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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1990-12-06PUE ;L I C HEAR I NS #1 DECEMBER G, 1994) General Lam l i n1 i t ed Ent. Corp, S Lr pv SCh U q ca 1 1 ed the meeting to order at 7 : OOPM 9upv Schug read the ril =itiee that was published in the newspaper to c.- resider the applicatii�irj of David Jilson (copy in mi.ani.tte book) QUESTIONS !AND /OR C41D MENTS Dave Jilson -° right now he iE d architects as a consulting errigi from Sarby Mullen and i a interes Working izzin a patent now in the a lot of pewiple regardinq thing like to open a new product star L:�ortis i q nmerit , This is nizzit a high orr l Y be a riewa prod uc :A slml owaroom. oi�rc� CIr`�ft ir•� ner"r�. He h,i�i terl in devea, game Categor s that they e where: he e vIDIUFrre prod and working with rented a bi�ti lding oiling pr^i= iducts. He Asp y. He hz5 spoken with have made and he would an sell these on uct place and will Clm Roberts - the applxc,�;tion states retail c, f new iterils and wa+orteiere d what it would consist tof4 also w.-in6ereci About paper products. ]Jags P,now wouI try i it t J i I E3,o n° it i how to e:lassi d like t shoyw r,q to rear ^k.est 'G herem s art the cirder^ of a gift fy it. The paper product a book. He hae just wri t 5o when the store oper-, store and wizziuld not s would be Ruthors that tten a bank grid he is s he plans or, putting Cim Ci= irrigar, - in the application it states there will be G emp1Qyees. Dave Jilson - that would be in the future if this is app+~, :,ved and everything goes well. Sopv Sehug WRrited to know if there was enough parking space available'' Z. G. Slater% " yes there 15. Qlnj Wal6ridge � wanted to k,nt)wa the amrli_trit of traffic there would be rover a day. Dave Ji le,rr -° he would eXCept abi911Ut 10 at the noost during a day. Letter frQrn lOUnty Pliir,rr,xnq " c0PY in rrrinute book. Dave Jilson - he had planned on p Lk-L t i rtg in z =ine way not ranee arid exiting to Liver ;riiare Rd. I E I� I 'I Ithaca T,�.Er•n�1 I ewcm; 123 W. state St rAec t Ithaca, New Yzkik A t t ri : Dclloina Cm t%, l._E+t a l nci s PLP-ASF PUBLISH tF7e fcF].,T,lzlwing LEOCIL„ l%JC)TTCr-1 1-I� a.�z0er1 #:IMar1, FF�.mnY Novemburn hf, 1190 and hill tl7e Ta.:rwry 17, f= I�r }�cierr. PLEASE TAKE NOTICE-- t Pi Zt the l-oWn Po4ti wi.1.1 hm!n.ld 9 puhlic, herir,iriq t+ �' rrsicle per_zaI �'4?k °rni.t f��1 -.rri David F3. ,Ji 1i�;K?n Q Eritc 1prLxse,.�, Cck'i Irjrid l = ;td, ra_ >c ;L est4031 ish a 1 igFj-� 4-Assembly alnd r,Jp3tai, I Pr ~rdurtm withirti fir, e €i. ;xtirp ll c. °rilrilE±t c i <mk Gnk�t Z ar�rJ Ftud s a, t e. r'd Of the_ Town c.i" l)r•yrf€mi• .F �cw- �er�a,l IJr�.ta,mi�rd 1:L�M I')r ~fiery, Ncw Yr.1•�Gr. �,;, J t1^ra1,;�aYl3 at tJ•pi.p SAID HEARING w.i.l.l he rreli� ��ka 7'F��JJ��D�IY bE +�;er�ila��^ �,tI,* i'��[.� ;,h, 7: €:�i� P. 1+7, pr ~evai�ir,q tirrl 4 t the !}r ycf r� 'r; Vjr•, kiaZl S F M 4L.1 xri qtr rrF =i l r•yd�?rl, New Yank, at which time �.l i a.rrter�eiz tpri Far?k "saM�s ��+i l l PZ F given are npp�,rmt�.Rrit tP? bP heak4r.I. F'ek•� r may appma1, ii, F� t'r�` ;� =,� -, b agent. t* DATED: Novpiak3e1% l G t h, 1-?':-'MlY M. ,Slater; Zoning offie+*k� Town, of L' }r'•yden TB 12- 6 -90 page P Gerald J i 1 SLior' man - once he gets e tabl fished is this going to he opQi) to any type cif boob as what happened before with the adult book store, was considering Dave J i 1 scjr - he Would not be interested i n ar,y books of that type he was considering books late on sports. He had written a batik on bawling hours. and ni-iw plans a book 1 =1ri Igolf. Clm Walbridge - wanted to krii -iw what hCIurs he considiztlrred on being open_ Dave Jilson W he would like 9AM doors not f -iresee any late hours. Closed public heaririq to 5PM and maybe on weekends. He PUOLIC HE=ARINS #2 DECEMgER 61 1990 proposed Li =cal Law 02 - 1390 supv Schuq - read the notice that Was published in the newspaper to corsider wI oposed Local Law #a, 1990 (copy in minute book) QUESTIONS AND/OR COMMENTS Robert Leech m- wa7rits to know how a survey will change any immif the 1Zt4Rternents in this proposed 1 oca 1 law, He has 6 acres of land on crie lot' and went to ZELGA fc;r a variance sin that he could bl-� iG ld a second dwal l ing. Whether or rict that is sur a ed} B) often the second or sUbsegUent structures with dwelling units are Used fOr rental purposes, - he did ni_it think that this was anyones darn bus a,ness as t _a whether it is used for a r`eirjta 1 purposq i .