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TOWN OF VIRGIL PLANNING BOARD
Minutes of Public Hearings & Regular Meeting - Monday, 1 June 2020 – 7 PM
Town Hall – 1176 Church Street – Virgil, NY 13045
Board Members (*absent) Others Present
Jeffrey Breed, Chairman Joan Fitch, Board Secretary
Carole Lathrop Patrick Snyder, Town Attorney
*Ann Howe Adam Brown, Town Zoning Officer
Mark Baranello
*Dale Taylor
*Denise Schulze, Alternate
Applicants & Public Present
Danielle Beebe for Richard Beebe, Applicant; Christopher Larkin, Applicant; Wes Kryger for Greek
Peak Holdings, LLC, Applicant; John Kaminski, Town Supervisor; Jereme Stiles, Deputy Town
Supervisor.
The Public Hearings were opened at 7 p.m. by Chairman Jeffrey Breed with the
Board Secretary reading aloud the Legal Notice as published in the Cortland
Standard on 26 May 2020. Proof of Publication has been placed on file for the
record.
PUBLIC HEARING #1
Edward Robinson, Applicant/Scott & Lisa Snyder, Reputed Owners – 1656-1659 O’Dell Road
– TM #137.00-01-15.000 – Minor Subdivision
The applicant, who was present via telephone, explained to the Board that he would like to
subdivide 13.858± acres of the subject property to be consolidated with the adjacent property as
part of the Finger Lakes Trust. There will be no development on this property.
Chairman Breed asked if there were any Board questions or public comments regarding this
request; there were none.
With everyone having been heard who wished to be heard,
Chairman Breed closed the Public Hearing at 7:07 p.m.
PUBLIC HEARING #2
Richard Beebe, Applicant/Reputed Owner – 1229 NYS Route 392 – TM #126.14-01-35.210 –
Conditional Permit – Livestock in Neighborhood Residential District
Chairman Breed recognized Danielle Beebe, representing the applicant who was seeking a
Conditional Permit to house chickens, two ponies, and goats in a contained area on the subject
property which contains less than five acres of land and is in a Residential District. A Conditional
Permit is required for the keeping of livestock on any parcel smaller than five acres in size.
Chairman Breed asked if there were any Board questions or public comments regarding this
request; there were, as follows:
John Kaminski – Town Supervisor – They have had chickens running all over the
place. They can’t keep their animals on the property. The Sheriff’s Department has
been there. They are not good stewards of the property. There should be a condition
that if any animals get out of the containment area, then the conditional permit should
be revoked.
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Danielle Beebe responded to Supervisor Kaminski’s comments by saying that they
have done everything they can to remedy the situation and have constructed a fence to
do so. However, stormwater runoff causes debris to pile up against the fence opening
it up enough for the animals to escape.
With everyone having been heard who wished to be heard,
Chairman Breed closed the Public Hearing at 7:10 p.m.
PUBLIC HEARING #3
Christopher J. Larkin, Applicant/Jeffrey & Martha Rhinehart, Reputed Owners – 917 NYS
Route 392 – TM #135.00-02-01.000 – Minor Subdivision
Chairman Breed recognized the applicant who was seeking approval to subdivide a 12.44± acre
piece from this parcel and consolidate it with his adjoining parcel, TM #135.00-02-02.000, as
shown on the map accompanying the application.
Chairman Breed asked if there were any Board questions or public comments regarding this
request; there were none.
With everyone having been heard who wished to be heard,
Chairman Breed closed the Public Hearing at 7:12 p.m.
PUBLIC HEARING #4
Greek Peak Holdings, LLC, Applicant/Reputed Owner – 1856 NYS Route 392 – TM #127.00-
09-03.120 – Conditional Permit – Proposed Drive-In Movie Screen
Chairman Breed recognized the applicant who was seeking a Conditional Permit to install a 16 ft.
by 24 ft. movie screen on the side of the Adventure Center Building in order to hold outdoor
movies, as shown on the photo accompanying the application. Mr. Kryger stated they have been
operating a movie screen for the past three years, but would like it to be placed as aforestated and
increase the parking from 50 vehicles to 200 vehicles. He said they had been contacted by trade
schools, a church, etc. that would like to utilize this big screen.
