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TOWN OF DRYDEN
TOWN END MEETING
February 5, 2002
Board Members Present:; Supv Mark Varva�y.�nis, Cl Stephen Stelick, Jr.,
Cl Christopher Michaels, Cl Deborah Grantham
Absent: Cl Charles Hatfield
Other Elected Officials: Bambi L. 14ollenbeck, Town Clerk
Jack Bush, Highv ay Superintmdent
Other Toum Staff- Mahlon R. Perkins, Town Attorney
Henry Slater, Zoning Officer
David Putnam (TG Millers), Town Engineer
Dr. Patricia Archambault, upei'mi tendent of Dryden School District, and Chair of the
r,hool District Safety Committee, introduced some membexs of the Safety Committee= John
Bailey, represents the school's insurance carrier, Tom Jackson, represeridng the
transportation department, and Jahn Curatolo, a board of education member serving on the
safety committee. Other members include Ron Flynn, representing the Fire Department,
Margaret Ryan of the Dryden Police Department, and staff from various .school departments.
They discuss safety issues in the school district and one that has been on the agenda for the
last year as they revisit their emergency and evacuation plan is the ccmcern of the committee
that the campus at the Middle, Schoolf High School just has one access road (from Route 38), if
it was necessary to evacuate students and Route 38 was blocked for some reason there ❑ ould
be no way to accomplish an evacuation. That has led to discussion.; of connecting to Mott
Road as an alternate means of ingress and egress. Dr Archambault distribixted a letter to
board members from Rick `young, Dryden Fire Chief, expressing his concern with only having
one entrance to the school campus.
John Bailey said as a former Dryden High School student, now the insurance
representative for the school, and as a community member_ he think, serious consideration
should be given to another exit from the school, potentially an exit on to Mott Road and /or
another area to gi %e access to the building in case of an emergency. There are safety issues
with the current exit and the masses of people trying to get in and out of the school at dZerent
times of the day, There i$ a group of vouthful drivers going in and out of the school who may
not be patient at Mmes because over time there is a lot of congestion in the area, including
school buses_ It is a major safety issue. From an insurance perspective, in regards to au
emr geTicy situation, they higWy recommend another entrance /exit for the high school. He
understands that it has been talked a_baut in the past, and the safety cox mittee is here to
support that tonight,
Toza ,Jackson, representative of the transportation departments', said they have a
pTablem with the buses exiting Lhe campus_ In the morning they sometimes wait for 8 to 10
minutes to exit. Mute 38 is very busy in the morning with normal commuter traffic, school
traffic and salt trucks. It gets quite dangerous and they feel it will be safer if they can put the
buses out on Mott Road, probably three- quarters of the buses could exit that direction and
save time on the roads. There are about 0 buses servicing the campus in the mor�i � and in
the aitermoon.
John Curatolo, school br)ard remember and police officer in Dryden and Ithaca.. He stated
that having an entrance/ exit to Mott Road woulcl enhance handicapped accessibility for
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members of the community who like to enjoy sporting events. He has witnessed the difficulties
handicapped people have in accessing the fields. A lady on crutches got stranded in the fields
because her crutches got caught in the soft ground in the spring and she had to be retrieved by
someone in a vehicle. He explained that during a SWAT training exercisAv at the High School (a
mock bank robbery in Cortland with a vehicle stop in the driveway of the High School) it
became readily apparent that there was no way to gain access to the High School except
through the main driveway. All agencies present: realized the difficulties this presents.
Vehicles would not be able to use the path from Mott Road during wet weather because they
would sink. He believes it is a huge safety factor not to have a second way in or out for
whatever emergency that could occur or whatever situation may arise.
Dr Archambault said that the situation has been briefly discussed at the board level
and there are also concerns about if it is a public road what the implications for the district
would be. There are many things to talk about., but they wanted to open the matter for
discussion and hope that there could be a resolution acceptable to both parties.
Supv Varvayanis asked if they want a public road and Dr Archambault said she
thought there would be some concerns of the board for opening it up to public access and the
road being open 24 hours a day, but some kind of a road that would be able to be used
mutually. They are open to discussion. John Bailey said he thought: the school district would
be willing to maintain it as far as plowing, etc. Tom Jackson said that quite a bit of the work
has been done as far as clearing the area. where they would like the road to go.
Cl Stclick noted the road would be going through existing sport fields and asked what
would be done to protect the children using the fields. John Bailey said there would probably
be some fencing and some speed bumps. John Curatolo said there were a variety of ways to
control speed that could be utilized, and he was not sure what the surface of the road would '
be. Dr Archambault noted that the road would need to support buses, fire trucks and other
emergency service vehicles. In response to a question from Cl Stelick, Jack Bush stated that
an oil and stone road may be sufficient for short term use.
