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TOWN BOARD MEETING
AUGUST 28 , 1990
PUBLIC HEARING # 1
SPECIAL. PERMIT m Clark - Wainwright
® Minutes of special permit hearing 7 : 00PM
S upv Schug - read the notice that was published in the newspaper
to consider the application of Clark Enterprises ( copy in minute
book )
QUESTIONS AND / OR COMMENTS
Clm Walbridge - wanted to know if this would cause any fire
h azard .
Z . D . Slater - it is a C42 structure and has no requirements for
any on site fire suppression syst ems or installations .
Clm Walbridge - was concerned about storage of oil
S upv Schug -- it is not bulk storage but in a container on
pallets . Henry is checking on the problem if someone accidentally
speared a container .
E arl Wainwright -•- is storing this now in the village and would
like to use this building as an over flow only for paper
products , oil filters , and window washer fluid .
® Brian Clark m the building will not have any heat or appliances
or furnace . It will just have lights and would not have a big
potential for any malfunction , and is a pole type structure with
metal sides .
Clm Walbridge - was concerned with the property adjoining
residential property and would like to see that a buffer zone is
maintained .
B rian Clark -• there is a natural hedge row there now and they
h ave spoken to all of the neighbors and none of them have any
objection to the storage building . Gave a petition that was
signed by the neighbors in favor of the storage building to the
Town Board .
Clrn Walbridge - wanted to know if they had any problem with
keeping the hedge row maintained .
B rian Clark. - did not have any problem , but thought that most of
the hedge row was on the neighbors property and not theirs so
t hey would not have total control over it .
Board members went over EAF• form
Clm Walbridge - Part I -- A Site Description , gr_iestion # 8 - what
is the depth of the water table . Thought that they should ask the
• neighbors so that there could be a number in feet for that
q uestion .
® Ithaca Journal News
123 W . State Street
Ithaca , New York
Attn : Donna Carr , Legal Ads
P LEASE PUBLISH the following LEGAL NOTICE no later than WEDNESDAY
August 22nd , 1990 and bill the Town of Dryden „
P EASE TAKE NOTICE that the Town Board of the Town of Dryden
will conduct a public hearing to consider a Special Permit
application from Clark Enterprises to erect a second warehouse
f acility at 161 Cortland Road Dryden , New York , for lease to the
W ainwright Oil Company of 1 Rochester Street Dryden New York .
S AID HEARING will be held on TUESDAY August 2 /nth , 1990 at 7 : 000
P . M . at the Dryden Town Hall 65 E . Main Street Dryden , New York
at which time all interested persons will be given an opportunity
to be heard . Persons may appear in person or by agent .
D ATED : August 15TH , 1990
H enry M . Slater
Zoning Officer
Town of Dryden
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Brian Clark .w when they built the other builiding they drilled
down 5 feet and there was no standing water in the holes and when
it rained it drained out fine ,
ltty Perkins - question # 8 could be answered over 5 feet .
Closed public hearing
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TOWN BOARD MEETING
RUCUST 8 , 19SO
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Members and guests participated in the pledge of Allegiance
Roll call was by the Town Clerk
present r . Supv Scheel , C1ri Roberts , Clrii Walbridge , Clm
Hatfield , Atty Perkins and Z . O . Slater
Absent : Clm Corrigan
Cornell apreevflent -- Varna water
ltty Perkins - presently there is not sufficient flow through the
e xisting water lines to adequately feed all of the water
districts . Cornell is in the process of water 1 ire improvements
and when they have constructed the water 1 ire improvements the
Town of Dryden wi 11 pay there a one time fee for perpetual use of
the water lines within the Town of Ithaca . The control of the
valve which was installed by the town a number of years ago is
currently used to only operate on an emergency basis . The town
w ill not make any payments until Cornell has made the
improvements ,
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Cia Walbridge offered the following resolution and asked for its
adoption :
hkkllkVED , that this Town Beard issue a negative declaration based
o n the SEUR review subject to the change for the water table at
over 5 feet for the application of Clark Enterprises . This is an
u nlisted action and the Town of Dryden is the lead ardency in
u ncoordinated review . The Supervisor is authorized to sign all
n ecessary documents .
end Ole Roberts t' Roll call vats - all voting Yes
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Clm Roberts ':' tiered the following resolution and asked for its
adoptions
RESOLVED , that this Town Board grant the special permit to Clark
Enterprises with the " boiler plate conditions " adapted on 7 -- 10 - 90
and that the hedge row between the properties be maintained at
least on the Clark side of the property .
and Clm Walbridge toll call vote - all vntinh Yes
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PUBLIC HEARING #2
AUGUST 28 , 1990
SPECIAL PERMIT - Mark Stevens
S upv Schug read the notice that was published in the newspaper
concerning the application of Mark Stevens ( copy in minute book )
Q UESTIONS AND / OR COMMENTS
Mark Stevens - he would like to build 3 structures for long term
storage lease to Correll University . ( Copy of letter from Cornell
in minute book )
S upv Schug - these buildings will be leased to Cornell and not
for furniture .
Mark Stevens -- he plans on leasing them to Cornell and there will
be 2 buildings 42 x 96 and 1 building 42 x 62 . There will be only
2 doors , one of which will be an overhead door can a loading dock ,
and there will be no windows . Johnsons Art Museum plans on using
some of the space in the smaller building and there will be a
security system on that building . The other 2 buildings will be
for other storage . There will be nothing stored outside and
Cornell will be the only one to lease the buildings . They would
only be making one or two trips a month to the buildings .
S upv Schug - you are not renting storage space .
IMark Stevens - no , Cornell is planning on leasing the buildings
f or 5 years and will keep renewing the lease as long as they can .
It will not be a mini storage because there is only one 36 " door
and one loading dock door . Cornell can not sign a lease over ' a 5
year term .
Clm Walbridge a what are you planning on in the future of
building can the other 10 plus acres ?
Mark Stevens - if he gees to the storage structures there is
nothing he can doountil there is water and sewer there and there
are no plans .
Clm Walbridge - are you going to build more storage sheds ?
Mark Stevens - not at this time .
Clm Walbridge a was wondering about the future and 5 years down
the road .
Mark Stevens - he did not know .
Clm Walbridge - wanted to know if this was the area that had been
clear cut and no vegetation .
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Ithaca , New \ ork
Attn : Donna Carr , Legal Ads
P LEASE PUBLISH the following LEGAL NOTICE no later than WEDNESDAY
August 22nd , 1990 and bill the Town of Dryden .
P LEASE TAKE NOTICE that the Town Board of the Town of Dryden
will conduct a public hearing to consider a Special Permit
application from Mark Stevens of 24 Oak Brook Drive Ithaca , New
York , to erect a three ( 3 ) structures for at or about 44 Oak
B rook Drive , for long term storage lease .
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S AID HEARING will be held on TUESDAY August 24th , 1990 at 7 : 15
P . M . at the Dryden Town Hall 65 E . Main Street Dryden , New York
at which time all interested persons will be given an opportunity
to be heard . Persons may appear in person or by agent .
DATED : August 15TH , 19 '90
H enry M . Slater
Zoning Officer
Town of Dryden •
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Mark Stevens -- nee , this is down the road and you can not see it
from the highway . As the road goes up and curves it is on the
lower Rt 366 side . The buildings can not be seen from any road ,
and you can only see them if you drive up the road which will be
o n the left hand side of the road . The buildings will be tan
siding with a brown roof , all steel and will only have one
loading dock , and a 3G inch door ran the opposite side of the
building . Cornell will install their own security system on the
buildings . There will be no fencing around the buildings . the
town road only goes up so far and the driveway will lead off to
the buildings , Cornell had the option if they wanted it blocked
off . Cornell is installing the security systems and feels that it
will be a very secure building .
C1 m Walbridge wanted to know of the reason for leaving so much
o pen land ?
Mark Stevens - no particular reason except if they wanted to ride
horses .
Clm Walbridge - was confused as to where the land is that he has
cleared a number of trees and built a roadway . She wanted to know
where it was in relation to the proposed storage buildings ,
Mark Stevens - went of the map with her to explain the location
and explained the 1. R.8 acres „ For the building permit there is
III 365 road frontage that goes on the permit . The road is all
finished with stone and oil , but there is no further thoughts
u ntil water and sewer is installed and this road has not been
approved . It is just a long private drive right now up to the
proposed storage buildings . Cornell will maintain the road and
plow in the winter time ,
Cam Walbridge - wanted to knew what kind of drainage plans he had
for the storage buildings and parking lots .
Mark. Stevens - the plans are existing and there is no problem
w ith drainage . The only drainage that he would have there would
be from the roof . There will be eaves on all of the buildings
Clrn Walbridge - is concerned about once it gets off the building .
Mark. Stevens - there is an existing ditch that was put in along
all of the lets above At 3G6 which Dave Putnam has done and we
have the rcaci approved that gooses from the front of Charlie Shews
past the Antlers to existing property line , and this is all on
his land . This is a 2 1 / 2 . 0 0 w {swa l e and has been c 1 can ? d once .
elm Walbridge -- [ anted to know where the water went , does the
swale end there and then dump out on the neighbor .
Mark Stevens - no , it goes to the ditch parallel to the beginning
o f the road and gooses to Rt 36E .
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E rica Evans , Turkey Hill Rd - she 'Felt that since the state has
not put in the proper drainage and since the last serious rain
there was a problem we should not add to the problem and multiply
it by granting further permission to d - MO re damage . She lives
close by the area and the way that the hill was denuded she could
see why the planning was very poor .
S upv Schug - wanted to know if anything had been done with the
state drainages problems there ,
Mark Stevens - he had a bond for the drainage like he did for the
road and the state looked i t over and said everything was fine
and they released the bond about one month {ego which the board
members have copies of . The state looked it over and they are
happy with it but he is also concerned about they size of the
pipe . They are the ones because he change! 3 pipes there along Rt
365 end they are the ones that sized the pipes for the water aged
and they are happy for what is in there . It is up to the state if
they want larger pipes in there . the state said that if there was
a deeper ditch there w '_".tid be a cruse for more accidents and more
damage could be caused .
H elen Lang , Dryden Rd - she questioned the nature of the quality
of the read itself on Oak Brook Dr which he never been paved and
there is no snow plow turn around and did not think that it met
town standards , There was at least one accident that she knows of
on flak. Brook Dr and Rt 366 when the road was extremely dirty .
There has been at least one truck partially gaff the road which
had to be towed out which she has seen , but she does not know the
complete record for it . The second problem is that there were
h ouses sold adjacent to that area , ( she did not know if the
people who bought those houses are here tonight ) but they were
sold as part of an exclusive subdivision and felt that it was
doing a great disservice to those people by devaluing their
properties to put storage sheds next to them after they have been
advertised as an exclusive subdivision . The third concern is
being a close neirihbnr to the project is the amount of noise that
she has had to put up with for the past L years . Cars trucks ,
d ump trucks , construction equipment constantly going up and down
the steep hill which is very noisy to the point where she has not
been able to use her property in the back for the past 2 summers
the way that she would like to because it was so noisy that you
could not even schedule a barbecue because you would have to stop
conversation when ever a truck went up or down the hill„ It is
e ven noisy inside the house ,
S upv Schug -- asked Mark about him selling 2 houses and living in
the third one he has built and wanted to know if those owners
were here .