Chairman Breed asked if there were any Board questions or public comments regarding this
request; there were none.
With everyone having been heard who wished to be heard,
Chairman Breed closed the Public Hearing at 7:15 p.m.
REGULAR MEETING
The Regular Meeting of the Town of Virgil Planning Board was called to order by Chairman
Breed at 7:15 p.m.
OLD BUSINESS – NONE
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NEW BUSINESS
Edward Robinson, Applicant/Scott & Lisa Snyder, Reputed Owners – 1656-1659 O’Dell Road
– TM #137.00-01-15.000 – Minor Subdivision
Chairman Breed acknowledged receipt of a 2/21/20 memo from Kevin Pagini, Planner, Cortland
County Planning Department, which stated that it had been determined that the request is
technically adequate and has no State- or County-wide impact, so the subdivision request was
being returned to the Town of Virgil for their determination.
Member Baranello noted that the subdivided parcel was to be consolidated with an adjacent
parcel, as shown. Member Lathrop added that she was aware of the land trust and had no
objection to the subdivision as proposed.
At the request of the Chairman, the Board Secretary read aloud Part II of the Short Environmental
Assessment Form. Negative responses were obtained to all questions in Part II. A motion was
then made by Member Baranello that the action, based on the information submitted, will
not cause any significant adverse environmental impact, resulting in a Negative Declaration.
The motion was seconded by Member Lathrop, with the vote recorded as follows:
Ayes: Chairman Breed Nays: None
Member Baranello
Member Lathrop Absent: Member Howe
Member Taylor
Motion carried.
This becomes Action #7 of 2020.
With no further discussion, a motion was made by Member Lathrop to approve the Minor
Subdivision of land, as requested. The motion was seconded by Member Baranello, with the
vote recorded as follows:
Ayes: Chairman Breed Nays: None
Member Baranello
Member Lathrop Absent: Member Howe
Member Taylor
Motion carried.
This becomes Action #8 of 2020.
Richard Beebe, Applicant/Reputed Owner – 1229 NYS Route 392 – TM #126.14-01-35.210 –
Conditional Permit – Livestock in Neighborhood Residential District
Chairman Breed recognized the applicant’s representative, Danielle Beebe, who advised that water
comes through their property from the Town every time it floods, even after installing a secondary
fence last summer there to stop it. They had an issue with the flooding just three weeks ago. The
Town, she stated has not alleviated the problem of flooding onto the property. From about 30 to
40 feet of fence is affected where the brush comes down with the water and piles up against the
fence. She showed the Board members where the flooding occurred.
Member Baranello commented that there have been animals there for many years. Member
Lathrop stated there were only three acres. Adam Brown, Town ZEO, stated there was no
“grandfathered in” that applied as there was a change in property owners and there were no
animals her for a period of time. Attorney Snyder explained that if a use is abandoned for at least
a year, it is no longer grandfathered.
Chairman Breed asked if the applicant could increase the setback 10 to 20 feet more. Ms. Beebe
responded if they did, it would not be on the subject property. Member Lathrop asked if the Town
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was responsible for the flooding, and Ms. Beebe responded she did not know, but the flooding
came down the road to her property from up above, and all the debris piled up against her fence.
Attorney Snyder stated that this could be a landowner issue, a civil matter.
Member Lathrop commented that no neighbors had appeared at the public hearing to complain
about the situation, and Ms. Beebe responded that the neighbors were pleased with what they had
done with the property and “like us.”
Chairman Breed asked Ms. Beebe how many animals did they plan to have, and she responded
they were not adding any more; they have twelve now, two ponies and ten goats. If the fence fails,
she added, they end up in the neighbor’s yard. In response to Member Baranello’s question, Ms.
Beebe showed the Board where the direction of flow was and from where the debris comes. She
explained that it comes from behind the Historical Society and West State Road, and pointed it out
on the map accompanying the application.