Cl Grantham said that the issue that needs discussion long before the design the road
is discussed is the benefit to the Town. The School District isn't fully within in the Town of
Dryden and serves people in other towns. If there is not a quantifiable benefit to the Town for
paying for part of the road, then it should not: even be discussed. if the Town were to share
facilities (a. building) there is a quantifiable benefit to the To«m; there are shared grant
revenues to be applied for, etc, and then there would be space to be shared. She does not see
that in the road; the road will benefit the school district only, not the Town, and she doesn't see
how we can justify spending taxpayer money on it. Is there a. shared resource there? Is there
some way that we are getting funding that we wouldn't get otherwise to be able to do something
that we need to do anyway? If the answer is no, then we can't help with funding the road.
That discussion has to happen before any discussion of design. She thinks that the issue of a
public road into the school district is a very serious issue. Who is going to keep people from
being on the road if it is a Town road? Anyone could use it.
Supv Varvayanis stated that he agrees about 90` %,. He thinks a discussion of the design
is important because what: he has heard so far makes him believe it is basically a school
driveway and not a Town road. If the Town is going to do what is basically a driveway, then the
Town needs some benefit. But we need to know what we are building before we can start
talking about whether it is a Town road, and does the Town need the road or are we building a
driveway. And if we are building a driveway it would be something done under contract and
the Town would need to get something of value in return.
Dr Archambault said that there are some benefits aside from the school use. The '
school's fields and facilities are used by the Town and Village community members of all ages
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for a variety of programs. The larger percentage of the residents of the Town do go to the
® Dryden School District.. Eight to eighty -five percent of the residents of the Town send their
children to the Dryden School District and would benefit from better access and increased
safety for their children. John Bailey stated that a. valuable asset of the Town is the children
who reside in the Town that use the school for their education, etc and the safety of the
children is something that the Town should be concerned about, not just gaining some benefit
to the Town from the road. The ultimate benefit is the safety of the children should there be a
serious event at the school.
Supv Varvayanis said that he is a taxpayer to both the Town and the school district and
safety is a big concern, but the question that Cl Grantham is raising is not whether as citizens
we are concerned it is which taxpayer pool pays for it. The school district is its own taxing
entity and there are very strict rules on which pools of taxpayers pay to what fund, and the
State Comptroller pays attention to that.
J Bailey stated that the School and Town need to work together for the benefit of the
children and the taxpayers as a whole, because the benefit is the safety of those who attend the
school and use the facilities.
J Curatolo stated he witnessed an event at a soccer game where a young lady broke her
leg, the ambulance had to drive out across the fields and got stuck in the mud and people had
to push the ambulance out. He thinks it is healthy to start the conversation now because it
will take time to plan it, but it will be there for future generations. Safety is high in people's
minds now because of the events that have gone on in the world and there needs to be some
investment in that safety. He understands part of the residents attend Ithaca Schools, and
they do have two driveways and different ways in and out, and their school is configured in a
® number of smaller buildings.
Cl Grantham stated that her point was that for the Town Board to agree to help fund, in
part or in full, a project like this there has to be a quantifiable benefit to the Town, and if any
other school district came to the board for help building a road, it would be same response.
What is the benefit to the Town? Without an answer to that question, it can't be done. When
this discussion happened a few years ago, no one ever carne up with an answer to that
question. The school districts collect their own taxes and they need to build their own roads.
J Curatolo said the town taxpayers do want some of this to happen. Supv Varvayanis said it's
80''' /o of the taxpayers, which is a large number, but what Cl Grantham is talking about is State
Law. You have to have 100%, or you set up a special benefit district, which is basically the
Dryden School District. The District can tax it's own residents.
Kathy Zahler noted that the Ithaca School District has commissioned a traffic study to
discuss what is going on with traffic around some of its schools, and the school district is
paying for the study, but she is fairly sure that if they find that the roads are not wide enough
that the school district will not be paying to widen them. Supv Varvayanis responded that if
the school built a driveway out to Mott Road and then Mott Road isn't safe, the Town would
have to improve Mott Road.
Atty Perkins said he believes Supv Varvayanis and Cl Grantham are right; there has to
be some kind of a quid pro quo. Supv Varvayanis said using the fields would work, but there
would have to be some kind of contract detailing the agreement. Atty Perkins said the Town is
not in the business of building roads; the Town rehabilitates roads, it takes title to them when
they have been dedicated according to Town Law and Highway Law for public purposes and
then assumes responsibility for them. Traditionally, the Town is not in a position to build
® them from scratch unless there is some kind of quid pro quo that the Town, if the Board was
willing, could participate in.
