant , the
environment , and emergency responders to this access way
as compared to access off of Goodband Road because of
the shorter distance from the public road .
Motion : D . Sprout Second : 0 . Keleman
In Favor: 3 Opposed : 0
The SEAR short form was completed as follows : a ) no ; b) no ; c) no — facts
presented to the board did not support the contentions of the neighbor at #635
concerning drainage ; c2) no ; c3) no ; c4 ) no , c5) no; c6 ) no , c7 ) none ; d) yes —
two neighboring property owners voiced their objection but did not address the
issue on appeal . All were unanimously approved. Unanimously the Board
approved Chair Matyjas check the second box of part III and a negative
declaration was declared .
THIS VARIANCE IS AN EXEMPT / NON -EXEMPT ACTION UNDER
SEQR SECTION
Motion : Oers Keleman — Grant request
Second : David Sprout
VOTE : YES : (3 ) Walter Matyjas , Oers Keleman , and David Sprout
NO : ( 0 )
ABSTAINED : ( 0 )
DECISION : BASED ON THE FINDINGS , THE BOARD GRANTS THE
40 APPLICANTS REQUEST ON THE CONDITION! THAT THE
PROPOSED ACCESS WAY IS APPROVED BY ALL
AUTHORITIES HAVING JURISDICTION , INCLUDING THE
TOWN CODE OFFICER AND THE LOCAL FIRE CHIEF .
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9 : 65 PM Chair Matyjas and the beard Megan their deliberations for
Barbara Kenton and John and Louise Kingsbury .
A. IN CONSIDERING WHETHER AN UNDESIRABLE CHANGE WOULD BE
PRODUCED IN THE CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD OR
DETRIMENT TO NEARBY PROPERTIES WILL BE CREATED B
GRANTING OF THE SECTION 280A VALIANCE THE ZONING BOARD
OF APPEALS FINDS AS FOLLOWS :
No , the private road has provided adequate access for up to
five residences since 1955 , There is an existing
maintenance agreement among the owners_
Motion : Q , Keleman Second : D . Sprout
In Favor: 3 Opposed : 0
B , IN CONSIDERING WHETHER THE BENEFITS SOUGHT BY THE
APPLICANT CAN BE ACHIEVED BY SOME OTHER METHOD ,
FEASIBLE FOR THE APPLICANT TO PURSUE , OTHER THAN A
VARIANCE OF SECTION 280A. THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS
FINDS AS FOLLOWS .
No, without the granting of relief, no other access is
available ,
Motion : D . Sprout Second : O , Ieleman
In Favor: 3 Opposed : D
O. IN CONSIDERING WHETHER THE REQUESTED SECTION 280A
VARIANCE IS SUBSTANTIAL , THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS
FINDS AS FOLLOWS :
No, the private road already exists and serves several other
residences in a similar matter_
Motion : O . leleman Second : D _ Sprout
In Favor: 3 Opposed : 0
D. IN CONSIDERING WHETHER THE PROPOSED VARIANCE WILL HAVE
AN ADVERSE EFFECT OR IMPACT ON THE PHYSICAL OR
ENVIRONMENTAL CONDITIONS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OR
DISTRICT, THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS FINDS AS FOLLOWS :
No , see A and C above .
Motion : 0 . Keleman Second : D . Sprout
In Favor: 3 Opposed : 0
E. IN CONSIDERING WHETHER THE ALLEGED DIFFICULTY WAS SELF -
CREATED , THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS FINDS AS FOLLOWS :
No , the lots of records preexisted zoning .
Motion * D . Sprout Second : 0 . Keleman
In Favor: 3 Opposed : 0
The SEQR short form was completed as follows : a ) no ; b) no ; c) no; c2 ) no ; c3 )
• no; c4 ) no; c5 ) no ; c6) none ; c7 ) no ; d ) no. All were unanimously approved .
Unanimously the Board approved Chair Matyjas check the second box of part III
and a negative declaration was declared .
THIS VARIANCE IS AN EXEMPT / NON - EXEMPT ACTION UNDER
SEAR SECTION
Motion : Oers Keleman — Grant request
Second : David Sprout
VOTE : YES : ( 3) Walter Matyjas, Oers Keleman , and David Sprout
NO : (0)
ABSTAINED : (0)
DECISION : VARIANCE GRANTED .
10 : 12 PM Chair Matyjas and the board began their deliberations for
David L. Porter.
A. IN CONSIDERING WHETHER AN UNDESIRABLE CHANGE WOULD BE
PRODUCED IN THE CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD OR
DETRIMENT TO NEARBY PROPERTIES WILL BE CLEATED BY
GRANTING OF THE AREA VARIANCE THE ZONING BOARD OF
APPEALS FINDS AS FOLLOWS .
The proposed addition will' not extend further towards the
roan than the existing building . The existing burJding is a
pre-existing , non-corrForming structure , the location of which ,
relative to the road , rs typical of the neighborhood .
Motion : D . Sprout Second : O . Keleman
In Favor. 3 Opposed : 0
B . IN CONSIDERING WHETHER THE BENEFITS SOUGHT BY THE
APPLICANT CAN BE ACHIEVED BY SOME OTHER METHOD ,
FEASIBLE FOR THE APPLICANT TO PURSUE , OTHER ' THAN AN
AREA VALIANCE , THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS FINDS A
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To conform , the front of the addition would almost be
setbacks to the rear of the existing house, and would require
substantial tell , making an attached garage not feasible ,
Motion . O . Keleman Second : D . Sprout
In Favor: 3 Opposed : B
C. IN CONSIDERING WHETHER THE REQUESTED AREA VARIANCE IS
SUBSTANTIAL, THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS FINDS AS
FOLLOWS :
Yes , but it has no environmental or visuaJ impact to the
neighborhood .
Motion : D . Sprout Second : 0 , leleman
In Favor: 3 Opposed : 0
D. IN CONSIDERING WHETHER THE PROPOSED VARIANCE WILL HAVE
AN ADVERSE EFFECT OFF IMPACT ON THE PHYSICAL OR
ENVIRONMENTAL CONDITIONS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OFF
DISTRICT , THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS FINDS AS FOLLOWS .
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No, see A.
Motion : O _ Keleman Second : D _ Sprout
In Favor: 3 Opposed : 0
E . IN CONSIDERING WHETHER THE ALLEGED DIFFICULTY WAS SELF -
CREATED , THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS FINDS AS FOLLOWS ,
Yes, but no feasible alternative exists to meet the goal of a
two -oar attached garage .
Motion : D . Sprout Second : O , Keleman
In Favor: 3 Opposed : 0
THIS VARIANCE IS AN EXEMPT } NON -EXEMPT ACTION UNDER
SEQR SECTION 617. c 1
Motion : David Sprout — Grant request
Second : Oers Keleman
MOTE : YES : (3 ) Walter Matylas , Oers Keleman and David Sprout
NO ( 0 )
ABSTAINED : (0 )
DECISION : VARIANCE GRANTED .