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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1992-03-05TOWN BOARD MEETING PUBLIC HEARING • MARCH J, 199E S'P'ECIAL PERMIT HEARING COUNTRY MANOR ESTATES - Georrge Shank Deputy Supv Hatfield called the meeting to order° at 8 :00PM Members and guests participated in the Pledge of Allegiance Roll call was by the Town Clerk Pr ^esente Deputy Supv Hatfield, Clm Corrigan, Clm Roberts, Clm Baker, Atty Perkins and Z.O. Slater Absents . Supv Schug Deputy Supv Hatfield - read the notice that was published in the newspaper to consider the application of George Shank, County Man or Estates to expand his mobile home park by six lots. QUESTIONS AND /OR COMMENTS George Shank. - he has gone tht�ough the engineering plans that were required by Henry. At this point I am applying to the Town Board fotr a special permit. He has previously submitted all of the paperwork fora that. At this time he is waiting to hear from the Town Board so he can go to the Planning B� ward before e he proceeds any furnther with revisions to the engineering plans or • whatever is necessary. Frank Atwood - wanted to know in what direction the expansion was going to g. George Shank - it would be going to the south. Roy Rizzo - he sees nothing wrong w building code with the way that it awned the park fora 20 years and has the park.. There wer ^e two public mee were notified and he has talked wit them years age � because he was going money to do it. ith the health department and is laid out. He previously never% had any problems with t ings, all of the neighbors h a lot of them. He talked to to add on and didn't have the Clm Rober�ts - wanted to know where the recreation area was going to be located. George Shank - you should all have copies of the prints because he had to bring there t� � Henry. Schiecht's Roy Rizzo - 200 feet in back of the trailer park is the Etna park where the ch i ldrer, have a path t• � follow. There is a tennis court and ball field there. George Shank - that is addressed in George Schiecht's letter • because he has reviewed the plans, and he has commented or, that. 3C/ 33 TB3 -5 -92 page • Atty Perkins - what is the proposed source of water? George Shank - it has ` existing wells and there will be an additional storage drain tank put in because syst of health department requirement tank, for but the two extra storage. If wells are more he adds than adequate on he will according need another to the health department. They have been tested for capacity and there is no problem there. Atty Perkins - is this privately maintained? George Shank - yes. Atty Perkins - how will waste water be disposed cif? George Shank - it is in landscape the the engineer if he had a landscape plan, and plans and health department approved that there will drains to drain be two � syst ems. Atty Perkins - sub surface disposal on' site? George Shank - yes, that is still waiting for review from the town for the health department to � go through of issuing the permit. C1m Roberts part of the • George Shank ago. Actuall going to be. was down at - some of the notes that they received stated that project has electrical service. - yes, the electric po 1 es have been set up _years y, there is a road that exists where the lots are It existed there because originally the pump house the south end and there was a read there. C 1 m Roberts s - wanted landscape the to know if he had a landscape plan, and where by 8 feet. does the water drains to drain off? George mostly Shank -- flat. It he does not dyes slope have a off to landscape the plan south in because it is the distance of about 300 feet by 8 feet. The water drains to the southeast. Roy Ri zzo - where the trailers are is not where the sand filter will be, it will be across. The trailers will be on one side and the sand filter system will be on the other side. The way the health department laid this :Out is that if any cif the filter systems go bad in the future there is room for those. When he purchased the trailer park all of the electrical system was installed for 6 trailers on each side, which is 12 trailers. Since the new laws have taken affect the most that can be put in there now is 6 because he w i l l need the other her 6 lots f or a future sand filter system if something goes wrong with the ether one. Deputy Supv Hatfield - the sand filter system is between the • trailer park and the residents on Wood Rd.? 3q TB3 -5 -92 page 3 • George Shank - right, that is where it was sited by the health department. He wanted to d� � it another way but they are the ones that sited it for him. Frank. Atwood - wanted ti-.1 know if there was a stream that went dawn thrc-iugh there. George Shank. - rn I, that is further east on Rocca � Lucentes land. Atty mr.1bi only established are Perkins - is criteria there for any intention to make the water and sewer facilities municipally m1wned? George mr.1bi only established are Shank - not to his knowledge, he is not aware i.