-fir if it is a vacation home. C} such second or Subsequent dwelling are Often not served by public water, sewer or roads - hitiw was the first one served znd what iS gi =iiirlg to change that if it is sur °veyvd. How about emergaracy vehicles, what is thy: survey going to dry abc-lut that, there is ril= ithing tied in with th8t. E) what is a survey going to do about ,kdequate a�Cess, waist' or sewer services, he is wasting his time goiLn g ors herLm and wants Sii:DmaQne to answer these. Gi_[pv schlxg T whermr_+ di yrlra set that it has to be sL&jrveyed. Rizibert Keech if y:,lmk have it Surveyed than you have a 1=it. He wi,{,uld have to have Gsrzirge corile and survey this and make another lot so they arm legal. He will 'ni=it be legal if this bLacomrys a law of brmaking up the parcel. He wariti:i the answer to this question. Ll i 0 James W. Hanson, Jr. Commissioner of Planning T6MP AS.= ' ounty DEPA x`11 ENT F PLANNIN 1. Rigos Pluildi ig A, 361,Harris S. x }ates Drive Ilheca, T" i'iSrk-149 0.r M E Al A R A N D U M T0: Henry M. Slater., Zoning Officer, Town of, T?ryden FROM: ,lames Hanson, Commissioner of Plannin� RE: Zoning Review Pursuant to Section 239 -1 and —m of the New York State General Municipal Law. DATE: November, 30, 1990 Proposed di.scretionay action: SPECIAL PERMIT REVIEW of Application by General Retail Enterprises Corp_ at 298 Cortland Eoad, Dryden, NY. ' Tax Map. No. 36- 1.12.1 Telephone (607) 274 -5360 This Memorandum acknowledges your referral of the proposal identified above for review and comment by the County Planning Department. ZONING REVIEW, pursuant to New York General Municipal Law, Section 239 -1 and —m. 'l'he Proposal as subroitred will have no significant deleterious impact on intercom - murlity, County or state i- nterests. Therefore, no recommendation is indicated by the County Planning Department and you are free to act without prejudice. However, in reviewing the Site Plan we see some potential. confli -et of traffic entering and leaving the ;xte. Our suggestion is that only right turns be permitted from Rt. 13 onto the site. we will be glad to assist the developer in this natter, .]wkl : ys Copy: file toRof. 'r lrrf �arrf�pr i NOTICE OF PUBLIC HEARING ON PROPOSED LOCATE LAW 000 2 OF THE YEAR 1990 LEGAL NOTICE IS HEREBY GIVEN that the Town Hoard of the Town of Dryden will hold a Public hearing at the Town Hall, 65 East Main Street, Dryden, New York, on the 6th day of December, 1990, at 7:45 o'clock P,M. prevalling time, to hear all interested parties and citizens for or against the proposed Local Law which would provide for the regillation of the use of parcels of land for no more than one structure with dwelling units. The text of said Local Law is as follows: 1. Findings. The Town Board of the Town of Dryden hereby finds ) That some parcels of land within the Town have had constructed on then more than one (1) structure with dwelling units; B) often the second or subsequent structures with dwelling units are used for rental purposes; O) Such second or subsequent dwellings are often not served by public water, public sewer or public roads; D) The privately maintained driveways or accesses to these dwellings units are often insufficient for emergency vehicles toand are poorly maintained by the owners or landlords; E) Allowing multiple structures to be used for dwelling purposes can one panel of land may lead to difficulty in the future where provision had not been made adequate access, water acrvice and sewer service, F) The construction of multiple structures on a single pax-aal of land has lead to }problems in identifying the addzvesses of such $ tructures for emergency purposes as well as for other purposes; G) Multiple structures on one parcel of land are now permitted under the Town of Dryden Zoning ordinance without obtaining subdivision approval; H) The orderly development of land within the Town and the health, safety and welfare of its residents and occupants of structures depend on complete and thorough analysis of the impacts of the construction of multiple structures on one parcel of land including adequate provisions for water, sewage disposal., drainage, access, traffic flow, density and other erviranmental impacts associated with such construction. 1) This Local Law is adopted to protect the health, safety and wrelfare c all residents of the Town of Dryden and to promote the orderly and appropriate growth and development of the Town and to regulate the density of parcels of land. t 0 40 2. Definition. For the purposes of this Local Law, a parcel of land shall be deemed a tax asap parcel as shown by the official Town of Dryden Tax Maprp. 3. PKobibition. Anything in any other Local Law, Ordinance, Rule, Regulation or Requirement of the Town of Dryden to the contrary notwithstanding, no parcel of land shall contain more than one (1) structure with dwelling units. 4. Kaxiance. Any person, fire, partnership, corporation, or entity aggrieved by the application of the provisions of this Local Law may apply to the Town of Dryden Zoning Board of Appeals for a use variance from the provisions of this Local Law. 54 _Effective Date. This Local Law shall take effect upon its adoption and filing as provided by law. 