HomeMy WebLinkAbout2003-05-06 TOWN OF DRYDEN ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS
May 6 , 2003
AGENDA : ( 1 ) John and Polly Miner
(2) Comelius Drost
MEM . PRESENT : Chairperson Walter Matyjas , Oers Keleman , David
Sprout and Stephen Trumbull
ALSO PRESENT: Zoning Officer Henry Slater, Recording Secretary
Penny Lisi , Applicant ( 1 ) John Miner, Brook
Greenhouse — Cayuga Country Homes , Applicant ( 2 )
Mrs . Drost , Lawrence Drost
LEGAL COUNSEL : Randy Marcus
( 1 ) JOHN AND POLLY MINER
7 : 35 PM : Chairperson Walter Matyjas opened the hearing of John and
Polly Miner of 218 Irish Settlement Road , Freeville who are
requesting permission to construct a residential structure at
15 Settlement Road , Ithaca . This is requesting variance to
® section 703 . 1 & . 2 of the Dryden Town Zoning Ordinance .
Chairperson Matyjas read the legal notice , application and
remainder of the file into the record and asked Mr. Miner or
Mr. Greenhouse if there was anything he wanted to add .
J . Miner : I think that covers it well . We ' re building a ranch house
similar to those in the neighborhood with an attached
garage . It' s not an exceptionally large house but its a little
more space than the lot allows .
W. Matyjas : With that I ' ll open it up to the board for questions or
comments .
R. Marcus : The only thing that I wanted to put in the record just by way
of full disclosure is I don 't have any relationship with the
Miners , I do represent Cayuga Country Homes but they are
not the applicant so it' s not a direct conflict .
O . Keleman : This is just a curious question . John , could you tell me what
this word is ? It says H2O which I assume is a creek , there' s
the driveway and then there 's something to the right of that .
J . Miner: Yes , that's the sewer hookup .
B. Greenhouse : I think the drawing you are looking at some of the lines didn 't
get photocopied due to the copy machine . I printed it color
and the dotted lines are the setbacks based on the original
interpretation .
O. Keleman : So that truly shows us the overlaps . 1 '
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B . Greenhouse : Flight ,
W, Keleman : Again , some of the color, I thinly it ' s light blue shows the
radius _ On the black and white copy we have an inner are
that is a 50 ' radius, is that the actual property line or edge of
right-of-way ?
B . Greenhouse : Well , no . Basically if you read that ordinance this isn 't like a
corner lot like the one to the left hand side which is a
traditional corner lot so we whet were just trying to show is
how it' s very easy to stay within a 50 ' radius which would be
a secondary road setback _ That' s all that is representing
with that 50' are and then the dotted line would be the 70 '
mark _ This is drawn by surveyor and then the dotted lines
out by the perimeter of the setback , what you can 't see ; next
to the footage or dimension notes is where the actual
property boundaries are . The lot is rectangular with a notch
taken out of it , there 's no arc in the lot , it ' s just an imaginary
line ,
O . Kelemaw Are there any comments by neighbors '
W. Matyjas : No , I didn 't see any other than T . G . Miller and the County . Is
there any other written requests?
H . Slater: No .
W. Mat jas : There 's no one else to speak on this ? Any other questions'
I just have one talking about the usable portion of the lot, I
assume that moans you can 't move the house back or turn
It ? It looks like if you turn it 80 or 90 degrees it would fit but
then the garage doesn ' t line up with the driveway , is that
correct?
B . Greenhouse : Well , pretty much what happens is this lot slopes as you ' re
looking at this particular drawing ( showing the board
members which drawing ) it has a compound slope , it slopes
from the left down to the right and then it slopes fronn the
back to the front so it creates a lot of restrictions _ We ' re just
sort of making everything fit and work , I guess it might be
possible to create like a narrow two story style home with a
garage in front but with a design like that you would probably
have to go , frorn the garage to the main floor you ' d have to
go about two-thirds of a flight of stairs . It's not the design
our customer is interested in but just to fully answer your
question which is more of a southern style design you don 't
really see in this area and then actually when we were
preparing this paperwork , we were presenting John and his
wife with the concept of flipping the house so the garage is
on the other side which we thought might have helped in
Borne ways with certain things . In the end it probably
wouldn 't and more importantly , we can 't even do it because
of the Highway Department _
W. Matyjas : To avoid the turn around .
B. Greenhouse : So , pretty much what we did when we came up with this is
we were trying to come up with a reasonable scenario to
what we thought would happen based on the restrictions that
were understood and what may happen in the end is we may
find ourselves moving the house a little bit further back from
the main road but that' s about it. It seems that no matter
what we ' re going to be impacting on some of these
setbacks . It' s a pretty narrow lot , that' s the biggest problem
but that arc is what really makes it very hard . I don 't know if
it was very clear but I think I totally understand the
interpretation , I just think that 701 , I don 't really think that
gains what the intention of the corner lot definition . I don 't
see how that applies here but it's the closest interpretation of
the zoning ordinance so it' s reasonable to talk about this 70 .
That really cuts away a huge chunk of the usable space .
W. Matyjas : This is a ranch home right?
B . Greenhouse : Yes .
J . Miner: The house itself is 1500 square feet .
W. Matyjas : Stated there were other responses from T . G . Miller and the
Tompkins County Department of Planning and read the
letters into the record and added them to . the file .
R . Marcus : On the floor plan of the house , it looks like the living area
does not extend behind the garage?
J . Miner: The garage sits in a notch so there is some living area
behind the garage .
R. Marcus : And on the sketch it seems the house extends further back .
I ' m just wondering if that part of the house is actually in the
floor plan .
J . Miner: The garage itself extends to that area , its square .
O . Keleman : But it' s the home that shows that it' s over the line but does
the house indeed to that full dimension ?
B . Greenhouse : The drawing is not quite right but I think what the goal is ,
what we anticipate happening is for us try and tilt the house
such that the garage actually would be in the back so it
would rotate clockwise so that the edge of the garage is
almost undoubtedly going to cross over that property line .
J . Miner: We ' re also trying to accommodate a walk out basement on
what would be the south end ; just trying to create more
space .
R. Marcus : My goal is just to be sure when the board considers its
decision its got the correct number of feet of relief because if
the house is going to be pivoted clockwise then the base at
the right hand closer is going to be coming closer to the road
and we just want to be sure you ' re given adequate relief. I ' m
just looking back on your application , is the request so that
you can bring the house as close as 50 ' in radius to the
® center line ; essentially is that the goal ?
B . Greenhouse : Yes and since this was drawn up , we have had the
opportunity to clear the land which it's very different when
you can walk around cleared lot than you can a wooded lot .
think that what we ' re going to find is that 50 ' is not going to
be as critical as it was originally.
R. Marcus : Because you ' re going to be able to pull the house back into
the lot further.
B . Greenhouse : That' s right . That's what we ' re pretty sure is going to
happen .
R . Marcus : So you ' re asking for the 50 ' as an outside limit .
B . Greenhouse : Generally speaking for construction purposes and the
Miner' s purposes , the further back from the road the house
is the more it helps . It' s hard also because we' re working on
such a tiny scale with all these drawings , that's why we had
to go through the trouble and expense of having a surveyor
do this for us . When we drew this up , we didn 't have some
of the knowledge we have today so I think it' s least likely we
will be closer than 50 ' but I felt that when I was reading the
zoning ordinance I thought the side yards is just a number
that absolutely specific to this particular project but the
radius is just we were trying to demonstrate within the body
of the zoning ordinance really isn 't an unreasonable request .