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Donna Mott wondered what would be an example. She sees a benefit in safety for $00%
of the Town residents, less hazard on the present roads, better use for Town residents of the
fields and facilities. 40
Cl Grantham said that there is lot of people in Town who say that we need more soccer
fields. If it would cost the Town $XX to build the soccer fields, and if the Town built the road
for the school for $XX and the School gave the Town an equal value in soccer fields, then there
is a. benefit to the whole Town, because every child in the Town has access to the fields for a
given number of hours for the same price as if the Town had purchased land and built soccer
fields. You have to say exactly what the benefit is and what the value of the benefit is.
Paul Streeter stated that there is tremendous use by the Town already, for example
soccer. All the youth in the youth sports are not part of the district. The sports activities up
through sixth grade have nothing to do with the school and all are using the school fields.
That is where they are seeing the benefit to the Town. Supv Varvayanis said there would have
to be some kind of contract regarding the number of fields, number of hours, etc.
Cl Grantham said the kids are already using the fields and if the Town builds the
driveway the same number of kids are going to be using the same number of fields for the same
number of hours, and at any time the school could say they need the fields for longer hours for
the school teams. Dr Archambault said those arrangements can be worked out because they
are currently doing those things, and charge a minimal fee. They would be open to looking at
that and quantifying that. use. J Bailey said if there is a need in the Town for additional soccer
fields, in the spirit of cooperation something could be worked out that would be beneficial to
both parties. Dr Archambault said they have a lot of land yet to be developed where fields
could be built and they have maintenance and grounds crews that know how to develop and
care for fields, so the Town would not have to do that. She thinks there is a quid pro quo. 0
Cl Stelick, having run Dryden Youth Sports, the Town is not like Lansing who has its
own Parks and Recreation area to use. Without the school the youth programs in the Town of
Dryden would not exist the way they are today. The football program just paid the school $100
for use of the facilities. if there were a. dollar figure placed on what the sports programs do at
the school, it would be substantial. For example, the Dryden Youth Wrestling Tournament was
last weekend, and the fee was almost nothing. The amount of money generated from the
tournament pays for the wrestlers (30 +) to go to wrestling tournaments around to state to make
them better so they can participate at the upper levels. In addition, baseball, soccer, lacrosse,
cheerleading and basketball uses almost exclusively Dryden Central School District property.
There is no property anywhere used to the extent the school's property is used (990/4-)).
Cl Grantham said if the Town were to build the road, we would have to see an increase
in benefits to the Town. Legally and responsibly there needs to be an increase in benefits to
the Town. Supv Varvayanis said that would be done just by having a contract: because right
now whatever is being done they could stop tomorrow. If there were a contract saying this is
exactly what we are going to do (no increase) and they quantify if, we'd be okay legally. Cl
Grantham stated it would be a good idea to look for grant funds such as Rural School
District/ Rural Town.
Cl Michaels noted there are questions that would need to be answered at some point.
Would it be a good idea to have students exiting from various locations? Will there be parking
spaces for handicapped persons, and places along the road for teams to be able to drop off
students. He said if the Town of Dryden were to fund this, it is coming completely from local
taxpayer money, but his understanding is that the school district's budget is largely funded
from multiple sources, including state finding. He believes it is much more expensive for the
local community if the funding came from the Town's budget, but if it was funded from the 40
school budget and the school %vas able to get state funds for it, the local cost would be quite a
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bit different. He is not convinced the Town's budget is the best place for the money to come
is from. Dr Archambault said that this would not qualify for building aid because it would not
contain instructional areas. The school district tax base is quite small, and the school does not
get a lot from the State. They do vote on the budget and it gets harder and harder and if you
put something in there that takes away from the instructional programs is probably not
something that would get support. She would like to fund some mechanism to share some
grants and they would like to find a way to cooperate on the project.
Paul Streeter, President of the Board of Education, said that the school budget when
presented to the community for a vote last year, passed by 8 votes. The state revenue is not
increasing anywhere near the cost of the schools' most critical needs and this year the '
projection is that it %will be flat, and that' means probably decreasing in several areas. This puts
an increasing burden on local taxpayers. Dryden currently has the highest school tax rate in
the County. That doesn't mean they are the highest spender. On a per pupil basis, Dryden is
mid -range on total expenditures and on instructional expenditures. The highest tax rate is due
to the fact that Dryden has a lower tax base than surrounding districts and most similar size
districts the same size in the State.
P Streeter - Since we know you are in the process of revising the Master Plan for
Dryden, the Dryden Central School District would like to go on record as supporting planned
development in the town. We would like to see active recruitment of tax - paying businesses and
housing to areas within our school district that have the existing infrastructure to support
such development. Since our district is faced with decreased state funding; increased
mandates; and increased, required expenses in all areas, we see no way of holding taxes down
in the long run without enlarging our tax base or seriously reducing and eroding quality of the
educational programs. We believe that: diminishing the quality of the education program will
® result in Dryden becoming less attractive for development in the long run. We will do anything
we can to help in this endeavor. Be stated that Dryden is just not attractive because of the tax
base on the school side, to bring kids in. It is a serious problem for the School. They are not
here to ask anything specific other than to encourage to the Town to look at development in
looking at the master plan.
