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TOWN OF DRYDEN
® TOWN BOARD MEETING
APRIL 13, 1999
Supv
Schug opened the Town Board
Meeting at 7:30
p.m. Members and guests
participated
in a moment of silence followed
by the pledge of
allegiance.
Roll call by Town Clerk Bambi L. Hollenbeck proved the following in attendance: Cl
Ronald Beck, Cl Thomas Hatfield, Cl Charles Hatfield, Cl Deb Grantham, Supervisor James
Schug and Attorney Mahlon Perkins.
Supv Schug explained that: we have a special resolution and asked Cl T Hatfield to read
it. CI T Hatfield asked Donald and Sue Gilbert to come forward.
RESOLUTION #100 - HONOR DONALD GILBERT
Councilperson Thomas Hatfield offered the following resolution and asked for its
adoption:
WHEREAS, DONALD GILBERT has announced his retirement as Highway
Superintendent for the Town of Dryden, and
WHEREAS, DONALD GILBERT has in various capacities worked for the Town since his
graduation from high school in 1967 except for two tours of duties in Viet Nam while a member
of the U.S. Navy Seabees, and
WHEREAS, DONALD GILBERT has held virtually all positions in the Town's highway
department including laborer, MEO, and Deputy Superintendent of Highways, and
WHEREAS, the electors of the To�tin-i have five times elected him as the Town Highway
Superintendent most recently in 1997, and
WHEREAS, through his experience, guidance and knowledge he has served the Town
and its residents in the position of Superintendent of Highways, now, therefore,
ICE IT RESOLVED by the Town Board of the Town of Dryden that the Town Board
hereby extends a sincere and heartfelt thank you to DONALD GILBERT for his many years of
service to the Town in all his various capacities, and
FURTHER RESOLVED that the Town Board encourages all residents of the Town of
Dryden to join with the Town Board in extending its best wishes to DONALD GILBERT in his
retirement and all future endeavors.
Seconded Councilperson Ronald Beck
Roll Call Vote
Cl Deck
Cl T Hatfield
C1 C Hatfield
Cl Grantham
Yes
Yes
Yes
Yes
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Cl T Hatfield presented Don Gilbert with a framed certified copy of the resolution and
Supv Schug presented him with a plaque which read "Presented to Donald Gilbert by the Town
of Dryden in grateful recognition of 30 years of service to the Town and its residents as an
employee and Superintendent of Highways, 1967 to 1999.
PUBLIC HEARING
AAA CLEANING - JAMES BROWN
Supv Schug explained that James Brown has purchased and would like to move his
business into the old Chas. E. Shew building on Route 366.
James Brol,vn - They are a Servicemaster franchise now, still known as AAA Cleaning.
They specialize in disaster restoration such as fire and water damage, flood damage, etc in
peoples homes and businesses. Having this property to work from will eliminate the necessity
of having to move items from peoples homes into storage for cleaning. It: will provide them
plenty of space to work in. They do carpet, upholstery and drapery cleaning. Most of it is done
in peoples homes. They would like to do more oriental rug cleaning and that would be possible
in this building since it provides plenty of room for drying the rugs. Customers would drop off
the rugs and pick them up when they were done. Oriental rugs are a specialty and need to be
treated delicately. They been in this business for six years.
Supv Schug inquired if there were any questions from board members or the audience.
D
Weinstein, 51
Freese Road
- Inquired whether there were any chemicals used on the
premises
and if so, how
will they be
disposed of.
J Brown - They clean using a hot water extraction system. The water is then dumped
into the sewage system.
Supv Schug -
They are
presently located in the City of Ithaca, so the sewage is going to
the same plant. The
applicant:
has supplied a list
of all chemicals used.
ZO Slater - He has 29 MSDS data sheets on various products. They are all OSHA
approved and SARA approved, which is an agency that tests for chemical contents and toxicity.
They are acceptable. The strongest product used by the applicant would be ordinary
household bleach.
J Brown - We also have a site at the Tompkins County Landfill where we are allowed to
dump our wastewater collections. Wastewater is collected in their truck and that provides a
convenient drop off before they get back to their office. Most of the work will be done away
from the office, on site, with the exception of oriental rugs, which they world prefer to do at the
Dryden Road address.
Cl Grantham - Asked ZO Slater if he had checked over the data sheets and made sure
that the chemicals are legal and are ones that can put into the municipal sewage system
legally.
ZO Slater - None of them show any hazard in terms of a chemical content. None of
them have any flammability beyond minimum. They are OSHA acceptable and
environmentally non - hazardous, biogra.dable.
Cl Grantham - They are allowed in the municipal sewage system;'
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ZO Slater - To the best of my knowledge they are. They are apparently putting them in
in Ithaca, in the same system.
J Brown - The things you would each find under your kitchen sinks are more
hazardous than what we are using. Liquid Gold that you use on your furniture is actually
more hazardous than pesticides which are used for roaches.
Helen bang, 1121 Dryden Road - Do any of the processes that you use generate any
significant kind of odors, and if so, will they be vented from the building with any kind of
filtration system?
J Brown -There is no filtration system in the building, except: fans. The slight odor
with any cleaning chemical like our carpet cleaner is minimal. It smells kind of like banana.
It is barely noticable to the technicians using it.
Adam Regenhogen, 9 Oakbrook Drive - At this point you are only planning to use the
Shew building, no other buildings on the lot?
.,J Brown - I think we have all of that sold now, and the trailers have been sold. All I
need is this building.
Judy Taylor, 61 turkey Hill Road - What do you use to clean carpets?
J Brown -Anything with a medium to low ph, close to neutral. Oriental rugs
chemically bum easily and the higher the ph, the more it makes the colors run. I don't really
understand exactly how chemicals clean, but I do understand ph balanced cleaning. You don't
have to use horribly nasty chemicals.
isCl Grantham - You talk about adding 20 to 30 vehicles per day to local traffic. Is that
your own or customers?
J Brown - We only have three vehicles. We would like to have 10 to 15 or 20 people
drop off oriental rugs every day. I added that consideration to our vehicles and that is how I
came up with the figure.
Cl Grantham - You state that you are in compliance with all state and federal
regulations concerning employees, what are those regulations?
J Brown - We provide workmens compensation and pay all of their taxes including
social security. We have disability insurance for them. Even if they get hurt at home they are
covered.
Cl Grantham - What kind of regulations are specific to your business? Are there any
discharge permits or anything like that:?
J Brown - No, we don't need anything like that.
Supv Schug - A neighbor of yours, Jack Ford, has had an ongoing situation with prior
owners of the buildings. Mostly because they had big cardboxes in the back of the building. It
made a mess. But of course; you'll have a dumpster.
J Brown - No, we're not, We have spent hundreds of dollars in man hours just to clean
up the place. It looks nice and clean and kept up. We don't need a dumpster. We take our
® trash two or three times a week by truck to the landfill. We have trash cans and we plan to
keep it looking nice.
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Supv Schug - I ask that you go over with Henry where you park your trucks so that you
do not block Mr. Ford's driveway. 0
ZO Slater - He has a driveway that you are not aware of. It's on your property.
J Brown
- Okay,
we don't mind.
We're very neighbor friendly and as far as I know, I
think I probably
We have plenty of parking spaces. We
share
a
d.rive%,%Tay
with
someone else.
ZO Slater - It goes back to before Oakbrook Drive existed. Those houses had
easements and such.
Supv Schug - We just want you to be aware of this.
J
Brown - if we are
in the way,
,just:
let us know.
We have plenty of parking spaces. We
have
two
small
trucks
and
one normal
size
trick.
ZO Slater - u?ill meet with J Brown tomorrow to discuss parking.
At 7:55 p.m. Supv Schug inquired if there were any questions of the audience. There
were none and the public hearing was closed.
PUBLIC HEARING
LIVERMORE'S AUTO PARTS
Supv Schug opened the public hearing at 7:56 p.m. He explained that Jocy Livermore
would like to open an auto parts store at 2.171 Dryden Road, in the building presently owned •
by Scott Adams (formerly Gene Rotunda's property). A month ago the Town allowed Scottie's
Automotive to set up shop at. this address. The well drilling rig has been there working and the
neighbors are happy with that.
J Livermore - I will be in the part of the building where Frontier Cellular used to be. It
will basically be a wholesale auto parts store for the local garages and surrounding area. I will
stock and sell the most popular things like alternators, starters, radiators, ev shafts, etc. I will
be delivering these to garages. I don't expect much walk in traffic.
Supv Schug - I was led to believe you were dealing with radiators and you were going to
pick up used radiators to be re- cored. You will be doing no repairs on site, is that correct?
J Livermore - Not at this time.
Supv Schug - You realize you'll have to come back before you do that. You are not
going to be dumping radiators full of antifreeze in the back yard or whatever.
J Livermore - No any cores that are brought back in should be empty. If there was a
small amount, I would take care of it and send it off to be recycled. Any cores that: are left will
be disposed of through Ted Hill, who takes care of Scottie's old auto parts that are left over and
scrap metal.
Supv Schug - So you'll be doing more than just radiators?
J Livermore -Yes, I'll be selling radiators, alternators, starters, and other things.
Supv Schug - The biggest thing with radiators is the Quids. 0
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J Livermore - Usually by the time they get it taken out of the car and to me, its empty.
Supv Schug - OK. Before you start repairing or doing machine shop work or whatever,
you need to came back and talk to us about that.
J
Livermore -
Just for
your
information,
there are
no special regulations for repairing or
re- coring
a radiator.
Not like
there
is to open a
garage or
repair facility.
Supv Schug - You do need to talk with us.
J Livermore - Right, but there are no state regulations.
Anthony Hamilton - I know you said that there is not going to be a lot of traffic, but how
much is ghat.
J Livermore -1 1.vill probably be receiving deliveries from UPS once or twice a week. I
%vill be picking up from several distributors rather than having them deliver. There will be an
occasional walk in customer, but that's hard to predict at this time.
Supv Schug - If you are out making deliveries and aren't there, it will be locked up?
J Livermore - Yes.
Supv Schug explained to Mr. Livermore that the state will be working on Route 13 and
it may make entering and existing the premises difficult.
® Supv Schug - Inquired if there were other questions. There were none and the hearing
was closed at 8:10 p.m.
The Board reviewed and accepted the short form environmental assessment form in
connection with the application for a special permit by James Brown (AAA Cleaning) and
determined there would be no adverse environmental impact (EAF retained in Zoning Office
file) .
RESOLUTION #101 - SEQR NEGATIVE DECLARATION - J BROWN
Cl C Hatfield offered the following resolution and asked for its adoption:
RI SOLES D4. that this Town Board issue a negative declaration based on the SEQR
review for James Brown's (AAA Cleaning) special permit application. This is an unlisted action
and the Town of Dryden is the lead agency in uncoordinated review. The supervisor is
authorized to sign all necessary documents.