1 think within the writing of the zoning for the Town you could
justify that so rather than even trying to figure out if it' s 56 or
54 feet , this is reasonable request .
R. Marcus : It won 't be nearer than 50 .
B . Greenhouse : No ,
W. Matyjas : I guess the same is true on the side lot , the side yard
setback , you ' re looking for a 7 ' variance ; you ' re saying that
at no point that structure won 't get closer than 8 ' ?
B . Greenhouse : That's correct , we' re trying to count roof overhangs , we
weren 't really clear as every municipality is a little bit
different how that gets interpreted and I didn 't catch that in
the ordinance .
R. Marcus : Henry , the Town would consider anything as . . .
H . Slater : The way it reads it leads you to believe it' s the foundation .
There 's certainly no specification or verbiage about roof
overhangs , cornices or anything of that nature . It speaks to
the building or where it's attached to the ground or whatever
is attached to the ground so it tends to lead you to believe
that it' s to the foundation . It 's not specific; you ' ve got to read
into it a little bit .
R. Marcus : But that' s how you 've interpreted it on a regular basis ?
H . Slater : Absolutely .
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W. Matyjas : It could be used as the foot print of the building .
O. Keleman : How can the pump describe the variance he ' s seeking and
how can we describe the variance granted , if granted , if we
don 't know where this house is going to be ? It seems like
it's going to shift around .
R. Marcus : Well , I think you 've done this before where you 've granted
up to a certain limit.
W. Matyjas : That's why I want to clarify the size , is it 7' of relief up to 8 '
from the side ?
J . Miner: It's 7 ' of relief leaving at least 8 ' .
R . Marcus : No closer than 8 ' . 1 guess the last question would be if the
side yard variance is being requested as 7 ' , you say in the
description per side , so it is the case that you ' re looking to
be no closer than 8 ' to the line on either the south or the
north side ? I just want to be clear, it's not that you need a
total of 7 ' ; you want 7 ' on either side?
J . Miner: Correct , and basically we ' re talking corner to corner is what
impacts , it' s not like there' s a 28 ' x7 ' building section , it's just
that corner is what we ' re essentially anticipating .
B . Greenhouse : One thing that I 've learned since this application that may be
of interest is on the northern side there are two building
sites , I think one is identified as Beroni on the paperwork and
the other is Baker Miller and Baker Miller is in the process of
changing hands . The Beroni site is already built , it' s a
substantial distance away and I can 't really imagine how the
placement of this particular home would have any impact
what so ever but what is really interesting is the other
undeveloped site , which is the comer lot to the north , there is
a sewer line for reasons I don 't quite understand , to service
the Beroni residence that doesn 't cross even close to the
property boundary. It goes well within the northern lot by ,
would estimate between 10 and 18 feet and what that means
is that house is unusually has another restriction , it has to be
pushed that much further away from the Miners home and
also if we ' re lucky enough to get the project , that house , the
way it' s intended to be right now intends to be a significant
distance away on the portion of Settlement Road and
favoring that as a front yard . I guess the point is all this stuff
can 't really impact anyone .
W. Matyjas : Is that the one in the description , in the write- up under
section three it says , " Is the requested variance substantial ?"
It says , " . . . Lot 41 is downhill and may require similar
variances for similar reasons . "
B . Greenhouse : We ' re talking about lot 44 .
W. Matyjas : Significant road frontage .
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Be Greenhouse : 43 is existing and 41 , actually you can see it on the survey
® map it' s 20 ' , okay, the sewer line is 20' from the Miners
property line so even if that homeowner chose Settlement
Road as their front yard their side yard is going to be more
than 20' to get away from the sewer line .
W. Matyjas : Any more questions or final comments ? Okay with that we ' ll
close the hearing at this time . Closed public hearing at 8 : 04
pm ,
( 2 ) CORNELIUS DROST
8005 PM : Chairperson Walter Matyjas opened the hearing of Cornelius
Drost who is requesting permission to develop a commercial
lot at 15 Royal Road , Ithaca . This is requesting variance to
section 1206 . 5 of the Dryden Town Zoning Ordinance ,
Chairperson Matyjas read the legal notice , application and
remainder of the file into the record and asked if there was
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anyone present for this hearing and had anything to add .
M . Droste I ' m Mrs . Drost his wife .
L . Droste I ' m Lawrence Drost his son . It seems like it was all pretty
well covered and we'd just like to emphasize that it would be
a minor variance . If you work out the numbers , it works out
to 20 . 5 % smaller than the 100 ' feet required . It's a minor
variance and again this will let it be developed consistent
with its new MA zoning . If this isn 't given as is it is a
significant hardship on Mr. Drost .
W. Matyjas : At this point I ' ll open it up to the board for questions .
S . Trumbull : Yes , this RB1 , what did that mean ?
H . Slater: Explained the different zoning types.
R . Marcus : Walt , again just for the record , I do have to the disclosure of
my firm representing the applicants for many years . I
personally haven 't done any work for them for quite a few
years . Technically I would be in directly conflicted out of
advising the board on this . If the applicant consents of this
can respond to your questions .
W. Matyjas : I drove4by the site and it seems towards the Hanshaw Road
it' s kind of a swampier area and it was kind of hard to see
where your lot line started .
M . Droste That's the lot next to it.
W. Matyjas : Is it safe to say on this lot there would no swamp or cattails ?
H . Slater : Those type of issues would be specifically addressed during
any site plan review. You have to remember any use
proposed in a MA zoning district is a use permitted strictly by
site plan review and those issues are being addressed . The
Army Corps of Engineers are involved , the DEC and our
Town engineering department is involved .
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W. Matyjas : I didn 't know from the area issue if that was useable . So the
only relief is for the road frontage ? The area is not in
questions?
H . Slater: That' s correct.
W. Matyjas : Since there isn 't anyone else present, Henry is there any
written responses?
H . Slater: No .
W. Matyjas : Read into the record a letter from T. G. Miller dated4/24/03
and a letter from the T C. Dept. of Planning dated 4122103,
Are there any final comments? (There were none ) I will
close the hearing at 8 : 20 PM .
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8 : 22 PM : Chair Matyjas closed the - public hearing and the board began
their deliberations for Cornelius Drost.
A. IN CONSIDERING WHETHER AN UNDESIRABLE CHANGE WOULD BE
PRODUCED IN THE CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD OR
DETRIMENT TO NEARBY PROPERTIES WILL BE CREATED BY
GRANTING OF THE AREA VARIANCE THE ZONING BOARD OF
APPEALS FINDS AS FOLLOWS :
Given that all lots in the Royal Road neighborhood are
currently zoned in MA and used for MA purposes , it is
consistent with that use and no detriment will occur.
Motion : O . Keleman Second : S . Trumbull
In Favor : 4 Opposed : 0
Be IN CONSIDERING WHETHER THE BENEFITS SOUGHT BY THE
APPLICANT CAN BE ACHIEVED BY SOME OTHER METHOD ,
FEASIBLE FOR THE APPLICANT TO PURSUE , OTHER THAN AN
AREA VARIANCE , THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS FINDS AS
FOLLOWS :
No .
Motion : S . Trumbull Second : O . Keleman
In Favor: 4 Opposed : 0
Co IN CONSIDERING WHETHER THE REQUESTED AREA VARIANCE IS
SUBSTANTIAL , THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS FINDS AS
FOLLOWS :
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Although the road frontage shortage is substantial , there are
no visual or practical deleterious effects .