Cl Michaels asked
for
a copy of Mr.
Streeter's
statement and will forward it to George
Frantz who is working on
the
master plan
and to the
Planning Board,
P Streeter also presented the board with a copy of information obtained at a conference
regarding the impact of September 11 disaster on the state budget and funding.
Martha Robertson pointed out that more development doesn't necessarily equal higher
net tax revenue. John Bailey said that neither does keeping businesses out of towns and
villages; that there needs to be some progress and that working together can make it happen.
Dr Archambault will be notified of planning board meetings and the school can send a
representative.
Supv Varvayanis noted that the site distance coming out the main driveway at the high
school is not good and asked if they had complained to the NYS DOT. Tom Jackson said that
the school had years ago. The State did not want to put the driveway where it is now although
he did not know why. The School had asked for a traffic light at one time and that request was
denied. Dave Putnam suggested that perhaps they could ask the State to remove the hump
between the two driveways or to fill in the low spot on the Freeville side to improve the site
distance. Dr Archambault thanked the Board for listening and discussing the matter.
Supv Varvayanis asked the Highway Superintendent if an agreement was reached with
the school whether he had the manpower and time to do the work. J Bush said he supposed
anything is possible. Supv Varvayanis said he had spoken with Dr. Ross at TC3 who said that
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if he could get some assistance with putting in the soccer fields (drainage, leveling, etc), he will
have Thomas & Associates do the engineering, but he doesn't want to spend the money on
engineering unless he's got some idea that the work might actually get done. J Bush said he'd
like to stay open minded about it, and he can see both sides, that the Town needs to benefit in
some way.
J Bush - There is an assumption here I think that the Town Highway Department is
going to do this work, and I guess what I'm looking at is I don't think you have the ability to do
that. It sounds to me like this is something the Town Board is deciding on and the Town Board
is going to have to foot the bill for it moneywise, but to think that we just have manpower
standing around doing nothing and equipment that is sitting around doing nothing, I think
there's definitely a myth.
Cl Grantham asked if there was as project like this the Town would either have to
contract it out or the Highway Department would need to add personnel. J Bush said that he
didn't want to say it isn't possible, but: they are already looking at a project on Lake Road that
they are supposed to be a part of and that's a big project, and that has nothing to do with the
work that the Highway Department needs to do just to maintain the roads that they have now.
Supv Varvayanis said they are all aware that the projects involve real money and that the
Highway Department has work to do, and that the board will not commit the Highway
Department to anything without talking to Jack and making sure they can do it.
Cl Grantham asked if there were standard costs for building a road. Dave Putnam said
it would depend on what type of road you want to build and where you want to build it. An
engineering estimate can be made once you have a project; it could be $75 /foot to $300 /foot.
An interstate could be a million dollars a mile.
J
Bush
stated he
didn't
believe Mott Road
was built
to handle that kind of
txaffic
and
the road
would
probably
have
to be improved and
would be
an additional expense
to the
Town.
Supv Varvayanis said he had discussed issues regarding Time Warner with Dean Ross,
and he will go over the contract and take a look at that. TC3 would like to establish a light
district: at the intersections of Livermore and Bahar Road and Livermore and Farview Drive.
Atty Perkins - Aside from the fact that you've got two quite rural roads, I'm not sure that
traffic really justifies it, but the procedure would be to form a lighting district, special
improvement district, just like we have at Leisure Lane and other areas in the Town. You
would assess the cost of the installation and the annual cost of operating the lights to the
benefitted properties, which presumably would be the Christmas Tree farm and woodlot.
Supv Varvayanis said that streetlights could placed at the intersections of Livermore
and Farview and Livermore and Bahar and Dean Ross thought that the college would pay for it.
Atty Perkins said that was certainly possible, and the Town could determine whether to allow
the road to be lighted. There would be no expense to the Town. Cl Grantham said she would
have no objection to the college installing the light and paying for it. Cl Michaels said he
wasn't sure it was necessary.
Petry Walbridge said she hoped the lights would shine down more than up and not
shine on to neighboring properties. She wondered if the Town could adopt some ordinance
with respect to lighting, and said that often people think if it is brighter it is safer, when
frequently it just makes more glare and people can lurk in the shadows because your eyes
don't adjust to the difference. Supv Varvayanis asked Ms Walbridge to provide him with
whatever information she had regarding that, and Cl Michaels said it might be addressed in the
master plan. 0
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Martha Robertson, County Board representative, said that she would not be able to
come next week and was present to give her report. She has given the Town Board's
resolutions for an area speed limit in the Ellis Hollow area and stop signs to Marty luster and
Pete Messmer at the County Highway Department. She said Mr Messmer is very interested in
seeing that the area speed limit request is successful, and has sent his own package in support
of the resolutions to DOT. A representative of NYS DOT will be meeting with area residents to
discuss the matter.