'own Board of the Town of Dryden by r- Susanne Lloyd, Town Ell 0 i HOMEJ3�11I-DF A%SQCIATI0NN of Tom PKI S ORTLAND C09S — 1465 k1F.C_KLENBURG ROAD.. ITFIACA, !\JI W YOKK 14850 113A VOTE 'C01 'l.ANI COUNTY FR.OPO ED i_'_FI {'I�I..i FBI } #2 TEN REASONS '1'o VOTE NO ON FR.OPO ED LOCAL LAW #2 REQUIRING A VARIANCE FROM 'r ME BZA ANY TIME A SECOND developers DWELLING 4nd IS PLACED ON A lapT our right to affordable 1+ Tf•t4�, decision appropriate growth the hands of a Appeals for determining and select development few members what is of the of I:Eie an `]'own, Board " ... or.,derlu , " will of Zoning and be iri 2. Potential danger exXstw that only housing for the wealthyv and widdle class will be consi,dez•ed appropriate 3. The proposal proposed represents law is an a for home owners and developers housing Measure 4nd wi,J.J. limit costly and elaborate prrocedure 4, The proposed law is an anti affordabie housing Measure 4nd wi,J.J. limit our right to affordable housing 5. No demonstrated need for this law ex:Lsts 6. Existing local and shire laws and building codes already regulate horsing in an equitable not arbitrary fashion 7. More regulations mead mode costly housing for -the public S. Board of Zoning Appeals would have the sole authority to determine if a second dwelling is appropriate to ",,.the orderly development of land within the mown. , ." 9. The proposed law offers an sir.bitrary approach to the question of zoning issues 10. Zoning issues need to he addressed as part of the entire Picture of land use, not, as a piecemeal solution to individual, case problems at 4T 111114 r TLS 12 -6 9() page 3 Bruno Schickel - rneraber =if the Homebuilderc� Assn +c. of Tompkins/Cortland Co, Also a membear of To.mpkihs Cinurity affordable advisory heard. He gave the board members a copy 1 :1f the reascir,s to vent a no on the pv'oprrsed lcica l law. (copy i n Minute boom) Brvno Schickel - there are going to be additional tests Incurred tri d somethirlrl that he has a right tl,l do at the present time. He is cor+cerned Fkbrziut affordable housing and dries not see,* any demonstrated rased for the law to exist, YtiiFa r•�felr L�=, e.hMeT^gency vehicle,, water arid sewer accassn ghat is the difference between an crfleTg9VnCy vehicle netting to �Fk house that has a 400 fart driveway that is not mairitai,ned ci-impared to a sil.r. ation 11ke this. He dries not see a di'Ffe:rmencinm� there. The gLLe %Sticrr Of the access for water and sewer;, ycu carp prat a water t�Lrid sewer pipe anywhere and does not see this as 4 serious iSSLLe here. The existing state and heal laws already regulate hi�,.k5ing and they feel that they are adequate arid day not need an arbitrary law to augment that. More regul�ktl0rre meal, mF_ire costly htiousing. Every little thing that is piled izin c_iroes at a crlr�t and the qu+astion is, is it worth it. He understands that this proposed raw is a response t o a spsc i f in problem. em. This takes a very broad brush and Paints a Very limited problem. He wc,uld SU.q.qO3t that there are much rnor•in offeative ways to saslve the individual probierms that exist and would enceur8ge thy+ board to des this. You shOLLI f be looking for ways tizzy decrease the cost of h LLSinq. -this is the f urid �trneni: a l responsibility of town g r_ivernmerrt wh i oh has sip l e grower over land U15P r991.1 l at ions to have ways in which we taro bring the hiziusing costs down. If we have a pvr oblehl then, lets solve it in 4�k specific and limited way as possible. Roger' Beek - wanted to know if this proposed law was drafted by the full town bi:ard and then presented for a public hearing. When, he read though the notice �Fkrid took a look at the findings, he was appalled that sinrrle part of the land in the town was cilr,structed with rncrl= than °trig dwelling unit and wanted to know if this was a problem. Does the bi rd corrskder this to be something wrong. There are a lot Of parcels of land that have mitre than one. dwelling unit on it. Are theg,;e findings supPinsed to b4� problems in the ccmmurrity? Clm Walbridge - we are not �,Ffermri,rig to 8 house that has an a part anent iv) i t . It is t wiD se par at c structures and there are certain, individuals in tine towrF whi_, ar-e having sizeable rental u nFits and getting around regulations by having it on r_ane parcel.. Roger Beck - is t to what the pr'cbl hi;1101,se he assumes land has tit be zw beyiwind this is h at L JA hat treat �'Rl of tha they W I 1 red for° t he is not ing t i ha h it S@ pri°,In1C:msl' He cannot get a grasp as s. If they are building an apartment ve ti =i get a building permit anti the kirFd Of ijse. Is theyLe sCImeth r Ing i n _q F CRV T812 -6 -90 page 4 Supv devel,lped SchuR - there with are poor drfve%ways prwlblVFaS with and arias that peoplim buying are have the houses been and then wanting the town to plow the road later -in finding out that the ti-iwn how dries riot own the