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Town of Danby Conservation Advisory Council (CAC)
Draft
Minutes of In-person Meeting in Town Hall, and via videoconferencing
Tuesday, April 9, 2024
Council Members present: Jonathan Zisk (Meeting chair), Joel Gagnon, Anne
Klingensmith, Don Schaufler, Renee Owens
Council Members absent: Margaret Corbit, Katharine Hunter, Brittany Stein
Others present: Elizabeth Keokosky (Secretary), Ronda Roaring (Danby resident)
Meeting was officially called to order at 7:12
Deletions or Additions to Agenda: Secretary Keokosky announced she would not
be able to attend the May CAC Meeting. Owens asked for an addition of the
newsletter discussion (last item at end).
Privilege of the Floor (PoF): Roaring commented that she would like to see
several problems with minutes not being posted cleared up. Also that she would
like to see the CAC accomplish more. She reported that her neighbor was doing a
big logging job in her woods during the same time as the breeding season for
birds and she would like to see more easements for such big property owners.
Owens brought up the topic of the Federal Fish and Wildlife Migratory Bird Act
permitting as a first step (see: https://www.fws.gov/program/migratory-bird-
permits). It was in effect between .. and August 15. There was some discussion
over this being a gray area and not usually paid attention to unless reported and
there was evidence available (afternote: Oct 2021 revision: See
https://www.fws.gov/regulations/mbta )
Approval of February 13, 2024 minutes
Owens moved to approve
Fisk seconded
Approved by all present
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March 12 2024 minutes approval put off until a confusion on Timber Harvesting
section could be cleared up.
REPORTS AND UPDATES (from the agenda and additions) ?????
1. Report from Tompkins Cornell Cooperative Extension Farmland Protection
Educator on monies available to farmers for preserving farmland, and
buying development rights – Crystal Buck
Buck talked to the CAC on what the implications were and how to apply for
the Farmland Protection Grant (See:
https://spectrumlocalnews.com/nys/central-ny/news/2023/09/21/gov--
hochul-announces-over--6-million-in-grants-to-protect-farmland- )
Buck said it was a long process and took a lot of effort. The NY money is
divided between different 6 different regions and Tompkins County is in the
Southern Tier region. It is a rolling grant and last year there was 5 million
allocated to that region, which, as far as she knows is still available. The
farm applicant must be approved in a pre-application process done by the
county. Buck explained to the group what makes a compelling application
(one is that there must be a demonstratable threat of development) and
that even a small farm of 10 acres is eligible. (The county is now doing pre-
application for Spring of 2025). Once the rigorous, preapproval process is
completed and the farm enters the Southern Tier pool, the money is pretty
much awarded on a first come/first server basis (because of the limited
number of applicants). Buck said, that through notification of whether or
not the money is awarded comes reasonably quickly, the downside is the
lengthy time and money (2-3 years) it takes for the bureaucracy to
complete the property rights transfer legal work and release the grant
(legal costs are compensated out of awarded money). This is also time
consuming for the easement granting organization.
Among other things, Buck noted that this program is not for everybody, but
it is a good opportunity for farmers in transition (to create a ready pool of
reinvestment cash). Another comment is that it does not necessarily
decrease the property value. It is often looked at in resale as protecting
your land.
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For more information see Crystal Buck in Tomkins CCE. or David Behm in Ag
and Markets. See https://agriculture.ny.gov/land-and-water/farmland-
protection-implementation-grants-program . Mr Behm’s email is at the
end. Buck said he is a helpful person to begin with.
Discussion followed on possible farm applicants, and group concluded the
best solution was just to announce the availability or program.
2. Status Report: Conservation Easement Tax Abatement – Gagnon
Gagnon said that town board had asked Danby County Legislative
representative, Dan Klein, to get state legislators, Anna Kelles and Lea
Webb to sponsor a bill requesting that the Danby tax abatement be
grandfathered into existing easements - but they have had no feedback
yet. Klingensmith commented all we can do is push.
Klingensmith moved that CAC asks the Town Board to report back
progress made with State Senator Lea Webb and State Assembly
member Anna Kelles to amend the legislation so that tax
abatement can be granted to easement owners who have signed
easement agreements prior to the enactment of the original
legislation granting abatement. It is our understanding that Dan
Klein was asked to engage with this issue.
Schaufler seconded
Approved by all present
3. Status Report: Easement monitoring – Owens
Owens is putting together easement lists and info. In her continuing efforts
to make order out of easement monitoring, she created a spreadsheet on
ZOHO to organize information. She encouraged members to look at it and
update their “parent” related files. Google sheets (docs?) can be loaded
into ZOHO.
Next monitoring date? Using July as a working date. Notification for
“parents” (responsible person for each easement).
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Next easement up for monitoring is Wimsatt. Owens is still rounding up
related files. Monitoring announcement letters still must be formalized and
sent out to easement owners.
4. Status of Timber Harvesting law – Schaufler, Zisk
Schaufler reported that subgroup had met and was working on what should
be included in Danby road law, along with county and state road access
laws, to be used as a tool by the Danby Highway superintendent to monitor
road use and damage. This is in addition to NYSDEC regulations that affect
streams, stream crossings, and sedimentation from logging activity.
Concerns:
• Use Best Management Practices (BMP)
• sediment in streams and erosion (who reports it?)
Gagnon spoke to town lawyer, Guy Krogh, who said to check other town’s
logging laws. Secretary Keokosky reminded the group that a previous CAC
member on this committee, George Adams, had done extensive research
and surveying on other town logging laws. Zisk said he would speak to
Adams.
Some discussion on the possibility of including refence to Migrant Bird Act -
brought up by Roaring - in draft law. Zisk said that Logging Operations
don’t usually require the kind of oversight, such as that provided by
Environmental Impact Statements (EIS). Owens said that she was going to
check the Migrant Bird laws again, as defined by DEC. Primary way of
avoiding problems with birds is simply timing (avoiding nesting months).
She said that mainly the DEC wants you to have a plan, which they usually
always go along with.
5. Updates on on-going easements – from leads on each easement
Andi Goldsmith (gladstone) – Zisk – finishing in next two months
Ben Altman- Zisk – finishing in next two months
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Brian Caldwell – still talking about zones
Butje – on hold
6. Status of checklist to “trigger CAC involvement in town planning of land
use”– Zisk
Zisk reported that trigger is becoming more urgent as plans develop for
Hornbrook Rd. property. New owners are talking about a building used to
house 10 people. Planner Greg Hutnik is asking them to show design of a
sceptic system that can work there for 10 people. Property has a watershed
issue and erosion issue. Stream on property originates below Curtis Rd.
Zisk reviewed the things needed for a trigger and said he would email a
draft copy to CAC members.
7. Newsletter Discussion – Owens
Owens reported her frustration on waiting for a newsletter that provides
CAC with what it needs (i.e. better communication to Danby residents).
She wants to add context to current town newsletter to make it more
interesting.
Owens wants the town to hire someone to assist or replace the current
volunteer so the newsletter would be able to go beyond reporting
municipal news only.
CAC members also expressed concern that article editing is being done by
the editor, and not being returned to the author for changes. They
preferred set guidelines, such as number of words, no political content, etc.
and suggestions to the author.
There was no Executive session
Next Meeting is on May 9, 2024, at 7p.m.
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Adjournment at 9:30 pm
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Submitted by Elizabeth Keokosky (Secretary)