2,1d Cl T Hatfield
Roll Call Vote C1 Beck Yes
Cl T Hatfield Yes
Cl C Hatfield Yes
Cl Grantham Yes
The Board discussed hours in connection with Mr. Bro%km's special permit. It was
decided that business hours would be 9 a.m. to b p.m. Monday through Friday and Saturdays
® by appointment. There will be no trash stored outside the building.
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RESOLUTION #102 - GRANT JAMES BROWN SPECIAL PERMIT
Cl T Hatfield offered the following resolution and asked for its adoption:
RESOLVED, that this Toum Board approve the special permit application of James
Brown to operate a cleaning business at 1131 Dryden Road in the Town of Dryden, subject to
the following:
(1) Standard Conditions of Approval (9 -9 -98) shall apply;
(2) Hours of operation shall be 9:00 a.m. to 6:00 p.m. Monday through Friday and
Saturdays by appointment;
(3) No outside storage of trash.
211d Cl Beck
Roll Call Vote Cl Beck Yes
Cl T Hatfield Yes
Cl C Hatfield Yes
Cl Grantham Yes
The Board reviewed and accepted the short form environmental assessment form in
connection with the application for a special permit by Joey Livermore and determined there
would be no adverse environmental impact (EAF retained in Zoning Office file).
RESOLUTION # 103 - SEQR NEGATIVE DECLARATION - J LIVERMORE
Cl C Hatfield offered the following resolution and asked for its adoption:
RESOLVED, that this Town Board issue a negative declaration based on the SEQR
review for Joey Livermore's ( Livermore's Auto Parts) special permit application. This is an
unlisted action and the Town of Dryden is the lead agency in uncoordinated review. The
supervisor is authorized to sign all necessary documents.
21„1 Cl T Hatfield
Roll Call Vote Cl Beck Yes
Cl T Hatfield Yes
C1 C Hatfield Yes
Cl Grantham Yes
Parking for J Livermore's auto parts supply business ums discussed. Three parking
spaces are allowed for in the plan, although a. wholesale distributor is only required to have one
for every two employees. Three were allowed for to accommodate occasional salesman or uralk-
in customers. There is enough space for Scottie to have 20 vehicles comfortably for his
business and stall leave three for J Livermore's business. A plan was submitted for the board
to review.
RESOLUTION # 104 - GRANT JOEY LIVERMORE SPECIAL PERMIT
Cl C Hatfield offered the following resolution and asked for its adoption:
RESOLVED, that this Town Board approve the special permit application of Joey
Livermore to operate a auto parts business at 2171 Dryden Road in the Town of Dryden,
subject to the following:
(1) Standard Conditions of Approval (9 -9 -98) shall apply; is
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(2) Hours of operation shall be 8:00 a.m. to 5:00 p.m. Monday through Friday and
8:00 a.m. to 12:00 noon on Saturdays;
(3) No outside storage of trash.
21 *1d Cl Grantham
Roll Call Vote CI Beck Yes
Cl T Hatfield Yes
Cl C Hatfield Yes
Cl Grantham Yes
On motion of Cl Grantham, seconded by Cl C Hatfield, and unanimously carried, the
minutes of the March 16, 1999 meeting were approved.
CITIZENS PRIVILEGE OF THE FLOOR
Supv Schug stated that several people in the audience were here to discuss the NESTS
program and Ellis Hollow Road and introduced Ward Hungerford of the Tompkins County
Highway Department,,
W Hungerford - We began updating Ellis Hollow Road last summer, in 1998. We got
rather involved in the upgrading and relocation of the section of Ellis Hollow Road from about
East Hill Plaza to Fox Hollow Road, which was our plan for 1998. We did a lot of drainage work
there, some sections of storm sewer. We have sectionalized some of the sub - base, we upgraded
that. We replaced, recycled the outside of the pavement and toward t:he end put down some
hot mix concrete binder and followed that up with some shoulder work with the idea that we
would be back in June 1999 to finish up the road. We need to put down another inch and a
half overlay, which is the wearing surface, and pave the shoulders. We have some landscaping
to take care of along the roadside which we are not clear on _yet. We want: to soften the sterile
look through there. We feel pretty good about that: section. At the meeting in Ellis Hollow last
October we talked about Phase IT of the project, which would be to build Ellis Hollow Road from
Fox Hollow Road to Turkey Hill in 1999, and then complete the section up to Thomas Road in
the year 2000. That was our plan until a while ago. I had intended to have a plan for the
people in Ellis Hollow to review some time in February and didn't meet that deadline. I
attended the NESTS meeting held at Dewitt Middle School in March and left that meeting
thinking that maybe Ellis Hollow Road should wait until the NESTS study was completed. It is
important that we not get ahead of the NESTS group because it is looking at alternate
transportation, mass transit and some other things. 1 thought it was constructive to get
behind the NESTS organization so that anything we did would be compatible with the NESTS
study which is hopefully promoting the betterment of the community and transit in the north
east area. Consequently I have proposed to our public works committee that we delay our
efforts on the next section of .Ellis Hollow Road until 2000.
We know that the road is in rough shape when you drive it. We know that we are going
to have to do some limited maintenance this year. Potholes are being patched now. We don't
want to invest a lot now, knowing that we are going to have to get: in there in a substantial way
in the next year or two. I know there has been a lot of discussion about shoulder width and
traffic calming. There is a broad range of ideas of what traffic calming is really about. Our goal
is to make sure the roadway we provide is safe and that it will provide a level of service for the
community as well as the traveling public at large in the next ten or fifteen years.
Supv Schug - introduced Martha Robertson, explaining that she and others with her
had some questions for Mr. Hungerford.
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Peggy Walbridge - inquired if the committee had accepted Mr. Hungerford's
recommendation to postpone vvork on Ellis Hollow Road.
W Hungerford - Yes the main reconstruction work has been accepted by the committee.
I have assured them that unless something changes as far as the traffic and use of the road,
the road will be fine for a year or two. There are some things we will be doing as regular
maintenance. No major work will be done on the road without notification of the residents.
There are two or three sections of the road where the pavement has deteriorated very badly and
that will be taken care of. It won't be a permanent fix, but it will be okay for a few years.
Martha Robertson, 1655 Ellis I•Iollow Road - With respect to the shoulder, it seems
there have been a lot of studies about the width of highways being perceived all the way to the
paved edge, rather than the white line. Has heard about a variety of shoulder paving materials
that to the driver look as though it is an unpaved surface and therefore, gives a feeling of a
narrower road and yet for a biker or jogger it is a smooth, hard surface. There is also
something where the shoulders may be graded or scored. Has that kind of thing been
considered? For example, the section of Ellis Hollow Road ghat: goes down toward the church
has a smooth paved surface all the way to the edge and you get a feeling in that area that you
can speed up because it feels like a much wider road. A bunch of us have wondered if when
you do t:he shoulders you can keep the appearance of a rough shoulder. Specifically, the
section from East Hill Plaza to Fox Hollow,
W Hungerford - That shoulder has an asphalt stabilized gravel surface. That. is a strong
product, but does not provide a lasting smooth surface. That will pothole and peck away. That
is the permanent bottom part. We 'will put a top on it. What you are saying about
differentiating between the driving lane and shoulder is something that we are looking at.
There are a lot of ideas out there and one of the things that the l)Cil' is doing and one of the
things that we are going to do this year, is put a wider edge line down. Typically, the lines are •
four inches wide and they are e.,xperimenting with six inches tide and in some instances eight
inches wide. That really breaks up the sense that it is all driving lane. We have also talked
about some kind of chip seal on the shoulder, but we find bikers tend to avoid that rougher
surface.
M Robertson - Can you use coloration? From the driving point of view, color can make
a difference.
W Hungerford - Has only recently heard of color differential and is not sure how well
they hold up and whether they wear off.
Supv Schug - Suggested that pictures of bikers and pedestrians could be painted on
the shoulder when the lanes are striped. That would be a signal to cars to stay off it.
W Hungertord - There are also some diamond markings out that silp3al a shared use
area. It is not very expensive to sign it that way and put the markings down.
M Robertson - Thanked Mr. Hungerford for waiting until the NESTS project is sorted
out. Hopes that he will try to gather the community in the future when plans are being made
for roadwork.
W Hungerford - We are really trying to continue doing, that and the more we do it the
better we like it. It saves us time in the long run. We'd rather have you on our side to start
with. It is a relatively new process and I think it is going well. We've had a couple of these
public information meetings for a couple of road projects that are underway now, Triphammer
Road and some work in the McLean area. We really went: after public notice in the newspapers
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and radio. We will probably make it as noticeable as possible, even putting signs along the
road to try and publicize it.
D Weinstein, 51 Freese .Road - Can you explain the thinking that is behind feeling; that
the shoulders need to be widened?
W Hungcrford - In 1991 the Federal government passed this multi- million dollar bill to
funnel money throughout: the United States. The bill was dubbed ISTE& which stands for
Inter -modal Surface Transportation Efficiency Act. One very large feature of that is bicycle and
pedestrian enhancements. Most of our county roads don't provide much of a shoulder for
bicycles. For the most part we provide only gravel shoulders, because we're rural and the
demand has not previously been there. We are trying to respond to this inter -modal concept.
They are more cost efficient because once they are built and down, they require less
maintenance. It provides a safer mode of transportation when people decide they want to walk
or jog or ride a bicycle.
Chris Easton, Varna Fire Chief - Concerned with the curves around 1637 to 1672 Ellis
Hollow Road. They tend to collect water on the road surface and there have been several cars in
the ditch over the winter. Can that be dealt with over the summer, or is that something that
will need to wait.
W Hungerford - Feels that it is bad enough right now that they can do something over
the summer to kind of smooth it out. I don't: think we can do anything with the curvature of
the road, but we can make it safer by providing a smoother surface there so people don't bump
off the road. There is a real obvious frost heave out there now and rideability is pretty poor.
That is one section through those three curves that you mentioned, where something needs to
be done this summer because it has reached the point where it is hard to turn away from it.. It
® will only get worse.
Nick Bellasario, 1172 Ellis Hollow Road - Can something be done about the driveways
that divert water into the roadway. From Game Farm Road to Turkey Hill Road it is real bad.
W Hungerford - That section will be a challenge. Our goal would be to turn the water
before it can get to the roadway. A lot of times you'll see where water from a high driveway is
constantly soaking; on the pavement, and that deteriorates the pavement. We would like to get
a uniform shoulder through there and get the water off the pavement. Some of the slopes are
hard to deal with.
Nick Bellasario -The south lane in particular is worse. People who have just washed
their car will avoid driving in that lane.
W Hungerford - That is a problem and something that we will pick up in design.
Judy Taylor, 61 Turkey Hill Road - Water also runs from driveways onto Thomas Road
in several places and freezes.
W Hungerford - Sometimes we can take our grader up and try to coax that water to run
into a ditch before it gets to the road. In many cases the water just can't get off. We can take a
look at that.
Supv Schug - Inquired about the status of Came Farm Road.
0 W Hungerford - Fernando is probably the one to talk to, but it is not on the list.
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Supv Schug - I think we should still do something there. I understand you are going
out tomorrow to Lake Road to see the Rumseys. I was out there this morning. That creek is
turning in by the guard rail. 0
W Hungerford - We have a real stability problem there.