-if any criteria for doing that. Atty Perkins - the mobile home shall established or extended parks may only be Town of Dryden which mr.1bi only established are le home park ordinance states that a be allr.1wed in mi. -ibile home parks which are pursuant to this ordinance. Mobile home or extended in those areas of the served by municipal water and sewer services. George Shank - right. Atty Perkins - you d! in' t have any intention t hen? Roy Rizzo - they are so far away. Atty Perkins - is there any reason that you couldn't put in a system and dedicate it to the town? George Shank - YOU mean the system that I put in have it be so i that it can be hooked up later on. j Atty Per k i ns - construct one according to town specifications. i George Shank - he believes that probably the engineering � specifications can be set aside for that, yes. He can ask his engineer. All of these that are going to be put in are all going to be tied together, so yes. Atty Perkins - the ordinances states that it rilUSt municipal water arid sewer services. That does not tank and private line and private septic System, treatment plant, tank that is owned and maintaine fire hydrants with certain pressures, certain min etc. Is that your intention to make the expansion town specifications? be served by mean a private It means sewage d by the town, awn, imum size lines, according to 2 �/ y 1*83 -5 -92 page 4 George Shank - He would have department information well to give on ion that it that to point, his is he really engineer. all that he As is dues not quite far as the health aware of at this know. time. He did not the realize acting that that a law there riot was an ordinance But, looking at it that you are talking abi-Jut. That is why from curses he went through c_if the the zoning parks, private board mobile to get a variance the homes first on individual time, and there were public hearings. Atty Perkins - he believes it is the opinion of this bi.- tard that the Zoning Board of Appeals was without any authority or .jurisdiction to vary this provision. Clm Carrigan - regardless because he cif the why he merits Jim about your r.1f the case we would be acting that against a law that riot is already But, looking at it on the books. Geeurge Shank - his underst was that he wanted to � g• � t pertaining to the individu ordinance itself, but look, it that wayn and hro al at ing ugh pr'• it was that talking with Jim Schug, and do this a legal way. As perty itself not try to redo the in an individual case and adjust Clm Corrigan - Mr. Schug d• ies ni -.1t speak for the board, only for himself. Atty Perkins - he thinks what Jim is referring to is his apparent request to rezone this area or to change the requirements � �f the mobile horile ordinance to permit expansion � �f his mobile le home park ewithout municipal water or sewer systems. He believes that earlier the board indicated that they were rot in favor of making these changes. This was communicated to Mr. Shank earlier that the board was not going to � amend the ordinance to allow an expansion where there was not municipal water and sewer. George Shank - yes, because he had talked why he to Jim about your ZBOA and Jim said that apparently it was riot legal. he does not But, looking at it as an individual Perkins case they may do it as an individual property. So that is why he resubmitted it and brought before the board to look at it 2. religious as an individual piece, because what else can he do with the land if he does not expand. and display of farm Atty farming, Perkins farm - these are buildings, the allowed uses in a RB1 zi -.1ne. 1. gardening, nurseries, greenhouses and the dwellingsp semipublic raising of 3. structures; livestock Eck educational, and poultry; community, 4. farm buildings 2. religious one family, two family and similar and accessory farm bIAildingsq 5. roadside stands for the sale and display of farm products provided that any such stand shall be at least 50 feet from curses the and center recreation c_if the road; 6 clubs, facilities; 7. parks, private playgrounds, golf garages and 8. mobile homes on individual lots. Roy Rizzi_, -- so you can put 6 trailers in there then sell land to . the six owners. 3 (� TB3 -5 -92 page 5 . Atty Perkins - if he wants to Put a town r�clad in and subdivide, yes. George Shank. - the only way that yciu can make any use out of it was to have sc i much road frontage, and he doesn't have any read frontage. I only have the trailer park read itself. Atty Perkins - is there any reascjn that you couldn't build a town read, like a subdivider dcies? When peciple subdivide their prr jperty that is what the town requires that they constt%uct a town road. Rory park R i z expanded zc, - as a rather^ proper ^t y than owner he seeing individual would rather lets see a trailer back there and people have trash trailers in there and lock like heck.. Gecir;ge Shank - Under the ordinance the town will not let a single lot trailer go in there, because anything _in that side is not zoned four, single wides. Z.O. Slater - it would be double wider only cin individual lots. George Shank - it can't be subdivided foir that reason. Atty Perkins - sur! e it Could be subdivided for double wide mobile homes. Z. 0. SIC-Ater - as Icing as they each have a � one acre lot. George Shank - in which case you wouldn't be able to do that, because of the ordinance. Atty Perkins - you asked what you could dog with the land and I am trying to show ycju different ways that you can get around this problems George Shank - when he talked with Henry abi.