Mark Stevens -- yes , he has sold 2 houses and did not believe that
thf: owners of the houses were here and as far as he knew they
w ere fairly happy with it , If there was a problem they would have
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brought it up . The accident that was on Rt 366 was not caused by
/ anything coning down the road , it was a truck. pulling in and
1� motorcycle was passing 4 cars at once and ran into the truck . The
truck that was stuck was backing into Shew Furniture and the
truck driver missed the sluice and went into the ditch . The noise
o n the barbecue , there are no trucks going up there on the
weekends and he believes that the last 2 weeks there were trucks
going up there because they had a job for NYSE & G and they have
been getting fill there . The rood has been deeded over to the
town and has been accepted . There is oil and stone on the road
and the town has released the bind on July 8th . The state has
released their bond and everything is up to their standards and
there is no problem with the read as far as he knows ,
S upv Schug -- there is a snow plow turn around because it is on
part of the easement
Tim Walbridge - wondered about hours as a condition if the board
approved this application .
H elen Lange -- she didn ' t think that you could set hours to the
people ohr WOW. Id be using these buildings and potential other
people who would be using them in the future .
Mark. Stevens - Cornell would have a 5 year lease and he believed
that they only work between SAM and hhh and didn ' t think there
w � uxd be a problem at night with trucks going up and down . There
is more than one business up that road that gets trucks because
d hew Furniture has tractor trailer' s there in the middle of the
n ight and park there until the morning to unload .
dham Retenboten , 9 Oak Brook. Dr -- ( neighbor came in late )
actually the plan involving the placement of these storage areas
h e was not aware of the size and the extent of them and is
somewhat surprised . He did buy his property with the idea that it
w as going to be a ' residential neighborhood . It does disturb him
that this would seem to alter the intent and the character of
that area which was expressed to him to be are area that would be
more exclusive acreage housing . First he heard that there would •
he a change in the acreage in the zoning which was one surprise .
H e 'thought he understood some of the intent behind that because
that would allow some building behind there . The fact that he has
e lectric and water going in there would allow smeller units to he
put up there which might assist the development of that area .
This particular project is something that he did not contemplate
o riginally when he bought his property and he does feel that it
would circumvent or charge the character of the potential growth
in that area . He would in his view , first of all objart
strenuously to this particular project and second of all would in
the event that this project is carried out have to consider his
✓ ights and remedies in the event that this did lead to a
substantial reduction in the value of his property and would also
look at the various entities that
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contemplated this particular course of action . He was not
consulted about this particular project before hand and did not
know anything about it . He ,just received a notice from the board
several days agog and he came tonight out of curiosity t o find out
w hat this is all about .
Chris O ' Connor , 143 Sapsucker Woods Rd ,- representing the Varna
Fir' s Dept . His concern is fire safety and that the 3 buildings
w ould be built in an area that is not served by municipal water
and may or may not be served by municipal wat er at some future
date located off as to what he can see a town highway with a
possible question as to what could be served by municipal water .
It is also located up a very steep driveway and difficult access
for fire apparatus . (Also , having dealt with the university before
w hatever proposal they are talking about using the structures for
in their first 5 year lease . He knows that they are lo':' kirird quite
a bit and quite hard at finding places to store hazardous
materials . They are having trouble dealing with the City of
Ithaca and Town of Ithaca . Has concern is that perhaps in the
Town of Dryden there would be a better location for such things .
Also , if there is a 5 year lease signed what happens after that
if the university does not renew the lease who knows what and who
those buildings will be rented to .
Mark Stevens -- he has the letter of intent from Cornell stating
what will be stored there and the board members have a copy . One
building Johnson Art Museum will be using to store there
2rn at er i a l .
Chris (Y Connor - the letter does not tell him what will be stored
there , but what they anticipate on storing there now and not what
they anticipate in 1 992 , 1993 , 1994 and 1995 .
Howard Evans , Turkey Hill Rd - was wondering why Cornell would do
this when normally they would build their own storage shed and
store their ONO things . The concern that the gentleman has about
living there and the idea he had when he had purchased the house ,
it sounds to him that 5 years in a shirt period of time and
things can change greatly . He was wandering why Cornell always
builds their sen storage building and yet they are going into
some lease agreement .
Die Walbridge - the board does have e copy of the letter from
Cornell that they are ,gin t i e i pat i n t on entering into a lease
agreement .
Mark Stevens - Cornell :Leases 3 buildings right now , one is
downtown , one is with hurr• uss and one on Maple Ave . right now and
their lease runs out in November and this building would wait
them better because it is closer and less traffic . Cornell feels
that it costs them about $ 58 . 00 a eq ft t o own and maintain their
own buildings , an if they can store their paper product , and old
receipts , etc at $ 5 . 00 e sq ft they will be saving e lot of
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money 50 there is no sense of taking up valuable space for what
can be stored in crates and brkEs . The art museum needs a secure
place for things that are donated to them . There is no nuclear
storage in the lease agreement and it states right in the lease
t his is their purpose and letter of intent of renting it .
D oraline Kesten , 3r Turkey Hill Rd -- understands that IYIr . Stevens
has a financial problem because the lots did not sell . She
w ondered if another use for that property would be more friendly
to the environment which she suggested a Christmas tree farm .
Mark. Stevens - he does not have a financial problem and did not
think a Christmas tree farm would be good there and would not
generate enough money to keep paying the taxes .
Mike Kesten , 35 Turkey Hill Rd - wanted to know if Mark had any
plans to replant where he has stripped further up the hill .
Mark Stevens - yes , he has top soil ready to be spread and will
all be reclaimed . Previously they were thinking about building a
h ouse there but have decided to wait awhile . It as all green
there now but he will not be planting any trees there .
Clm Walbridge - #24 Oak Brook Dr sphere you lived , wasn ' t that
initially offered for kale as a 1 . 2 or a 2 acre lot , and you were
trying to sell it as a residential lot .
Mark Stevens - in the listing he had extra / and at an additional
price , It was listed for that parcel buy they would have to buy
the rest of the land at an extra cost . Yes , for the parcel there
is the third house and it is still for sake .
Clm Walbridge - at the very least she would like to see contour
lines , drainage plans and to see where the dirt road goes up the
D ill to where the clearing is in relation to the lines that he
has on the survey map . She does not fee that she has enough
information and this enters its the EAR.= as to what the slope is
H arry Kesten , 35 Turkey Hi11 Rd wanted to know if the town, had
the right to restrict as to what will be stored there , and could
you rule out hazardous material ? If so , he would like the town
very much do soy if this permit is granted .
. upv Schug -- wanted to make sure Clm Walbridge wanted a detailed
drainage plan and more information , Also , if the board members
w anted to go over the EAIF form and scheduled another meetinti .
Mark. Stevens - he thought that the drainage was in there when
they accepted the road and the driveway up the road was in there .
There is no additional drainage problem there and has nothing to
do with the effect as to ,where the buildings will be , it is all
e xisting .
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Clm Walbridge - would like to see the contour lines and drainage
plans to make sure that she agrees to that .
Mark Stevens - if you check back on the existing map when it was
approved last time for the road , the same drainage limes are
there . The lets you have pictures of and he did not feel that it
w as necessary . The EAF impact study is filled out properly , there
is no water , sewer or anything with these buildings that can
create more water . There will only be the existing driveway that
is stone and oil surface and the parking is included because it
is net a grassed area and is stated so on the EAF and it is not
increasing the water . It is at roof line and he is going to put
e aves on and will come off properly to the surface .
Atty Perkins - did not think that the town has ever conducted any
kind of environmental review for anything beyond the existing Oak
B rook Drive . Has there ever been a project before this board or
the Planning Board for any kind of work beyond the dedication of
O ak Brook. Dr ? He did not know when the environmental review has
been done .
Mark Stevens - the same drainage that was done for the road is
the existing drainage .
Atty Perkins - there was not anything else considered at that
time only the sherd; 80 ) ft road . (Everything that has happened
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beyond the existing road has never been addressed . No permits
w ere ever obtained , no project was ever before the town board .
How can you say when you clear cut the side of a hill and put in
an impervious surface , propose to construct 3 large storage
buildings that there will not be any water generated . Everyone
knows that there will be more water generated after this project
is completed , because of the read , because of the hill side and
because of the impervious surfaces . You just can not ignore that
problem , it is not going to go away .
Mark Stevens - the hi11 has been cleared for 2 years and there
h as not been a problem there . If he likes to have it cleared
there is no law against trees being taken out , so that does not
address him at all .
Atty Perkins - you are before the town board now and they do have
a say about it and they can ask you to address those concerns .
Clm Walbridge - it is the responsibility of all of the boards of
Dryden to insure what one land owner does doesn ' t harm other land
o wners . You can do what you want on your land as long as it does
n ot cause problems on neighbors and that is why we are here to
insure that it doesn ' t .
Mark Stevens ° are we talking about the water shed area because
T O Miller did this a year ago and the town accepted it and it is
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the same exact acreage . The water drainage pipes have been put on
and the carne existing parcel . Nothing else has been cleared but
the use is changing . If there is a problem with any neighbors
then we are here to hear it . He did not think that any water was
✓ unning an any neighbor because he has put the proper ditches it's ,
The board already has the drainage plan that T H Miller did when
the road was accepted , everything is the same except for around
the building .
✓ im Walbridge - we have buildings and the upper part of the lot .
Hanley Staley , Dryden Rd - he assumes that the town is going to
h andle any drainage from the S buildings that effect the property
below , is that correct . In other words if the buildings flood out
below the town will take care of it .
Clm Walbridge -- it is the property owners responsibility .
Hanley Staley - if these buildings are in there for 3 years and
the drainage is flooding out everything below , whose
responsibility is it ? Is it the town ' s '?
S upv Schug - no
H anley Staley - why not , because you are approving it .
SLlpv Schutt - C1m Walbridge has already asked for a complete
drainage plan for the protection of the people downstream to be
presented to the board before it is voted ors . All 1 + e would do now
is ado over the environmental assessment form and give Mr . Stevens
an opportunity t ' . tome back with the complete engineering
d rainage plan to protect the people downstream .
H anley Staley - his question still is , who is going to correct
the drainage problem that floods out . the property below , the
town , Stevens or the owner ?
S upv Schug - hopefully Mr . Stevens will do it prior to any
approval that is givens by the town board . It is not the towns
✓ esponsibility , but the responsibility to insure that Mr . Stevens
does not create downstream problems .