Supv Schug - Well help you out in any way we can. You guys should see if you can get
back in that stream and straighten it out.
W Hungerford - It is turning out to be a pretty big deal, For some reason it carries over
to the Corps of Engineers. That is what the DEC has told us. That really gets involved and
somehow we have to try and shake it along because we are fast approaching the point where
we are really going to have a significant problem if we don't do something.
Supv Schug - Well loose the road or kill somebody.
W Hungerford - I have talked with Jack about trying to come up with a borrow area so
we have some fill near at hand so that when we get the ok to go in there we can do it quickly.
Supv Schug - 1 think it is worth the effort even if you have to go to the Corps. It is an
intermittent trout stream and that means you are limited to the times of year you can work in
the stream. NYSEG has been down there and put gas lines in so you can get down in the area.
W Hungerford - Last year we wanted to put a dozer in there and weren't able to do it.
Supv Schug - Thanked Mr. Hungerford for coming.
W Hungerford - Reminded the public that they do welcome phone calls.
Chuck Geisler, 517 Ellis Hollow Creek Road - Attended a meeting in Ellis Hollow five
months ago regarding the NESTS study. A citizens group has been working long and hard and
considering these various corridors coming basically north -south down from the Route 34 area
trying to get commuter traffic and truck traffic down to Route 79 and farther south. People
from Ellis Hollow were relieved to find out that the Ellis Hollow corridor and presumably Ellis
Hollow Creek Road as well, were no longer under consideration as a part of this corridor
system. Although the road is not coming their way, the citizens of Ellis Hollow view this is a
very significant issue for the County as a whole and now that the whole process of making
tentative recommendations has gotten to the state where they are going to be making final
recommendations to the next level and .finally to the County transportation people, they are
feeling that it is ever more important that the Towns, neighborhoods, and all the significant
players in this reconfiguring of our transportation system in the County really pay attention
and talk to each other. The consequences need to be investigated and we could come up with
some unique solutions. In the event that the transportation suggestions that there be a by -way
or a beltway going east of Ithaca and circling around and coming down through the East Hill
Plaza area and connecting with 79 comes to be, then will be a lot of intense interest. The
Towns of Dryden and Lansing will be the eye of the storm and you will want to be well informed
on this issue. (Map displayed for public to see route of possible new roadways) Believes the
Town will be approached by the County if these recommendations go up in the affirmative, that
not only there be a greatly enhanced traffic calming and public transportation (probably bus)
saturation strategy, but also strong consideration of rights of way so that in 5 to 15 years a
corridor can be put in place if the public transportation isn't adequate. You will be asked to
ratify that so that in the event that there is an environmental impact assessment because of
the federal funds that are coming to make this possible, that that will all be much easier to do.
He urges us to ask questions about whether or not the recommendations for public
transportation and this corridor are actually at cross - purposes with each other. Ask whether
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or not there has been an origin and destination study and whether or not these
recommendations are based on it. Finally, ask whether we would be talking at all about this
corridor around Ithaca and through the west side of the Town of Dryden if it wasn't federally
subsidized. It is not coming out of local tax dollars it is coming out of federal dollars.
M Robertson - presented structure of NESTS Group (North East Subarea
Transportation Study). Feels one of the reasons people in the Town of Dryden didn't pay any
attention was because it was called "North East ". The group has learned about such things as
"induced traffic" where you build a road because you think the roads we have are too
congested. What actually happens is induced traffic. People are more likely to travel the
quicker route, they move farther away and eventually people are driving twice as far as they did
before. You create induced traffic and the new roads fill up in five years. Passed out a study
which studied seventy communities for a period of fifteen years and documented the induced
traffic phenomenon. This proposed road now may look great to a traffic engineer, but if we
spend millions of dollars on it, it is an irreversible thing. hive years from now it will be full of
tralhc and we will have an even bigger problem. We have been educating ourselves about this
over the past few months. There is a petition being circulated throughout the County. We
have about 300 signatures so far, better than half of thew are from the Town of Dryden. The
Town of Dryden is at risk here because the huge majority of this road will be within the Town
of Dryden. As residents we are concerned. The working group will be presenting its report to
the next committee the 13U, of May. At some point after that Fernando deAragon will be
coming here to get your endorsement. We are here in advance of them so that you can think
about the questions we have raised.
Supv Schug - We are part of this, and we are kept tuned in to what they are trying to
do. We tried to get people in different areas interested in being on the working group. We tried
real hard to get someone from the Varna area, Ellis Hollow, and the only person that has put in
a lot of time and efTort is Barb Caldwell. She is here every third Thursday with our Planning
Board. She is very open and above board and we have talked about this. If it is the best thing
for the County and the only thing we can do, they have to convince us of that fact. Twenty five
years ago the Town of Ithaca had access from Route 79 to Route 366 and they had it blocked
out and ready for a road. A contractor asked to build houses where they had this moratorium
(Pine `tree Road) and the town let them. Now they are trying to fix that road situation for the
residents. There is a lot of traffic there. I don't think they have picked a route yet for this
proposed road.
M Robertson - They have chosen wide
areas at this point.
We need to understand that
this will be a
limited access highway and that
means at least two
large bridges over creeks and
probably six
or more overpasses over existing
roads. It will really
change the landscape and
our question
is at what price. What is the benefit? It doesn't match the possibility of saving
five minutes
in travel time.
Supv Schug - Before they make their final recommendations, we can have some
meetings of our own and talk about where in Dryden they propose to do it, how* it would impact
our different neighborhoods. Now that you are all aware of it and everyone is gunned up and
wants to talk about it, let's do it. The only thing I ask is don't do a petition opposed to doing
something until you know what they are going to do. I not convinced there is money for a
project like this or if there is that much of a need. Hopefully they have done some destination
studies.
M Robertson - The last destination is seven years old.
Susan Ashdown, 12 Forest Lane - They were studying the numbers of cars going
through intersection of Piste Tree Road and the numbers turning left and right. They were
studying speeds of cars at different times at different places along the road. They have a
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computer model that they used to come up with the idea of this road. Part of that computer
model is from the seven year old destination study. My question is how many more students .
and cars on the Cornell Campus. The whole landscape has changed in seven years. That:
study is no longer useful.
Supv $chug - We should find out, but I was under the impression that they had
students passing out cards to people at all the entrances coming into Tompkins County from
up north and where they were going and they gave the drivers a card to complete and fill out.
M Robertson - Fernando has indicated the last study was done six or seven years ago.
Supv Schug - We can find out.
P Walbridge
- If there is one, it is not available to
the public.
The committee is saying
they have not done
error.
one. If they have done one and they
have not let
people know, they are in
Supv $chug - There is nothing that is not available to the public.
D Putnam - The study that was done by the County was a county wide study it was not
specific to these areas. It was traffic coming into the County. They wanted to find out where
the traffic was coming from and where it was going. Here, most of this traffic is inner- county
traffic which would not have been counted in that study. A destination for these routes would
have to be done on these routes and it wasn't.
M Robertson - If what the traffic congestion really requires is only a little shunt here
and there or a connector, they don't know that at this point. They are assuming that they need
this huge new road. Our petition is opposed to concept of the road because we feel that the
other proposals from the working group are really very progressive, a lot of new things that
haven't been proposed before. We feel that if they have the road on the table at all it will
sabotage the success of mass transit. Dwight: Mengel, the TCAT staff person on the working
group, said before they voted on it, that they can't do both of these things at once. He was
clearly not comfortable. We feel that even though they are saying their primary
recommendation is for mass transit, we are concerned that the road will take over if they
consider it any further.
Supv Schug - The last time I was at a meeting with the two groups together they were
talking about doing a program geared toward mass transit to begin with. We-1 find out and get
back together again.
Road,
Judy Taylor, 61 Turkey Hill Road - Is concerned about t]ze truck traliic on Turkey Hill
S Ashdown - Putting a corridor in will only increase truck traffic.
P Walbridge - Has been a member of this community since the early seventies and they
were talking about this connector then. It was a bad idea then and it is a bad idea now and it
will be a bad idea in twenty years. It is not a good solution to run traffic that way. There are
other ideas out there and we need to not view the quality of life as a bigger road. They hope
that the Town will consider the other ideas.
Supv Schug - Cornell University has been a driving force between getting this going and
keeping it going. They want to get their people from 79 to 366 and from there to 13. You are
right, and we will take a good look at it. 0
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Jim 3kaley, 940 Dryden .Road - Would like to endorse the other comments that have
been made. They have been worlang really hard revitalizing their community center and the
people in Varna are very uncomfortable vejth having a road running through their back yard. It
needs to be looked at from a broader prospective._ If the County is really going to begun ,salving
some of these transportalaon problems, it realm- has to be looked at as County wide. You can't
carve out a 0hunk-Of landscape and say that this is isolated from the rest of the county and
that what you do here is riot going to innpact something someplace else. One of the things that
has to happen according to the NESTS plan is thaat each of the Towns that sign on are going to
have to look seriously at rezoning issues. It needs to be looked at more c�ooxprehensively.
Destinabon studies need to be dome county wide and not just during the school year_ Bummer
traffic needs to be considered.
upti' Schug - This is the iixst time that it has been done this wuy, with people involved,
not. just politicians and engineers. I felt that the group is really looking carefully at what they
are doing and taking an interest and washing to hear what is being said,
Robertson - She initially felt that the group was responsive to the community, but no
longer believes that to be the case, because at the February meeting the majority of the people
spoke strongly again %t the road. The worldng group took that feedback and revised their
proposal b} strengtheni g their call for the road. Befure the meeting they were sz�iyting mass
transit is the first proposal, and if it doesn't work, we will studv the road_ After the public
meeting and what. they are wriint; up right now is saying 'Nell: we're going to r1q mass transit
but we are going to start right way studying this road. We are goo' M to need i t. eventually.' She
majIntains they are saying now that all t%e negative people show up at meetings, the people in
favor don't tome out. They lave basically taken all of the public input axed said 'We don't
believe it." They were scornful and sarcastic. She does understand that all letters and
petitions will be included as an appendix in the final report.
D Feinstein - There is a lot of confusion in Varna about what lavks like a plan to widen
the section of Porest Home Drive that is in Dryden_ Obviously it is being done in association
with the park, but this has nothing to do with the park. The question is whir do we need the
road wider. It is a mice lane and is easy to travel on a bike. The Ithaca, portion of the Forest
Home community wants speeds reduced anal, are on record as such, a are wondering why it
appears we are going to widen our part_
upv chug -lark Fourxdoiion canoe to us. They are donating land to the Plantations
and 11ney want to have traits on the }sill, There are five large trees at the far end between Ithaca
and where the park gets started, and except for orne dead one, von; agreed that we would leave
them there as long as they weren't dead. dying or creating a hazard to fall on the road, for five
years, The Plantations plazas to take big trees and plank them bank ofr the road, to talre the
place of these trees. For Cave years we'll work around these trees that have been there for a
long time. The reason for paving the road wider in that area is because they want a walkway.
