HomeMy WebLinkAbout1985-09-17TOWN OF DRYDEN
ZONING BOARD OF
APPEALS
SEPTEMBER 17,111985
SPECIAL. MEETING
Zoning Board met 9 ®17 -85 with members D. Rose, N. LaMotte,
• C. Hatfield, Chr. B. Keech, & Z O.jS. Stewart present.
Absent® P. .,Brellochs.,
Special public hearing called tojorder 7:36 PM to consider
application of John Peverly to build addition to his home at 348.
Snyder Hill Rd., & is requesting variance for 70' set back and 151
side property set back.' This is second hearing on this because
first time neglected to advertise that 151 side yard set back also
needed. Entire Board has been to Mr. Peverly's since first hearing
to look at lot lines, which have been recently surveyed. No one
present.to,speak either for or against granting of.variance. Board
had no questions, no need for executive session.
After looking at property, it was found variance not necessary
for front yard setback. Measurements showed addition would set
back 70 -71;,1 from road centerline. Board found all houses were
consistantly set to right hand side,of lots so actually presented
space between houses. Even . though houses themselves close to side
yard line,. that would still be aprox. 801 from new addition to
neighbor's home. Board had letter from Mr. Gutelius (neighbor)
stating he had*no objections to variance being granted for Mr.
Peverlyls addition
Mr. Peverly stated he & Mr. Gutelius had talked it over, & wondered
if necessary to allow 301 between new addition & any future structure
Mr. Gutelius may wish to construct.'
B. Keech explained any structure?on Gutelius property would only
need to be 151 from his own side yard lot line, which could be 201
from Peverly's addition.
Co HATFIELD made motion to grant;; 151 side yard variance as
requested. Seconded by No LaMOTTE.� Discussion - Letter from Mr.
Gutelius should be kept on file.
.rVOTE 4 YES 1 ABSENT VARIANCE GRANTED
J. Peverly said he was pleasantly surprised entire Board had
been out to look over his place. Really appreciated their time &
efforts. Hadn't really expected that kind of treatment. Pleasant
exception,to' the rule.
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B. Keech thanked him,saying it was nice to hear some "good words"
once in a while. ,.
SPECIAL.MEETING ADJOURNED. <..
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TOWN OF DRYDEN SEPTEMBER 3,19.85
. ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS
Zoning Board met Sept. 3 with members D. Rose, P. Brellochs,
N. LaMotte C. Hatfield, Chr, B. Keech, & Z.O. S. Stewart present.
Meeting called to order 7:35 PM.
• HEARING I 7 :36 PM
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Public hearing to consider application of James Shippy to sell
lot & requesting variance to sec. 11803 of Town Zoning Ordinance which
requires building lot to have at least 125' road frontage. Chr.
B. Keech asked if there was any one present to speak either for or
against granting of variance.
John Vaccaro of 823 N. Wood Rd`* asked how much frontage there was
at present & what would happen if'!variance was not granted, could
land only be used for agricultural purposes then? Also wondered what
next step would be if variance denied. B. Keech explained it was
for reasons such as this the ZBA ;was there, & that no matter how an
ordinance was written there may be similar situations. Also stated
that Civil Court could overrule a,ZBA decision.
P. Brellochs said premise for 11125' really has to do with density
of development. In absense of that, obviously narrower lot tighter
density would be when ordinance adopted. My assumption, since I
wasn't there, would be that was conceived to be reasonable land use
plan for Town of Dryden to carry them into future - as narrow as that -
Fact there is properties including one we will be considering tonight,
that have minimal frontage on public road, but lots of acreage behind,
not 125' frontage but close to it, that sometimes makes for very
difficult cases.
• J. Vaccaro had spoken to many of his neighbors, all he spoke to
were against setting precedent &j,allowing more dense population.
Concerned because they had movedipto area for want of plenty of space.
Presented Board with petition against variance. B. Keech said reason
for public hearings was for folks'to voice their opinions, & their
imput was helpful. Asked if anyone else would like to speak.
Vicki Dougherty - Groton, N.Y.`- was interested in purchasing
Shippy property. Stated they hadn't planned to build on 110' strip,
but further back on open part. Russ Vidler - 790 N. Wood Rd. asked
if frontage would be needed since, planning to build further back.
B. Keech suggested if people were against parts of zoning ordinance
they should go to Planning Board & maybe some requirements could be
changed. Wanda Bruster - 821 N. ;Wood Rd. - wondered if variance granted
& they were to build further back on lot, if circle for septic system
would still be needed. Her well located way back on her lot & worried
about possible health hazard. B.,' Keech assured her that was up to
Tompkins Co. Health Dept. & one o'If their requirements was that sewage
systems must be at least 100' from any well.