Atty Perkins - the town board requires in approving projects ,
that rate of discharge from the project not be increased during
or after construction . There would have tc be drainage plan
provisions maude ti retain water on the site until it can be
discharged off the site at the sane rate as it would have been
before it was disturbed . This is the purpose of the drainage
study request . You would have to backtrack and find out what the
✓ ate of discharge would have been prior t , any disturbance of the
property and to have the study make recommendations by a licensed
engineer and reviewed by the town engineer to control flow from
the site .
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Hanley Staley - who authorizes this study and who pays for it ?
After the fact if it doesn ' t work who pays for it ?
fatty Perkins -- initially it is up to the project developer to de
that . The developer would continue to remain to be responsible .
Hanley Staley -- this would be in the document .
Atty Perkins - this would be a condition cf the permit .
Supv Schug - since the road has been there and y ou live
d ownstream have you had any problems ?
H anley Staley -- they have had problems , but he can ' t say that
they do right now .
Roy Staley - they have had problems on their property that he has
taken care of . There was quite a discussion about a berm at the
P lanning S '_' cr^ d when Mark wanted a subdivision and was not sure
why it got i n or what the reasons , but was glad that it went in -
H e was not sure of the original intent to but it in but if it
hadn ' t been discussed and presented with a strong bearing he
d idn ' t think that the berm would have gone in . It has worked
since the berm has gone in but prior to that he has built a great
deal of drainage around bath of his parcels . He never knew if the
board had the authority to actually have the drainage built in .
He kept track of the cost of drainage which they built a catch
basin to catch the water and build drainage around the perimeter
of the two properties that he own . At that point before ail of
t he berm had gone in a ], 1 the water was coming down at a pretty
good clip and was creating a lot of problems on one side of his
warehouse . he spent a good sum of money to do that based on the
fact that he did rot think that was something that was going to
be in the law . The only recourse he would have would be
litigation against Mr . Stevens .
S uper Sch '.ig - everything that has happened up to this point with
the exception of the road itself , the town board , planning board
and zoning board have agreed not to get involved .
Roy Stale - right now the berm is clogged on one side and they
tried to deepen it . When they cut in to deepen it they clogged it
so that it is backing up on the high side of one parcel .
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Mark Stevens - he built the berm allis T G Miller had requested and
the board has a written letter that they have certified it . This
is the road that protects all of the properties and that is why
he feels that the protection is already there .
Roy Staley - the berm has to be maintained and cleared out once
in a while to make sure it keeps its depth because it will
certainly fill in with the hill they way it is exposed . He is
concerned where they are bringing in fill and letting it sit 3 to
• years to compact .
Mark Stevens - this has nothing to do with the fill next to
S tnleys . It is approximately 300 ft from it and It has been in
e xistence for r' years now where the buildings are going . He does
n ot believe it is necessary for any more than the plan T G Miller
did that protects all of the properties from Charlie Thew past
The Antlers to the end of his property . It has caught the water-
f or H years now with no problem .
Roy Staley - there is still fill that has been bin rubht up close •
t o the property line on the other aide of the berm . The elevation
w here the warehouses are going is some elevation . The f i l l has
been put in and it will have an effect on the hill above it in
terms of drainage and what water movement you are going to get in
terms of erosion will have an effect . This is something that has
to be considered . The original intent of the T G Miller survey
and comments was that the whole area was planned as e
subdivision . There was no mention of commercial and when you purl
in the hard roofs where you get a very fast coilec 'ti - n of water
w hich you have the berm may not handle it . The berm does fine but
his main concern is that he is not sure that the berm is going tr
handle it when it gets near the road . hYShhT may have approved
it } but he does know that e lot of people across Pt 3E6 had a lot
of problems with water and with ire in the road when it could not
handle that amount of water . In a heavy rain storm it would fill
the road with water . This is something that someone should
consider whether it be hYbhhh or the town . He feels sorry for the
person who has bought the large home behind our properties and he
knows when they bought it , and it was the way he understood it
that it was a subdivision and the intern was to build homes
there . The only reason the homes were stopped being hui it there
w as because there was no municipal water and ewer . The Health
D ept has said that there is no perk in the hill nr that no more
houses could be built there even though several were built after
that . The original intent was for a subdivision .
S npv Snhug - it was never; a subdivision and wanted to know if
Mark had been before the Planning board .
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Mark Stevens - it was on a proposal for more water and sewer and
you couldn ' t approve something that wasn ' t pr - p - sed for the water
and sewer . There is a permit issued now for another house there
and it does perk .
H anley Staley - there is 24 ft of drop in some 200 ft of distance
which is some drop . If Mark puts & flat building in there and we
get a lot of run off all he is asking who is responsible to keep
them from getting flooded out . Is it Mark9 the town or M9 ,
Roy Staley - the attorney says that Staley would have that
liability and the only recourse we would have would be litigation
if there was any damage .
P tty Perkins -° the town has tried to make it a condition in the
special permits or site plan review that the drainage be
addressed by the developer in that the rate of drainage not be
increased during or following construction to the extent that the
town has the ability to control that He believnr that they will
continue to make that a condition of the permits or approvals
that they are entitled to grant . In the event that the project is
built without that an not in compliance it would be up to the
town to enforce the developer to do it . Ultimately it would be
the developers responsibility to comply with the conditions set
forth by the town .
H anley Staley - once you approve it the town is liable too .
Rtty Perkins - the town is only liable to see that its is built
accnrd i np to the approved plans .
Rack Nord - when they built the buildings Staley owns4 and
Charles Phew Furniture there was no thought of water and in the
spring they have almost been flooded cut . That water has been
✓ unning a long time there before any of the buildings were built .
Mark is not causing it .
H arry Kasten - he felt that denuding a hill has a lot to do with
the run off .
Mark Stevens -- has a letter where Pupv Schup has asked George
S chl. echt to discuss and look ever the drainage and there is no
q uestion of the approved plan . He has answered all of the
q uestions and if you hare any questions they should ask George if
t here are water problems or if there is added 10 , 000 sq ft of
✓ oof line if that will add a sufficient amount or if it just
n eeds dry wells .
S npv Sohug - George was not specifically asked to review the
drainage .
Seorge Sohiecht - no , in fact in his review letter he made a
special point of pointing out that there were not any drainage
plans that were provided .
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The Town Board went over the ERF form :
Atty Perkins in connection with the EQF that y '-' u have before
you is Fart I and you should review Part II to the extent that
you have identified any impacts that they may present . You may
w ant to expand o_on them in Part I I T
S upt/ Schug - Part T A Site Description question # 2 approximate
acreage , meadow or bru shland presently 12 , 151 ; after completion is
11 . 81
Atty Perkins - it is the requirement in the zoning ordinance and
so that there is no confusion as to what lot we are talking about
there should be a ie a1 description of the premises . This is a
✓ equirement of the application and he could not find a co= py of
the legal description . You should ,ask the applicant that this be
provided so that if there is some question in the future about
w hat project you are reviewing .
Mark Stevens - he has provided a raised stamped surveyed map .
Atty Perkins - the zoning ordinance requirement is for a legal
description of the premises .
Clm Walbridge - Part 1 A Site Description question # ` what cII_D you
consider r- nvegetated for the 1 acre ,
Mark Stevens -• the road and driveways that are there now .
S upv Schug - roads , buildings and other paved surfaces presently
1 acre and after completion will be 71S acre .
There was some confusion about the presently and after completion
w ith the acreage not adding up to the correct amount . This will
have to be corrected to 12 . 81 if that is the right amount for
that parcel .
Supv Schug T question i# 3 what is the predominant soil type on
project site ? Is not answered and should be on this official
d ocument ,
Clrn Walbridge -- questioned that since this land does not perk
that it should not be described as well drained .
Mark Stevens - it does perk that is why the Health Dept has
issued another permit for the 12 . 81 acres
C1rn Walbridge - if the Health Dept has issued a permit for the
12 . 61 acres why aren ' t you building on individual lots ?
Mark Stevens - this building does not take water and you would
not be using any septic system , There is a permit issued that it
d oes perk and they have a building permit for it now .
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Ci, m Walbridge -° but in this one area which is way around the map
Mark Stevens - it is up further on the hill which is part of the
12 . 81 acres .
C1rn Walbridge - then this has to be added into totals in terms of
acreage .
Mark Stevens - no , the 1 i . a 1 acres is on one parcel and the
permit that is issued right now is including the i2 . 81 acres , it
is on that parcel of land ,
C1rn Walbridge - her understanding that the reason the
subdivision did not comply was that the land did not perk
properly for the density of the subdivision .
Mark Stevens - yes , s '_' me lots perked and certain lots #8 and 09
d id not perk . There were certain lots on the whole: area that did
not perk .
U lna Walbridge - you are saying that the whole 12 . 81 acres is well
d rained .
Mark Stevens -- he is saying that there is no drainage problem -
Roy Staley -- has a copy of a letter from John Anderson stating
that there is no perk there and no subdivision sh '_' uld be put
there .
Chin Walbridge -- then we need more information and a copy of that
letter .
Mark Stevens -- you are going by hear say and if you want to look
at the thing certain lots perked . He is going by the perk on the
12 . 81 acres and there is a perk right now and a building permit
and we are doing by hear say .
Clrn Walbridge -- there seems to be a difference of opinion among
t he people present and as a member of the board she would like to
see what the Health Dept said about this as when it was proposed
as a subdivision . She finds it hard to believe that the full
121. 81 acres is considered well drained . I f it is correct all we
h ave to do is look at the letter and there will be no problem .
Z . O . Slater .- w 'DU1d provide the bciard members with a ropy of that
letter which is in his file .
Atty Perkins -- wanted to know if George has looked at the FAF and
if he was satisfied with the description of the predominant soil
types .
George Sctiiecht - he has loo ked at the CAF and they were missing
at the time of his review and that W115 one of his comments .
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Mark Stevens - when he purchased the property he did not know the
sail type . He has a letter that states there is SC' percent £IGD
and 20 percent 3RD . When Jim had Deorge review this there was a
question sheet that he answered and the board members have a copy
o f it .
S '.tpv Schug - if you had the answers you should have done the EAF
form properly .
Mark Stevens - he eight have been short of time and answer ed all
o f the questions the best way he could .
G lrn Walbridge - ank. ed FJeor~ ge if the soil type would be considered
w ell drained .
George Schlecht - there are about E50 soil types and he could not
pretend to know . If the drainage report is made and forth arming
h e could review that . The BAD soil indicates slopes greater than
15 percent .
E lm Walbridge - since the board has incomplete information on the
appropriate form she wc",Ald like to ask Mr Stevens to resubmit the
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Part I which is not the responsibility for the board to fill
out . She would like to require all of the appropriate
documentation and then they will review the drainage plan at the
same time .