Town Supervisor John Kaminski commented that the goats get in the road on Route 392 and the
Sheriff was called three or four times. Good stewards, he stated, keep their animals in. “She
admitted there are problems with the runoff … if she can’t fix the problem of keeping her animals
in, that’s all I want is to keep her animals on the property. . . if she could fix the problem, that’s all
I’m asking for. I’m not going after her, but she’s liable, if you give her a Conditional Permit, to
keep on her property. That’s all I’m asking. So it’s up to you guys what you want to do, but I just
don’t want to see her animals in the road.” He went on to say, “The problem can be fixed . . . I’m
for people having animals.” Supervisor Kaminski said that about every four years there’s a
massive flood that catches all the rain from West State Road, goes down behind the fire station
through Town. Member Baranello suggested a structure that might work there, and Supervisor
Kaminski said “I’d build a better fence.”
Chairman Breed asked Ms. Beebe if she could further reinforce the fence, and she responded that
she will do what she can. She would have to do it herself and described to the Board what could
be done, e.g., 6 ft. steel posts for more stability. Member Baranello thought it was possible to
build a sturdier fence that would satisfy the situation; poles should be driven deeper into the
ground, perhaps at least 42 inches. This could be inspected by the Code Enforcement Officer.
Some kind of conditions should be imposed. The Board discussed a Conditional Permit and its
composition; Attorney Snyder suggested they might want to consult County Soil & Water for their
advice and come up with a plan. There are many services that might be of help at no cost.
Deputy Supervisor Jereme Stiles suggested that Cornell Cooperative Extension also might assist
the applicant. Chairman Breed also suggested that the Town Clerk may have some outreach
information also.
At this point in the discussion, Town Attorney Snyder suggested that the Board may want to
postpone any action on this request in order to allow the applicant to obtain additional
information.
A motion was then made by Member Baranello to postpone the request for a Conditional
Permit to allow chickens and livestock in a Neighborhood Residential District until the next
regularly scheduled meeting of the Town of Virgil Planning Board. The motion was
seconded by Member Lathrop, with the vote recorded as follows:
Ayes: Chair Breed Nays: None
Member Baranello
Member Lathrop Absent: Member Howe
Member Taylor
Motion carried.
This becomes Action #9 of 2020.
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Christopher J. Larkin, Applicant/Jeffrey & Martha Rhinehart, Reputed Owners – 917 NYS
Route 392 – TM #135.00-02-01.000 – Minor Subdivision
Chairman Breed recognized the applicant who was seeking approval to subdivide a 12.44± acre
piece from this parcel and consolidate it with his adjoining parcel, TM #135.00-02-02.000, as
shown on the map accompanying the application. He advised that there would be no development
of this property.
Chairman Breed acknowledged receipt of a memo from Dan Dineen, Director of the Cortland
County Planning Department, dated 13 May 2020, which stated that without consolidation of the
two parcels, one would be landlocked; therefore, consolidation was recommended. Otherwise, the
request was deemed technically adequate and the application was being returned to the Town for
local determination.
At the request of the Chairman, the Board Secretary read aloud Part II of the Short Environmental
Assessment Form. Negative responses were obtained to all questions in Part II. A motion was
then made by Member Lathrop that the action, based on the information submitted, will not
cause any significant adverse environmental impact, resulting in a Negative Declaration.
The motion was seconded by Member Baranello, with the vote recorded as follows:
Ayes: Chairman Breed Nays: None
Member Baranello
Member Lathrop Absent: Member Howe
Member Taylor
Motion carried.
This becomes Action #10 of 2020.
It was noted by Chairman Breed that all neighbors of these properties had been notified of the
public hearing.
With no further discussion, a motion was made by Member Lathrop to approve the Minor
Subdivision of land, as requested, conditioned upon the proposed 12.44±-acre parcel be
consolidated with the adjacent Tax Map Parcel #135.00-02-02.000, if possible. Proof of
consolidation shall be provided to the Town Code Enforcement Officer. If the parcels cannot
be consolidated as one tax map parcel, then no applications will be made for residential
building permits on such parcel. The motion was seconded by Member Baranello, with the
vote recorded as follows:
Ayes: Chairman Breed Nays: None
Member Baranello
Member Lathrop Absent: Member Howe
Member Taylor
Motion carried.