road and wam rever bA_illt to be i-irie. Roger Beek - if somerorie chooses ti buy a h0use that is not on a town rciad then that would be a matter~ hintwei:,�ri thAt indi idval. arid the person he bought the Ftieuae front. This ehould not have to be town bueiness. If he chose ti buy a hO�J,e thzt is net served by a town roars then he wiiziuld have ti_, For °ril some errarigenje ,t with the appropriate Persimin cir a neighborhood group too have the r:jad plowed or he would have to plow it himself. It seems that the town board has better things tls address them that. M not served by public water} or sewf�r• - we have the health diepartment which is legally empowered to take tarry of insuring that any dwelling has potable water and you C�,�tri ncit build a he use or' r~c�rrjt a house urrlozs it has an approved water tR�Uppl . The County HecAIth Dept takee core of that and the same way with the sewer. if y=iu don't have pub l i rm water arrd SF.5WRk' y zzi u have plenty �,i f re g u l antt i inns that take Care of these =in the county leech. If he is wrong he would like sornoone on the bcizrd to corm; t him & Lim WEk1bridge - there are repsu1ations and it varies as3 to their wipini-iris as to how effective the health department is'. Roger Beck -- if the health dpartment is rrr,;it deirir4 thE�:ir j�-b they, we should do somethirirg about that. See our county representamitivs=s and heath departrriLzrrit cifficials and fist that. H) the orderly developrn�?rrt of land within the Ti =iwri and the health, safety and welfare of its residents and ecCLLpants ci= str UC!tur0S depend ors ci- implete and thorough �zrrialysis of the impacts of the constrUCtion. He sees that the number of regul at i ciris that aray potential builder of a palace has ti_a go through is Dften prohibiting people on the lrFw end of ths; economi,t scale of being able to have �kriy home. Often they are not well adversed with dealing with repul��tian* arid they PUri up against a brick wall. They are pe =plc beComing fri.I.strated with having to deal with any papLor� work at all ��tnd th+_ nL res,_A is thcit they are farted into a situation that they end +.ap withcir.1t tha privilagf_ of ever becorrsing a hizimeowr,Lzr~ and paying rem all f their~ lifer+ orw living in scmLz other conditions. The r�esulte of this are detrimental to the health, saf9tyr arid welfare of this cemmirtriity and we see the evidence of that vtll rvc�r�, People became frustrated because they cannot get a foot up 1 =1rj t1le rung -if a lzrrdder to rise ecirDnl- mically. This is what we shi= i�.LId bc� addr" asir�g instead w�f making it more cfifi�i, cult to raise yourself financially. He hopes that the bi -lard considers this str'origly and net adopt this proposed 1 i -,c4R 1 1 aw. Norman Hya t t x 216 V i r; g i l Fed - is there an �5t i mat q kric,wri R5 to Bows rrPuch additiurial tax revenue this might raise? TEIZ -6-90 page 5 Charles Leonard, Hanlrar-ind Mill Rd . as he loizzik.s at the law you are trying to tweak a lot of lard dawn for tlkx pur °pones in order, to generate nore taxes. In dealing with the safety aspect, their lure a few miles out =if town and they do not have any ni�ighbor Ei and they like it that way. Faart of the acceptanep Of living where they live is the acknowledgment that if they have a f i Y`e the place will probably bUrri, but that is why they have in *urlance. They have 3evereLl acre there and i=ine of their thoughts was that in the 'Future th7ey Mould like to build a summer cabin back away from their house in the woods. They do not carp to have access with a. road, and will certairt ly never qet pub IIc water there. When they build their surnmer cabin they will have to get a sewer permit and the puhl is health department will take care of that. To h,�ve ecirnecine come in and sUrvey their land into a separate entity for them tizz do that iS pUshing the cost iap. If there are people living ire the town that are not adequately served by roads for arnb�t l ance5 because the landowner or land I Gird of �� dwel l irio does ra�,t make the driveway passible, etc i:hse issues should be addressed tri those individuals and make them bring their property up to standard as oppiosed to rnak,ing it difficult and experiSive for anycine that w�r�ts t� build in the future, Supv chug - your suggestion is ti.1 ma lit it m1 =1re specific 1;ri ' sclrfle nLmo Charles Leonard -- yew, r irjht v)ow he+ owns an apartment housn end he has put a lCit of monE_+y irito it make it nice and deers not see why anyone else who owns apartment houses to rent o+-At that they should ta}e.e care of them and make thsm safe for the pLaople. If there are per =iple in the town that are reluctant to do so} he thought that it woulcl be rnor�e appropr~i.ate tc, g1 tf�l those individuals and fi:irce them to bring tick:ir pri.iperties up to code Or up to some standard for emergency