Motion : O . Keleman Second : S . Trumbull
In Favor: 4 Opposed : 0
D . IN CONSIDERING WHETHER THE PROPOSED VARIANCE WILL HAVE
AN ADVERSE EFFECT OR IMPACT ON THE PHYSICAL OR
ENVIRONMENTAL CONDITIONS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OR
DISTRICT, THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS FINDS AS FOLLOWS :
See "A" above .
Motion : D . Sprout Second : O . Keleman
In Favor : 4 Opposed : 0
E . IN CONSIDERING WHETHER THE ALLEGED DIFFICULTY WAS SELF-
CREATED , THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS FINDS AS FOLLOWS :
No , it was the result of a recent re-zoning
Motion : S . Trumbull Second : D . Sprout
In Favor: 4 Opposed : 0
THIS VARIANCE IS AN EXEMPT / NON -EXEMPT ACTION UNDER SEQR
SECTION (SEAR was done by Town Board ) .
Motion : Stephen Trumbull — Adopt Town Board 's SEQR
review
Second : Oers Keleman
VOTE : YES : (4 ) Walter Matyjas , Oers Keleman , Stephen Trumbull
and David Sprout
NO : ( 0 )
ABSTAINED : (0 )
Motion : Oers Keleman — Grant request
Second : David Sprout
VOTE : YES : ( 4 ) Walter Matyjas , Oers Keleman , Stephen Trumbull
and David Sprout
NO : ( 0 )
ABSTAINED : ( 0 )
® DECISION : VARIANCE GRANTED .
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8 :46 PM Chair Matyjas and the board began their deliberations for
John and Polly Miner.
A . IN CONSIDERING WHETHER AN UNDESIRABLE CHANGE WOULD BE
PRODUCED IN THE CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD OR
DETRIMENT TO NEARBY PROPERTIES WILL BE CREATED BY
GRANTING OF THE AREA VARIANCE THE ZONING BOARD OF
APPEALS FINDS AS FOLLOWS :
This neighborhood has small lots , several of which have
area variances to permit appealing home placement and
design . Furthermore , due to topography and the shape of
lot , sitting of the home is limited .
Motion : D . Sprout Second : S . Trumbull
In Favor: 4 Opposed : 0
B . IN CONSIDERING WHETHER THE BENEFITS SOUGHT BY THE
APPLICANT CAN BE ACHIEVED BY SOME OTHER METHOD ,
FEASIBLE FOR THE APPLICANT TO PURSUE , OTHER THAN AN
AREA VARIANCE , THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS FINDS AS
FOLLOWS :
Yes . The most feasible ways to conform would be to
construct an extremely small home , a home without a
garage or a home with a different orientation and extreme
foundation exposure . While these ideas might result in
conformance with most of the setback requirements , they
would result in a home that does not conform in the
neighborhood . In addition , this building lot has a
complicated compound slope and Highway Superintendent
Jack Bush told the applicant they can not locate their
driveway off of the turnaround , due to plowing concerns ,
which results in it being impractical to conform .
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Motion : O . Keleman Second : S . Trumbull
In Favor: 4 Opposed : 0
C . IN CONSIDERING WHETHER THE REQUESTED AREA VARIANCE IS
SUBSTANTIAL , THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS FINDS AS
FOLLOWS :
Although the relief requested is substantial ( 7 ' of 15 ' side
setback and 20 ' of 70 ' front yard setback) only a portion of
the home requires relief due to the angled orientation . Due
to the turn around area creating an irregular shaped lot the
house will actually be set back further from the road than
conforming neighboring homes .
Motion : O . Keleman Second : D . Sprout
In Favor: 4 Opposed : 0
D . IN CONSIDERING WHETHER THE PROPOSED VARIANCE WILL HAVE
AN ADVERSE EFFECT OR IMPACT ON THE PHYSICAL OR
ENVIRONMENTAL CONDITIONS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OR
DISTRICT, THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS FINDS AS FOLLOWS :
See "A" and "C" above .
Motion : S . Trumbull Second : D . Sprout
In Favor: 4 Opposed : 0
E . IN CONSIDERING WHETHER THE ALLEGED DIFFICULTY WAS SELF-
CREATED , THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS FINDS AS FOLLOWS :
Yes , but it will conform with the neighborhood as proposed .
Motion : O . Keleman Second : S . Trumbull
In Favor: 4 Opposed : 0
THIS VARIANCE IS AN EXEMPT ! NON -EXEMPT ACTION UNDER SEAR
SECTION 617 . 5 (c ) — 12 & 13
Motion : Stephen Trumbull — Grant request
Second : David Sprout
® VOTE : YES : ( 4 ) Walter Matyjas , Oers Keleman , Stephen Trumbull
® and David Sprout
NO : ( 0 )
ABSTAINED : ( 0 )
DECISION : VARIANCE GRANTED .
® TOWN OF DRYDEN ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS
August 6 , 2002
AGENDA : ( 1 ) John and Jerri Behler
( 2) John and Petra Teeter
( 3) Walter and Mary Ann Matyjas
MEM . PRESENT : Chairperson Charles Hanley , Stuart Berg , Oers
Kelemen , Walter Matyjas , and Nick La Motte
ALSO PRESENT : Zoning Officer Henry Slater, John and Jerri Behler,
John Teeter, Jeff Bugliari , William Deming , David
Smith , Tony Ditommaso , Claudia Zan
LEGAL COUNSEL : Randy Marcus
( 1 ) John and Jerri Behler
C . Hanley : Chairperson Hanley opened the hearing for John and
Jerri Behler of 562 Ellis Hollow Creek Road , Ithaca to
request permission to erect a freestanding sign 2 ' x 3 ' ;
6 ' square , residential use sign where only a 2 square
foot sign would be permitted by current zoning . The
sign is for a daycare business , " Noah ' s Ark
Playschool" . Chair Hanley asked the Behler's if there
was anything they wanted to add or stress to the
board .
Jo . Behler: We did bring the sign itself that is proposed to hang .
(Took forward for the Board to view) . We were pretty
careful to design a sign that wasn 't neon bright colors
or obnoxious . I know taste is a matter of personal
preference but we did take that into consideration .
We further have , throughout the project of renovating
the house for the daycare ; we've kept all the
neighbors informed of our intentions . Operating a
daycare as well as gone to considerable expense to
deal with what could otherwise be traffic problems by
putting in a turnaround area for parents so they can
come into the driveway forward and go out forward
instead of backing out what would be a dangerous
situation . Given the placement of the trees and our
garage and we are on the inside of a curve it tends to
be an area where you won 't see it if it' s posted back
too far. As you come around the turn , we ' re on the
® inside of the turn so peoples eyes are naturally not
going towards our property but across the road .' I did
give all our neighbors a copy of this variance request
and had conversations with my neighbors as well and
have not directly gotten any objections . I would be
very happy to be granted the variance and even if it
were specific to this sign ; I understand granting a
variance of a sign of this size might be one issue
where we could then go out and create a real loud
obnoxious sign and post it , we might still have a
variance that would allow us to do that. I would be
happy to have the variance specific to this sign if that
would help our chance in getting permission .
C . Hanley : In that case , I will open this up to the board members .
W . Matyjas : Is that two-sided ?
Jo . Behler: Yes .
W . Matyjas : What is that suspended by?
Jo . Behler: We would do a post and cantilever or we might, it' s
fairly heavy, to do a post on either side .
S . Berg : I ' ve seen the sign up for quite a while at the back of
your mailbox .
Jo . Behler: Yes , we put it up temporarily to try to get our
occupancy up because cash flow is an issue when
M running a business and we' re in need of paying for
the bills and paying for what was about a $45 , 000
renovation to the basement to open the daycare in the
first place . There' s financial pressure on us to book
the place .