This becomes Action #11 of 2020.
Greek Peak Holdings, LLC, Applicant/Reputed Owner – 1856 NYS Route 392 – TM #127.00-
09-03.120 – Conditional Permit – Proposed Drive-In Movie Screen
Chairman Breed recognized the applicant who was seeking a Conditional Permit to install a 16 ft.
by 24 ft. movie screen on the side of the Adventure Center Building in order to hold outdoor
movies, as shown on the photo accompanying the application. Mr. Kryger stated he was not sure
why he was before the Board; they have been operating it for the past three weeks. CEO Brown
explained that the proposed drive-in movie screen was a commercial issue that requires a permit.
Attorney Snyder affirmed that drive-ins have to have a Special Use Permit according to the Town’s
Zoning Law.
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Chairman Breed stated his only concern was that people driving by would be distracted. Member
Lathrop brought up the concern with traffic possibly queuing up on the road. Mr. Kryger
responded that they are making sure this does not happen and that there is plenty of distance
provided to prevent this.
He then elaborated on the precautions to be taken with regard to the current COVID-19 pandemic.
Town Attorney Snyder mentioned that under the Town’s Zoning Law, Section 623, A, B and C, the
conditions set forth therein need to be met.
Mr. Kryger said they had been contacted by trade schools, a church, etc. that would like to utilize
this big screen. They would also utilize other screens in their larger parking lot for large events
like high school graduations, perhaps up to 200 vehicles.
Member Lathrop then commented that Dan Dineen’s memo of 13 May stated the applicant’s
request was for “a temporary Conditional Permit.” The public hearing notice was strictly to install
a drive-in movie screen.
Chairman Breed then read aloud the Cortland County Planning Department’s 13 May 2020 memo,
signed by Dan Dineen, Director, which stated that “as long as the application is for a temporary
conditional permit and that any permanent application for this use is resubmitted to the County
Planning Board for review and as long as the applicant has County Health Department approval
for the food service associated with the temporary drive-in theater, that the request is technically
adequate and has no State- or County-wide impact.” Therefore, the application was returned to
the Town for local determination.
At the request of the Chairman, the Board Secretary read aloud Part II of the Short Environmental
Assessment Form. Negative responses were obtained to all questions in Part II. A motion was
then made by Member Lathrop that the action, based on the information submitted, will not
cause any significant adverse environmental impact, resulting in a Negative Declaration.
The motion was seconded by Member Baranello, with the vote recorded as follows:
Ayes: Chairman Breed Nays: None
Member Baranello
Member Lathrop Absent: Member Howe
Member Taylor
Motion carried.
This becomes Action #12 of 2020.
With no further discussion, a motion was made by Member Baranello to approve the
Conditional Permit for the proposed Drive-In Movie Screen, as requested, adhering to those
conditions contained in the Cortland County Planning Department’s memo dated 13 May
2020, and compliance with Section 623 A, B and C of the Town of Virgil Zoning Law
pertaining to traffic control. The motion was seconded by Member Lathrop, with the vote
recorded as follows:
Ayes: Chairman Breed Nays: None
Member Baranello
Member Lathrop Absent: Member Howe
Member Taylor
Motion carried.
This becomes Action #13 of 2020.
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APPROVAL OF MINUTES – 24 FEBRUARY 2020
A motion was made by Alternate Member Lathrop to approve the (T) Virgil Planning Board
Minutes of 24 February 2020, as submitted. The motion was seconded by Member
Baranello, with the vote recorded as follows:
Ayes: Chairman Breed Nays: None
Member Baranello
Member Lathrop Absent: Member Howe
Member Taylor
Motion carried.
This becomes Action #14 of 2020.
ADJOURNMENT
At 8:50 p.m., a motion was made by Member Lathrop, seconded by Member Baranello, to adjourn
the meeting. All Board members present voted in the affirmative.
Joan E. Fitch Draft emailed to Town Clerk, Bd. Members, Emailed to Town Supv., Town Clerk, Town Attorney, CEO &
Planning Board Secretary Atty. & CEO on 6/16/20.
Approved as corrected on 6/22/20.