(Adam Regpnbciglen - one of the quest ion % that was raised is what is
the zoning for this property and what are the different
categories of zoning . Is there a residential zoning , commercial
zonings some other kind of zoning and what would the impact be by
• a special permit when the zoning for this entire project .
Attp Perkins °- those are the quest ions that this board has to
answer; . It is an allowed use by a special permit . In Section 1302
in the zoning ordinance it states whet has to be included with
the written application . Name of application and owner of
premises ; legally recorded description of premises ; description
of proposed Luse , including parking facilities if required ; ,
legible sketch drawn to an approximate scale shoving size of
building or structure and location on premises ; sewage disposal
and water supply facilities existent or proposed , together with
Tompkins County Health Dept certification ; use of premises on
adjacent properties ; and a statement by applicant appraising the
e ffect of proposed use on adjacent properties and development of
the neighborhood . Those are all up to the developer to provide
and in reaching the determination the town board considers
w hether all of those prior requirements have been met . Whether
the location , the use and the nature and intensity of operation
w ill be in conflict with the allowed uses of the zone or
n eighborhood ; whether the use w i l l be more objectionable or
depreciating to adjacent and nearer properties ( by reason of
traffic , noise , vibration , dust , fumes , smoke , odor , fire ,
hazard , glare ,
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f lashing lights or disposal of waste or sewage ) than the
operation of the allowed uses of the zone . Whether the use will
d i sco +Arage or hinder the appropr i at' e development and use of
adjacent properties or neighborhood . Whether a nonresidential use
adjacent to an existing res i d ent is l use shall be screened by a
landscaped buf 'f' er strip or suitable fencing . Whether health ,
safety and general welfare of the community may be adversely
affected . These are all of the factors that the town board must
look at and decide whether or not it will grant a special permit .
Just because it is a use allowed by a special permit does not
mean that it will automatically happen . These are factors that
the board must consider after listening to the testimony here and
after reviewing the environmental assessment form .
Adam Regenbogen - wanted to tree if it was zoned currently for
residential use .
Attar Perkins - it is a tt bone which allows residential use and
allows by special permit other activities such as this •
application , but only by special permit . The reason it is by
special permit is because it is a use which may present these
kinds of concerns and may need conditions attached to them before
it can be granted .
Adam hegenbagen - he was lead to believe when he purchased his
property that the entire acreage would be used for residential
use only . He does not know if he w i l l directly see the proposed
storage sheds but he does hear noise when traffic is going up and
d own the hill . He is concerned about the future saleability of
any additional residential properties on that hill if the storage
facilities are placed there . That is a certified map , but he
knows of one line that is incorrect because he has the
conflicting map with different dimensions on some of the lines so
he would like that checked rub .
S upv Schug - the town board will adjourn this hearing until Mr
S tevens can get all of his information together and filled out
properly .
Adult Home Care Facility - information .
S upv Sctuq - want over EAR- form with representatives .
C lm Walbridge - B . Project Description question by b
anticipated date of commencement phase 1 is answered April 1990 ,
correct answer should be August 1990 to Feb 1991
S upv Schug - they are in the water and sewer district . One
q uestion is why is overhead electric shown and not underground in
the same trench as gas .
h arry O ' Neil - this is under review with hbSEhb . They have been
told that since Abbott Rd will be a town road they want to bring
primary electric up that road and their primary electric is
overhead
MAHLON R. PERKINS , R Cr
ATTORNEYS AND CDUNSELLORS Al L ,' VI
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MAHLOFI R. PERKINS T'ELEPHON'E
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FAX
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S eptember 4 , 1990
Susanne Lloyd
Town Clerk
65 East Main Street
D ryden , New York 13053
RE : Intermediate Care Facility
Dear Bunny ;
Enclosed please find the Negative Declaration which was authorized
by the Town Board on August 28r 19906 This Negative Declaration
should be maintained in your file along with the Full Environmental
Assessment Farm ( Part 1 and Part 2 ) which were reviewed and
approved by the Town Board on August 28 .
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If you have any questions , please call me .
Ver , truly yours ,
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Mahlon R . Perkins
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Appendix F
Slate Environmental Quality Review
NEGATIVE DECLARATION
Notice of Determination of Non-Significance
Project Number D04733Zuust8 , 190
Date t:
This notice is issued pursuant to Part 617 of the implementing regulations pertaining to Article
8 (State Environmental Quality Review Act) of the Environmental Conservation Law,
The Office of Mental Retardation and Develoyoiental Di. sabilit - lead agency ,
has determined that the proposed action described below wilt not have a significant effect on the
environment and a Draft Environmental Impact Statement will not be prepared .
Name of Action: Intermediate Care Facility -
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SEQRI Status: Type I El
Unlisted 13 .
Conditioned Negative Declaration : ! Yes
x NO
Description of Action: Intermediate Care Facility ( Community Residence -
Hostel 2789 ) to be staffed by Broome Developmental Center
Location: {include street address and the name of the municipalltylcounty. A location map of appropriate
scale is also recommended .)
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410 Reasons Supporting ortin This Determination: {
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(See 617 . 5(g) for requirements of this determination; see 617 .6(h) for Conditioned Negative Declaration)
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In accordance with 6 NYCRR 617 . 6 ( g ) and 617 . 11 and upon reliance of the
EAF (Part 1 and Part 2 ) the actionwill have no significant environmental
effect .
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I ! Conditioned Ne$atfve Declaration , provide on attachment the specific mitigation measures imposed . r.
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For Further Information :
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Contact Person : William F . Broskett , Deputy Director Administration
Address : 44 Holland Avenue , Albany , New York 12208
Telephone Number: ( 518 ) 473 - 6641
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For Type I Actions and Conditioned Negative Declarations, a Copy of this Notice Sent to:
Commissioner , Department of Environmental Conservation , 50 Wolf Road , Albany, New York 12233-000f
Appropriate Regional Office of the Department of Environmental Conservation
Office of the Chief Executive Officer of the political subdivision in which the action will be principally i
located .
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Other involved agencies ( if any)
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State Environmental Quality Review
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FULL ENVIRONMENTAL ENTAL ASSE: SSME T FORM
Purpose : The full EAF is designed to help applicants andgencies determine, in an orderly manner. whether a project
or action may be significant . The question of whether an action may be significant is not always easy to answer, Frequent-
ly , there are aspects• of a project' that are subjective or unrneasureable • it is also understood that those who determine
significance may have little or no format knowledge of the environment or may be technically expert in enviranmentat
analysis - in addition , many wwho have knowledge in one particular area may not be aware of the broader concerns affecting
the question of significance.
The full EAF is intended to provide a method whereby applicants and agencies can be assured that the determination
process has been orderly. comprehensive in nature, yet flexible to allow introduction of information to fit a project or action_
Full EAF Components : The full CAF is comprised of three parts ; -
Part 1 : Provides objective data and information about a given project and its site. By identifying basic project
data . it assists a reviewer in the analysis that takes place in Parts 2 and 3 .
Para 2: Focuses on identifying the range of possible impacts that may occur from a project or action , tt provides
guidance as to whether an impact is likely to be considered small to moderate or whether it is a potentiatly-
large impact. The form also identifies whether an impact can be mitigated or reduced.,
Parl 3 : If any impact in Part 2 is identified as potentially- large. then Part 3 is used to evaluate whether or not the
impact is actually important,
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DETERMINATION OF SIGNIFICANCE — Type.. l and Unlisted Actions
I Identif the Portions of EAF com leled for this project:y p >} i 12l Part 1 Ig Part 2 ❑ Part . 3
Upon review of the information recorded on this LAS ( Parts 1 and 2 and 3 fl appropriate]. and any other supporting
information , and considering both the magitude and importance of each impact, it i5 reasonably determined by the
lead agency that:
l& A. The protect will not result in any large and important impact(s) and , therefore. is one which will not
. have a significant impact on the environment, therefore a negative declaration will be prepared.
El B . Although the project could have a significant effect on the environment, there will not be a significant
- effect for this Unlisted Action because the mitigation measures described in PART 3 have been required,
therefore a CONDITIONED negative declaration will bp prepared. '
❑ C. The project may result in one or more large and important impacts that may have a significant impact
on ' the environment, therefore a positive declaration will be prepared.
• A Conditioned Negative Declaration is only valid for Unlisted Actions -
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• Name of Action
' . Office of Mental Retardation and Develoemental DisabjljtlesCOMRDD ] •
• Name of lead Agency __
Peter J . M . Trozze
LYilliam F . Broskett , Deputy Dir drnin Develo • ment Administrator
I 4 . nt Or Type Name of Respccisi &e Officer in Lead Agency itle of Responsible Officer
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Signature of Responsible Officer in Lead Agency Signature f reparer ( 11 different from responsible officer
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. PART 1 !- PROJEC " INFORMATION
Prepared by Project Sponsor
NOTICE : This document is designed to assist in determining whether the action proposed map have a significant effect
r n the environment . Please complete the entire form , Parts A through E . Answers to these questions will be considered
go. as part of the application for approval and may be subject to further verification and public review. Provide any additiona [
inrorrndtion you believe will be needed to complete Parts 2 and 39
it is expected that completion of the full EAF will be dependent on information currently available and will not involve
new studies, research or investigation . a information requiring such additional work k unavailable, so indicate and specify
each instance. • • .
NAME OF ACTEON • • •
Intermediate Care Facilit Pro • ect No . 0047332
LOCATION OF ACTION 11nc'ude Sireat Address. Municipality and County}
Abbott Road Dr den New York ,_T
NAME OF APPttCANt.sPo.NSog BUSINESS TEIIPHONE
State of New York Facilities Develo - [Went Corr • . t 518 473 - 6601 -
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Alban NY 12208
NAME OF oWNErS fir eildlereng - BUSINESS TELEPHONE -
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Intermediate Care Facility ( Community Residence — Hostel 2789 ) to
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Please Complete Each Question --- fndicale N.A., if not applicable ,
A . Site Description -
` Physical setting of overall project, both developed and undeveloped areas . •
1 . Present land use: iUrban ° Industrial Commercial ❑ Residential (suburban) giRural (non-farm)
. , ❑ Forest • Agriculture °Other - .
2 . 'rotal acreage of project area: • 2 . 59 acres . .•
APPROXlivtATE ACREAGE PRESENTLY AFTER COMPLETION
Meadow or Brushland [Non -agricultural ] 2 . 59 acres 2 .- 14 ' acres
Forested ,j — acres . acres
Agricultural ( Includes orchards. cropland, pasture, etc ) - acres , - acres
Wetland ( Freshwater or tidal as per Articles 24. 25 of ECU — acres — acres
Water Surface Area • acres acres
Unvegetated (Kock , earth or fill ) — acres acres
• Roads, buildings and other paved surfaces acres . 4 5 acres
Other ( Indicate type) —
acres — acres
, 3 . What is predominant soil typsesl On project site ? Ovid silt loam and Ilion silty clay boa
IP a . Soil drainage: lit'.\' ell drained . 100 ° ' of site lModeratly well drained % of site
CPoarry drained % of site
— b . 1f any agricultural land is involved , how many acres Of 5oir are classified within soil group 1 through -I of the NY
i Land Classification System ? NA . acres - ( See 1 NYCRR 370 ] .