-jut the uses for the land he was told that he we ould have to i build a rm gad to town specifications before he could sUbdivide because he did not have enough road frontage. Atty Perkins -- there are things that you can do without a variance. If you are going to build a public road back there and subdivide, you don't need a variance to do that as a matter of right as long as you comply with the proivisic ins cif the subdivision rules. What you are talking about is Putting in a concentration of mobile homes in an area that you are riot proposing municipal water% and sewer services for and that the ordinance states y,u cannot do. George Shank - did not knew how you we euld go about proposing water and sewer. TB3 -5 -92 page 6 • Atty Perkins - the way any other water and sewer, project ect i s started. You would have an engineer, you would have t • � petition the town board to do that. The cost would be born by the property that is benefited, not by the town. It would be like any other water and sewer district that is in the gown. What you are really talking about here, unless you are willing to build a municipal water and sewer service, is petitioning the town and having the town create the water and sewer district. George Shank - according tcj the health department that is a municipal water and sewer. They say that anything over 5 is considered municipal water and sewer. Z. 0. Slater - it is called public water and sewer ricit Municipal water and sewer. Atty Perkins - that really has to dc-i with the qualifications of the person who does the testing and supervising. You have to be an operator. It doesn't really mean that it is a municipal system. State law classifies water systems according tai the number of people served by it. If you get to a certain level, which he thinks if 5 you have to have a technician with a certain class 1 i cense who rti n i t ors the water arid takes tests and fills out repl irts. . George Shank - he does that now. Clm Baker - so it would be a step up from what he has now from enhancing his proposed system t•, something that the town would accept as a municipal system. Atty Perkins - it bec0mes a cost cc ins i derat i on. The purpose of the ordinance was to require that if you are going to have a mobile home park where y, IU concentrate, as what you would otherwise have on an acre. Where y=in 30,000 sq ft, You are going to concentrate that down to 5,000 sq ft you must have municipal water and sewer for obvious reasons. There is a much greater density for the public health, safety and welfare if you are going to allow that compaction by the increased density You Will create you must have municipal water and sewer. He could construct the system himself and then petition the town to take it over. Clm Baker - it wouldn't be like he was bringing it in from miles away. It would be a self contained system and would be maintained and monitored by the town rather than the individual. Atty Perkins - the town would be once it was installed and approv George Shank - who would approve Atty Perkins - the town engineer responsible ble for maintaining it ed. this? w� UId. a 3� TD3 -5 -92 page 7 George Shank - if the health department looked at the engineering plans and the town engineer looked at it and says that this is all right, would this be something that is feasible. Atty Perkins - if you meet the standards for construction of storage capacity, pressure and fire flow and things like that, yes. Roy Rizzo - what would sc.1mething like this cast. Atty Perkins - he ci uldn't tell you because he is not an engineer. George Shank - one of the reasons when he went to the zoning board was to get a variance for that because of municipal water and sewer piped up there. Atty Perkins - we are talking about creating not piping water there, George Shank - so this system that is existing on the engineering plans already are health department approved and will now have to be town approved. Atty Perkins - yes, if they are to be dedicated to the town. We • would have to have a town engineer look at then, to see if they meet the town requirements and specifications for municipal water and sewer. Phil Conger - density in small areas, he did nc_It see any difference in 5 t_ir 6 mobile homes in a small area as opposed to a multi family dwelling in a small area. Atty Perkins - if you have 5 mobile homes you jw1nly have to have 25,000 sq ft. which is riot even one minimurii size lot. Z. Q. Slater - by health department standards you would need 43,560 sq ft of usable area for each multiple dwelling. Atty Perkins - s� � there is that consideration and also in RBI zone multiple residents are riot permitted. In a mobile home park YOU could have 25,00(:) sq ft if You have municipal water and sewer for 5 mobile homes in a mr.1bi le home park. If you are going to do it outside of a mobile home park on an individual lot you would need 5 acres. Multi family dwellings where they are allowed i n RC and RD lot areas shall be at least 30,000 sq ft and at least 125 feet of road frontage for the initial dwelling unit and at least 3,000 a00 sq ft of additional lot ar ^ea per unit per bedroom for% each additional dwelling unit, • Closed public hearing 8:30 31 'T83 -5 -92 page 8 Atty Roberts Perkins - the beard is now free to make a decision, discuss it, f ri_Im postpone making a decision, but you have t• � make a decision in Shank 45 days. seen it. Clm Corrigan - wanted to postpone making a decision, until she had time to talk with Jim in all fairness. C 1 m Roberts - had some questions t hat needed to be answered � ±r should we wait until the � ether% issue is resolved. He has no problem in waiting. C 1 m Roberts s - had received a letter f ri_Im George Sch 1 echt and wanted to know if George Shank has seen it. George Shank - yes, and after Henry told him about the special application and what he had to do, he went to the