vLhicl� +s. If they don't have nurribers or soha a` foram of i dent i f i cat i cart that is reedily available to tyre ambulance and fire, make t h -use propert ies be brClught Up t Q 5tarid�rd as oppolsed t1:1 surveying the sand. It doeso riot make any sense as fat' aS making the place safe. If that is the intent of this i zither than to generate mcire taxes, them it Mould {fie IDetter to have y-U address thoHz -3 issues directly, upr Schug as far z generating mrpre taxes, if the ecorid or third hultSes ar,e bUi It i -in the same parcel �.ii= iraeh4,w the tax assessrir krows and is assessed acQ1 =1rd i ng 1 y. floger� Hatfield wanted tip krli-iw if this law is adopted will it super cede all'of the i,ither Zoning regu],atiorj4.a or is this an addit il-irizI arhgq as far as the htinimUr,i site limit should be. Are we going to have tO go thr ~ough a riiinirriUm 5 acre lot in Order to get subdivision 4�Rppr i -iva1. Is TEIE -6 -90 page E 10 Supv Schug � this will not ;effect subdivisior, apprF_va1. Mao Lc�rzeri, 157 r-11ie Hollow Rd I) to regulate explicit the density of Parcels rf land. have He did mot see anything in the proposed lrtw that affects how many parcels of land exits and YOU JUSt zai.d that thane is nothing in this proposal that affects. He wondered if that was a mistake and you real l Y mean the density of housing on lot!; instead i'nf the density of parcels of land. There would be no change in lots. Atty Perkins � the intent iS try regulatE ihn number ;.if dwellings that carp be placed are one particular parcel. Mac Larsen - there is nothing that i nci i cat es gre7rid father i nth any existing units. So that any one that has more than pane unit on a parcel would have to apply for a variance. Atty Perkins . it would be an existing nonconforming use. The Town Doard can not make anything unlawful that which already exists. M= Larsen - what criteria is there f-ir a Vajrianee. Is there explicit criteria that is indicated that the �rorpinig board would have to fol jL�w. Atty Psrki,ris . a person whin seeks a variance from the provisions of this 1 -ica 1 law would have to apply for a use vcar i arce. To obtain a use variance the appl icartit wizziuld have to show that he uOUld not use the land for anY other lawful purpose if hek complied with all of the regulaticirrie. Mae Larsen � when he purchased his property 3 yei`krs ago of 4.4 aerws he checked to see whether or ricit he could bin�i4ld a second 1101.1SLta and at that time we Could. If this passes then he could still do that but it would haave to be subdivided which adds tin. the cost. Yizziu said rentals were a problem, but this p ro polzed law does not address rentals directly, As we get more arid more people we are going try have+ to finds ways to har7dl, these pemiple and provide therm with affordable housing. This seems tim be izirp nnora thing that da=les riot do this. It seems 'ho be aimed at swims sor %t of Problem that Xs alnROst 7 hidden agLarlda. Is i,t part Cif the purpose to cornr�ect the weakness of the county health department, it shouldn't be. If they are weak and not doing their ,job you should get aLfter them and finake sonne changes there and insist that they do their .ji =lb. If the rental unit is the kind of thing that rtieeds> to ba� addressed that is what should be addressed nlitire directly t h6�Ari this prophn5ed 1 Ica 1 jaw. Clifford Ncirt addressed. Wh the le6Ast abl you will find size and road F-1 � the -Lnipactm errs we see the La tc, deal with that there ar frontaoe. Thi Orr this has }yet Smp4�tCt it is it. If You are e already pr ov i s s is before they to be fully ng tLw-) impact people addressing land use, ions fOr a minirrrurrt ICt work with the health TB12-6 -90 parge 7 department that have their -.awn set of rules. These are things that arse alrezdy in affe:et and they are required ti work with. If there are sr.1me existing problems in the town he wiwik,t1d suggerst that these problemis that were started either previi.-lus to tyre currEunt r uli,r,gs r-ir were done in defiani::Le of the Current rulings and any additional rules will further complicate things. Pri example Of someone living in a rm :lbile home with plans tim� build a permiRrerit Structure arid event rally MOVE,? up thr:�i,tph their hard wrrk 4�knd.di1ir�enee. As the proposed law is presented an irldividuall would rive 1LO dispose =if the rrrobile hi =,rne before they started crr-instruction r2f their perhr,��%rieritt residence. You have someone wiDr k. i n g hard t r� i n g to better t heriise 1 ves arid this law would put them at a point where they were lzupposed tri exist for a certain amount Of tirire with ril.,i house becai,r,e they would be unable t ocrrpy their�tistir� one while they were trying t war ^k qtr their; second arse. Fire - ether^ example weld be a farmer with several hundred cries and a son who wanted to build his . wn house or, the