S . Berg : So that isn 't where you ' re going to place it?
Jo . Behler: No , we ' ll place it , as the variance request says , 25 '
back as soon as we complete the turnaround .
There 's a big pile of dirt out there right now from
excavating out from underneath the house , that' s
going to be graded off as a turnaround for the cars to
come in and out and in the middle of that turnaround
is where the sign is intended to be . I did take
measurements prior to the variance request to
approximate exactly where we would put it .
W . Matyjas : Will that be lit at all ?
Jo . Behler: No .
C . Hanley : When would the hours of business be?
Jo . Behler: We take kids in 7 : 30 am to 5 : 30 pm . Some come a
little early and leave a little late , about 15 minutes .
C . Hanley : Was there anybody here that wanted to speak to this ?
R . Plaisted : We' re Robert and Ellen Plaisted of 1776 Ellis Hollow
Creek Road . We would very much like to support
their request because we'd line to see this daycare
succeed . It ' s nice having another house in the
neighborhood that is occupied during the daytime
which is kind of a rare event in our part of the Hollow
now -
C . Manley . Thank you , is there anyone else that would like to
speak to this ? Board members , Randy?
N . La Motte : Have we got a problem trying to grant the variance
and come up with , perhaps , some recommendations
in the ordinance _ In other words , if we grant this
request , which I have no problem with that at this
paint , and then our recommendation doesn 't include
hat we have approved or are we shooting ourselves
in the foot? Does anybody fellow me
C . Hanley; I ' m not sure .
N . La Motte ; Do you follow me Randy?
R _ Marcus : Not exactly , I know that the note Henry added to the
mailing suggested that we 've seen a lot of similar
situations and I think all of them have been granted
variances ; I couldn 't call to mind any ,
N , La Motte ; What l ' rn saying is if we grant this and then our
recommendations are for a little bit less than this sign ,
have we shot ourselves in the foot?
R . Marcus : I think that you ' re right that if what you are going to
recommend is something different or less than this ,
then yes , you have a little bit of trouble there . One
thing that the applicant pointed out is that the size of
the sign is the same as what is already allowed in the
zoning district. It would be my impression that the
Town Board would be more inclined to make a
change that was equivalent to what else is already
permissible as opposed to going any further than that
and I guess , I ' m not predisposing what your board
wants to recommend , but if it' s already allowed in that
district to have a 6 square foot sign I imagine you
might be thinking along those lines , but a 6 square
foot sign being allowed for one business is riot going
overboard for other kinds of businesses .
N . La Motte : I just wanted to raise that in the discussion _
_ Hanley; I didn 't want to get to the letter to the Town Board until
after we heard all the cases tonight . I think if
everybody just keeps in mind what you ' re saying
about they grant more than we recommend certainly
makes sense . If anybody else doesn 't have any more
questions we' ll move on .
R . Marcus : If you ' re going to move on , I just want to point out that
you want to keep in mind you ' re looking at actually
two different variances .
S . Berg : Setback and size .
C . Hanley: Do we need , does the Board feel it needs a site plan
here where the location of the sign or are we okay
with the notion of how far the setback is ? Do we want
to get into an exact position ?
S . Berg : I ' m comfortable with it ; I ' m very familiar with the
property . I drive by it often and I saw where it was
and understand where he wants to put it .
C . Hanley : Same here .
O . Kelemen : Just out of curiosity , since you have seen where it
was , is where it' s going to be further back than where
it was ?
S . Berg : Yes , from the center of the road , maybe it was 15 ?
Jo . Behler: Yes , now it's right off the back end of the mailbox ; so
the mailbox post is here and we just cantilevered off
of that . For now, the turnaround is not done ; we have
a considerable amount of excavation that still needs
to be done .
S . Berg : But would you estimate it was about 15' from the
center of the road ?
Jo . Behler. Yes .
S . Berg : So like another 10 ' back in the middle of the
turnaround . It' s quite clear to me where it would be
done .
O . Kelemen : Have you set the sign up more or less where you
intend it to go ?
Jo . Behler: No , other than going out and walking where the dirt is
now and visually imagining where this turnaround is
going to go and then I ran a tape measure from the
center of the road back to where I felt it would still be
visible enough . Again , it will be in the middle of the
turnaround so the cars will go in and around it on their
way out.
O . Kelemen : The only reason I ask that question is I hate for you to
be in a situation where the board were to grant the
251 , you put the sign at 25 ' and then you realize you
still can 't really see it as you ' re driving down the road .
Jo . Behler: Admittedly it won 't be as visible as it is now in it will be
partially obstructed by a tree but that is where we
want it. I think it makes a lot of sense there to be in
the middle of that turnaround .
H . Slater: We ' re going to have to conclude this and leave
because there 's going to have to be an arraignment
here .
C . Hanley : What we will do is go ahead and hear the other two
applicants and then get hack to yours so you can
either stay and wait for that or you can call Henry in
the morning ,
( ) John and Pura Teeter
C . Manley : Opened the hearing for John and Petra Teeter of 610
Winston Court , Apt. #5 , Ithaca who are requesting
permission to erect a single family home structure at
24 Settlement Road , Ithaca , It is for a modular home
with attached garage . Chair Hanley opened the floor
to M r- Teeter.
J . Teeter: The only that I would like to add is I have talked to all
the neighbors in the surrounding area except for
maybe one within 500 feet and nobody has raised an
objection , Right now I have had the surveyor' s stare
out where the house is going to be so everybody can
view it and see if they disapprove of it . One miner
change that I have done from what the site plan there
is I 've moved the setback from the road back to b ' .
O . Hanley: Can you come up and show the board so they know
what you ' re talking about . ( Mr. Teeter approached
the board ) -
J . Teeter: Right now I have ' 4 " from the required setback from
the road and I 've moved the house back into the lot
so that will be ' and that's just so that I won 't ever
have problems in the future if I want to do something
to the perch I won 't have to came back and have
another hearing . That's the only issue - I ' d Ile to get
approval as soon a$ possible if that' s something we
can do because we' re kind of in a time frame crunch
and we ' d like to be able to get started as soon as
possible .
N . La IVlotte : While you ' re here , what would be the problem
locating the garage behind the house? Is it totally
impractical ?
J . Teeter: I haven 't thought about actually moving the garage to
the back of the house , The only thing I could think of
is that it would be the way it ties into the house as
right now the roof line and the pitch of roof are in line ,
It would probably cost me more money for me to have
that moved around and tie the garage roof into the
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house roof since it's a pre-manufactured Marne the
roof on the house is already set .
Sr Berg : Is the garage pre- manufactured ?
J . Teeter ; No _ Fight now , the way that the house is planned on
being constructed , the fireail between the house and
the garage is going to be constructed on that side of
the house .
N . La Nlotte : At the factory ?
J . Teeter: Yes , at the factory_ My neighbor who had wrote the
letter, I showed him where the house was staked out
to be at and where the bay window an the side of his
house is , it looks out , my house is located towards the
road enough he can look out and won' t even see my
house at all , The most he would ever see would be a
deck . And if I move the garage in the back , I think he
would have something in his sight when he looked
out .
W _ Matyjas : As far as the lay out of the lot , I see that it looks like
you centered it with equal variance on each side . Is
there any reason for going one side to the other?
J . Teeter: The reason why I wanted to center it in the lot was
that the variance would be ' 10 `; 10 of that being
the overhang ; where as if I entirely put one edge of
the house inside the zoning setback then I would be
almost 6' on the other side so it would be even closer
to the other property line .