engineer. After that he went with the engineer plans because that was a big expense. Some of the things have not been done yet because after he got the engineering plans and health department permits, he was to go before the town board. Henry informed him that the town engineer had look at these for comments. Henry told him not to g• any further and spend any more money because you may not even need t• � have them. He told Henry that it has already happened because there is $3,000.00 there and all of the permits frorli the health department just waiting fir the town. • C l rn Roberts - wanted to know the options should the water system be resolved. Some of the other things that the engineer recommended that are not available to Lis yet. He was concerned because they Would have such a short period of time to, say 30 days shy Uld the water and sewer issue is resolved, then we only have 15 days to review all of the engineering reports, the EAF form and everything else that has to be done. At t y Perkins - your options are that you can deny the application, Or you can r °efer it to the planning Board. Before you refer the application to the Planning Board you have to make all of the findings under Sect ic- in 1303 as to whether or not all of the requirements of the permit have been met. Whether the l ocat i c-in, use, nature and intensity of operation w i l l be in conflict with the allowed uses of the zone or neighborhood. Whether the use will be more objectionable or depreciating to adjacent and nearby properties (by reason of traffic, noise, vibration, dust, fumes, smoke, odor, fire, hazard, glare, flashing lights or disposal of waste o r% sewage) than the iperat ic- in of the allowed uses of the zone. Whether the use will discourage or hinder the appropriate development and use of adjacent properties it nei ghbi,srhood Whether the nonresident ial use adjacent to an existing residential use shall be screened by a landscaped buffer strip or suitable fencing. Whether the health, safety and general welfare ::if the community may be adversely affected. These will all have to be considered and signed off on. TB3 -5 -92 page 9 • Atty Perkins - in 45 days after said hearing the Town Board shall `% either deny the application for a special permit or shall refer Such application to the town Planning Board. Upon a determination by the Planning Board that the applicant has fully complied with all such provisions and requirements, the Planning B• lard shall recommend in writing the final approval of the application to the Town Board. As a Town Board You will make the initial determination that you want to allow a mobile home park under the special permit section i-. 1f 1303. If a 1 1 of the questions are answered in the affirmative then you refer it to the Planning Board. The Planning Board will then 1i.-jr.1k at all of the provisions on the mobile home park ordinance t• � see if all of the plans have been met. You will have to make the SEOR determination before you approve the application. A determination dr Jes riot need to be made if the application is denied. Clm Roberts -• the Planning Board would be the Wines to make sure the engineers concerns have been met. Atty Perkins - it wi.-juld be the engineer who Would make sure the engineers concerns are met. He can advise the Planning Beard abut the design and adequacy and answer any questions they have about it . Clm Corrigan -- .just by the act of our referring the special permit to the Planning Board we are creating another exempt ic.in to an already existing statue, correct. So we set a precedent every time we d� � that. Atty Perkins - ni-J, because first ::if all you have to answer the question for municipal water and sewer. There are two questions that have to be answered, one is that you have a threshold quest i,_in about whether you have t� � deny this Out of hand because there i s no pri_nv i s i on for municipal water° and sewer services. You can deny it and that is the end. if the applicant says that he will build the municipal water and sewer services to state health department requirements and town requirements and will dedicate it to the town so that they will have a municipal water and sewer service. If that happens then you go through all of the Section 1303 questions. Once you have done that yi.-ju refer it to the Planning Board, The Planning Board will work with the engineer at that point and wi -Juld sign off on all requirements in the mobile home park c-rrdinance, all requirements for municipal water and sewer, etc. When it comes back with their recommendat i r.in then you must approve it. Clm Baker - what provision do we have that he is going ahead to create municipal water and sewer. Atty Perkins - it would be up board know what direction he letter or same plans t o that applicant has 45 days to act. to the applicant to let plans on taking. He can effect of his intention, the town give us a The 7� i P TB3 -5 -92 page 10 Clm Baker - that is the only way that we can proceed, is that if we can find this out. George Sch1echt they are Shank - that will have not he will would have to to answer. Are have to get be a question that George these plans adequate arid if back with his engineer• and bring them up to specs. Rd. have to Atty Perkins - if you are Unwilling to go the route of municipal water and sewer, then this board does n• it have a choice. It must deny the application. George Shank - right. Atty Perkins - if you are willing to do that, and he is not