There is no way for handicapped people to get from the one end to the other without having
some additional width there. We are not dig rig the hill c ut or tilting any of it aw fir, We are
only paving it a little bit wider and they are doing all that so that people ca;, get from where
they park down to close to where our pump station is_ They wanted to put a bridge across ax,d
they are going to stripe the road and put. up a sign. It should be a real pleasant area to be
used by everyone.
C1 Grantham - We met with the Park people and the Plantations people and to me it
looked like a good plan. I wish that we didn't have to pave the shoulder, but we. are only paving
it on the One side, They want it to he handicapped accessible, The path comes dawn near
where the pump station is and goes back around to some cormection,9 in the exis*7ri
plantatiuns and they want at least part of that to be wheelchair anti handicapped accessible.
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The only way to do that is to pave that part wide enough so that you can fit a wheelchair va it.
It. is not going to take any of the hillside out. We looked at it really oorefully and the striping
and so on will help- It teemed to me like a good plan,
1] Weinstein - No trees will be taken out an 11he ores side?
Cl Grantham - Some overhanging ones.. but the Plantations people and the highway
{Department worked together. The Plantation,; people said certain trees were valuable and
didn't want them moved, so there was a compromise. They are trying to save -native trees -
Non- native trees are being remove#, and trees that overhang the road are getting at least
trimmed, It hos all been worked out v6ith the Plantations_ and although it was not perfect from
their point of view, I believe they thought it was a gaud compromise, and they looked at every
single tree,
Supv Schug - Trowbridge & Wolfc did a tut of the work and went back to the Park
Foundation for more vnoney fUT more rmes, especiaJ.iy the lazger trees, fur-M -ter up lbe matt
which are really in the road right of way. They are going to replace a lot of those trees, It
should be a nice area,
Marshall Taylor - Is there a specific plait to mash a pedestrian and bike lane on the left
side?
C1 Grantham � It will nave a line, but no physical barrier.
M Taylor - Cornell does have some specialized equdp -rent that would help if you put in
a. phymieal barrier-
1 Grantham - There is erne place where it crosses the road up near where the
plantation ends -now, and that mll be striped as a pedestrian crossway. There will be some
signs in about crosswalk and aidl' curt of thing. It was the best compromise that we could
come up with and it is really the only way that 1 could see to maim it handicapped accessible.
One of ibu other things while we're talldng about this, is the Pottexs property on the
corner of 366 and Forest Home- They will have no privacy between ibeir property and that
park. It will look like one continuous property. They asked whether we could talk to the Park
Paris and Plantations people aa-id see if we get some kind of privacy fencing or screcnit and the
same alcmg the stream bank. There will supposedly be some sort of crosswalk to get to that
little island in the middle of the stream. Is that somethirLg we can pass on and ask them to
address?
upv Schug - Sure. I haven t seen any plans about wghot they intend to do in the creek.
They talked to u:s about the trail, cross the road, anal showed going dawn to the creek,
Cl Grantham - IT ask them to write a Ieaer and explain their concerns,
Karen W estmont. Forest Home Drive, Ithaca - Wanted to let us know that the neighbors
who have been working so hard on the bypass issues have agreed to support the Forest Home
neighbors on trying to do traffic calming, She feels it is an extraordinary effort on the part of
the citL?e of the Tnwn of Dryden, Traffic calming and its definition is certainly an issuer
rl'here are people i;i- Pore st Home who have been specializing in traffic issues now for 30 years
or mare. They are concerned whenever a road is widened that the driver laases their sense of
%7eed. By TeMoVing trees that tend to na-raw a road, a driver is less responsive because there
is less to respond to and therefore a walker or bicyclist is mare at risk. They sre going to have
a. meeting irx their rieighburhuad to sue how much traffic caimitng they can live with and Tows}
of Dryden residents are Coming to back us up-
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10 Supv Schug - If you notice when you drive down Forest Home and get: out of the Dryden
section, the trees in the Ithaca section are way back off the road. The only difference is that
the Ithaca section has grass up to the road and it is all moved and kept very nice, so that if
you are riding a bike or walking and want to get off the road, you could. In the Dryden section
there is no place to go. We don't want it so wide that people are going to speed up. Most
people take it easy through that section.
Peggy Walbridge - Another road concern - Hunt Hill Road. Has begun to pass a petition
among the residents of Hunt Dill Road (21 signature presented to Clerk). The petition states:
"We, the residents of Hunt Hill Road, Town of Dryden, New Fork are concerned about the
proposed road work for Hunt Hill Road this summer. We value the rural character of our
neighborhood and wish to preserve it. We ask the Town Board that only the present road be
resurfaced, rather than other extensive widening plans. We welcome efforts to improve safety.
We ask the Town Board that we (the residents of the community) be part of the decision -
making process on the road work BEFORE it is started." In the tone that Ward Hungerford
said, it is nice to talk to people. We do not want this road widened to make people go faster.
The Highway Department has not: been successful in its efforts in the past in terms of work
they have done. They have made it more dangerous. There are a lot of different concerns and I
think that if you use the expertise of the neighbors, we live there, we. know the road very well, I
think we can be very useful. I will continue to talk to neighbors and try and get the whole road
to sign it. We are very concerned. It is an old road. There are old houses next to it with
beautiful trees. I don't think safety will be enhanced by efforts we understand are going on.
We would like assurances that we. will be part of the decision - making process and I will be
willing to be the point person for the neighborhood and get people together so that you don't
have to contact everybody. I will be responsible to talk to people. There are a lot of things that
are proposed that really aren't in the interest of saline on this road, and we really do want to be
e part of this process. We'd like to get started well in advance of the scheduled work, not a week
before the chainsaws and the ditch diggers show up. We really want to work with you, not
impede efforts, and I think all of us want a better road, a safer road, and if you have the chance
to drive it or walk it slowly, you'll see it's a lovely road, but you do have to be careful on it.
Supv Schug - Acknowledged that it is not a very safe area.
Cl Grantham - Have we ever had a citizen advisory committee for the highway
department?
Supv Schug - No, do you want to put Peggy on a citizens advisory committee for the
highway department?
Cl Grantham -That is what I am considering suggesting.
P Walbridge - Believes there would be a number of people on Ellis Hollow Creek Road
who would be very concerned who have already been "womped" by the Town or the County.
The County has been doing a sort of scorch the earth process on several roads. People are very
concerned as to the quality of their neighborhood, and I think you would easily get people
interested in such a committee as long we don't just talk and the highway department ignores
us.
Supv Schug - Well take that into consideration. Is there a Mrs. Adams here?
Susan Adams, 464 Route 3$, between Freeville & Groton - They qualified for and
received a block grant a couple of years ago. At the time the work was done they did not have a
mortgage on their property. Therefore the lien for the grant is in first position. They are now
looking to get some financing using the equity in their home to start a business and do some
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work on their home. The lenders are not interested in holding a second mortgage and have
asked if the town would be willing to subordinate and take second position. They are looking .
to get about $55,000 (including the town's lien) out of a property assessed at $76,000.
Supv Schug - Explained that we have had this request before and one person who
wanted to do that was able to borrow enough money to pay the town back. Mr. & Mrs. Adams
received a grant, so the only time the town would get any money would be if the home was sold
vvithin ten years.
S Adams - Feels the Town would not be at risk because they would still have equity in
the home.
Cl T Hatfield - Explained that it is in fact a risk, because the only way to protect
yourself in second position is to buy out first, and the Town does not have the funds in the
program at this time.
S Adams -
There was $19,633.$4
worth of work
done on
the house originally.
Currently there is
around $16,000.00
we still
owed should the
house be
sold now.
Supv Schug - Suggested that the Adams borrow enough money to pay the Town off and
then the bank can be in first position. l have told Susan that it. is up to the Hoard to decide
each case separately.
CI Beck inquired if the Adams had approached the bank about borrowing enough to pay
off the Town.
S Adams - They have not because it is a significant chunk of money. Payments on a
$40,0000 mortgage is different than a $56,000 mortgage. Thev are trying to do this as •
economically as they can. Pointed out that if they did nothing at this point: as far as another
mortgage, after seven years they would owe the town nothing because it was a grant.
Cl T Hatfield - It is the Town's job as fiduciary to protect the people's assets and he feels
she should at least go :ask for a loan of $56,000 to obtain the financing needed to start their
business and pay off the town. If they refuse to grant that on whatever basis then that is a
different piece of information, but speaking for myself I'd be very uncomfortable putting the
people of the community in second position at this point in time based on the information
presented tonight.
S
Adams
- But had we had a mortgage
two
years ago, the work still would have been
done
and
we still
would
have qualified.
so you
still
would....
Cl T Hatfield - You don't know that, if you had had a. mortgage it would have been a
whole different set of circumstances. Those things are evaluated at a. point in time and
qualifications are met. This is two years later and things have changed, you may not qualify
today for what you qualified for two years ago. We don't know, we don't have that information.
You are asking us to make a decision relatively blind. I don't feel like we have enough
information to grant what you are requesting. You need to provide some sort of letters from
bona fide lenders saying that they won't lend you enough money to pay us off. I don't see why
we should subordinate to `big money lenders". Their money is no different than anybody else's
and you are asking us to place the citizens of Dryden at greater risk than they are right now.
Supv Schug - Why don't you talk to your lender and see what you can do.
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Cl T Hatfield - We need some sort of feed back. We are in favor of the start up of a new
business; we want to see you stay in the community. We are very interested in supporting the
things that you stated you are interested in doing, but we need more information.
Supv Schug - You need to explain to your lender what the situation is. They need to
take a look at what your situation is and what: you have with us. It may not make any
difference if they are in second position to our lien.
S Adams - Will gather more information and get back to us.
COUNTY BRIEFING
Charlie Evans - Apologized for not being here the last few months. I•Ias a few issues
with respect to Ellis Hollow Road. One is a 4 -way strop sign at the intersection of Ellis Hollow
Road and Stone Quarry Road. They did a traffic count in that area and they do not believe that
the traffic count warrants the 4 -%vay stop. They contend that a 4 -way stop only for speed
control is not an appropriate use of a 4 -way stop sign, Ward IIungerford does agree however,
that the sight distance along that intersection is extremely poor and is willing in the .redesign
and improvement's of Ellis Hollow Road to raise that intersection in such a way as to improve
that line of sight, The issue of speed on that road has been raised as a serious
consideration, and Ward has told me that. he has equipment that he can put timers down
which would give the time of day and speed of cars going on various parts of that road and he
would be willing to do that. The Sheriff' has agreed that if he had that information the he
would be willing to pinpoint those areas at that time to see if he could convince people that
driving slower is less expensive than otherwise. If you wish, we can start a program like that.
The Sheriff does not have sufficient deputies and cars to just cover the road forever, but if Nve
can pinpoint where it is appropriate and would be most productive, then he would be willing to
do something.
Cl Beck - Didn't the letter indicate that they would put up some curb signs or
additionals signs in that area?
Cl Grantham - Some of it went up.