S . Berg : I have a question about the distance to the road ; the
45 ' you ' re quoting is from the edge of the road . Is that
correct? We normally measure from the center of the
road so in this case, is it 7 ' from the center of the
road ?
J . Teeter, Approximate width of the road is 60 ; 11rn not exactly
sure , When I was speaking with Kevin , i ' ve been
dealing with him , I ' m looking at the dimension zoning
setback of 40 , that ' s from the center of the road did
you say?
S . Berg : Well , the zoning lava is written from the center of the
road , is that correct`?
H . Slater: Correct , the road is a 6G' road bed , so 0 ' of it is on
your side of the road , so if he' s 0 ' and 45 ' , he 's 75 '
from the center_
J . Teeter: Kevin told me that I only needed to be 74" back from
the center,
_ Hanley: Is there anyone else here to speak to this variance?
Okay , any board members have anything else ? In
that case , we ' ll close the hearing session and after we
finish , we ' ll go back and maize decisions on these
cases in order, You can either wait around for that or
you can call Henry in the morning ,
J . Teeter, You don 't need me for anymore questions?
. Henley : I don 't think so ,
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( ) Walter and Mary Ann Matyjas
. Hanley : Chair Hanley opened the hearing for Walter and Mary
Arta latyjas ' of 14 Bridle Lane , Dryden who Is
requesting permission to create a 1 ' +!- acre
residential parcel at or about 18 Bridle Lane , Dryden .
Chair Hanley opened the floor to Mr. Matyjas ,
W. atyjas : I don 't thinly you missed anything , Basically the
history is there . Lime I said in the write ups We
celebrated our ten year anniversary , so it was about
nine ear ago a had the discussion about possibly
buying the land in behind us and as time went on , we
just did not do it . Most recently , there 's been more
development in the area , and at this point , there' s
only one or two lots left that aren 't constructed , A
couple of other neighbors , i don 't think I mentioned ,
have purchased and either split a lot next to them to
make the lots larger or bought the lot next to them ,
again to protect therm , In my case , I have two homes
either side of me and then this open land behind .
Basically this spring I became aware, I did not even
realize the property had been listed , of the multiple
listing and we had activity and literally within 24 hours
notice I had to get an offer in to purchase it or
somebody else was and my understanding through
the real estate agent, the way they were cutting
through was pretty much going to be in my luck yard .
To construct a home and access so l' stayed up until
about midnight and put an offer together but we did
make it contingent on getting approval for at least one
residential home out there ,
_ Hanley : Before we go to neighbors , do you guys have any
questions ?
0 . l element Walter , what lot is it that you own already'?
1+V _ Matyjas : 14 Bridle Lane ; 2 . 6 where attached parcel 47- 1 -25 . 1g ,
that' s the one with the small pond and the dyke down
there ,
0 . Kelernen : And your home is on that iot?
W . atylas : Correct, that is my current residerice ,
0 . Kelemen : So your intention would be to buy the acreage and
building a new home with no intention to merge the
additional acreage with the lot you. already own ?
W _ Matyjas . No , not the 10 ' greater parcel . There ' s approximately
4 acres that would go to 16 Bridle Lane , or lot M _ As
far as my particular residence , I ' ll be looking to sell
that house and build a new house ,
. Berg : The lot 16 Bridle Lane that trapezoidal area outlined
in yellow is that what's being added '
J . Bugliari : I can spear to that, Jeff Bugliari , 16 Bridle Lane , this
is currently my house ( showing the board ) and the
war the house is situated here , my view is of this
triangle area here off the back window. It's a very odd
shaped lot and this pie it actually comes right down
into the backside . Icy house actually turns and faces
out towards the northwest area and when I knew Wait
was looking at that area , because we knew them was
some activity there , I asked if I couldn 't have the
opportunity to protect my view and also keep density
down and Walt was very hospitable to that . He asked
I I wouldn 't be interested in a piece of this to kind of
protect both by density and the only view we have out
the back of the
house -
. Berg ; This isn 't subdividing a previous subdivision ?
J _ Bugliari : It ' s a boundary area .
H , Slater: Boundary Iinel lot line adjustment ,
, Berg : And that ' s permitted ?
H , Slater: Yes , it' s an exempt activity under subdivisions ,
S . Berg : I have a question about lot shape that would be used
for the future home , spec home or sold as a building
lot , whatever, would that be a flag shaped lot ? Where
is that located ?
W, Matyjas , Yes .
H , Slater; Actually no , lye ' s confused as I initially was . You
better come up and explain _ I think what you ' re
spearing about doesn 't exist ,
W . Matyjas ; ( Approached the Board ) The proposed remaining 10
acres would be the strip that was labeled Bridle Lane
North and will not be a road way .
. Berg : I' sn 't this a portion of a flag lot?
W , Matyjas : It ' s a flag if you consider a long handle . There ' s a
small portion bounded by what they call Bridle Lane
North which was a proposed roadway. The roadway
terminates right here , . it shows a small stub , that was ,
If phase 3 was developed , that road was to be
extended and 11 lots built and extended into a cul -de-
sac aria on this hill - So , we ' re basically buying where
the cul-de-sac and road would have went , using that
roadway as our driveway and therefore , that ' s why
there' s only 60 ' of frontage , It ' s the termination of the
stub that they put in either phase 1 or phase 2r I ' m
excluding the westerly portion that will be going to
Bugliari at approximately 4 acres under a boundary
line agreernentladju trnent. As far as my request, I ' m
also excluding roughly about an acre here that would
be behind 10 Bridle Lane and next to 12 Bridle Lane .
I ' m excluding that piece because of the topography
and it' s bounded by the gas line , those two properties
and then this strip of land ,
- Berg . So that piece would go to this property?
W. Matyjas : it could . At this point we have no plans to go either
way but l want to exclude it in case at some point
either neighbor wants to get a piece of that , It just
makes sense ; I don 't have much need for it.
S . Berg : A home would be built back here ?
W . Matyjas = Fight back up in here ( pointing to the map ) .
S . Berg : You would sell the lot for the building of a home?
W . Matyjas ; My intention is to keep it to sell my home -
S . Berg ; Your own home would be up there and the access
would be here ?
W- matyjasq Going up that strip -
. Berg : This would not be a road ; it would be your driveway ?
W, Matyjas : Yes ,
0 . #{element The roughly one acre area you ' re talking about that ' s
behind tax parcel 25A 31 is the owner of that adjacent
lot interested in acquiring that additional acre from
you ?
W . Matyjas , Actually , he ' s here , we haven 't had any discussion .
0 . I elemen : It's not so much that I ' m interested in knowing
whether there ' s a deal in place , it' s more that all the
zoning board can approve is the reduction of road
frontage that you ' re focusing on from the 1 ' to the
60 ' and as far as the action the zoning board is going
to take is really not going to have any impact on that
being separate from what you' re going to end up with -
W . Matyjas ; What I ' m looking for is I didn 't want a stipulation that
said a variance would be granted for a 12 acre parcel
and then I 'd have to get a new variance if the
neighbor was interested in the additional 1 + acre .
R . Marcus : If that were the case that would be another lot line ,
H . Slater, That ' s not what he 's here for; he' s here for a 60 ' road
frontage .
R . Marcus : I just wanted to point that out because I think you ' re
right Walter, we don 't want the variance to say eluded
to a 12 acre parcel but it should be clear that by the
board by doing this is not commenting one way or
another on what else you might sell off.
W . Matyjas : I ' m not looking for subdivision approval .