J. Vaccaro asked if property al 'ctually had to be purchased or if
right -of -way might be granted. In other words, if he had design on
buying this 45 acres' & variance ,granted, would change value of lot
. considerably. He & his father had been thinking about purchasing that
property but figured price wouldhave to come down if it could only be
used for agricultural purposes. ;They'd rather variance denied.
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+ James Shippy - Hector St., Ithaca - Restated they didn't want to
build on 110' strip but back on 42 acre rectangle vAgre they would be
300' from any well. If variance denied, land would be locked up so
no one could build, only one. able to use land would be Mr. Vaccaro,
J. Vaccaro said what Shippy actually saying was make it possible for
him not to have to purchase property off me & lower value of my property
because his property is landlocked, not my fault. B. Keech said the
property was not landlocked, just'''lacked proper frontage, J. Vaccaro
stated Shippy didn't have enough frontage to build & that it had been
strong consideration when he first purchased his property. (No one had
mentioned possibility of applyin& for variance, thought should have
occured to him). B. Keech asked Board members if any questions.
N. LaMotte asked where Dougherty planned to build, ti. Dougherty
showed location on survey map, saying they were three years away from
building, just checking possibilities before purchasing land. D. Rose
asked J. Vaccaro how long he'd owned property & who purchased from.
J. Vaccaro purchased land about 2`years ago from a company who moved
people that change location of jobs, didn't remember name. D. Rose
wondered if property had all been one piece at one time, J. Shippy
said it had & he'd owned it. Held sold front section to neighbor to
add to acreage & kept the back for hunting purposes. D, Rose suggested
people look into zoning ordinance's before making such transactions that
presented these kind of problems."
General discussion of status of property now, other possibilities
including developer being able to put a road in back to 45 acres
and developing that land as opposed to a single residence.
Public hearing closed 7:49 PM
HEARING II 7:50 PM
Public hearing to consider application of Dean Benson to build
addition on his home at 469 Thomas Rd. & is requesting variance to
sec. 703 of Town Ordinance which requires building be at least 70'
from road center line.
D. Benson had filled out short EAF. His main concern because of
steep slope in back, only place for addition would be one proposed.
P. Brellochs had been to site, verified steep drop off, almost two
terraces, only place for addition. Estimated 151 drop from Thomas Rd.
Public hearing closed 8 :00 PM
HEARING, III 8:02 PM
Public hearing to consider application of John Peverly to build
addition to his home at 348 Snyder Hill Rd., & is requesting variance
to sec 703 of Town Zoning Ordinance which requires building be at
least 70' from road center line.,
B. Keech said variance also needed for 15r side yard requirement.
J. Peverly said lots were residertial"'arranged similarly to his own.
Houses set on east side of lots.; Said his neighbor, Mr. Gutelius,
had no objections to closeness of proposed addition. Both J. Peverly
& Mr. Gutelius wondered about 511'dimension not mentioned in letter to
land owners. S. Stewart said it was an oversite on advertising.
Pq Brellophkq questioned approxe distance of separation between proposed
addition &I+i. Gutelius' residence. J. Peverly estimated 751.
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P. Brellochs had been to site. General discussion of possibilities
Of changing dimentions of addition, why asking for such a large
addition for garage, questioned accuracy of footage drawn on sketch
from porch to road. B. Keech asked if Mr. Peverly could get written
statement from Mr. Gutelius, J. Peverly thought he could.
Public hearing closed 8:15
BOARD MOVED INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION.
HEARING • III
All hearings reopened 8:37 PM
Mr. Peverly only one present. B.i;,Keech explained why this was difficult
due to error & oversite in public notice advertising. After lengthy
discussion it was:_decided to postpone this hearing until correction
could be advertised and Board could look at site. Board. will meet at
Mr. Peverly's tomorrow night, 'Wednesday, 9 -4 -85 at 6:00 PM. A special
hearing will be held September -l7'', at 7 :30 PM. B. KeecheD. pologized
for delay and inconvenience.
DECISIONS
HARING. I (J. Shippy)
C. HATFIELD made motion to grant Uvariance with stipulation that
variance be limited to one residence to be set back minimum of 3611
from center of road ( minimum 30f 'from East Boundary of Bruster
property). Seconded by D. ROSE.'!
VOTE ALL YES ir VARIANCE GRANTED
HEARING II (D. Benson)
Discussed topographical problems.',
P. BRELLOCHS made motion to approve variance for addition not to
exceed 141 6" in length. Seconded by D. ROSE,
VOTE ALL YES VARIANCE GRANTED
HEARING` III (J. Peverly)
Special hearing scheduled for September
Meeting adjourned 9 :30 PM
179 1985 7 :30 PM
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