C Evans - It is my a perienee that curb signs and proposed speed signs don't seem to
mean much to people. I believe with those all you can do to somebody is arrest them for
reckless driving unless they are actually speeding above the posted limit, so the signs are not
as effective as you might think.
I chair the public safety committee this year and we have a number of things going in
that area. We have had no board outs in the jail since January 15. Prisoner census has been
down and the sheriff has also been able to get permission to raise the number of inmates in the
jail to 117. Over the short haul t:he board out problem will be well contained. That agreement
however requires that we make a decision fairly quickly about what we are going to do about
expanding the jail. The jail was only originally designed. for 64 people and you have to
understand that it is going to be really crowded with that number of people in it. As the
density of prisoners goes up it becomes more dangerous both for the corrections officers and
for the prisoners themselves. We are in the process of a jail study which will be completed by
the end of the year and we will be making recommendations to the County Board on what
should be done to solve that problem.
The County Board at their last meeting passed a resolution agreeing in principal to a
consolidated E911 dispatch center. As it is now, our fire is separate from police and it is not
the most efficient approach. When a call comes in to the fire station for police it has to be
transferred. There are issues involved of wanting people to get off the line as soon as possible
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in case another call is coming in. With the consolidated system that I viewed in Chemung
County, there were five dispatchers in one room at all times. They were cross trained in
various emergency situations. They rotated positions every day. 1 saw a call come in. While
the individual was talking to the caller, two other dispatchers dispatched an ambulance and a
fire truck. That equipment was out of their stations in 30 seconds. The issue here is that time
is clearly of the essence in this kind of emergency. The dispatcher was able to stay on the line
with the caller until help arrived. It is a far more efficient system than we operate here, and it
won't take any more people to operate than we are using right now. It would be an excellent
service for the county and won't cost a great deal of money to accomplish.
The county is also looking at video arraignment. With this system we could eliminate
the transportation of prisoners from the jail to the Court under circumstances, and the
prisoner could be arraigned without leaving the jail. It would mean major savings for the
County if we do this.
In the library area, we are about ready to show the proposed design for the library to
the public. The building will not look like a box. It will have a curved wall along Green Street.
1'he entrance will be on the confer of Green and Cayuga and it will be a 20' circular tower going
up. The curved wall will remain under the existing roof. You will be pleased with the results,
and it looks like well be able to do everything within the budget. He feels that if this is going to
be a County library and not a city library we need to find solutions to transport residents from
the outer portions of the County in to the library and back.
The Board of Health met today. The Board made no decision with respect to
fluoridation of water. They have heard both sides of the argument and will consider that issue
and make a decision and recommendation next month. The Board cannot force anyone to
fluoridate their water, nor can they stop them if they choose to do so. There was a request
from Mayers Smoke Shop for a waiver of the tobacco law regarding keeping tobacco products •
locked up. That request failed six to nothing and is the only request they have had for any
changes in the tobacco law.
D Weinstein - asked of the County Board was considering charges in the "woohvorth
parking lot" to provide free parking for library patrons. I-ie was told there have been no plans
made at this point.
C1 Grantham - inquired about the status of our request for a four way stop at the
intersection of Turkey Hill and Mt Pleasant Roads. Charlie does not know, but feels that
perhaps traffic counts do not warrant installation of a four -way stop.
P Walbridge - Is concerned about the standard of traffic counts being high enough to
warrant a four way stop. Does there need to be a death there first?
COUNCIL PRIVILEGE OF THE FLOOR
Cl Grantham - She has contacted the Task Force for Battered Women. They are
interested in organizing the personal safety program for us. She will try to have something
more concrete next: meeting.
Cl T Hatfield has no report on cable negotiations.
Supv Schug - Has sent information regarding the Ag District Law to board members R
Beck and C Hatfield. Frank Proto has asked for comment. They briefly looked at it, but don't
feel confident to comment at this point. It: seems to make it easier for people to comply with
the law. They will get back to Supv Schug if they feel there is something that needs to be •
addressed.
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® Cl Grantham - The Cayuga Lake Intermunicipal Organization had a meeting on March
24. A lot of time ums spent at that meeting identifying environmental concerns in the Cayuga
Lake Watershed. She brought up concerns on behalf of Dryden having to do with groundwater
because a lot of people in our area are served by wells. She is concerned that this not become
a Cayuga Lake Management: plan but that it is a watershed management plan and that it
includes water quality issues outside of the lake itself. She also responded on the phone with
Marshall to the Tompkins County Water (duality Strategy Plan and asked him to comment.
M Taylor - The Town Board members have received copies of the water quality strategy
draft plan. It has been out for public comment and comment from local town boards. He has
been sitting in as our representative to the water resources technical committee which has
been meeting jointly with the counsel. 1=fe has drafted a. memo to the chair of the water
resources council and the water resources technical committee that addresses some of the
comments on the draft plan. He is asking 11-ds Board to review the memo and let him know if
there are any additional concerns. He and Cl Grantham have discussed the concerns he has
and Cl Grantham's concern that the plan does not address groundwater. He does not believe
there has been enough public input yet.
Cl Grantham - In counties where there is a water quality strategy plan in place there is
opportunity to get state funding to do projects to protect or enhance water quality. It is time
well spent to do this. Marshall's memo as well as information regarding a one -day conference
on the Cayuga Lake Watershed were distributed.
With respect to project IMPACT, Cl Grantham wondered if that was just for businesses.
ZO Slater informed her that it is a townwide program, individuals are welcome to participate.
The next step is forming partnerships. The next meeting is the 29th of April. They need to start
® forming partnerships, with the business communities, with the residential communities, to
preplan and head off hazards and disasters int:ead of being reactive. A prime example would be
the fire on the 31^L of March which came very close to consuming the Boy Scout Office, School
Offices and the storage barn at Shew Furniture. Public information and awareness about
when to burn and when not to burn could have prevented this. One of the buildings could
have been easily engulfed because of the brush and vegetation grows up the side and back of
the building. The dam project has been a big step and they are working with the Villages of
Freeville and Dryden and County Planning, Soil & Water Conservation, Emergency Control &
Response, the Fire Departments, etc. We need to begin to plan what the mitigation efforts are
going to be, but we need to identify the players.
Cl Grantham - Would the flooding that happens along 366 in Varna be addressed?
ZO Slater
- Not sure that
would apply. They
look at
more catastrophic issues such as
long term loss of
power, and how
it would affect
the
elderly,
and how can we be
prepared.
C1 Grantham - Feels they should keep in mind flooding issues such as Varna and
Yellow Darn,
ZO Slater - During the week of MaV 10 the State Emergency Management team is going
to put on a seminar which will be most of day at the Dryden Fire Station. We hope to get a
huge influx of people and we are going to identity our community's specific areas of possible
hazard that need mitigation. They are trying to involve the media.
Cl Grantham - She suggested at the organizational meeting having a planning meeting
and would like to set a date.
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ZO Slater - Will talk with the Plaiuiing Board. Their May meeting will be held on the
200. 0
ATTORNEY
Nothing further has been done with the Youth Commission.
With respect to Teler&)r, we are composing a. response to the position taken by Telergy
not wanting to sit down and negotiate fair compensation for the use of the Town's property. It
will be sent to the Supervisor for his signature.
With respect to the North property, Mrs. North was offered $3,700 by the State of New
York for a small piece of property that they are going to take in connection with their work on
Route 13. The Town needs to decide if it is going to sign off on that award, or if part of the
award should be applied toward the grant. This is a situation where someone has received a
grant from the HUD program is coming into some money. It is different in ghat: this is an
involuntary situation. The taking of .18 acres will not affect. the house itself. Atty Perkins has
not received a report from HUD although one was requested. We do not know if all the work
was done or the extent of the distribution of the funds. Mrs. North received an outright grant
in the amount of $24,062.00 and will not have to repay the Town unless she sells her property
in the next six years or so. All work was completed. Our position will not be affected if Mrs.
North is permitted to keep the award. After discussion, the Board decided that they would not
claim an interest in the award to Airs. North.
RESOLUTION #105 - NO INTEREST IN NORTH AWARD
Cl Beck offered the following resolution and asked for its adoption: •
RESOLVED, by this Town Board that the Town of Dryden has no interest in the award
to Elizabeth North by the State of New York in the amount of $3,700.00, and the supervisor is
authorized to sign any necessary documents.
2nd Cl T .Ha.tfield
Roll Call Vote Cl Beck Yes
Cl T Hatfield Yes
Cl C I•Iatfield Yes
Cl Grantham Yes
Atty Perkins - With respect to Hillman & Wawak, I sent you a memo on March 19
including summaries of the histories of their requests. You will recall the current status of this
is that they want the Town to waive the out -of- district connection charges to the Turkey Hill
Water and Sewer Districts. That would certainly be a new precedent if you did that.
Supv Schug - Are these the same people that: want to build a 20 unit apartment house?
Atty Perkins - Yes, a $500,000 project.
ZO Slater - The reason they want to hook up to public water and sewer is so they can
put significantly more dwelling units on the property.
Cl T Hatfield -
Is in
favor
of progress and
moving forward, but it is unfair to the people •
already in the district
who
have
carried the cost.
It is not equitable.
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is RESOLUTION # 106 - DENY HILLMAN & WAWAK REQUEST TO WANE
WATER & SEWER CONNECTION CHARGES
Cl Beck offered the following resolution and asked for its adoption:
RESOLVED, that this Town Board hereby denies the request of Viesia. Hillman and
Richard Wawak to waive the connection fees charged by the Town for connecting to the Turkey
Hill Water and Sewer Districts.
2nd Cl T Hatfield
Roll Call Vote Cl Beck Yes
Cl T Hatfield Yes
Cl C Hatfield Yes
Cl Grantham Yes
Atty Perkins - I want to bring you up to date on a matter that is going before the
Planning Board on Thursday night. It is a request by Doug Sutton to subdivide a large parcel
he has into two parcels and convey it to adjounung owners. Doug Sutton, as you may recall is
the developer who failed to complete the improvements to Brook Tree Lane. Unfortunately, this
project does not involve Brook Tree Lane. I have written to Barbara Caldwell and advised her
of this fact and that I thought the Town Board would be concerned about relief being granted to
a developer who did not in another circumstance with the Town fulfill his obligations. There is
not much more we can do about it other than make your displeasure known. That has been
done at the request of the Supervisor.
® I wanted also to point out to you in the March issue of the "Talk of the Towns" magazine
there is an article which references the Town of Dryden and the adult use study conducted by
Dr. Robert Penny The article was written by Dr. Penna for 'Calk of the Towns" on studies and
regulations of adlilt uses.
With respect to Quarry Road, last: week I got a phone call from Mr. Dolph regarding my
letter. He advised me that he had been in touch with Jack Bush. He also advised me that he
had been in touch with Peter Novelh, engineer, who was going to take a look at the road and
make suggestions as to how he might be able to pave his driveway to prevent some of the
tracking of Laud onto the roadway. He also told me that they had made some tire mats, but
they were also looking at getting ahold of some used conveyor belts that might be easier to put
down than the tire mats. They are also looking at the possibility of putting a new driveway on
to Hungerford Road. They will have to be in touch with Jack about that.