M Robertson will be serving as a county representative to the Recreation Partnership
Board and the Cooperative Extension Advisory Board, The County Board approved the
agreement for the recreation partnership last night. Partner municipalities are to approve and
execute the agreement by some time in March.
Cathy Valentino addressed the County Board last night as the first Town Supervisor to
take a formal slot on the agenda in the county's efforts to promote communication between the
County and the Towns.
M Robertson reported that the Town of Ithaca has decided not to pursue the lawsuit on
redistricting.
Supv Varvayanis reported that the contracts for fire service were mailed to the Fire
Departments and have not yet: been returned. He has not heard any official reports. Dave
Putnam stated that he believed the Supervisor would be receiving a reply shortly.
Cl Michaels reported that he and Cl Grantham visited the Varna Department. He
wanted to get some information on what they do, the services they perform and some of the
® requirements necessary for them to train and serve the community. In the fire contracts there
was a request for specific pieces of information that had caused some concern. Part of his
inquiry was what kind of information were they keeping now as part of their requirements with
the Stale. Cl Michaels stated that they are already keeping the information that the Town had
requested in the contract, and more, as part of the requirements that they have to submit to
the State. He said the form that is sent to the State contains two to three times more
information than the Town had requested. He said that the State's only remedy is that
information is not: filed is to shut down the department and he doesn't think there is a fining
mechanism or anything along those lines. He said that our contract should ask them to meet
the requirements of the state because we have the most direct ability to withhold funds to try
to get them to comply. It: is the most likely way to remedy what may become a serious enough
infracture for the State to want to shut them down.
The information required by the Town is already kept by the fire department, and in
Varna they are putting it into a software program after the reports are handwritten. The Varna
Fire Department is under the impression that other fire departments in the Town are also
using the same or similar software to keep track of the information. They discussed trying to
facilitate the various departments in the area using the same software (or compatible) and
potentially finding ways for them to more efficiently enter the information, such as creating a
form to be carried around in some form of tablet pc for automatic entry. It seems to be the
grudgework of the department to complete the form and the process. It seems there could be a
relatively low cost way to reduce the work and record keeping of the department. He suggested
that someone in the department with some computer science background could do the work, or
see if any local schools or colleges have students who could help out.
Cl Michaels reported that: the software they use provides a lot of information and several
reports can be generated from it. He encourages the use the software and said that it is only a
fe%T.T hundred dollars and perhaps the Town could support it as an addendum to their contract.
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He reiterated that the information on the forms that the State requires is exactly the
information the Town needs. 0
Atty Perkins provided the supervisor's office with a memo to be sent to the fire
departments that had received the contracts that encouraged the departments to contact the
Supervisor with the form of information collected by the departments as it may be sufficient.
Supv Varvayanis stated he had not heard from any of the departments. Cl Grantham said that
the Supervisor did send out a letter to the departments offering to help find funding for
assistance with software to aid in reporting.
Dave Putnam said that the software is not cheap, costing about $600 a year to maintain
it. It is very proprietary and it sends it in a form that the State and Federal governments will
accept. He said that having an electronic pad may not be a good idea because of the harsh
environment they would be used in.
Atty Perkins said the board had heard a long presentation about how onerous these
reporting requirements were urith respect to the ambulance and it turns out they already had
the capability, they only had to print the report. -He is not very sympathetic about the
complaining now, especially if the reports are already being prepared and they are satisfactory.
The Town's position was "show us what you've got, if you think you've got the stuff". Supv
Varvayanis said they haven't officially complained yet. Cl Grantham agrees with Cl Michaels
that from what they saw in Varna, it is more than sufficient. They may have to block out the
personal information.
Peggy Walbridge said perhaps the Town should offer some training to the volunteer fire
departments on how to be effective with the software. Supv Varvayanis said that was included
in the letter he sent out. Cl Michaels noted that the Chiefs are responsible for reporting the
information and it may be that a large part of the rest of the department are not aware of it
going out, and if it is sent electronically they may not: realize it is kept on paper.
Cl Michaels reported that he has visited the Highway ]department and spent several
hours with the Highway Superintendent. He found the Cornell Local Roads Program helpful in
analyzing the information J Bush had provided on equipment: and specifically with respect to
what he is proposing in not keeping equipment when the repair costs start to escalate. The
average per hour cost (in terms of use of equipment) of maintaining the older pieces of
equipment (10 years plus) averaged between $11 and $12 an hour for repair costs, and the
newer equipment was running about $5 to $6 an hour. For equipment used on an hourly
basis that: amounts to $5,000 to $6,000 a year in terms of differential maintenance costs. It is
the same or cheaper to look at new equipment than it is to keep it in its older time in the life
cycle. By having newer equipment and by the way Jack outfits the equipment he has been able
to use it for longer periods during the year and make it more accessible for various uses, and
the fleet has reduced over the years because of that allocation of resources. Cl Michaels
complimented J Bush and stated it is clear that he has been following the recommendations
put forward by Cornell on how to run the Highway Department and he has been keeping track
of things in a very detailed way. Because of the State bid process, he has been able to use
equipment for a year and sell it for more was paid for it.