N . La Motte : If we go this route Henry , the handle of this flag lot ,
would that permit the development of a Town
highway ?
H . Slater: Sure , if he wanted to deed it to the Town .
N . La Motte : What I ' m leading up to is that would something
prevent his plans going down the sewer and someone
else seizing the opportunity to go ahead and
subdivide that.
H . Slater: There' s nothing to preclude it .
R . Marcus : The variance wouldn 't impact it one way or the other.
N . La Motte : Can we condition it that this would be the
development of one .
H . Slater: Sure , because if you do something different the
variance approval goes away .
R . Marcus : You could , my only hesitation is I ' m wondering if that' s
going to have any impact . In other words , let' s say
you didn 't condition it , you said there 's a variance for,
Mthe proposal is to build one house, nothing else could
be done without having the approval of either the
planning board if it was going to be developed
somehow differently or another variance appeal . I
though maybe what you were saying is you really like
the idea that this 12 acres is going to end up being
used as one residence versus how could have been
used for seven residences and could you , here and
now , by granting the variance eliminate the possibility
that it would ever be used for seven residences by
putting on the specific condition that this property
would only be used for one residence .
N . La Motte : That' s what I was talking about.
R . Marcus : I don't think you can do that because in other words
you can grant the variance to say 60 ' foot is allowed
for one residence and that variance would carry with
the property for so long as it was intended to be
developed that way or a house was built . But , if
Walter decided next year he wasn 't going to build a
house here , he was going to develop seven lots , all
he would have to do is go to the Planning Board and
say , here ' s the plan , I ' m going to build a road and
divide it up into seven lots , you can 't prevent
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somebody from not using the variance you grant
them . You can grant there the variance and it makes
it okay for him to do what he wants but he doesn 't
have to do it and you can 't mane up a condition that in
effect changes the zoning for the property and takes
away rights . A variance expands an owners rights not
retract the owner' s rights se I don 't think it would
stand up in court to say permanently this property can
only be developed with one residence because right
there you ' re limiting the owner's rights and that ' s not
what the point of a variance is . The idea of gefting a
variance is to be free of some restriction .
_ Hanley: But the fact that there was a subdivision already, he' d
still have to come #pack to some organization if he
wanted to other approval _
R . Marcus : Him or someone would have to go back to the
Planning Board for
approval -
. Hanley : So , there 'd have to be some oversight there ?
R . Marcus -, There would have to be , In other words , Welter
couldn't just walk out of here with his variance and
say thanks guys and then pick up with the plans that
had been previously approved to go ahead with the
subdivision . If for nothing else then , you have the 4
acres being carved off and deeded over to Jeff. It' s
not the same subdivision anymore .
_ Hanle} : As long as some oversight in there somewhere .
R _ Marcus : There would have to be Planning Board approval for
anything else to happen .
C . Hanley -, Does anyone else want to speak .
W. Denning : My name is Deming at 10 Bridle Lane _ I here
basically in support of the proposition . Our property
at 10 Bridle Lane abuts the northern part of the
property and I certainly have no objection to what ' s
going on _ I wouldn 't be delirious if he put a room and
roll club in there but other than that , I would be
supportive .
Hanley: Let the record show if it weren 't for Mr, Denning , I ' d be
driving a cab in Brooklyn right now _
D _ Smith : Davin Smith , 15 Bridle Lane , the proposal that Walt
has made does nothing but enhance the
neighborhood and I would certainly support it whole
heartedly,
H , Bieber: I ' m Harfey Bieber and I live on Crystal Drive and m
question is , how far up are you going to come with the
house you plan to build ?
W . Matyjas : It would be going away from Crystal Drive between
Logan ' s Run and Bridle Lane in the open field on the
other side of the gas line .
A . Ditommaso : I ' m Tony Ditommaso and this is my wife Claudia Zan ,
we own 19 and 21 Logan ' s Run and we ' re just here
for information just to find out , as this is just behind
our lots and we just want to know what's going on .
didn 't get a map so I have no idea how far that ' s
coming close to us and where the home is actually
going to be built .
C . Hanley : Did you find out what you needed to know?
A . Ditommaso : I haven 't seen a map yet so maybe if I could take a
look that would give me a sense of it .
S . Berg : You haven 't placed the home on this ?
i W. Matyjas : I have not placed the home . The next contingency is
a pert test . If you look at the topography , this portion
it going to Bugliari and this portion , we ' re going to
leave it . Here 's the gas line so the logical place I ' m
looking to put a home site is in this relatively flatter
area on the top of the hill . There 's a small pond and
the driveway is going to be where the previous road
was proposed .
C . Hanley : Is there anything you wanted to say in the back sir?
You don 't have to . Okay, I ' ll close this section of the
hearing and you can stay, you have to stay for the
first two and then call Henry in the morning .
C . Hanley: Closed the hearing and the board began their
deliberations for John and Jerri Behler.
A. IN CONSIDERING WHETHER AN UNDESIRABLE CHANGE WOULD BE
PRODUCED IN THE CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD OR
DETRIMENT TO NEARBY PROPERTIES WILL BE CREATED BY
GRANTING OF THE AREA VARIANCE THE ZONING BOARD OF
APPEALS FINDS AS FOLLOWS :
The only neighborhood reaction was favorable . Board
members familiar with the sight found the sign in keeping
with the character of the neighborhood and readable at the
posted speed limit .
Motion : S . Berg Second : N . La Motte
In Favor : 5 Opposed : 0
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B. IN CONSIDERING WHETHER THE BENEFITS SOUGHT BY THE
APPLICANT CAN BE ACHIEVED BY SOME OTHER METHOD ,
FEASIBLE FOR THE APPLICANT TO PURSUE , OTHER THAN A
AREA VARIANCE , THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS FINDS AS
FOLLOWS :
Given the placement of the trees , curvature of the road and
area speed limit, a conforming sign and conforming setback
would not be legible .
Motion : S . Berg Second : W , Matjas
In Favor: 5 Opposed : 0
Ca IN CONSIDERING WHETHER THE REQ JE TED AREA VARIANCE IS
SUBSTANTIAL, THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS FINDS AS
FOLLOWS :
While the relief requested is substantial the proposed sign
would have the same area as that allowed for any bed and
breakfast , which is another residential home occupation
permitted in any residential zoning district .
Motion : S _ Berg Second : N . La Motte
In Favor : 5 Opposed : 0
D , IN CONSIDERING WHETHER THE PROPOSED VARIANCE WILL HAVE
AN ADVERSE EFFECTOR IMPACT ON THE PHYSICAL OR
ENVIRONMENTAL CONDITIONS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OR
DISTRICT , THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS FINDS AS FOLLOWS :
Since the sign will not be illuminated , and reasons stated in
"A" , we find no adverse effect_
Motion : S . Berg Second : W . Matyjas
In Favor: 5 Opposed : 0
E . IN CONSIDERING WHETHER THE ALLEGED DIFFICULT' WAS SELF-
CREATED , THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS FINDS AS FOLLOWS :
Absolutely was self created .
Motion : S . Berg Second : O _ telernen
In Favor: 6 Opposed : 0
THIS VARIANCE IS AS EXEMPT I NON -EXEMPT ACTION UNDER
SEAR SECTION 17. c = 12 & 617. 5 (c }= 10
Motion : Stuart Berg — Grant request — Based on the
findings we grant a variance for setback requirements for
location of the sign at a location not closer than 5 ' from the
center line of the pavement_
Second : Nick La Motte
Motion : Stuart Berg — Grant request — Based on the
findings , we grant a variance for a sign of 6 square feet , on
the condition that this sign not be illuminated .