4 . Are there bedrock outcroppings on project site ? Dyes RNO
. a . What is depth to bedrock ? greater. fihag .'3Q ( in feet )
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5 . -Apprbxirnate percentage of proposed project site with slopes = f • 1O % L % Q7 • 15 °ro- a�
015 % or greater %
`-- As project substantially coati u &t15 to. or contain a building . site. or district , listed on the State or the National
; etgisters of Historic Places ? OYes I$ No
project substantially contiguous to a site oli ted on the Register of National Nature [ Landmarks ? DYes I No
Pockets of wet perched areas .
8 , What is the depth of the water table . Found ., ( in feet ) �
9 . 15 site located over a primary. principal . or sole source aquifer ? [Wes GcNo
10- Do hurting• fishing or shell fishing alapottirrtities preseritry exist in the protect area ? Lies , INo
11 . Does project site contain any species of print or animal life that is identified • as threatened or endangered ?
EJYes a According to •
Identify each species •
12 , Are there any unique or unusual [ and forms on the project site ? ( i . e., cliffs, dunes. other geological formations)
IYes Eo Describe
13 - Is the project site presently used by the community or neighborhood as an open space or recreation . area ?
OYes No If yes . explain •
14 , Does the present site include scenic views known to • be important to the community?
CJYes 12No
15 , Streams within or contiguous to project area a . Name of Stream and name of River to which it is tributary
15. Lakes, ponds , wetland areas within or contiguous # o project area : •
a . Name None b. Size (In acres )
Ash
- Is the site served by existing public utilities ? . Z/ Yes IJN o • • •
1 ) If Yes, does sufficient capacity exist to allow connection ? L•Yes CINo
b) 11 Yes , will improvements be necessary to allow connection ? I Yes ❑ No
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18 , Is the site looted in an agricultural district certified pursuant to Agriculture and Markets Law, Article 25-AA,
Section 303 and 304 ? Des OPLio
19- Is the site located in or substantially contiguous to a Critical Environmental Area designated pursuant toArtiele a
of the EEL, and 6 NYCRR 617? OYes & No
20. Has the site ever been used for the disposal of solid or hazardous wastes DDYes [ No
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B . Project Description • •
1 , Physical dimensions and scale of project ( fill in dimensions as appropriate)
a . Total contiguous acreage owned or controlled by project sponsor 2 . 59 , acres,
b. Project acreage to be developed; 2 . 59 acres initially; 2 . Rq acres ultimately,
c. Project acreage to remain undeveloped 0 acres .
di Length of project , in miles; N • A • ( if appropriate) •
e. if the project is an expansion , indicate percent of expansion proposed , N . A . ? ;
f, Number of off-street parking spaces existing : proposed 10 ,
g. Maximum vehicular trips generated per hour 3 , ( upon completion of project ) ?
h- If re [ idential : Number and type of housing units :
One Family two Family Multiple Family Condominium niriai � y Qn -
Ultimately One —
I Dimensions ( in feet ) of largest proposed structure z5 height; , 90 width ; 115 length ,
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I • Linear feet of frontage along a public thoroughfare project wini occupy is ? 635 ft ,
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2 , , Flow much natural material ji - e „ rock . earth . etc . l will be removed frnm the site ! None tons;cubic yards
3 - Will disturbed areas be reclaimed ? LIYes ❑ N!a I {A
a - if yes, for what intends purpose is the site being reclaimed ?
b , topsoil be stockpiled for reclamation ? ■ Yes OJo
c Win upper subsoil be stockpiled for reclamation ? Ayes ❑ No
' . How many acres of vegetation ( trees , shrubs, ground covers) will be removed from site ? 1 . 25 . acres ,
S . Will any mature forest ( over 100 years .ol'a } or other locaJFy-important vegetation be removed by this project ?
❑ Yes F • No •
6- if single phase project: Anticipated period of construction 6 months, fincluding . demoliticn},.
7. if multi- phased: .
a . Tour number of phases anticipated 1 ( number).
b - Anticipated date of commencement phase 1 Apr ; T month 1 9.510 year, ( including demolition ),
c . Approximate completion date of final phase October month 1 $ 90 , year,
Cie Is phase 1 functionally dependent on subsequent phases / ❑ Yes G}No
• 8 . Will blasting occur during construction ? DYes IRNo
9. Number of jobs generated during construction • 6 ; after project is complete . 11
10. Number of jobs eliminated by this . praject NCrie •
11 - Will project require relocation of arty projects or facilities ? ❑ Yes IxNlo if yes, explain . . •
12 - Is surface liquid waste disposal involved ? Ryes allo -
a - IF yes. indicate type of waste (sewage, industrial, etc. ) and amount .
b- Name of water body into which effluent wili be discharged #' *
. , is subsurface liquid waste disposal involved? SiYcs QNo ~ Type Sewage
.14 . Will surface area of an existing water body increase or decrease by proposal ? ❑ Yes • allo
Explain
J 15 . Is project or any portion of project located in a 100 year flood plain ° Yes IDNo
1b . Will the project generate solid waste ? DV ' J7No
a. If yesr what is the amount per month 1. • 3 S • , tons
b.
If yes. will an existing solid waste facility be used ) RiYes C INo
C. If yes , give name Tompkins cp ,Sanitrary n .- - - location manrapkiarmatlata
d. Will any wastes not go into a sewage disposal system or into a sanitary landfill ? °3Yes .l No
e. IE Yes, explain
17. Will the project involve the disposal of solid waste ? • Yes I No
a - / I yes , what is the anticipated rate of disposal ? tons/month.
h - rf Yes , . what is the anticipated site life? , years .
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18. Will project use herbicides or pesticides ? C} Yesro I
19. Will project routinely produce odors (mare than one hour per day)? [ ] Yes ZNo
20 , Will project produce operating noise exceeding the local ambient noise levels ? C] Yes END
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ft . !Fill project result in an increase in energy use ? [ Yes ON °
If yes , indicate type( s ) Electric . cas _
s1 • If water supply is from wells, indicate pumping capacity gallonsfrnirrute .
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23 . Total anticipated water usage per day 1060 gallons/day.
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Does project involve Local, State or Federal funding ? ines ° No
Jf Yes . explain # • mt.) •
• Type Date
. ' City. Town , Village Board QYes ONo
• City. Town , Village Planning Board ❑ Yes ENo
ity , Town Zoning Board QYes UNo
City, County Health Department QYes No
Other Local Agencies DYes iNo
Other Regional Agencies Oyes IgNo
Facilities Dev . Corp . 2128f90
State Agencies ® Yes ONo fMRnn - 2 / ? R/ 9n
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Federal Agencies • Yes ENo
C . Zoning and Planning Information
1 . Does proposed action involve a planning or zoning decision ? QYes ENo •
If Yes. indicate decision required:
° zoning amendment Ozoning variance Ospecial use permit Osubdivision Osite plan
° new/revision of master plan Oresource management plan °other
2 . What is the zoning classification(s )of the site ? M — A District
3 . What is the maximum potential development of the site if developed as permitted by the present zoning ?
Manufacturing and assemblvIgQvernment owned facility .
4 . What is the proposed zoning of the site ? 14 - A Di strict_
S . What is the maximum potential development of the site if developed as permitted by the proposed zoning ?
Manufacturing and assembly ; government owned facility .
; , Is the proposed action consistent with the recommended uses in adb.l.ited . local land use plans ? I3Yes ONo
I NI What are the predominant land use( s) and zoning classifications within a 'A mile radius of proposed action ?
Residential . governmental
8 . Is the proposed action compatible with adjoining/surrounding land uses within a 'A mile? BYes ONo
9 . If the proposed action is the subdivision of land. how many lots are proposed ? —
a. What is the minimum lot size proposed ? —
10 . Will proposed action require any authorizations) for the formation of sewer or water districts ? QYes ®No
11 . Will the proposed action create a demand for any community provided services (recreation. education, police,
fire protection)? ISiYes ONo
a . If yes. is existing capacity sufficient to handle projected demand? [Zees ONo
12 . Will the proposed action result in the generation of traffic significantly above present levels ? QYes }�N0
a . If yes. is the existing road network adequate to handle the additional traffic ? ❑ Yes ONo
D . Informational 'Details
Attach any additional information as may be needed to clarify your project. If there are or may be any adverse
impacts associated with your proposal, please discuss such impacts and the measures which you propose to mitigate or
avoid them.
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E. Verification
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I certify that the information provided above is true to the best of my knowledge . /
® olicant:Spons r Name
Office, of Mental Retardation and Developmental Date _ a �?ltJ@ �� 4V
ignature ..�.1w•.. • e . Title Deputy Director Administration
illiam F . Broskett
If the action is in the Coastal Area , and you are a state agency, complete the Coastal Assessment Form before proceeding
with this assessment .
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' Responsibility of Lead Agency ,
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Canera ! Information ( Reid Carefully) •
a In completing the fore, the reviewer should be guided by the question : Have my responses and deters: natic.ns bee
reasonable ? The reviewer is not expected to be an expert environmental analyst •
Identifying that an impact will be potentially large (column ) does not mean that it is also necessarily signi icant.
Any large impact must be evaluated in PART 3 to Ceterrnine significance , identifying an impact in Cckinn 2 simpl
- asks that it be looked at further, ,
a The Examp-lm provide' are to assist the reviewer by Showing types of impacts and wherever possible the threshold c
magnitude that would trigger a response-riff column 2- The examples are generally applicable throughout the State am
for most situations. But. for any specific project or site other examples and'or lower thresholds may be apt +-np .iat
for a Potential Large Impact response, thus requiring evaluation ire. Part 3.
+ The impact of tad , project„ on each Site . in each locality, will vary . Therefore. the examples are illustrative an
... . • _ have been offered as guidance, They do not constitute an exhaustive lisp of impacts and thresholds to answer each c _ estion
- - It :Me number of examples per question does not indicate the importance of each question, • - ' _
Jn identifying irripara , consider long carers, short tern and cumlativer effects. . - _ a •
3=12.44criori (Read carefully) a _ . • . . - - • -
e . r. .. Answer each of the 19 questions in PART T 3. Answer Yes , if there will be eery impact
b. maybe answers should be considered as Yes answers. • - '
C. 1f - answering Yes to a question then check the appropriate box (column 1 or 21 to indicate the potential size of the
- 1 - im ao't Ef impact hreshdid. equals or exceeds any example provided, check column ? if impact will occur butthresnold
is lower than example. check column 1 . . .