J Bush - Peter Novelli called after his meeting with Mr. Dolph. He had some other
suggestions that he was going to take back to Mr. Dolph. One of those is possibly some kind of
steel grating, that the truckers would have to drive over and would allow some of that mud to
fall out before it got to the road. Another possibility was a larger type gravel base for the
driveway, making it rougher and allowing the mud to fall off. The other thing was the
possibility of coming off Hungerlord Road.. His reasoning was that would take longer to go from
wherever they are dumping the spill to get to the road, allowing more time for mud to fall off
the tires. My biggest concern is the fact that we have a problem in one area and I'd rather not
have a problem in a second area. That aside, it does sound like a good idea because you don't
have the traffic on Hungerford Road, but there is expensive housing out there and those
residents would not be happy with mud on the road. The good news is that he made an effort
and we have some forward movement.
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tltty Perkins - You should also be aware that there a couple of conditions which were
attached to his minim; permit issued by DEC. One is about using a sweeper to remove debris
from the road and the second has to do with discharge of water. If those are not resolved to
your satisfaction we can go back and put some pressure on from DEC.
Supv Schug - The problem is that the mud on the road makes iy extremely slippery and
someone is going to get hurt.
C1 Grantham - The water running off the quarry site is beginning to wash out the side
of the road and we need to determine for sure, but I think it is coming off the quarry site. He
has a pond there for settling, but it doesn't work. If you go out there after he's been cutting
and it has rained and go the bottom of the hi11 at. H.Ills Hollow Road, the water is milky from
rock dust. There is water coming off the site and cutting the ditch and under the road, under
the pavement now. There has been a lot of damage in the last few months.
J Bush - Feels we are partially responsible for some of the water because the shoulder
on the right side needs to be cut down and the driveway is the major re ason for the water
coining down. This is a similar situation to the one discussed tonight on Thomas Road. I have
asked that when a new building permit application comes in, they make sure that I have had a
chance to review the driveway location. We need to let people know that the driveway should
not be installed where the grade allows the %eater to run into the road. If there is no other way
to grade it, there may be another alternative such as a driveway culvert that has grates on the
top.
D Putnam - If you are noticing gray water, it is a DEC question not a town matter. He
is not supposed to be discharging that.
Supv Schug - Get a copy of the permit and see what it says.
Cl Grantham. - We need to make sure how much of the water damage is from him de-
watering his quarry and just dumping it in the ditch. He's got those culverts in all funny
places, way back from the road. The water is just cutting wider and wider on the other side,
his expanded side of operations.
J Bush - In my discussion with him about a driveway off Hungerford Road, I asked if he
would consider eliminating some of those driveways. I felt that he didn't want to consider
getting rid of any of them. So again, I'd rather keep the problem in one area.
Supv Schug - If the culverts under the driveway are inadequate, I think we can replace
them and put in bigger culverts if that is necessary to keep the wager off the road.
J Bush - Isn't sure that all the driveways even have culverts.
C1 Grantham -'Is talking about both sides. On the side with the settling pond, if you
look further into the property, he has water that I think is coming off of there. That is his
cuttings water, but also water that comes out of the quarry as he cuts into it. That's where I
think there is a lot of volume of water coming off that property that wouldn't: be if the ground
water table weren't exposed. It is running into the ditch in that area and doing a lot of cutting
there.
Supv Schug - Henry, explain the situation on Freese Road (Ottenschott).
ZO Slater - They have put the posts up, they don't have a new gate up. They did not
throw away our stop work order. We sent him a copy of all the details by both regular and
registered mail. I have seen no attempt to work there since we posted it. The gate was
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supposed to have been installed by December 31, 1998, but he didn't. I•Ie started hauling
gravel out recently and told people that he was taking it be seored someplace else- In fact it
was going to a Cordell project- What qw-e. have done is tnld him-that since the board authorized
the condition for which the stop work order would be issued, orgy the board can undo it- He
has to come and ask you for permission to go back to work- He probably xvion't,
1 Beek - We have a stop work order because he dca�sn't have the gate up?
O Slater - That's the first one- 7°he rest of it is that he has to have the rest of his
mitigation work finished by June 1. I still couldn't give him a cleara�qce on it until he pays all
current outstandbig fees. Last year he didn't pay any so thoy went on his taxes. We are now
accumulating a new bill.
Supv S chug - Before he works on Saturdays, he is supposed to notify Heuly, I feel he
should have to notify Henry whenever he uwurk.%. Maybe we can change his special permit so
that we have wme control.
D Weinstein - Feels that if we take the Position that if he comes to the hoard and fixes
all the conditions, then its okay for him to have a permit, you are sending a bad rne$' %age. You
are [ellisig him that is the way he can uper�j.te, just wait until he needs to use the plot, then
conform to Whatever you want him w do,
Cl CranCham - What action could we take now?
tty Perldns -You have takers the actior4, Henry shut him dawn- 1 f he continues to
operate in violation of a stop work order, then th�i1l is a separate offense- Technically, he does
not. need hoard approval to resume, because if he complies with the gale condition, then he has
4Dcomplied with the terms of his special permit.
Cl Grantham, - Then he has to meet his other deadlines-
O Slater i So if he conforms the special permit is reinstated automatically, we don't
have a right to play games,
Atty
Pt�rkijas -
You don't have
authority
to revoke
the
special permit- You do have
authority to
shut him
down because
he hasn't
complied
with
the conditions.
Cl Beck - So as soon as he complies, h.e. is automatically back in business-
ul v Schug - Can we vote tonight to say he has to come back to us before we open h.is
gate up again?
Atty Perkins - No.
1 Grantham - What about the payment of fees? Doesnt he have to pay those before he
can start up again-
Atty - Perkins - Yes, he is supposed to. That becomes a question of ecorwmics. Do You
want to spend a lot of -money chasing $237.50, car know that you are going to collect it on his
taxes. You are going to get the money eventuoJ�v anyway- You can go to court if he continues
to operate its violation of the sl'crp work order, or if he doesn't meet his deadline of June 1 for
the plantings. 13 u what you don't want to do is put yourself in a position where you look like a
whiner to the Cn-a t. You don't want a judge saving "arc you going to come in here every
mcanth_ every time this guy h `t done something?"
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Cl Grantham - So if he does nat put the gate up and starts hauling material in and out
of there, then that is the next trigger and we can take action. -
Atty Perkins - Right. T -ie trigger is violation of the step work order at this point. He
,started hauling u-2 vinlal5on of the permit because he hadn't put the gate up. So Henry Qured
that problem by giving ham a stop work order,
TOWN CLERK
ratty Perkins has helped to 'fine tune'
forwarded to board members for their review_
would like reasons for denial ligted (they can
and would "New York State' inserted u6 a Front
decided that it would be sufficif xnt to referent
denial.
FOIL regulations, and they were previously
Cl Grantham would like chaos on page 3. She
only be denied for re=asons set forth in the statute)
of Committee on Olen Gove;mment. It was
e the appropriate statute concertvng reasons for
RE SO #107 - ADOPT FOIL R ULATIONS AS AMENDED
1 C Hatfield offered the following resolution and asked for its adop6ow
RESOLVED, that this Town Board hereby adopts the FOIL regulations ;as presented
with the following Changes:
(1 Reference shall be
made to
the NYS statute which
lists reasons for denial of
information under
the New
York Stale Preedom of
Information Law.
() Committee on Open Government shall be changed to read "New York State
Committee on Open Government" -
,fa Ol Grantham 0
Roll Call Vote Cl Beek Yes
Cl T Hatfield Yes
Cl C Hatfeld Yes
C1 Grantham Yes
ENGINEERING
Supv Schug - The Board has previously rec- eived the Full Environmental Assessment
Form with respect to the proposed Yellow Barn Drainage District and had an opportunity to
review it. Are there any questions?
C1 Grantham - I Lun in favor of the disinict, but if we do a SEER declaration on this, I
am unsure how to do it because we are trying to have an environmental impact. We are trying
to make some environmental changes, so you can't say it is no impact. The other thing is that
it is a very specific engineering solution. Is there some way we can write this w that we can
Hake the time to look at some other options, or is that going to come out in a public hearing? I
recently heard of a situation like this in Tioga County, where they built an elevated wetland to
control flooding-
D Putnam - Explained that would not work in this case because of the slope- The water
in the stream and velocity created fly the slope is causing the problem- 1 believe if you look at
this pmlert before it is started and when it is complete, essentially the stream wiU be in the
same spot with different stream banks, it has a short term effect during construction, but
ove.ra]l, there is no impact on the envizonm cnt, 0
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C1 C Hatfield - When the project gets clone the water quality is going to be better and
controlled.
ZO Slater - Doesn't the gait two analysis get you to where you want to go because of
the fact that it can be mitigated,
C:1 Grantham - I don't know, if you line a stream with riprap is Ehe aquatic ecology ever
going to he the same as it was before,
upy Schug - Dave is talking about flattening the bomija of the Feed, 1'n� that, and
also bringing the sides up and lining that and dog away with some of the obstructions that
were put M the stream by some of the residents, such as culverts,
Cl Cararltham asked 17 Puttmm if the filter fabric underneath was pern e. able and he
replied that it v�F . The inter fabric saves the riaed of creating dUt�erent layers of storfe. It will
sage £n to S inches of stone.
upv Sc hug We need to accept the SEAR document as it stands.
Atty NTkns - You have a resolution before you determining that the action to organize
the district and to construct and install the improvements will not have a sigtnificant effect,.
That obviously will be ba<�ed on your review of the EAF. The supervisor will then sign a
negative declaration and then you can adopt an order calling a public heart g. You had copies
of those lair, month, and we have changed the dates.