Second : W . Matyjas
VOTE : YES : ( 5 ) Charles Hanley , Stuart Bert , Oers Kelemen , Walter
Matyjas and Nick LaMotte
NO : ( 0 )
ABSTAINED : ( 0 )
DECISION : VARIANCE GRANTED
D . Hanley ; The board began deliberations for John and Petra Teeter.
A . IN CONSIDERING WHETHER AN UNDESIRABLE CHANGE WOULD BE
PRODUCED IN THE CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD OR
DETRIMENT TO NEARBY PROPEF T [ ES WILL BE CREATED BY THE
GRANTING OF THE AREA VARIANCE , THE ZONING BOARD OF
APPEALS FINDS AS FOLLOWS -
The adjoining neighbor on the south side expressed support
for the variance . There was no other neighborhood reaction .
Centering the Dome on this narrow lot minimizes the effect of
this variance .
Motion : S . Berg Second ; W. Matyjas
In Favor : 5 Opposed : 0
• Be IN CONSIDERING WHETHER THE BENEFITS SOUGHT BY THE
APPLICANT CAN BE ACHIEVED BY SOME OTHER METHOD ,
FEASIBLE FOR THE APPLICANT TO PURSUE , OTHER THAN AN
AREA VARIANCE , THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS FINDS AS
FOLLOWS :
The manufactured house has the fire separation wall built at
one of the gable ends . Shifting the garage to the rear of the
house would interfere with the neighbor' s view to a greater
degree . See applicants ' statement from , "The house would
need to be rotated approximately 45 degrees to be
completely within the required zoning setbacks . Rotating the
house would put the front entrance of the residence towards
the neighbor's side yard . Proper drainage of the property
would be compromised if the home were rotated . Due to the
width limitations of the home and the means in which it is
delivered to the site , it impractical to change the physical
dimensions of the home to compensate for the garage .
Motion : S . Berg Second : N . La Motte
In Favor : 5 Opposed : 0
Co IN CONSIDERING WHETHER THE REQUESTED AREA VARIANCE IS
SUBSTANTIAL , THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS FINDS AS
FOLLOWS :
The required variance is 2 ' 10 " on each end of the proposed
construction . 10 " of the variance would be for the roof
overhang . The remaining 12 ' 2" offset from the property line
would be visually insignificant when compared to the
requirement of 15 ' 0 " .
Motion : S . Berg Second : W . Matyjas
In Favor: 5 Opposed : 0
D. IN CONSIDERING WHETHER THE PROPOSED VARIANCE WILL HAVE
AN ADVERSE EFFECT OR IMPACT ON THE PHYSICAL OR
ENVIRONMENTAL ONMENTAL CONDITIONS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OR
DISTRiCT, THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS FINDS AS FOLLOWS :
Movement of the garage would require a longer driveway
and more construction and paving and and for the reasons
stated in "A" , we find no adverse effect or impact can the
neighborhood .
Motion : Sr Berg Second : W . Matyjas
In Favor: 5 Opposed : 0
E . IN CONSIDERINGWHETHER THE ALLEGED DIFFICULTY WAS SELF-
CREATED , THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS FINDS AS FOLLOWS ;
Yes , the difficulty was self created .
Motion : N . La Matte Second : _ Matyjas
In Favor : 5 Opposed : 0
THIS VARIANCE IS AS EXEMPT I NON - EXEMPT ACTION UNDER SEQR
SECTION 617 . 5 (c ) — 1
Motion : Stuart Berg — Grant request
Second : Nick LaMotte
VOTE : ICES : ( 5 ) Charles Hanley, Stuart Bert, Oers Kelemen , Walter
Mat las and Nick LaMotte
N0 : (0 )
ABSTAINED : ( 0 )
DECISION : VARIANCE GRANTED
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C . Hanley : The board began deliberations for Walter and Mary Ann
Matyjas ,
A . INCONSIDERING WHETHER AN UNDESIRABLE CHANGE WOULD BE
PRODUCED IN THE CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD OR
DETRIMENT TO NEARBY PROPERTIES WILL BE CREATED B
GRANTING OF THE AREA VARIANCE THE ZONING BOARD OF
APPEALS FINDS AS FOLLOWS -
The proposal would produce lower density housing and
• preserve the views from existing homes , and maintain the
present open spaces , as compared to the development
potential of this parcel .
Motion : N . LaMotte Second : S . Berg
In Favor: 4 Opposed : 0
Be IN CONSIDERING WHETHER THE BENEFITS SOUGHT BY THE
APPLICANT CAN BE ACHIEVED BY SOME OTHER METHOD ,
FEASIBLE FOR THE APPLICANT TO PURSUE , OTHER THAN AN
AREA VARIANCE , THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS FINDS AS
FOLLOWS :
All adjoining properties are developed , and this is the only
method to achieve the desired results .
Motion : S . Berg Second : O . Kelemen
In Favor : 4 Opposed : 0
C . IN CONSIDERING WHETHER THE REQUESTED AREA VARIANCE IS
i SUBSTANTIAL , THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS FINDS AS
FOLLOWS :
The relief request is numerically substantial given the total
acreage involved and the minimal density of the proposed
project of the proposed development we find the relief
requested but acceptable .
Motion : S . Berg Second : O . Kelemen
In Favor: 4 Opposed : 0
D . IN CONSIDERING WHETHER THE PROPOSED VARIANCE WILL HAVE
AN ADVERSE EFFECT OR IMPACT ON THE PHYSICAL OR
ENVIRONMENTAL CONDITIONS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OR
DISTRICT, THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS FINDS AS FOLLOWS :
Quite to the contrary , this will have a positive effect on the
neighborhood as testified to by several neighbors and to the
reasons mentioned additionally in section "A" we find there
will be no adverse effect or impact on the physical or
environmental conditions in the neighborhood .
Motion : S . Berg Second : N . LaMotte
In Favor: 4 Opposed : 0
E . IN CONSIDERING WHETHER THE ALLEGED DIFFICULTY WAS SELF-
CREATED , THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS FINDS AS FOLLOWS :
The difficulty is self created .
Motion : S . Berg Second : N . LaMotte
In Favor: 4 Opposed : 0
THIS VARIANCE IS AS EXEMPT / NON =EXEMPT ACTION UNDER
SEQR SECTION 617 . 5(c ) — 12 & 13
Motion : Stuart Berg — Grant request
Second : Nick LaMotte
VOTE : YES : (4 ) Charles Hanley, Stuart Berg , Oers Kelemen , and
Nick LaMotte
NO : ( 0 )
ABSTAINED : ( 0 )
DECISION : VARIANCE GRANTED
STATE OF NEW YORK* COUNTY OF TOMPKINS
TOWN OF DRYDEN
In the matter of the appeal of CERTIFICATE
JOHN AND POLLY MINER
The property located at 1. 5 Settlement Road
(Town of Dryden Tax Map Parcel No . 69 . -2-23 .42 )
1 , WALTER MATYJAS , Chairperson of the Town of Dryden ZONING
BOARD OF APPEALS , do hereby certify pursuant to Rule 6 of the Rules of Procedure
of such Board, that the foregoing are the findings of fact and decision approved by such
Board on :
N[AY 6, 2003
Dated : Dryden , New York
Date: 42003
Walter Matyjas
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NOTICE OF DECISION
TUESDAY MAY 69 2003
A public hearing was held to consider an application submitted by John and Polly Miner
of 218 Irish Settlement Road , who were asking for relief fi-om Article 15 Section 703 . 1 &
2 of the Town of Dryden Zoning Ordinance.