RESOLUTION 1187 - AUTHORIZE HIGHWAY EQUIPMENT TRANSFERS
Cl Michaels offered the following resolution and asked for its adoption:
RESOLVED, that this Town Board hereby authorizes the Highway Superintendent to
purchase two 2002 new and unused ten wheel dump trucks with snowplow equipment through
state bid, not to exceed $229,677.80; and it is further 0
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RESOLVED, that the Highway Superintendent is hereby authorized to purchase one
2002 new and unused cab & chassis, 4 x 4, regular cab truck through state bid, not to exceed
$43,000; and it is further
RESOLVED, that the Highway Superintendent is hereby authorized to purchase one
2002 new 4 x 4 pickup truck for the Highway Department through the state bid, not to exceed
$25,000; and it is further
RESOLVED, that the Highway Superintendent is hereby authorized to purchase one
2002 new 4 x 4 truck for the Department of Public Works through the state bid not to exceed
$25,000; and it is further
RESOLVED, that the Highway Superintendent is hereby authorized to purchase one
2002 new and unused law tractor with 54" mower through the state bid not to exceed $7,500
and to sell a 2001 John Deere 425 lawn tractor with 54" mower, serial #M00425A091754 at a
surplus auction or by advertisement to bid or to a public entity or private individual, minimum
bid $5,800; and it is further
RESOLVED, that the Highway Superintendent is hereby authorized to sell a 2000 Ford
550 regular cab, ,4 x 4, single axle dump truck with snowplow equipment,
VIN# 1 FDAF57FXYEE08266 at a surplus auction or by advertisement to bid or to a public
entity or private individual, minimum bid $30,000; and it is further
RESOLVED, that the I•Iighway Superintendent is hereby authorized to sell a 2000 GMC
4 x 4, 3/4 ton pickup truck VIN #1GTGK24R1YR168931 at a surplus auction or by
advertisement to bid or to a public entity or private individual, minimum bid $19,000; and it is
® further
RESOLVED, that the Highway Superintendent is hereby authorized to sell a 1996
Dodge 4 x 4, 3/4 ton pickup truck VIN #187HF16Y8 rS689007 at a surplus auction or by
advertisement to bid or to a public entity or private individual at fair market value; and it is
further
RESOLVED, that the Highway Superintendent is hereby authorized to sell a 1989 Mack
4 x 4, single axle truck VIN #2M2S141C5KC001089 at a surplus auction or by advertisement to
bid or to a public entity or private individual at fair market value; and it is further
RESOLVED, that the Highway Superintendent is hereby authorized to sell a 1985 GMC
tandem axle truck VIN# I.GDT9E4J0F1,1503909 at a surplus auction or by advertisement to bid
or to a public entity or private individual at fair market value.
2nd Cl Stelick
Roll Call Vote CI Stelick Yes
Supv Varvayanis Yes
Cl Michaels Yes
Cl Grantham Yes
Cl Grantham stated that the County has talked about conducting a county-wide aquifer
study with the US Geological Survey and the Towns and they are not doing that this year, and
the Town has talked about doing it's own and appropriated $30,000 in this year's budget to do
it. She has spoken with Ed Bugliosi who is the chief of the Ithaca sub - district office of the
USGS and they have right now cost -share funding available and in the next couple of months
will have to be locking in cost share rates for the next: few years. If the Town wants to go ahead
® with an aquifer study we should meet with him and come up with a plan now so that we don't
lose that 301/6 cost share from the Federal government. It has been decreasing and will
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probably decrease again next year. If it is locked in this year it can be locked into a multi -year
program with them. She believes the Town of Caroline is also interested in proceeding and it
may be that we could work on the same valley fill aquifer together, or we may have our own
separate work done. Cl Grantham thinks it is important to go ahead with an aquifer study.
We are heading into drought for this year and all of the bedrock wells on the hills have a lot of
problem in drought years (Snyder Hill , Ellis Heights and some other places in Town. The valley
fill aquifers take longer to respond. She thinks there are immediate quantity issues that never
get addressed that we need to know more about and there is also vulnerability to
contamination that we need to know more about, in some cases from septics. She would like
to open a conversation with USGS about what it would cost, what plan of work we could get
into and hopefully be able to come back next month with some sort of work plan, costs, and
proposed contract.