land ti work. the firm, r�s would be puttying the farmer in the posit i era "W f subdividing his land and 90ing thrar.crgh the expr%nse of a S!WrVEY and closing, dFheds and poLssible losing OL-g exemptions simply for^ his sern to bui Id hi5 awry hCILLSe to be able to stay on the farm and help with the farming OPeraticns. He sees a lot of negative impact from sor��ething that he hropLms was intended to makcz this a better commurity, `'1911 'residential builder in Tompkins Co. - every regulat ic:r, that they have tizzi fare iriCreases the cost anti seems urrnec2ssaryu There are fewer and fewer farms in the county and is being less passible to deal with farming, One inf then ways the farmer has to deal with r•cta.rerjierat is tO yell off parts of the land If the h�{s to s�abdi de farme^ i and sell off a 1cD acr4Lta parcel ti.wi sorrreone who wants to build �� hr�r��e it will cmist 4knd thL*t,Q gees the woney that he hits in the bank. It seems that this pr'opr-�secl lacy Karts to IIPF'it rental Ur,its. If the pernple in the town want tim, l unit rent a} ur°rits it would seem a limit easier- a.rd a `&quite ble if you change your zi =fining ordinance s1 t hat there are places in the torn cohere you can have rental i.kriits. If s0me1 =1ne W8rlts a place bad Enough they can hire experts that they need arid got a variarree to get the rantai unit in a ptice where it is root Toned. This goes on all the time fi=irA the people that have the mcney and the patience to fght for• th vrLianQesi . In his experience, mist of the time they will qut the variance. So why not keep it simple, if the t1-1wrr wartm ti_ rezi�me. Don't rtrake things herd on everybody b m }tIng these little individual lFtws that have tizi be looped at, Brian Mix, Ringwoind Fed -- the issuQ tonight as affo� - %dable hcrasingm He is a young rrran trying to work. his way tip the ladder and lives in t�k rea,= inably small hl"WIuSe and dizzies riot have any Children at them pr ;ess?nt time. When Fie has children he will Hither hive to add on to h iS pr°ersent hinuse o1r4 what has been an izziption up Lcrit i 1 now was to prove furtherl bask cirt his property of ID acres and build a b i g qsr; house and rent the house that he is currently in. This law will completely eliminate that without going through the TB12W6 -90 page a hassle of hay+iy%g it surveyed which would ji,tst make it meet the regule�t ir1rris t1lat are already there as far as the road fr onl;age. This will be Just one more step that someone has to take. It has been mentirzined about the sewer systeh1 arid questioning the health department as to what is a quality -if 4R potable sFz der system. AbOLLt a m =lath ago there was a meeting with the health departrment ran the new sewer storms. As of DeQ 1st riew laws took. effect arid writhokAt any exaggeration whatsoever a persoir) buildirip a 3 bedrOOffl hou5iiiaa will crest tine third i -if the const r"uct i On ,just fi-ir the sewer system alone wrh i ch would cast fri_ rn 10r 000 to $15,000.00. Sewer systems are always going to be a question. There is no one in this room that car, a�afely say themkt they are an authority on these systems that they are @ping to wore.. This law is riot qOing to char°ige that. The systems are safe cind they are going to he the same s stinvne. This is just going ti�i be One more expen -ae for the people that can least afford it will have to payu Bill chick.el, Fergumon Rd -- he finds it rather ircinic that the torn is considering this legislation the very year that the countries of eastern Europe have been thr i -wing Off the Ll.trderI5 Of hureaQcrary and requIations that have been so troubled and burdened them. We have been cw�heerzng therrti Qn For gears in hopes that they would gelh rid cif this terrible situation. He thinks there is a certain parallel with what we are dazzling here ]in this regard in the philosim-iphy ire dcamoc,rat is socxi4t z 2 in government. Them is the principle Of subsidiary arid by that them larger agencies ir.vr bi,idies should never be doing what tha smaller; more local Specific Ores should be di =ling. Yt Seems to him the application of this pr•opOSed iaw would be that if we have specific problsfirs with fire} roads, health department, water and sewer that those bi =dies should he encouraged arid sparked tim., get or1 toheir tees and dr�i the things that need tea be dinne. You �,thould address the problems and let the uxistirLg agenclea tend to those matters itrid solve the pr :� b 1 erns rather t hart creating another tier of bureaucracy fi-ir regulations and costs. In a CFLeeping way we get tQ knew that they get tizi be troublesome?, problemat is and costly. He thinks that it would be a step in the wrong dires_tion tO make life ir>Orle c !Impl icatetJ in Dryden. He WIDUld encourage the Tclwri Es:ard not to adopted this law. Pnrnard COrneliu54 Ringwood Rd - he is concerned alb, ;,ut