Said hearing was duly conducted by the "Town of Dryden Zoning Board of Appeals on
Tuesday May 6, 2003 with members present : Chairperson Walter Matyjas, Oers
Keleman , David Sprout and Stephen Trumbull .
AREA VARIANCE
APPLICANT : MINER
A. IN CONSIDERING WHETHER AN UNDESIRABLE CHANGE WOULD BE
PRODUCED IN THE CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD OR
DETRIMENT TO NEARBY PROPERTIES WILL BE CREATED BY
GRANTING OF THE AREA VARIANCE THE ZONING BOARD OF
APPEALS FINDS AS FOLLOWS :
This neighborhood has small lots, several of which have area
variances to permit appealing home placement and design .
Furthennore, due to topography and the shape of lot , siting of the
home is limited .
Motion : D . Sprout Second : S . Trumbull
In Favor : 4 Opposed : 0
Be IN CONSIDERING WHETHER THE BENEFITS SOUGHT BY THE
APPLICANT CAN BE ACHIEVED BY SOME OTHER. METHOD, FEASIBLE
FOR THE APPLICANT TO PURSUE , OTHER THAN AN AREA VARIANCE,
THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS FINDS AS FOLLOWS :
Yes . The most feasible ways to conform would be to construct an
extremely small home, a home without a garage or a home with a
different orientation and extreme foundation exposure. While
these ideas might result in conformance with most of the setback
requirements , they would result in a home that does not conform in
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the neighborhood . In addition , this building lot has a complicated
compound slope and Highway Superintendent Jack Bush told the
applicant they can not locate their driveway off of the turnaround ,
due to plowing concerns , which results in it being impractical to
conform .
Motion : O . Keleman Second : S . Trumbull
In Favor : 4 Opposed : 0
Co IN CONSIDERING WHETHER THE REQUESTED AREA VARIANCE IS
SUBSTANTIAL, THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS FINDS AS
FOLLOWS :
Although the relief requested is substantial ( 7 ' of 15 ' side setback
and 20 ' of 70 ' front yard setback) only a portion of the home
requires relief due to the angled orientation . Due to the turn
around area creating an irregular Shaped lot the house will actually
• be set back further from the road than conforming neighboring
homes .
Motion : O . Keleman Second : D . Sprout
In Favor : 4 Opposed : 0
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D . IN CONSIDERING WHETHER THE PROPOSED VARIANCE WILL HAVE
AN ADVERSE EFFECT OR IMPACT ON THE PHYSICAL OR
ENVIRONMENTAL CONDITIONS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OR
DISTRICT, THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS FINDS AS FOLLOWS :
See "A " and "C" above.
Motion : S . Trumbull Second : D. Sprout
In Favor : 4 Opposed : 0
E. IN CONSIDERING WHETHER THE ALLEGED DIFFICULTY WAS SELF-
CREATED, THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS FINDS AS FOLLOWS :
Yes, but it will conform with the neighborhood as proposed .
• Motion : O. Keleman Second : S . Trumbull
In favor : 4 Opposed : 0
THIS VARIANCE IS AN EXEMPT / NON-EXEMPT ACTION UNDER SEQR
SECTION 617.5(c) - 12 &. 1.3
Motion : Stephen Trumbull — Grant request
Second : David Sprout
VOTE : YES : (4) Walter Matyjas, Oers Keleman, Stephen Trumbull and
David Sprout
NO : (0)
ABSTAINED : (0)
DECISION . VARIANCE GRANTED.
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STATE OF NEW YORK : COUNTY OF TOMPKINS
TOWN OF DRYDEN
In the matter of the appeal of CERTIFICATE
CORNELIUS DROST
The property located at 15 Royal Road
(Town of Dryden Tax Map Parcel No , 43 . - 1 =29 . 6)
I , WALTER MATYJAS , Chairperson of the Town of Dryden ZONING
BOARD OF APPEALS, do hereby certify pursuant to Rule 6 of the Rules of Procedure
of such Board , that the foregoing are the findings of fact and decision approved by such
Board on :
MAY 612003
Dated : Dryden, New York
Date: 12003
Walter Matyjas
NOTICE OF DECISION
TUESDAY MAV 612003
A public hearing was held to consider an application submitted by Cornelius Drost of 12.9
H1cko y Circle, who was asking for rclieF from Article 15 Section 1206. 5 of the Town of
Dryden Zoning Oicdinanoc.
Said hearing was duly coriducted by the 'town of Dryden Zoning .Board of- Appeals on
Tuesday May 6, 2003 with members presento Chairperson Walter Matyjas, Oers
Keleman, David Sprout and Stephen Trumbull _
AREA VARIANCE
APPLI ANTP DRO T
Ao INCONSIDER-rN WHETHER Ali, UNDESIRABLE CHANGE WOULD BE
PRODUCED IN THE CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD OR
DETRIMENT TO NEARBY PROPERTIES WILL BE CREATED BY
GRANTTNG Or THE AREA VARIANCE THE ZONING BOARD OF
APPEALS FINDS AS FOLLOWS :
Given that all lots in the Royal Road neighborhood are currently
zoed in ETA and uses! fOr M so.�
purpo , i
n t is consistent with that
use and no detriment will occur.
Motion . 0 . Keleman Second : S . Trumbull
In Favor : 4 Opposed : 0
B , iN CONSIDERTNG WHETHER THE BENEFITS SOUGHT BY THE
APPLICANT CAN BE ACHIEVED BY SOME OTHER METHOD, FEASIBLE
FOR THE APPLICANT TO PURSUE, OTHER THAN AN AREA VARIANCE ,
THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS FTNDS AS FOLLOWS :
Igo ,
Motion : Sr 'Trumbull Second : O. Keleinan
In Favor# 4 Oppowd : 0
C . IN CONSIDERING WHETHER THE REQUESTED AREA VARIANCE I
SUBSTANT[AL, THE ZONTNG BOARD OF APPEALS FINDS A
FOLLOWS :
Although the road frontage shortage is substantial , there are no
visual or practical deleterious effects .
Motion : O. Keleman Second : S . Trumbull
In Favor: 4 Opposed : 0
D . IN CONSIDERING WHETHER THE PROPOSED VARIANCE WILL HAVE
AN ADVERSE EFFECT OR IMPACT ON THE PHYSICAL OR
ENVIRONMENTAL CONDITIONS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OR
DISTRICT, THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS FINDS AS FOLLOWS :
See "A " above.
Motion : D . Sprout Second : 0. Keleman
In Favor : 4 Opposcd : 0
E . IN CONSIDERING WHETHER `I" HE ALLEGED DIFFICULTY WAS SELF -
CREATED, THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS FINDS AS FOLLOWS :
No, it was the result of a recent re-zoning
Motion : S . Trumbull Second : D. Sprout
In Favor : 4 Opposed : 0
THIS VARIANCE IS AN EXEMPT / NON - EXEMPT ACTION UNDER SEQR
SECTION (SEQR was done by Town Board).
Motion : Stephen Trumbull — Adopt Town Board ' s SEQR review
Second : Oers Keleman
VOTE : YES : (4) Walter Matyjas, Oers Keleman , Stephen Trumbull and
David Sprout
NO : (0)
ABSTAINED : (0)
Motion : Oers Keleman — Grant request
Second : David Sprout
VOTE : YES : (4) Walter Matyjas, Oers Keleman, Stephen Trumbull and
David Sprout
NO : (0)
ABSTAINED : (0)
DECISION : VAR-IANCE. GRANTED .