suggesting that you spend a lot of m oney. You wouldn't d� � final drawings, you would do a conceptional plan now and get some cost estimates, etc. and the preliminary study. If you u i nd i cat e that you are going ahead for municipal water and sewer to the the Town Board, then the Town Bayard will make the determinations under Section 13CM. Once it is referred to the Planning Board you Would work with them in detail all of the provisions set forth in the mobile home park ordinance. George Shank. - right. Roy Rizzo - wanted to know if this was ever done before. Atty Perkins - Jim Ray did in Varna for his mobile home park. Roy municipal Rizzo - would that water and create anything sewer system would - rn,1, he would that the if residents he put in a along Wood Rd. have to connect in the next 5 or 6 years? The Atty Perkins if this - rn,1, he would only design way the system for the use of his park. The town would own the lines that they are in the ground and the treatment plant and storage and answered tank facilities. the negative that They will own, maintain willing and be responsible and charge that will back to the residents in the trailer again. park. George Shank - if this still is cost prohibited for doing it that way what other options to change the does he have? Atty Perkins - the other option is to ask the town to change the mobile home park i_nrdinance. His belief is that they considered that question already this year and answered it in the negative that they were not willing to do that. That is not to say they will entertain that question again. George Shank - his guess at this point he will have to give the 40 plans back. to Henry so that he can see what needs to be done in that aspect. TB3 -5 -G2 • George Shank - left up to me it over or% can and we really page 11 if they do riot to maintain it? they .just say don't want to want to At this you come take it over would it be time do they have to take up to our specifications Atty Perkins - the ordinance states municipal water arid sewer and the town would have to yawn and maintain it as long as they were built to town specifications and approved. Atty Perkins - you should keep in mind the rea requirement that there be municipal water and exchange for having an increased density in a the concentration ot h er than on individual 1 � •t have the municipal systems because you are goi and more intensive use of a piece � � f land so t to get more benefit out of each 5,000 sq ft. coning behind the sewer services. In mobile le horse park s you will have to ng to have greater hat you are going George Shank - the way he has gone abut this is backwards and he realizes that. He didn't realize the ordinance and the way you wanted to do it. The thing to d• � was to go to the Town Board and have them decide -.1n it before it went to the Zoning Bivard, he realizes that. He wi:iuldn' t have had to spend the money that he has already spent. . Atty Perkins - it should riot have gone to the Zoning Board at all. This is 1ne reason to have the public hearing and that was why he was trying to probe into what YO Ur intent was. Clm CC'rrigari - Would like to talk with Jim first and see what was on his mind. George Shank - he thought Jim's intention was that it was gone about the wrong way and that as a individual piece of property to look at it that way. If the requirements were met they could look at it in that respect, riot as setting a precedent as far as the rest of them g• He did riot know if that could be done. If you cart l ook at that as an individual piece of property and say under special permit application there is certain criteria that has to be met before it even gets to the Zoning Board. Atty Perkins - Jim's meeting written to Mr. January 14th, y, urn req recommendation was tha but we w i l l be r^ev i ew i as to our decisi� in. At rezoning request. letter written after the January board Shank states that at our meeting on Liest was discussed. The Town Boards t we set the decision aside at this time, ng it in the future and keep you informed ty Perkins believed that was regarding the George Shank. - if you rezoned that particular piece of property would that set a precedent for some other area? is *-;L� TB3 -5 -92 page is • Atty Perkins - they wouldn't rezone, but change the mobile home ordinance. Mobile homes parks ar,e riot allowed i n RB1 zone, so that is another problem. Z.O. Slater - he looked at is as an expansion of an existing no ricon f orrii i rig use and w0 U l d require a variance. George Shank - there were several things that had to be met to even be considered by the Zoning Board. Atty Perkins - what questions did the zoning board address? Z.O. Slater - the expansion without the implementation of municipal water and sewer. Atty Perkins - what did Mr. Shanks application request that they vary, what provision? Atty Perkins - the ric.it ice of decision states that he carp expand his existing park. Co entry Manor Estates by 6 mobile homes lot sites without municipal water and sewer available to these lots and is requesting a variance to Section 2.2 of the mobile home park ordinance � �f the Dryden Town Zoning Ordinance. If this is all that was considered then there is another question as to whether or riot expansion carp be allowed of a noncoriform i rig use. ® George Shank - this should be resolved since this has gone through once. Atty Perkins - he is in a RB1 zi.