- d< If reviewer Its. doubt about size of the impact then consider the impact as potantially . large and proceed to PART' 3 .
a ,if a potentially large ir.: pact checked in column 2 can be mitigated by Change;5) in the profs[: to a small to moderate
_ 1 irnPac, also check & e Yes box in column 3. 4 No response indicates that such a reduction is not possible. Thi;
must be explained in Pan 3. 1
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+ - Small to Potential Can Impact Be
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_ - . _ • • - - Moderate Large Mitigated Ey
.-. . - _ a IMPACT ON LAND Impact Impact Impac . Proles: Change
-1 . Will the` massed action result in a physical change to the project site ?
_.. • —
ONO EYES I
Examples that would apply to column 2 . . e . _ . -
Any Construction oijlopes --of 15 % or greater, ( IS foot rise per103u 0 ' - - - O • ' . ' Ores - •UONo I
foot of length), or where the general slopes in the project area exceed . - •• ' " - i • _-
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41 Corrstr action on End the depth to the water table is less than • • 0 - 0 iIYes ONO
3 feet ' .
— * Coru.truction of paved parking area for 1 .0D0 or more vehicles . • Li 0 . ° Yes ONo
0 Construction on rand. wh,er;` bedrock is exposed or genera#fr-within - 0 C QYes ONo
3 feet of existing ground surface.
a Constru tion thatwin ccnt;nue for more than T year or involve more ' ' CD' C ' - [ Yes ONo
than one phase or stage. • • .
a Eacavatipn for using purposes that would remove more than OW 0 ❑ ° Yes ON °
tons of natural material (i. e.. rock or soli) per year. • - -
Construction or eicTansian bf a sanitary landfill . . '
. • - ❑ Yes mONO
e Construction in a -designated flocdway. # + - 0 : DJYes ONo
• Other irrrpacts _ - Rearadinq of 1 . 25 acres of land , G - - C . - 0Xes- - 0, o _
._„ . . +' ill there be an effect t° . _ay unique or unusual land forms found on - . -
the site? (i . e., cliffs. dunes, geological formations , etc .) NQ EYE; - : -
' Specific land forms:
, , fixes -- . ' No
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- 1 Small to Potential Cat impact Be
' - t - IMPACT ON WATER • Moderate Large Mitigated By
• Will proposed action affect any water body designated as protecte & lrrtpact Impact I Project Change
( Linder Articles 15 , 24 , 25 of the Environmental Conservation Law , ECU
ENO CYES
Examples that would apply to column
* Developable area of site contains a protected water body. C 0 , C1es Jrga
• Dredging more than 100 cubic yards of -*iaterial froth channel of a 0 C .:.' Yes Ct c
protected stream. .
• Extension of utility disc ution facilities through a protected water body. II 0 r•-. yes L No
• Construction in a designated freshwater or tidal wetland . 1 0 . 0 . Oyes Crxo
• a Other impacts: - C' CYes C 'o
R +
" 4 . will proposed action affect any non-protected existing or new body
of water? aNO CYZS
' Examples that would apply to column 2 - .
- 0 A 10 % increase or decrease in the surface area Of any body of water 0 C • pte, CNo
▪ or more than a 10 acre increase or decrease. .
■ Construction of a body of water that exceeds 10 acres of surface area. 0 C £ Yes CrNo
r • Other impacts: ❑ C ' Yes : No
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5 . Will Proposed Action affect surface or groundwater
quality or quantity? t 12NC EYES
Examples that would apply to column 2 tie,
Proposed Action will require a discharge permit- C C EYES CNo
6.
nir ' Proposed Action repuires use of a source of water that does hot 0 0 CYes • ONo
have approval to serve proposed f reject) action.
4 Proposed Action requires water supply from wells with greater than 45 0 Z L L Yes No
gallons per minute pumping capacity.
4 Construction or operation causing any contamination of a water ri ❑ Yes Ohio
supply system.
;T- • ?imposed Action wile adverseiy affect groundwater. C 0 I Yes ONo
■ Liquid effluent will be conveyed off the site to facilities which presently 0 • 0 [ Yes ❑ fto
do not exist or have inadequate capacity. . .
- , • Proposed Action would use water in excess of 20,000 gallons per CI . 0 • Yes ONo
day.
• Proposed Action will likely cause siltation or other discharge into an 0 II I J Yes ONo
existing body of water to the extent that there will be an obvious visual
contrast to nature; conditions.
H. • Proposed Action will require the storage of petroleum or chemical , II ❑ ` Yes 0 N
products greater than 1 ,100 gallons .
- • Proposed Action will allow residential uses in areas without water 0 C I OYes ONo
andlor sewer services.
• - • Proposed Action locates commercial andfor industrial uses which rtiay ! . Q QYes ONo
require new or expansion of existing waste treatment and.'ar storage
facilities. .
alk in ) ther impacts : - 0 1I Dres { NO
1 b . Will proposed action alter drainage flow or patterns . or surface '
water runoff ? C} OYES
Examples that would apply to column 2
• Proposed Action would change flood water flows. 1 0 0 . l!' Yes IdNo
- Small to Pctental , Can Ir ; ac , Se .
Moderate Luce: Mit ; 'ie Sy
• Impact 1rnpact Prolec : Chance
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ark e Proposed Action may cause subs antizl erosion - ap n ' Yes ro
•OF ,-ocosed Action is incompatible with existing drainage parterrs , 0 r._' r-' 7es UNa
- Proposed Action wilt allow development in a designated fioodway , 0 0 dyes Co o
• Other impacts : - C [ ' yes CNo
- IMPACT ON AIR .
•
7 . will proposed action affect air quality ? . ENO - iYES
Esampies that would apply to column 2
- * Proposed Action will "induce MOO or more vehicle trips in any given : . O• • 0 UYes ONo
hour- _ " ' .
— C Proposed Action wilt result-iei ' the incineration of more than al ton of • • ❑- - .' Gres . No •
refuse per hour. _ I
-•• * Emission rate of total conaairrants will exceed 5 l s. per hour or a 0 C - rites Fi .tilc
hey [ source producing more than 10 million rU's per hour. • ' U
- • Propose: action w+il allow an increase in the amount of land committed , L! ' 1� es - No
to industrial u: e. — — • ' ; I
' - • Propose- ac tion will aa ltow -an increase in the density of industrial • C C ate! ONe I
tfeveior. r..Ient within existing industrial areas . : yes imr: NO
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IMPACT ON PLANTS AND ANIMALS .,1 ' .
d t or endangered - _ • a
. viil Proposed Action affect any threatened Q e a •
,
species ? N' NO LYES
Esamples that would apply to co [rxmrr 2 . - • .. . :
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0 Redt Caen of one-or more • ecies listed on the New York or Federal 0 . • _ a ' Yes Ono
fist- using the site. over or near site or found on the site. - : . . . , -
• Removal- of any portion of- a criticai cr significant wildlife habitat . , 0 , C 17lYes ' F o
a - • Application of pesticide or rerl icide more than twice a year, other . . .-. - - CI • • . : .I - a • MyYes - ° C + o
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than 1cr a ricvl rrai purpcses. : ' - - •
a Other 4rrrpaCts: — -• . _ ' . . . 0 _ __ _ Oyes _ ao -
9 . Will Proposed Action Substantially affect non-threatened or
non-endangered species ? MNO OYES -
Exanipl = that would apply to Column . .
PmpOsed Action -would substantially interfere with any resident or - • 0 • 0 _ ; Oyes ONo
, migratory fish. shellfish or wildlife species. -- • . .
. - * Proposed Action -- requires- the removal of More than 10 acres • - : : 0 0 Dyes Duo•
i of mature fote5t (over 100 years of age } or other locally important - • a • , . . - • • .
Vegetation . . . . . :
IMPACT ON ACRlCt.ILTLlR L LAND RSSOURCFS . - . . . • • a =- •a
•
. Q . Will the .Prcpo3 Aron affect agricultural land resources ? -
KNO OYES
;samples that would apply to Column 2 �--;
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he Yrc csed actin would- sever. cross or limit access to agricultural - C , a Eyes LINO
land [includes cropland , hayfields . pasture , vineyard, orchard. etc . ' : • .
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Small to Potential Can Impact Be
® Moderate Large Mitigated By
Impact Impact Projec : Change
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• Construction activity would excavate or. compact the : soil profile of ❑ 0 Dyes Duo
agricultural land.
• The proposed action would irreversibly convert more than . 10 acres 0 • ❑ ❑ Yes ONo
oi agricultural land or. if located in an Agricultutaf District. more .
than 2 .5 acres of agricultural land. •
• The proposed action would disrupt or prevent installation of agricultural ❑ ❑ [ Yes Duo
land management systems (e. g .. subsurface drain lines , outlet ditches, .
strip cropping); or create a need for such measures (e. g. cause a farm
field to drain poorly due to increased runoff)
• Other . imaacts: -- ' •• 0 ❑ ❑ Yes ONo
IMPACT ON AESTHETIC RESOURCES ,
11 . Will proposed action affect aesthetic resources ? ENO OYES •
( If necessary, use the Visual EAF Addendum in Section 617.21 . .
Appendix B. ) •
Examples that would apply to column 2 .
• Proposed land uses . or project components obviously different from ❑ , ❑ • CYes ONo
or in sharp contrast to current surrounding land use patterns , whether,
--nan-made or natural. •
®f . oposed land uses , or project components visible to users oi. C ❑ C3 Yes Ono
Aesthetic resources which will eliminate or significantly reduce their
• enjoyment of the aesthetic qualities of that resource.
O Project components that -will result in the elimination or significant 0 ❑ ❑ Yes ONo
. screening of scenic views known to be important to the area.
a Other impacts: ❑ - ❑ CYes ONo
IMPACT ON HISTORIC AND ARCHAEOLOGICAL RESOURCES . . •
12 . Will Proposed Action impact any site or structure of historic. pre-
historic or paleontological importance ? CNO OYES
Ezampfes that would apply to column 2 '
• Proposed Action- occurring wholly or partially within or substantially ❑ ❑ DYes 0 N
contiguous to any facility or site listed on the State or National Register
of historic places. •
• Any • impac: to an archaeological site or fossil bed located within the ❑ ❑ Eyes Duo
project site.
. • Proposed Action will occur in an area designated as sensitive for ❑ ❑ ❑ Yes ❑ No
archaeological sites on the NYS Site inventory.
• Other - impacts : - - ❑ . ❑ ❑ Yes ONo
® IMPACT ON OPEN SPACE AND RECREATION
Will Proposed Action affect the quantity or quality of existing or
future open spaces or recreational opportunities ?
Examples that would apply to column 2 ONO DYES
• The permanent foreclosure of a future recreational opportunity . 0 ❑ ❑ Yes 0 N
• A major reduction of an o;en space important to the community. ■ 0 ❑ Yes ONo
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. • IMPACT ON TRANSPORTATION 2
Small to Potential Can Impact Be
•
14 . Will there be an effect to existing transportation systems ? Moderate Large Mitigated Ey.