G} multiple strUCtures on ore parcel Of larid. He has a parcel Of land with several structures as rental iricoFfle property. If si- imething should happen to the rental rnar rat or if he snOLLld become disabled and severi�kl of these houses bLaciarflp vacant fa=ir a period Of more than One year is he going to have to Met these subdivided before he can rerent one of the hozx5es. Also does su bd i v i 5 i Or+ mi:at� ri separating. He does r5rit unicier5t and why you subdivide something SO that YIDLL Ciro sell, a piece of pre= iperty. Why she -iFald we have to gr thrciugh the subdivi5iiz.irt when you are net dividing arnything. He htis had eno�Lgh exper'ierice with the town TB12-6 -90 page 9 to know that if a piece of land is vacant for and it is just have enough cif little freedom, more than a year it goes back to nothing. After a year you can't even continue to use it for what it was designated for in the beginning. If someone should family decide residence that they and no want to rezone apartments Ringwood which this Rd. could to single happen then he would be OUt because he has 3 or 4 buildings that he has to pay taxes on. He wants it down and final that he Bernard Cornelius that you is are opposed to infringing proposed Local on his privacy. Law #k2 - 1990. He feels Burr Ripley, West Dryden Rd - feels the same way as everyone else certainly pay here for a and it is just have enough cif little freedom, another government restriction that we them and 1_1ur taxes are high enough to Ralph Varri, 471 Midline Rd - has a large parcel of land that he had intentions to build a couple of separate houses, not as rentals, but for members of the family. He does nint want ti-.i subdivide the property, but if they chi =ease to sell that house at a latter time they would then subdivide and would be situated so that they could sell it. It seems that this proposed law already addresses things that have already been done in the past and riot what is to be done in the future. You could not get a building permit until you have y_,! t septic permit. All this about water and sewer and having your house being built are things that have been ® done in the past and cannot happen now unless you circumvent the law o -if the town. The law should be more specific to issues and not take such a broad sweep of things. On Midline Rd. close to his house there were two houses that were built. The trailer stayed in place, the house went up and maybe one house took a year and a half- to build, the small house which is about twice the size of the trailer but a nice addition to the neighborhood. Fie did not think that we should stunt that type of progress, If there are specific things that the board feels that they need to address they should be more specific about it. He would like to say along with everyone else that less regulations would be a good thing for the town and the country. Rentals out in the country are the cheapest rentals you can find anywhere and they are needed. Ross Gerbasi - many of the new homes going up in the area are including an apartment over the garage or a separate building in order to have security on the premises. This should be considered as our population changes. Burr Ripley - was curious as to who the father was of this proposal, was someones neighbor bi_ti lding to close to a lot line. There must have been some reason for this. We. are eliminating our options if we have this and any time you eliminate your options your property value goes dawn because it is not as saleable. CR (0 y TB12 -E -90 page 10 ® Bob Keech - several - she months ago many of us wasted the a beautiful but she evening because someone issue came up with a foiol ish idea that we you should have minimum survey is 5 acre lets. He feels that this is about is the require all of the people to go through all the right steps, carne kind of a deal. road In fact he wiziuld wager that driveway the person correct that suggested this would even identify themselves. This is ridiculoUs and he has not had his answer yet why a survey is going to eliminate any of these problems, and he is still waiting for the answer. If that person is here please tell him what it is going to change. 