- ine and mobile le home parks are not allowed in a RB1 zone. There is a mobile home park there so that park is an existing noncoriformirig use. A nonconforming use existing at the date of adoption of this � irdinance may be extended or enlarged to adjacent lands owned of record on the effective date of this rirdiriance by special permit. You would have to � find out whether or riot the lands which are to be expanded were corit inur.,usly awned by Mr. Rizzo or his predecessor Mr. Shank continuously. No special permit or variance allowing mowing the construction or enlargement � �f a nonconforming use or structure shall be granted by the Town Board or the Zoning Board of Appeals unless the regulations-of the ordinance, other than allowed uses (i. e. , density, years, parking, etc. ) for the district in which said rn.inconforming use is located, can be substantially complied with. Roy Rizzi-.1 - wanted to know if it made any difference because all of the electric lines were laid out years ago but never finished. George S on going It's riot • been the added or, hank - according to Henry anythir project f o rn over a year is cons i like it would be grandfathered i use of that piece of prr.1pert y. I and now he wants to expand. g that has not been an dered to be abandoned. ri, but that has always t was not like it was 43 TB3 -5 -92 page 13 Atty Perkins - a case Renssea1er County and haven't got the stuff have no rights even if have to be finished. George Shank. - that is for expansion because heard by the Appellate Division in decided last and we all to be the October was squarely on if you in the ground least and the lots developed you it was laid parks and municipal out earlier. water is They actually one of the provisions under the variance they are losing money on the park. Clm Baker - they did three findings 1- conditional approval subject t� � T� ilpkins County Health Dept approval 9 all ether requirements for trailer park expansion must be applied for and adhered to and 3- no neighborhood opposition, although sixteen mailings were mailed t o ad.j acent neighbors. Leased on those findings the ZBOA approved Mr. Ri zzo' s application to expand his present mobile home park by E lots. They were using the health departments expertise to pri.-itect the neighborhood in terms of health and safety. The other was to make sure that all the park expansion be enforced and the whole mobile home ordinance be addressed. Atty Perkins - Mr. Shank also needs a special permit application to expand in a none info arm i rig use RB 1 zone, Section 1701. Z.Q. Slater - wouldn't this be a mute point if he doesn't decide •to install municipal water and sewer. Atty Perkins - yes, but we could hold the public hearing on a 5 day notice and do it before the board makes their decision at the April meeting which within the 45 days. You could schedule the public hearing for that night and do it all at once. We still need the threshold question answered. George Shank - he realizes that the nether S parks were allowed that and you are saying that each time you are doing that you are breaking it away but, it has already been allowed. C1m Corrigan - asked Atty Perkins about that and they do riot have any bearing r.m the subsequent ones. Atty Perkins - if you look by it, and - what happened was that those two expansions were allowed and we all to be the when then the has they shouldn't have been. There is at least municipal this even then say go before sewer for each of those parks and municipal water is available t� � one anyway. There is a great possibility that the water district will go in. George learn Shank. something - if you look by it, and at allow this particular the health project department and we all to be the Judge, well that then the has next time been done wrong something in comes the past up like and riot this even then say go before the boards. i' 9H TES 3 -5 -9` page 14 Atty Perkins - the town correct this problem. J decide to go ahead with coordinate getting any �t and that will be held i decision. has already internally taken steps to ust so that everything is clear that you the municipal water and sewer Henry will her special permit application from YOU n April when the beard makes their George Shank - what are his options if it is too cost prohibited? You are looking at something that will cost $1001000-00 to pit i n. Atty Perkins - he can't make any decisions for him. If it costs too much m oney that is a decision that you have to make. Whether it makes economic sense to pursue a project that doesn't have a good return. You are not prohibited to use YO LW land for other lawful purposes. George Shank - there is only three and one half acres left and there is no road fry �ntage. Atty Perkins - if you go with municipal water and sewer you get i one l ot for every 5,000 sq ft. yo u are still thinking that you will only get 6 lots. Roy Rizzo - we are trying to leave the trees in there. George Shank. - his intent was to make it better living space and not to try and squash there in there. He sees the point, but he does n ot want more trailers i n there. Atty Perkins everybody in okay we all you have mun George Shank making a dec that is the policy dec the town. If you want to w you to use these small icipal water and sewer. the board is going to ision? isi� �n that ap have a mobil lots and the be looking at plies to e home park, trade off is this and Atty Perkins - the ball is in you court on what you are going to do about the municipal water and sewer. Ad,j our ^ned 7a 15PM Susanne Lloyd Town Clerk