ENO = YES Impact Impact Project Chanci
® Examples that would - apply to column 2 i
• Alteration of present pat:ems of movement of people and/or goods . 0 C CYes CNo
• Proposed Action will result in major traffic problems . C r= :.: Yes r' Nc
• Other impacts: . ❑ L UYes CNo•
IMPACT ON ENERGY
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15 . Will proposed action affect the community's sources of fuel or •
energy supply ? . Gtt' O CYES . ' . . • •
■
Examples that would apply to column 2 - . . ' • •
• Propose: Action wilbcause. a greater than 5 % increase in the use or - ' 0 - C CYes CNo
any form of energy in the municipality. • •
• Proposed Action .will• require the creation or extension of an energy - • 0 6 CYes CNo
transmission or supply system to serve more than 50 single or two family '
residences or to serve a major commercial or industrial use. .
_ • Other ianpac= : - 0 _ . _� - ...- _ i'Yei . ._M.tio .
NOISE AND 000R IMPACTS • • . - - - -
16 . Will there be objectionable odors . noise. or, vibration. as a result .
of the Proposed Action ? ZNO MI5 -
Examples that would apply to column 2 " -
. ® Blasting within L00 feet of a hospital. school or other sensitive 0 0 Dyes CNo
facility. . .
• Odors at occur .ioutinelyimore than one hour per day). 0 0 CYes . CNo
• Proposes Acion _viil produce operating noise exceeding the focal 0 C Oyes ONo
ambient noise levels for noise outside of structires. .
_ • Proposes Actionwill remove . natural barriers that would act as a ❑ 0 Oyes CNo
noise screen. . •
._ • Other _irnpads: - ..0 n Nn_,
❑ � GYPS
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IMPACT ON PUBLIC HEALTH • % • . . I
17 . Will Proposed Action affect public health and safety?
MNO OYES
Examples that would apply to column 2
• Proposed Action aay cause a risk of explosion or release of hazardous ❑ • 0 ❑ Yes ONo
substances (i. e. oil, pesticides , chemicals , radiation , etc.) in the event of . : . . .
accident or upset conditions. or there may be a chronic low level * :
discharge or emission. • • . .
• _ • Proposed Action may resultin the burial of "hazardous wastes" in any 0 ❑ [ Yes CNo
form (i. e. toxic, poisonous, highly reactive, radioactive. irritating, - • . - • .
• Storage _ facilities for cne million or more gallons of liquified natural . 0 0 CYes ONo
1 yr gas or other flammable liquids.
• Proposed action may result in the excavation or other disturbance 0 0 • CYes GNC
within 2.000 feet of a site used for the disposal of solid or hazardous
. waste. .
— • Other impacts : . - 0 . . 10 .. - DYes ONo
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IMPACT ON GROWTH AND CHARACTER Small to Potential Can 'impact Be
OF COMMUNITY OR NEIGHaORHG40 Moderate large , Mitigated Ey
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-,, win ' proposed coon affect the character of the existing Community ? Ir pa Impact Protect Change
ENO OYES
L Examples thzt would apply to column 2 ' •
• The permanent population of the city, town or village in which the I 0 1 T • Cves __
project i5 located is likely to grow by more than 5 %, . _ '
• The municipal budget for capital expenditures or operating services U , F Yes r' No
will increase by mare than 5 % per year as a result of this project.
. • Proposed action will conflict with officially adopted plans or goals. I 0 - . ,' • C . :..ores Cho
• Proposed action will cause a change in the density of land use . C C C' Yes C: No
• Proposed Action . will replace or eliminate existing facilities. structures 0 � C ° Yes DNa
or areas of historic importance to the community. ,
• Development will create a demand for additional community services 0 0 . CJYes C' No
(erg. schools, police and fire. etc.)
• Proposed Action will set an important precedent for future projects . ❑ 1 C Ores iNo
▪ Proposed Action will create or eliminate employment C [J ; Yes Lazo
o Other irnpac;s: , ' 0 C : yes ; No
19 . is there, or is there likely to be,. public controversy related to
• potential adverse environmental impacts ' 2N0 L- YES '
i
. If Any Action in Part 2 is Identified as a Potential Large Impact or
if You Cannot Determine the Magnitude of Impact, Proceed to Part 3
Part 3 — EVALUATION OF THE IMPORTANCE OF IMPACTS TS -
Responsibility of Lad Agency
Part 3 must be prepared If one or more Unpacks] is considered to be potentially large, even if the impactisl may be
mitigated. .
Instructions -
Discuss the following for each impact identified in Column 2 of Part 2: - •
1 . Briefly describe the impact
2 . Describe Cif applicable) how the impact could be mitigated or reduced to a small to moderate impact by project changeSJ.
3 . Based on the information available, decide if it is reasonable to conclude that this impact is important.
• ' • To answer the question of importance, consider,
a The probability of the impact occurring .
I • The duration of the impact
I . 6 its irreversibility,ility, including permanently lost resources of value
• Whether the impact can or will be controlled
• The regional consegt?ence of the impact
• Its potential divergence from focal needs and goals
• Whether known objections to the project relate to this impact.
(Continue on ancarrrenus)
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o nly . From the road to the house they will be putting underground
® electric on their own property , but NYSE &G will not bring
underground electric up unless someone pays for it .
Supv Schu_tg - you will be the only unit on that piece of property ,
all of the other properties in that area have already been served
w hich is the armory . The only other one is Hi - Speed which will be
serviced from another road .
L arry O ' Neil - will approach NYSE & G again , but it was their
u nderstanding that they were not willing to put the primary
underground up to the property line unless whomever was using it
paid for it . Since this would be a public road they were planning
on servicing other facilities from the road . It would cost about
$ 12 , 000 . 00 to bring the primary up there .
S upv Schug - the division of berm shown on the previous
subdivision plan is not shown in this plan , but you have given
Abbott the right across the bottom end of the property to build
the berm and that would be Abbctts responsibility . He would have
a r -- o - w across the end of the Adult Care Facility and the Eastman
property to install the berm .
Supv Schug - Abbott Rd is working to be a town road from the
state and you will hook up to the existing storm lines since they
are in the town r - o - w . He has asked the Adult Care Facility if
® they would consider in their project helping with the downstream
correction of the problems that have been created on that site .
They would like to know how much their share would be . It would
n ot be more than $ 5 , 000 . 00 and another neighbor has agreed to
also pay a portion of this amount .
L arry O ' Neil - they will be using a catch basin for the drainage
before it gets to the driveway .
S upv Schug - the ownership and maintenance of water and sewer
lines would be the states jurisdiction except for the mainline .
RESOLUTION # 219 ACCEPT EAF NEGATIVE DECLARATION
ADULT CARS: FACILITY
Clm Walbridge offered the following resolution and asked for its
adoption :
RESOLVED , that this Town Board accept the negative EAF form for
the Adult Care Facility with the correct ion on quest ion # 7 b
anticipated date of commencement be August 1990 to February 1991
2nd C l r,i Hatfield Roll call vote - all voting Yes
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Patricia Schlecht /'• U L
® 117 Yellow Barn Road /1� V
Freeville , N . Y . 13068
tty FILE CooPy
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July 30 , 1990%
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Mr . Fred Grout
N . Y . S . D . O .T .
Third Street Extension
Ithaca , N . Y . 14850
Dear Mr . Grout , Re : Intersection Rt . 13 & Yellow Barn Rd .
Town of Dryden
My family and I live on Yellow Barn Road in the Town of Dryden
( right off of Route 13 ) .
As I ' m sure you are aware , it is an extremely dangerous intersection
of Route 13 all year long . However , during the six months of nice
weather that the Four Seasons Garden Center is in operation , it becomes
intolerable . Cars and trucks that are stopping to do business at
Four Seasons park right on the edge of Rt . 13 ( Four Seasons has no other
parking facility available ) . Residents of the Yellow Barn area ( close
to 100 families ) have no other way to get to Ithaca other than making
a left hand turn off of Yellow Barn Road onto Rt . 13 . But the view
toward Ithaca is almost totally blocked by parked cars and trucks at
the Four Seasons . Often we end up pulling out onto Rt . 13 totally
blind and praying that there isn ' t a car or truck speeding at you at
55 + m . p . h .
While this situation has been bothering our neighbors and ourselves
for years , I have now discovered that the owners of the Four Seasons
Garden Center own land directly adjacent to their hothouses which
could easily be converted into safe parking spaces .
I would greatly appreciate it if you could look into this situation
and see if anything can be done to remedy this extremely dangerous
situation . If there is anything that I can do to help , please let
me know - I know that all of the residents of the area feel as I do
and will be very supportive .
11, I will be awaiting your response .
Yours truly ,
cc : James Schug , Supervisor
Town of Dryden Patricia Schlecht
607-844 -9609 days
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® RESOLUTION _#4220 ACCEPT PLANS AND CHANGES
ADULT CARE FACILITY
Clm Roberts offered the following resolut ion and asked for its
adoption :
RESOLVED , that this Town Board accept the plan with changes for
the Adult Care Facility .
and Clm Walbridge Roll call vote - all voting Yes
S upv Schug - wanted to know if anything could be clone regarding
the letter from Pat Schlecht and the parking at the corner of
Yellow Barn Rd and Rt 13
Atty Perkins - it is a state road and the state has jurisdiction
o ver the parking and control of access to and from state
h ighways . The remedy would be to have the state control the
parking and driveways along there .
RESOLUTION # 221 RT 13 & YELLOW BARN RD
Clm Walbridge offered the following resolution and asked for its
adoption :
RESOLVED , that this Town Board authorize Supv Schug to write a
letter to NYSDOT following up on a letter from Patricia Schlecht
e mphasizing that they not only do sight survey distances at the
intersection of Rt 13 and Yellow Barn Rd , but it is the parking
® of vehicles at Four Seasons nursery that is causing the
o bstruction and the Town of Dryden does not have jurisdiction
o ver it and that the State look into it .
2nd Clm Hatfield Roll call vote -- all voting Yes
Atty Perkins -• Contel Telephone Co . is requesting an easement to
locate a pole on town property at the West Dryden Community
Center at the northwest quadrant of the intersection of West
Dryden Rd and Sheldon Rd . The pole and guy would be near the
southwest corner of the property and outside of the county r -o -w .
In order for the t ':: wn to grant an easement is by adopting a
✓ esolution subject to a permissive referendum provided fair and
adequate compensation is received in exchange for it .
Clm Walbridge _, wondered why it couldn ' t be buried underground
and would like Centel to check into this before anything else is
d ecided .
Z . O . Slater -- the Mix property building has been taken down and
is in the process of being removed . The Varn property was
supposed to cleaned up last weekend and as of today there is no
change . The English property was promised that if he sent her a
list of what had to be done she would respond . He sent the
d aughter the list that had to be done and as of to date there has
been nothing accomplished with the cleaning up of the property .