Cl Michaels asked what the original proposal with the County was, and Cl Grantham
said that when they first: started talking about it the Federal share was stall 501/o and the
County was talking about paying 90/0 of the other half and the Towns chipping in 101/6. Then
that ratio changed a few times until of was 30% for the Federal share, 35% for the County, and
35% for the Towns. There was never really a written proposal or draft contract.
USGS says it will take about 10 years to do a basic aquifer study for the whole county,
and so the cost of the program would be spread out over that length of tame. They estimate
$100,000 to $150,000 per aquifer. If we look at valley fill there is Six Mile, Cascadilla and Fall
Creek, and Fall Creek is probably close to the biggest one in the County, so we would have
been looking at a bigger cost, though that would be shared with the Town of Ithaca if it were
County - wide. Cl Grantham will try to talk to the Town of Ithaca about sharing that and
expects it would be spread over several years. Supv Varvay anis said the Town of Ithaca is
interested, but they don't have any money in the budget this year, and Caroline may have
around $10,000. USGS has around $30,000 for this year but doesn't have the personnel to
make the time commitment, so they will probably commit about $5,000 this year and perhaps
do some really preliminary work this summer. Most of the work would start happening next
year.
Cl Michaels asked if we could do an aquifer study that would have much meaning
without getting other Towns involved. Cl Grantham said we should have the Town of Ithaca
involved in the Fall Creek one, but we could get: a lot of information about: the vulnerability of
the aquifers to contamination and the extent of it within Dryden and the estimated volume
within Dryden. The bedrock sources are harder to study because the water is contained in
fractures in the rock and they are practically impossible to map. Cl Grantham wants to talk to
them about it because there are a lot of people on the hills (Genung Circle, Snyder Hill Road,
Ellis Heights) have water problems in dry years and those are also not the greatest soils for
sept:ics.
Cl Grantham would like permission to start a dialog with USGS about what they could
do for the Town and how much it would cost, and also to talk with Ithaca and Caroline about.
sharing. There needs to be a contract in the next: couple of months to lock in the cost share
rage, and if the Town does that. and commits to spend the money over three years, the
length of the contract could be extended next year to five years. Atty Perkins said we should
bear in mind that if the Town of Dryden, Town of Caroline or Town of Ithaca decide to go it
alone, that may well be the end of involvement by the County. They may want the data but
won't be willing to help pay for it. Supv Varvayanis said he realizes that, and asked M
Robertson if there had been any conversations at the County level. She said they had had one
planning committee meeting, and they were hoping this year to go to the different Towns and
get a better sense of who would like to be involved. Cl Grantham suggested that the County
come to the discussions with USGS and plan the cost year for these aquifers (Caroline and is
Dryden and possibly Ithaca) for next year.
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Cl Grantham has submitted an application to the Department of Environrnen al
Conservation for funding for some of the Cayuga Lake Watershed Intermumcipal Organizatio -o
work. The application iti for a little over $400,000 in funding and there is around $130,000 in
mal'ch which is basically in kind from the participants. Because Cl Grantham is the chair of
the 10 now that means that Dryden is the fiscal agent for the organization so there is a trust
and agency account with The First National Bank of Dryden and so there will be money going
its and out of that account, and ill will be in the general bills portion of the abstract each
month.
There was wme material distributed to the Board from Rachel Davis regarding the dog
bite incident on Quarry load and the SPCA- Cl Grantham has been talldng with her about the
I and has agreed to get a meeting set up with Ms Davis and the SPCA regarding some
Procedures that Ms Davis would like to see changed. Ms Davis has aka contacted Martha
Robertson and Dan Winch. Cl Grantham will contact A4x- Winch regarding attending the
meeting with the SPCA.
The Space / Facilities Needs Study for the Town Ball huz� been received and was
distributed to Board mcmbers. An electronic version will also be obtained. C1 Grantham will
write an RFP for building design.
Cl Grantham has spoken with C1 Steb ck abou Il adding a resident from the other end of
Town to (be ambulance committee and Supv Varvayanis has spoken with Dan Hartman on
Quarry Road and he has agreed to do that. Supv Varvayanis proposed that the ambulance
committee be combined with the RTe committee mittee and far a general emergency services
r-on uiittee. Cl Stelick and Cl ] ZEcha.els support that idea and Cl Michaels said he thought all
the departments would benefit from *Dzue fozznal coordination. Applications will be sent to Dan
Hartman and Brian Wilbur- The committee will consist of Cl Stelick, Supv Varvayanis,
citizens, the ambulance chief, and afire chief.