Tlie Board reviewed the en +ironrnental assessmern form,
0 RESOLUTION #108
RESOLUTION DETERMINING TUAT ACTION TO OaGANIZE YELLOW
BARN DRAINAGE DI,STRICT AND TO CONSTRUCT AND INSTALL IMPROVEMENTS
WILL NOT HAVE A SIGNIFICANT EFFECT ON THE ENVIRONMENT
Councilpemon Thomas BalZeld offered the following resolution and asked for its
adoption=
WHEREA$, the Town Board of the Touria of Drvden, Tomplk ns County, New York (the
'Tower) Proposes to establish a drainage district in the Town to be Down as the Yellow Barn
Drainage District. (the `District') and also proposes the construction of stream hank
stabilization and erosion control structures for approxima tely 1,500 linear feet of Tributazy I 5
to Fall Creek, between Ferguson Road and NYS Route 13, including necessary channel
clearisig, vegetative stabilization of stream banks, installation of rip -rap and apparatus,
appurtenances and incidental improvements and including acgWsition of land or rights in
lannd- all as more particularly described in the report of T.G. Miller, P.C. dated March 10, 1999
which is on file in the office of the Town Clerk (the "Frojec:t7); and
WHET AS, pursuarut to Article 3 of the EnwironmentaJ Conservation Law, Chapter 43 -B
of the Consolidated Laws of New York, :�s amended (the "SEAR Act") and the regulations
adopted pursuant thereto by the Department of Environmental Conservation of the Mate of
New York, being b NYCRR Part 617, as amended (the "Regulations"), the Town Board desires to
determine whether the Project may have a 'significant effect an the environment' (as said
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quoted term is defined in the SEQR Act and the Regulations) and therefore re€Iuire the
preparation of an environmenf,al impact statement; and
WTmIEREAS, to aid the "Gown Board in do :ermui g h.etlaer faze Project may base a
sigailicant effect upon l'}he environment, an environmental assessment form {the 'EAF') has
been presented to and reviewed by the Town Boardi copies of which EAF are on file is the: office
of the Town Clerk; and
WHEREAS, pursuant to the
Regulations,
the Town Board has exa,mmed
the EAF in
order to make adetermizlation as to
the potential
environmental sigrulicance of the
Prafect: axed
WHEREAS, the project does not appear 1:cW constitute a "I � 1 Action" (as said quoted
term is defined in the Regulations),
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT R FSOLL�TD 13Y THE Mla,N'113E S OF THE TOWN 80ARD OF
THE TOWN OF DRYDEN AS FOLLOWS,
(1) ):cased upon an examination of the EAF, and based further upon the Tows
Board's knowledge of the area surrounding the proposed District'' and such further
investigation of the Project and its environmental effects as the Town Board has deemed
appropiYate, the Town Board makes the falla� wing findings with respect to 1]ie Project:
(A) The Project consists of the organization of the District and
the construction of stream bank stabilization and erosion control
strucCures for approximately 1,500 linear feet of 'Tributary 15A to Fall
Creek, between Ferguson Road and NYS }mute 13, including necessary
channel clearing, vegetative stabilization of stream banks, installation of
rip -rap aDd apparatus, appustenaa3ces and incidental improvements and
the acquisition of la3 -id or rights in Land, all as more particularly
described in the report ofT,G- Miller, P.C. dated March 10, 1999 and on
file in the office of the Tu %vn Clerk.
(B)
No
putentially
significant knp,acts on the envirorunent are
noted in the
prepared a
EAF,
and none are known to
the Town Board-
() Based upon the foregoing investigation of the, potential eyw1ronmental impacts of
the Project and considering both the magnitude Arid importance of each environmental impact
therein indicated, the Town Board makes the follvvvi_ng findings wid determinations with
respect to the Project.
(A) The Project constitutes an ljnJisted Action (as said
quoted term is defined in the Regulations);
(B) The Project will result in no major impacts and, therefore,
is one which will not: cause sig=ificant damage to the environment.
Therefore, the Town Board hereby determines that the Project will -n,ot
have a significant effect on the environment, and the Town Soard will not
require the preparation of an environmental impact statement with
respect to the Project.. and
P
As a
consequence of
the foregoing,
the Town Board has
prepared a
negative
declaration with
respect to the
Pmject-
(3) The Town Supervisor is hereby directed to file with the Town Clerk a negative
declaration with respect to the Project (said negative declaration to be substantially in the farm
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and substantially to the effect of the negative declaration attached hereto), which shall he
available for public inspection during regu tar business hours-
(4) Th.is resolution shall take effect immediately,
Seconded Gouncilperson Charles Hatfield.
Roll Gall Vote l Beck Yes
Cl T Hatfield Yes
Cl C Hatfield Yes
Cl Grantham Yes
RESOLUTION # 109 - ADOPT ORDER FOR PUBLIC HEARING -
PROPOSED YELLOW BARN DRAINAGE DIS'1`II"ICT
G1 Grantham offered the followi ng resolution and asked for its adoption:
RESOLVED, by this Tau n3 Board that a public bez2xing shall be held on May. 11, 1999,
at 6.30 P, m. at the Town Hall, 65 Fast Main Street, Dryden, New York to consider the
establishment GE a drainage district in said to %vn to be known as the Yellow Barn ]drainage
District, the particulars of which are set forth in the Order Calling Public Hewing attached to
these minutes.
2°ri Cl C Hatfield
0 Roll Gall Vnte Cl Beck Yes
1 T Hatfield Yes
Cl G Hatfield Yes
GI Grantham Yes
ZONING OFFICER
O Slater - Received two applications for site plan review for elder cottages, These will
he the Caunty sponsored program, so we 13 get a first look at that, as opposed to the private,
elder cottage we did Iast Fall, We need to deal xvith .doe Yaeger, Joe's Chariot Repair- Three
years ago you gave him a three year limited special per= to operate a body s-hop as a home
occupa[ ion on Mill Street in Freeville. He's up for renewal. I've asked him to write a letter
requesting that the Board consider renewing or giving him outright a•special permit. There has
not been a single report from any nuighhor of any complaint since the day he was approved.
He has done everylhixig that he agreed to, including put up the fence that was eng7neered-
Supv Schug - Well have a hearing for him, Set it up for next month-
D Weinstein - asked if there was anything new for the Varna II project ar�d was told
there was not,
HIGHWAY SUPERINTENDENT
With respect to the bids submitted for truck bodies f dump boxes, none of the bids
received met the specifications exactly, and it was decided to go with the lowest acceptahle bid.
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RESOLUTION ,# 110 - ACCEPT BID FOR DUMP BODY WITH SNOW iE',QU PMENT
C1 T Hatfield offered the following regolutim) mid asked for its adoption;
RESOLVED, that This `Gown Board hereby accepts the bid of $36,507.00 by C<yclon for a
clump body with snow equipment, th w Ding 1 he longest acceptable bid,
20 Cl Beek
Roll Call Dote Cl Beck Yes
Cl T Katfield Yes
C1 C: Hatfield Yes
C:1:Oranlham Yes
RMOLI: TION # 111 - ACCEPT BID rOR DUMP BODYJSPREADiE',R
WITH SNOW iEQUIPMENT
Cl T Hatfield offered the foll.ov&r g resolution and asked for its adoption;
RESOLVED, that this Town Board hereby accepts the bid of $.39,433.00 by C yclon for a
dump body/ spreader with snow equipment. that being the lowese acceptable bid-
H'19
Cl C Hatfield
Roll call Vote Cl Beck Yes
C1 T Hal -Held Yes
Cl C Hatfield Yes
Cl Grantham Yes
,J< Bush - With respect to the mailbox policy, Iagt month I asked the board for input for
crew a mailbox policy- It was suggested that I ask other highway superintendents. That
has been done and if you like I can try to come up wi(h a policy I would like to see
implemented-
Sup- S chug -Fe need to have a good drawing dome, sha
wing
heiF;ItI:, width, distance
from the road, etc. and have that available- I think if the mailbox meets our sper-ificafions and
we bush il; we should replace it. Now, we just kind of replace anybody's that gets broken- You
get that together and weT go over it
J Bush - Had a breakfast meeting with many of the highwaay superintendents and Ward
Hungerford from the County about the -municipal sh,-ued services- They are in the process of
coming up with a policy that will have to be presented to the board a; far as liability issues
when services are shared. Is asking that we continue with the same things were done in the
past. Ward Hungerford suggested that the Towns could shcc a their graders with the County -
Patching is something that could be shared with the County, The County will be putting
together a draft agreement,
ZO Slater - with respect' to driveway installWticn f culverts, suggested #h-at we have a
permit system that could be tied into the buildup permit system, to insure that people get the
highway department's approval for a driveway or culvert. The County and State both require
approval, The Board feels that is a good idea-,
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J Bush - Chipping day is scheduled for May 22nd, the Saturday prior to the holiday
weekend, at the Johnson Road site.
J Bush -
Under
DPW,
would like
to
rehire Jim
Hulslander who
worked for the Town last
year, as summer
help.
Feels
he should
be
entitled to
a higher rate of
pay.
Supv Schug - We'll raise it a quarter an hour over what. he got last year.
J
Bush -
Under Highway, would like to rehire Don Hanson as
summer help. If he is
available
he can
start right in sweeping roads and then work into the
mowing season. '
Supv Schug - Well raise his pay a quarter an hour too.
Supv Schug - Suggested that with respect to Hunt Hill, Jack sit down with the
commit:Cee and they can take a look at what he wants to do. Maybe then they should have a
meeting with the people up there.
Cl Grantham
- One of things we did say at one of the
meetings at the
Varna Community
Association was that
people would be notified before work was done. People
were happy with
that, and if you have
a meeting with them it calms everyone
down a lot.
SUPERVISOR
Supv Schug - You have the paramedics report and so forth. You know that one of our
fire chiefs (Brent Hollister) had a heart attack and is not doing too well right now. He's having
a tough time. They are trying to stabili2e him enough to move him to Syracuse.
You have notice from the Association of Towns. There is a meeting April 30 for lobby
day in Ithaca. 'There is a TCMOA meeting at the Lehigh Valley House on April 20. We are
trying to get people together from all the towns so that we can more effectively deal with the
County on issues.
I attended the Cayuga Medical Center meeting. The hospital is doing well, making a
profit.
Do we want to pay $274.50 to be part of the 'Tompkins County Intermunicipal Cable
Commission? It will cover annual dues.
RESOLUTION #112 - PAY DUES TO TOMPKINS COUNTY
INTERMUNICIPAL CABLE COMMISSION
C1 Grantham offered the following resolution and asked for its adoption:
RESOLVED, that this Town Board hereby authorizes the payment of $274.50 to the
Tompkins County lntermunicipal Cable Commission for annual dues.
2 110 Cl C Hatfield
Roll Call Vote Cl Beck Yes
Cl T Hatfield Yes
Cl C Hatfield Yes
Cl Grantham Yes
is Supv Schug - We have some encouragement from the Village to move forward with the
Cortland Road Water District. We need at least one, maybe two meetings, with Charlie, David,
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the mayor and Jon Bradley, to go over what we want to do and make sure this Map, Plan and
Report is all right. Some changes need to be made. At our next meeting, Mahlon will have the
papers ready so we can set a public hearing. 0
RESOLUTION # 113 - APPROVE ABSTRACT # 104
Cl Beck offered the following resolution and asked for its adoption:
RESOLVED, that this Town Board approve Abstract #104 as audited, Vouchers #274
through' #343, for a total of $223,813.94.
2,1d Cl C Hatfield
Roll Call Vote Cl Beck Yes
Cl T Hatfield Yes
C1 C Hatfield Yes
Cl Grantham Yes
Supv Schug -Rte have a resume from Mary Bachner, who would like to serve on the
Youth Commission.
RESOLUTION # 114 - APPOINT MARY BACHNER TO YOUTH COMMISSION
Cl T Hatfield offered the following resolution and asked for its adoption:
RESOLVED, that this Town Board hereby appoints Mary Bachner as its representative
to the Dryden Youth Commission.
2(tr' C1 C Hatfield
Roll Call Vote Cl Beck Yes
Cl T Hatfield Yes
Cl C Hatfield Yes
Cl Grantham Yes
Supv Schug - Explained that we need to transfer $110,898 to cover the cost of the
second 10 wheel truck and two snow equipment: and body/ spreader (not line item budgeted,
but authorized).