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S upv Schug - wanted to know if Atty Perkins had filed the papers
® regarding the Stetson property .
Atty Perkins - he has not yet , but he was in court with the
S tetsons before Judge Lloyd last Thurs and is waiting to see how
that comes out Sc' as to avoid additional expense to the town . It
appears that we will have to go ahead anyway , and his services
w ill be required in town court to prosecute this matter at that
level .
Z . Q . Slater - he is supposed to get a letter from the court
advising him of what the course will be and at that point he
w ould like to request that Atty Perkins represent the Town of
D ryden in the trial .
J udge Lloyd - what they are waiting for at the moment are motions
f rom Atty Carroll by Sept 6th concerning a couple of aspects and
they are returnable by Sept 13th .
H istoric Ithaca - letter of support to Historic Ithaca for the
w ork they are doing .
S upv Schug - sent survey to board members regarding apartments in
a MA Zone . Clm Roberts feeling was that he had problems with the
apartments in a MA Zone and housing should be kept out
® Clrn Walbridge - did not think that people would be happy in
apartments next doer to industries and since there is only a
limited amount of a MA Zone you do not want to put residential
housing there because you have enough problems with neighbors
trying to place industry .
RESOLUTION # 222 APPOINT YOUTH COMMISSION
Clm Walbridge offered the following resolution and asked for its
adoption :
RESOLVED , that this Town Board appoint Tore Hatfield as
✓ epresentative on the youth commission .
2nd Clm Hatfield Roll call vote - all voting Yes
RESOLUTION # 223 APPOINT COUNTY YOUTH BUREAU
Clm Roberts offered the following resolution and asked for its
adoption :
RESOLVED , that this Town Board appoint Mary Ellen Bossack as the
Town of Dryden representative to the County Youth Bureau .
2nd Cirn Hatfield Roll call vote - all voting Yes
Supv Schug - Bolton Point is upgrading their water system by
computer which all of the towns are participating in at their on
e xpense . The cast for the upgrade would not exceed $ 5 , 000 . 00 .
T . G . MILLER P . C.
544u. . a du
203 NORTH AURORA STREET
® ALLEN T, FULKERSON, L.S. P. 0. Box 777 THOMAS G . MILLER , Pt „ L. S.
l MICHARD A. SLADE , L.S . ITHACA, NEW YORK 14851
DAVID A. HERRICK, P . E . 1926. 1989
TELEPHONE (607) 272.6477
August 27 , 1990 .� 11E@NOWIE
Mr . James Schug , Supervisor 2 8
c / o George Schlecht
Town Engineer
22 George Street
D ryden , New York 13053
Re : Water System Model , Town of Dryden
D ear Mr . Schug ,
P er the request from Mr . George Schlecht , we propose to
render professional engineering services in connection with
t he Town of Dryden Water System Hydraulic Model ( hereinafter
called the " Project " ) . The Town of Dryden ( hereinafter
called the " Owner " ) is expected to furnish us with full
information as to your requirements including any special or
extraordinary considerations for the Project or special
service needs , and also to make available all pertinent
• existing data .
O ur Basic Services will consist of preparing a computer
h ydraulic model incorporating all major system components ,
for the following existing Town of Dryden Water Districts :
✓ arna ; Monkey Run ; and Hall Road . At this time it is not
recommended that the Snyder Hill District be modeled unless
t here are anticipated extensions or existing deficiencies
✓ equiring correction . We will also furnish 6 sets of bound
input and output data , and associated tables , as well as a
schematic plan of the system and components . Two sets of
51 / 4 " diskettes with model data will be provided for use by
t he Owner and its consultants . It is our understanding that
a formal written report summarizing the findings of the model
o r recommendations for improvements is not required at this
t ime . If such a report is later deemed necessary , the scope
o f services can be prepared in a subsequent proposal .
.Ray_man-t for our Basic Services will be a lump sum fee not to
e xceed $ 4 , 350 . ] Reimbursable expenses for the costs of
printing , g distance phone calls , postage and shipping ,
e tc . will be charged on the basis of actual costs and in
addition to fees for Basic Services . Any Additional Services
✓ equested will be charged on the basis of Salary Costs times
a factor of 2 . 5 . We will bill monthly for Services and
® Reimbursable Expenses . The charge on account of the lump sum
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III fee will be based upon our estimate of the proportion of the
t otal services actually completed at the time of billing .
Payment is due within thirty days of receipt of the
statement . Amounts due beyond the thirtieth day will be
increased at the rate of 1 % per month .
W e would expect to start our services within thirty days
after acceptance of this proposal and upon receipt of
" as - built " drawings and engineers ' reports for all existing
w ater projects in the Town of Dryden as well as the
t ransmission mains which directly feed the Town of Dryden
system . The date for the completion of our services will be
mutually agreed upon between the Owner and T . G . Miller , P . C .
In the event the Project is terminated by the Owner during
any stage of the Basic Services , we will be paid for services
I rendered up to the date of termination on the basis of Salary
Costs times a factor of 2 . 5 by our principals and employees
e ngaged directly on the Project , and for any reimbursable
expenses accrued .
P er the request from Mr . Schlecht , we have put together a
brief description of the capabilities of the Kentucky Pipe
( KYPIPE ) computer program , an indication of the information
w hich must be obtained in order to model the Town of Dryden
water system , the ability for Bolton Point and the Town to in
IIIthe future independently use the model to answer hypothetical
q uestions which might arise , and the compatibility of the
K YPIPE model with a future overall model for the entire
B olton Point system . This information is attached as
E xhibit A .
This proposal and Exhibit A thereto , which consists of 2
pages , represent the entire understanding between the Owner
and T . G . Miller , P . C . in respect of the Project and may only
be modified in writing signed by both parties . If it
satisfactorily sets forth your understanding of our
agreement , we would appreciate you signing the enclosed copy
of this letter in the space provided below and returning it
t o us . We look forward to working with you on the Project .
Respectfully Submitted ,
T . G . Miller , P . C . /
By - ,400e
Vice Pres d - nt
Accepted this rV 9 day of
dm_ 5-1 L4990
BY _ J
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Town of D v : - n
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® EXHIBIT A
The Kentucky Pipe ( KYPIPE ) computer program was designed by
the University of Kentucky . The program is written in
FORTRAN IV , a high level source language that insulates the
program logic and structure from the specific machine it runs
o n . The program was written to analyze steady state flows
and pressures for pipe distribution systems and can be
applied to liquids other than water . The program is diverse
in its capabilities . It can accommodate any piping
configuration and any number of various hydraulic components
such as pumps , valves ( including check valves ) , components
producing significant head loss ( meters , bends , etc . ) ,
pressure regulating valves , pressure sustaining valves , and
storage tanks .
One example of its analytical capability is that it can carry
o ut an extended period simulation considering storage tank
levels which vary over the simulation period . This feature
w ill , for example , allow the water level in a storage tank to
• control bringing a booster pump on line if the hydraulic
grade drops below a specified level . The pump will continue
t o operate until the hydraulic grade is increased above a
second specified level .
The traditional computer design is
INPUT - - - - > PROCESSING - - - - > OUTPUT
The user is responsible for the raw data input regarding the
physical characteristics of the components in the pipe
distribution system , as well as the pressure and flow
✓ equirements imposed on the system . Input data can be in
English units of CFS , GPM , PIGD or Standard International ( SI )
units . The program than processes the information either
u tilizing the Hardy - Cross or the Darcy - Weisbach method of
analysis . Complete output including pressures , elevations
and hydraulic grade lines at all junctions , head losses in
lines and at all valves , pump heads , flow rates and flow
✓ elocities , and a summary of system in - flows and demands is
provided .
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It should be recognized that the KYPIPE program , just as any
computer program , is only a tool , the usefulness of which is
determined by the accuracy of the information that is input
as data . Hence the core of the analysis rests primarily on
t he thoroughness of the research done to obtain the input
data and the modifications of headloss factors , etc . made to
accurately depict the working system conditions . Information
such as the size , length , type and corresponding age of pipe
sections ; location and elevation of storage tanks and valves ;
location and characteristics of pumps ; and flow demands must
be obtained for the existing system .
The initial time involved obtaining the necessary information
t o accurately model the Town of Dryden water system may be
considerable . However , once the existing distribution
configuration is known , the data logged into the computer ,
and the model accurately representing the dynamics of the
w orking system , the time involved to manipulate the system
w ith future modifications or extensions will be minimal .
The input data representing the water system can be stored on
a 51 / 4 " diskette . The Town of Dryden or Bolton Point as long
as they too own a version of the KYPIPE computer program ,
could then access the water system model prepared by T . G . •
Miller , P . C . via the diskette . With the working model ,
analysis of various ways to potentially mitigate existing
problems , such as adding tanks , adding or removing valves ,
changing the size of sections of pipes , etc . can readily be
done . Also , proposed extensions can be evaluated to
determine how best to implement them in order to favorably
affect the system hydraulics .
If all the member municipalities of the S . C . L . I . W . C . model
t heir respective systems with the KYPIPE program , than the
proposed KYPIPE model of the Town of Dryden system will be
compatible and can be integrated into an overall S . C . L . I . W . C .
model .
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RESOLUTION # 224 UPGRADE WATER SYSTEM
Clm Walbridge offered the following resolution and asked for its
adoption :
RESOLVED , that this Town Board upgrade their portion of water
system for Bolton Point not to exceed $ 5 , 000 . 00
2nd C1m Hatfield Roll call vote - all voting Yes
Atty Perkins - access to WHCU property from Abbott Rd . His
comments are based on the assumption that Abbott Rd becomes a
town road . What Mr . Abbott has with the State of New York is not
an easement but a revocable license and that means that he has
permission to use a portion of state property to get to the WHCU
site . This is a license to Mr . Abbott , the document itself is
silent with respect to its assignability . Presumably since it is
a license it is not assignable and it had to be accepted Mr .
Abbott with certain conditions . His concern is if this is
adequate for access it would have to be given to the developer
n ow by the state . He thought that it is revocable and across
state property . This is the most that you wi 11 ever get is a
✓ evocable license . He would think that the potential lender would
h ave concern about improvements over state property when the only
guarantee would be a revocable license . It would be possible for
WHCU to get a similar license from the state and the most would
be the revocable license .
Supv Schug - authorized Atty Perkins to write a letter to WHCU
✓ equesting them to apply to the State for a revocable license for
access to Abbott Rd .
Atty Perkins - reported on Abbott Rd . -•- when the town accepts a
town read it is a required that a boundary line occupational
survey together with profiles showing the location of all
improvements to the property which is the minimum that would be
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✓ equired . For an individual there would be an abstract of title
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and other documents titles . There are just some technical things
that need to be taken care of with respect to the permit that the
town has right now .
S upv Schug - authorized Atty Perkins to get all the necessary
documents concerning Abbott Rd .
Adjourned : 10 : OOPM
AL4& it4cc
S usanne Lloyd
Town Clerk