0 ,0 Clm Walbridge - she is not the author that is of the the proposal, but she thinks that this issue is not only the survey. Just as you say the survey is on a piece of paper, but it is going to require all of the people to go through all the right steps, have the road frontage, make sure the driveway is correct etc. Bob Keech - the survey is not going to do that at all. The surveyor will put the lint lines on and tell the area of it and that is all. As chairman of the Zoning Board of Appeals for 16 years he found that proposals like this was brought on by the have's and they caused problems for these who have not. Clm Hatfield - after listening to all of thOLLght it would be a good idea to take board and take another look at it and he decision. Closed public hearing TOWN BOARD DECEMBER these opinions he this back to the drawing would like to table the MEETING 61 1990 Supv Schug called the t _iwri board meeting to carder Members and guests participated in the Pledge of Allegiance Roll call was by the Town Clerk: Present: Supt/ Schug, Clm Roberts, Clm Walbridge, Clm Hatfield, Clm Corrigan and Atty Perkins RESOLUT I C14 _ #284 GRANT SPECIAL_ PE RM i'r GENERAL UNLIMITED ENTERPRISES - David J'ilson Clm Walbridge offered the following resolution and asked for its adopt iorr: RESOLVED, that this Town Board grant a special permit to David Jils(:rn, General Unlimited Enterprises with 1) "Boiler Plate Conditions" adopted 7- 10 - -qc7; 2) the entrance be from Rt 13 and exit be on Liverm_ ire Rd; 3) this special permit is for David Jilson cminly and is not transferable. 2nd Clm Hatfield Roll call vote - all voting Yes CR 63 r. 0- NOTICE OF PUBLIC HEARING ON PROPOSED LOCAL LAW NO. 2 OF THE YEAR 1990 LEGAL NOTICE IS HEREBY GIVEN that the Town Board of the Town of Dryden will hold a public hearing at the Town Hall, 65 East Main Street, Dryden, New York, on the 6th day of December, 1990, at 7:45 o'clock P.M. prevailing time, to hear all interested parties and citizens for or against the proposed Local Law which would provide for the regulation of the use of parcels of land for no more than one structure with dwelling units. The text of said Local Law is as follows. i. Findings. The Town Board of the Town of Dryden hereby finds. A) That some parcels of land within the Town have had constructed on them more than one (1) structure with dwelling units; B) Often the second or subsequent structures with dwelling units are used for rental purposes; C) Such second or subsequent dwellings are often not served by public water, public sewer or public roads; D) The privately maintained driveways or accesses to these dwellings units are often insufficient for emergency vehicles and are poorly maintained by the owners or landlords; E) Allowing multiple structures to be used for dwelling purposes on one parcel of land may lead to difficulty in the future where provision had not been made adequate access, water service and sewer service; F) The construction of multiple structures on a single parcel of land has lead to problems in identifying the addresses of such structures for emergency purposes as well as for other purposes; G) Multiple structures on one parcel of land are now permitted under the Town of Dryden Zoning Ordinance without obtaining subdivision approval; H) The orderly development of land within the Town and the health, safety and welfare of its residents and occupants of structures depend on complete and thorough analysis of the impacts of the construction of multiple structures on one parcel of land including adequate provisions for water, sewage disposal, drainage, access, traffic flow, density and other environmental impacts associated with such construction. I) This Local Law is adopted to protect the health, safety and welfare of all residents of the Town of Dryden and to • promote the orderly and appropriate growth and development of the Town and to regulate the density of parcels of land. �J ro 2. Definition. For the purposes of this Local Law, a parcel of land shall be deemed a tax map parcel as shown by the official Town of Dryden Tax Maps. 3. Prohibition. Anything in any other Local Law, Ordinance, Rule, Regulation or Requirement of the Town of Dryden to the contrary notwithstanding, no parcel of land shall contain more than one (1) structure with dwelling units. 4. variance. Any person, firm, partnership, corporation, or entity aggrieved by the application of the provisions of this Local Law may apply to the Town of Dryden Zoning Board of Appeals for a use variance from the provisions of this Local Law. 5. Effective Date. This Local Law shall take effect upon its adoption and filing as provided by law. Town Board of the Town of Dryden Susanne Lloyd, Town'-Clerk • TB12 -6 -90 page it RESOLUTION! #C285 PROPOSED OCAL LAW #2 - 1.990 Clrn Hatfield offered the following resolution and asked for its adoption: RESOLVED, that this Town Board discontinue the consideration of proposed Local Law #2 -- 1990 as it presently stands. 2nd Clm Corrigan Roll call vote -- all voting Yes RESOLUTION #286 ARTICLE 78 PROCEEDINGS DR7 LANDFILL_ Clm Corrigan oaffered the following resolution and asked for its adoption: RESOLVED, that this Town Board authorize Jan Kublick to enter into action Article 78 proceedings filed against DEC as commissioner with regard of setting aside the siting process which is part of the 360 hearing in Supreme Court, Albany County in an arnount rii it to exceed $5,000.00 2nd Clm Roberts Roll call vote - all voting Yes Adjourned: 9:30PM Susanne Lloyd Town Clerk. any