RESOLUTION # 115 - TRANSFER FUNDS
Cl T Hatfield offered the following resolution and asked for its adoption:
RESOLVED, that this Town Board hereby authorizes the transfer of $110,898.00 from
DA5130.2 to DA5130.201 for the purchase of the second 10 wheel truck and two dump /body/
Spreaders with snow equipment.
2nd Cl Beck
Roll Call Vote C1 Heck Yes
C1 T Hatfield Yes
Cl C Hatfield Yes
Cl Grantham Yes •
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Supv Schug - We also need to transfer monies in connection with overtime services.
RESOLUTION li 116 - TRANSFER FUNDS
Cl Beck offered the following resolution and asked for its adoption:
RESOLVED, that this Town Board hereby authorizes the transfer of $2,658.22 from
DA5142.11 (overtime snow) to DA5148.11 (overtime services for others).
2nd C1 T Hatfield
]Roll Call Vote
Cl Beck Yes
Cl T Hatfield Yes
C1 C Hatfield Yes
Cl Granthwn Yes
Supv Schug - You have the justices report.
On motion made, seconded and unanimously carried, the board moved into executive
session at 12:15 am. No action was taken.
Respectfully submitted,
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Bambi L. Hollenbeck
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PUBLIC ACCESS TO RECORDS OF
® THE TOWN OF DRYDEN
1.
Purpose and scope
2.
Designation of records access officer
3.
Location
4.
Hours for public inspection
5.
Requests for public access to records
6.
Subject matter list
7.
Denial of access to records
8.
Fees
9.
Public notice
10.
Severability
Section 1 - Purpose and scope
(a) The people's right to know the process of government decision- making
and the documents and statistics leading to determinations is basic to
our society. Access to such information should not be thwarted by shrouding it
with the cloak of secrecy and confidentiality.
(b) These regulations provide information concerning the procedures by which
records may be obtained.
® (c) Personnel shall furnish to the public the information and records required by
the Freedom of Information Law, as well as records otherwise available by
law.
(d) Any conflicts among laws governing public access to records shall be
construed in favor of the widest possible availability of public records.
Section 2 - Designation of records access officer.
(a) The Town of Dryden is responsible for insuring compliance with
the regulations herein. The Town designates the Town Clerk as records access
officer.
(b) Records access officers are responsible for insuring appropriate agency response
to public requests for access to records. The designation of records access
officers shall not be construed to prohibit officials who have in the past been
authorized to make records or information available to the public from contin-
uing to do so.
Records access officers shall insure that personnel:
(1) Maintain an up -to -date subject matter list.
(2) Assist the requester in identifying requested records, if necessary.
e(3) Upon locating the records, take one of the following actions:
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(i) Make records available for inspection; or
Deny access to the records in whole or in part and explain in
writing the reasons therefor.
(4) Upon request for copies of records_
(i) Make a copy available upon payment or offer to pay established
fees, if any, Sri accordance with Section 8; or
(u) Permit the requester to copy those records. Records may not be
removed from the building and appropriate fees will be charged
for copies,
(5) Upon request., cell* that a record is a true copy; and
(G) Upon failure to locate records, certify that;
(�} The Town of Dryden is not the custodian for such records, or
(ix} The records of which the Town of Dryden is a custodian cannot
be found after diligent search_
Section 3 � Location
Records shall be available for public inspection and copying at,
The Office of the Town Clerk
55 East Main Street
Dryden, New York 13053
Section 4 - Hours for public inspection
Request for public access to records shall be accepter and records produced during
the hours the Town Clerk's Office is regularly open for business.
Section S T Requests for public access to records;
(a) A written request may be regtuired, but oral requests may be accepted when
records are readily available.
(b) A response shall be given regarding any request reasonably describing the
record or records sought within Eve (5) business days of receipt of the request.
(c) A request shall reasonably describe the record or records sought, Whenever
possible a parson requesting records should supply information regarding
dates, file designations or other information that may help to describe the
records sought.
(d) If the records access officer does not provide or deny access to the record
sought within five bwiness days of receipt of a request, he or she shall
furbish a written acknowledgement of receipt of the request and a statement
of the approximate date when the request will be granted or denied.
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Section 6 - Subject matter list,
(a) The records access officer shall maintain a reasonably detailed current
list by subject matter of all records in its possession, whether or not
records are available pursuant to subdivision tug of Section eaghtyY seven of
the Public Officers Law,
(b) The subject matter list shall be suff iently detailed to pexmit ideTXtification
of the category of the record souot.
(c) The subject
matter
list shall be updated
not
less than twice per
year. The
most recent
update
shall appear an the
first
page of the subject
matter list.
Section 7 - Denial of access to records,
( Denial of access to records shall be in writing stabng the reason therefore
and advising the requester of the right to appeal to the person or body
established to determine appeals_ Reasons for denial are set forth in Public
Officers Law, §87(2).
(b) If requested records are not provided promptly, as required in Section 5(d) of
these regulations, such Wure shall also be deemed a denial of access.
(c) Annually the Town Board shall desigoaute a person or body to determine appeals
regarding denial of access to records under the Freedom of Information Law.
(d) The time for deciding an appeal shall. commence upon receipt of a written appeal
i.denfiA i ng:
(1) The date of the appeal.
() The date and location of the requests for records.
(3) The records to which the requester was denied access_
(4) Whether the denial of access was in writing or clue to failure to provide
records promptly as rewired by Section (d); and
(5) The name and return address of the requester.
(e) The person or body designated to determine appeals shaU inform the requester
of a decision in writing within ten business days of receipt of an appeal,
(f) The person or body designated to determine appeals shall transmit to the New
York State Committee on Open overnnxent copies of all appeals upon receipt of
appeals,
(g) The person or body designated to determine appeals shall i&orm the appellant
and the Committee on Open Government of its determination in writing witkiin
ten business days of receipt of an appeal
Section 8 - Fees,
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(a) There shall be no fee charged far,
(1) Inspection of records;
(2) Search for records; or
p) Any certification pursuant to this part,
(b) Fees will be charged for copies as follows=
(1) photocopies not exceeding 9 by 14 inches -- $,25 per page;
() photocopies larger than 9 by 14 inches -- $1.00 per page_
Section 9 - public notice,
A notice containing the title ar name and business address of the records access officers
and appeals person where or body and the location were records can be seen 0r Copies
shall be posted in a conspicuous location wherever records are Dept and/or published
in a local newspaper of general circulation,
Section 10 — Severability,
If any provision of these regulations or the application thereof to any person or
Circumstance is adjudged invalid by a court of competent jurisdiction, such
judgment sha]1 not affect or impair the validity of the other provisions of these
regulations or the application thereof to othex persons and circumstances,
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PUBLIC NOTICE
YOU HAVE A RT HT TO SEE PEJBLZC RECORDS
The amended Freedom of Information Law, which took effect urn January 1, 1978, give
you the right of access to marry public records.
The Town of Dryden has adopted regulations governing when, where =d how you can
see public records_
The regulations can be seen at all places where records are kept,
According to these regulations, records can be seen and copied at:
Office of the Town Clerk, b5 East Amin Street, Dryden, New York 13053
The fallowing officials will help you to exercise your right to access=
1. Agency officials who have its the past been authorized to make records available_
_ records Access Dicer, Bamhi L_ HollcnbecK Town Ocric, 65 East Main Street, Dryden
New York 13053
if you are denied access to a record, you may appeal to the following persons) or body;
Thomas Hatfield, Town of Dryden Board Member, 65 East Main. Street, Dryden,
New York 1305.3
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T01WW OF DRYDEN
17 Subject Matter Adst
Lt Last revLsed May 18, 1999
The following is a list of information available after making a request under the Freedom of
Information i aw:
Town Clerk's Office:
Minutes of Town Board
Minutes of Planning Board
Minutes of Zoning Board of Appeals
Property tax information
Tax Maps
Assessment Roll
Dog licenses
Marriage licenses
(limited access)
Spores licenses
Games of Chance licenses
Bingo licenses
Water & Sewer Districts
(formation ofd
Handicap Parking Permits
Highway Dept & Dept of Pnhiie 'Works
inforivas"on:
Road listing, mileage
Equipment listing
Repair record of roads
Repair record of equipment
Tovam bridge lisdng & inspection worts
Record of equipment fael usage
Water & Sewer Distracts (maps &
As- huilts)
Justice Court;
Information re violation of following laws;
Penal
Vehicle & Traffic
Apiculture. & Markets
Environmental Conservation
Public Health
Alcohol Beverage Control
Worker's Compensation
Tompkins County Local Law
Tax
Transportation
Also:
Town of Dryden Local Laws & Ordinances
Village of Dryden Ordinances
Parking Violations
-� Civil matters
Sum=2Ty Proceeding
Small Claims matters
nperviaor's Office:
Personnel files (limited access)
Correspondence
Town fisiral matters
Zoning Office:
Buil ding permit files
Zoning permits & denials
Zoning Board of Appear Variance Hearings
Special Permit files
Site flan Review files
Subdivision & related inquires
Fire Deports, analysis & correspondence
Pire Safety Inspections
Mobile hose parks
Other agency reports, reviews &
Recommendations
Certifications & violation notices
Zoning & Building Code violatioris
General Zoning Building inquiries
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TO: Town F3oard
Town ofDrvdcii
New Fork
We, llre residents of Hunt Hill Raid, Town oFT)ryden, Nc%v York we concemod about the
proposed road work for Hunt Hill Rw d this summer_ Wf; value the rural oiir►ructer of our noigbborhood
and )NZsh to pr(zme it We ask the Town Board (bilt only tltc pr�hscnl road be reswtacod, rtithar than other
extensive widening plans, a welcome dforts to improve safe[v. a ask flICr0WTi Board tha[ xvc (the
residents of the c4inmtulity) be pail of the decision - making process Qll lk road work $E1' QRE it is started
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We, the residents of Hunt Hill Road, Town of Dryden, New York arc concerned about the
proposed road work for Hu-ni Hill Road this summer. We value the rural cliaractcr of our neighborhood.
We ask the Town Board that only the present road be resurfaced, rather than other extensive widening
plans. We ask the Town Board that we the residents be pan or the decision- making process on the road
work BEFORE it is started_
Signed:
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11 April 1999
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TO: `1'Oum Board
Town of Dryden
New York
%Vc, the residents of Fluty Hill Road, Town ofDryderk, Ncw York ore concenied about the
proposod road work for Hunl .Hii] Road Ibis SIITIpnCr. e volluo Ilse rural chamcler of our neighborhood
and. wish to preser�� it We ask the Token Botud tl�at only Ifkc preseiu road be resurfaced, rather Ohm' other
L;xtensive widening plzms_ We welcoirnc efforts to intpouvc safety_ WC ask tic Tmvn EDRrd Pwt %ve (die
residents of the oumrnunity) be part of the dociSiOFI =rn{iking process on the road work BEFORE it is stt {FiW
Signed.
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I I April 1994
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