Jack Binh reported that he had had a complaint again, about rmud on Quarry load and
Paolaugeh's trucks were driving in and out there- He has spoken with Mike Paolangeh who has
assured us that he will keep track of the situation.
upv Varvayanis explained that some time in the eighteen sixties someone named
McArthur made a small endowmf nt to benefit area schools. The endowment never grew large
and the interest is given annuaUv to the Dryder School District and the George Junior
Republic,
RESOLUTION #88 - DISBURSE McARTHUR FUND INTEREST
Cl Gran tha.m offered the following resolution and asked for its adoption,
RESOLVED. that this Town Board hereby authorizes the disbursement of $66.87 to
Dryden Central School and $4-27 to the George Junior Republic from the McArthur Fund
representing interest for 2001 (total $71.14) -
2,,d Cl Michaels
Roll Call Vote Cl 8tchck Yes
upv Varvayards Yes
Gl Michaels Yes
G1 Grantham Yes
Dave PI-Itnam distributed a report on the Virgil Creek Stabilization Project
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Heniry Slater, Dave Herrick and Dave Putnam met wild Doug DeXoskie, a representative of
Rives Solutiori% to look at the project and go over it. He agreed that it was a viable natural
stream bank stabilization project. ' Ehere is a problem with the time line for design and getting
the project done in one year. There art two possible approaches to that- .Mr. DeKoski works
for Greene County and does tbz4,4 on the side. Greene County is a leader in natural stream,
bank stabilization in the east. In Greene County they Have a nationwide permit t'bey get their
projects bLdl t under. Air De Koski is mi hopes of doing that here and we can reduce the
permitting period from around 100 days to arc Lind ,30 days so the project can be completed in
one year. If we can't get it done in one }Fear, and if SEMO will allow it, he is propab-i that we
i5tabiliz�e die bank where it iii and use material that can be reused m the natural project the
fallowing year. +lore information will be avaiJoble next week regardit g M
the details- The ate
Historic Preservation Office has signed off on the project and Fish & Witdtife say there are no
endangered species in the creek. SEAR has to be done and D Putnam suggests we do a
coordinated review. It is an urilisted action and the Tawas should gas through Part I, then
declare the Town lead agency and send it off to the involved agencies, Fish & Wildlilfe, DEC,
Corp of tzigineers, SEMO and Tompldns County-
The Board briefly reviewed the Full Envirou mental Assessment Form prepared with
respect to the Virgil Creek Stabilization Project. After the Board declares lead agency status
there is a. 30=doy comment period, and it can he acted on at The sec.€ }rid board meedng next
month. Atty Perkins asked irwe needed to comply with the National Environmental Protec6an
Act. T) Putnam said. if there is a Mate Environmental Study done }POLL d{m'ti need to do a
Federal one, and said the Town did not have to comply with the National Environmental
.Protection Act because the State is mastering this for FEMA-
O Slater stated he had a conversation today with the Amy Carps of Engineers today
and was advised that they would do whatever they could to rush the permits through in 30
clays- 71-iey represent Fish & Wildlife as well as DEC inn the permitting process.
RESOLUTION #89 - DECLARE LEAD AGENCY STATUS -
VIRG<IL CREEK STABILIZATION PROJECT
1 Grantham offered the following resolution and asked for its adoption:
RESOLVED, that this Town Board hereby declares lead agency status in the Virgil
Greek Stabilization Project, and the caning Officer shaft distribute copies of the Full
Environmental Assessment Farm to involved agencies.
2nd 1 Michaels
Roll Call Note Cl Stelick Yes
Supv VarvaL ariiis Yes
Cl Michaels Yes
Cl Grantham Yes
Supv arvayams a €plain-ed that County funding for the Mouth C urn mi sion will be $900
less than they had been anticipating. The Town has always matched what the Bounty did.
Last year the County came up with more money and the Town increased its funding- `['.he
hoard discussed whether to decrease its share of f mdi ng this year in keeping with current
policy, or to leave the auoaouni: the same as budgeted. Supv Varvayanis stated That as Atty
Perkins has poiinted out in the past, one you break the dollar for dollar deal with the County, it
could present difficulties in the future. After discussuon, the board decided to also reduce it'
funding by $900,00-
RESOLUTION 490 - REDUCE YOUTH COMMISSION FUNDINGr
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3upv Varvaatiis
RESOLVED, that
Cormaission by $900 for
appropriated ley Tompkii
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offered the following resolution aT�d asked for its adoption:
this To-tom Board hereby reduces the amount budgeted for the Youth
the year 2002 in keeping with its pahey of matching t1ie funds
is County for that purpose -
Roll Call Mote Cl Stelick Yes
Supv Varvayams Yes
CI N icha►els Yes
C.1 G- rantham Yes
Supv V arvayan s rioted there is a vacant seat an the Youth Co m ssian and asked
board members to try and Iocate a volunteer for the position.
On motion made, seconded and unanimously carried, the meeting was adjourned at
9.37 p.m,
Respectfully submitted,
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Pa,ibi L. Hollenbeck
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