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Meeting Minutes
Roll Call:
Town Board Joel Gagnon, Supervisor
Leslie Connors
Katharine Hunter
Sarah Schnabel
Patricia Woodworth
Highway Superintendent Keith Shipman
Town Planner David West
Town Bookkeeper Laura Shawley
Recording Secretary Janice Adelman, Town Clerk
Guest Attendees
David Norbut
Jon Stone
David Cox
Martin Giandi
Nathan Vander Wal
Owner, Norbut Solar Farms
Norbut Solar Farms
Pastor Associates
Project Engineer, BMA Associates
Nixon Peabody, Project Counsel
1. Meeting Called to Order at 18:04 by Supervisor Gagnon
2. Additions/Deletions to Agenda
2.1. Sentry Invoices to add to General Fund Abstract 9
2.1.1.Jan 1 Invoice
2.1.2.Feb 1 Invoice
2.2. Levels of Operation Review
3. Privilege of the Floor
3.1. Ronda Roaring, Resident:
Spoke to say that she agrees with Bob Lieberman (in his letter attached under
correspondence) on all points. On the other hand, she stated that it is
disingenuous for what she assumes to be the Town Clerk blocking out his contact
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information when he put it in the letter and is on the Cornell website.
3.2. Ted Crane, Resident:
Apologized that he might run a little bit longer; he might have been able to deal
with some of this material in writing but the agenda wasn’t on the website until
today, or very late last night, so he has to respond verbally to everything for all of
his thoughts. (1) The agenda hyperlink for the 20th of April meeting minutes
doesn’t work; he can’t say anything about them. (2) The resolution of appreciation
for Gould Colman is a wonderful idea, but Crane thinks that were he not a
democrat, he might be offended that the first thing mentioned in that resolution is
that he was a member of an exclusive organization [the Democratic Committee]
that shouldn’t be part of what the town recognizes in a non-partisan way. (3) In
general Crane likes zoom meetings but doesn’t like that some people would opt
out at their whim; the solution according to Crane is to use the videoconferencing
option very infrequently and only when a councilperson will be absent but could
come in by video conference. (4) The modest extension of the hamlet does not
offer any explanatory details while the map linked to the agenda appears to be a
much larger extension than modest. His main concern is what it means to expand
in that area; what are the zoning and neighborhood requirements that would be
extended beyond where they are now. Crane is personally not in favor of seeing
houses spaced 10 or 20 feet going quite a distance out from the center of town,
which is too close to the rural zone. (5) The last time the NYStretch code came
before the board there was a substantial argument for not approving it because it
was too expensive. However, Crane stated “if you think you ... can save some
people money today in return for an infinite time forward when they’re going to be
paying more and the breakeven is not ver y far out, that’s shortsighted thinking.”
Crane is in favor of enacting these guidelines as soon as possible to have the best
long-term effect. (6) Crane read through the proposed SPCA law change and
deduced that it does not make the law more specific—it changes it completely. (7)
Crane objected to the inclusion of privilege of the floor in the 27 April minutes
when none was announced at the meeting and the meeting proceeded without it.
3.3. Garry Huddle, Resident:
Stated that the resolution for Gould is a great idea but thinks the town should be
careful about putting this out when two other people who recently died that did a
lot for the town but were not equally recognized: Ric Dotson (somewhat
controversial) and Ralph Bowles (with over 50 or 60 years of dedicated ser vice in
the fire department). Theresa Klinger also noted that Ralph was a town judge.
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Huddle acknowledged that and recalled a discussion when Liz Roe was the editor
of the Danby News and initiated a series and a proposal to recognize people who
have contributed to the vibrancy of the town; a long discussion was had about how
to decide who to recognize.
Supervisor Gagnon noted that he would be happy to entertain proposed language
for recognitions if Garry would be willing to propsoe something.
Huddle agreed to draw something up. He also responded to the proposed change
in the town dog law being the result of two recent dog cases before the court
where either people or animals or both had been bitten by a dog. The justices
found that the portion of the law stating the dog must be “under control by voice
command” is broad and difficult to prove in court.
4. Correspondence
4.1. Email: Noise ordinance and question about Zoning Enforcement
From: Robert H. Lieberman
Thu, 28 Apr 2022 11:21:49 -0400
To: townboard@danby.ny.gov
Hi,
My wife and I strongly support the noise ordinance being proposed,
esp. since we are assailed by ATV, dirt bikes, people blasting
stereos, and constant gunfire. This is long overdue.
Now, here’s a question:
Why isn’t Danby enforcing the junk ordinance law that’s clearly on
the books. How about cleaning up all the eyesores plaguing our
town? This affects property valuations, taxes, etc. Why is the town
so timid?
Best Regards,
Robert H. Lieberman
4.2. Letter: Danby Noise Ordinance by Garry Huddle
Danby Town Board:
My thoughts and concerns about the Danby Noise Ordinance as a resident of the
town of Danby for over 50 years. I have many questions and concerns about this
proposed Noise Ordinance the way it is written.
First, I don’t think this is the time to have a Public Hearing on the Noise
Ordinance. A topic like this that may be controversial should be in person not via
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Zoom. Many older people, other people that are not computer literate and others
that don’t have internet access will not be able to participate.
Danby was organized as a town in 1811 and annexed to Tompkins County in 1823,
that’s 211 years, why the rush. Let’s wait until we can meet in person to have the
public hearing so any of the town people that may be interested can attend.
As we all know the peace and wellbeing of ever yone is ver y important to all of us.
We also know that there are neighbors out there that are very annoying and hard
to get along with, and we also know that there are other neighbors out there that
would sit on their decks or porches and complain about anything, one is just as
bad as the other. And when you have neighbors like that living next to each other
is not a good situation. Don’t pass a law or ordinance to satisfy a few at the
expense of the whole town.
5. Announcements — none
6. Reports & Presentations
6.1. Code Enforcement Officer—tabled until next meeting
6.2. Town Clerk’s April 2022 Report
Pursuant to Section 27, Subd 1 of the Town Law, I hereby make the following statement
of all fees and moneys received by me in connection with my office during the month
stated above, excepting only such fees and moneys the application and payment of
which are otherwise provided for by Law:
Dept
Budget
Line Description Qty
Total
Monies
Collected
External
Agency
Remit to
Agency
Remit to
Danby
Gen Fund
Clerk A1255 DECALS 2 $245.00 NYS DEC $241.86 $3.14
Marriage Licenses 0 $0.00 NYS DoH 0.00 $0.00
Marriage
Transcripts 0 $0.00 — 0.00 $0.00
A1550 Impoundment Fees 1 $0.00 SPCA 0.00 $0.00
A2544 Dog Licenses 6 $99.00 NYS A&M $10.00 $89.00
Code A2555 Building Permits 4 $295.00 — 0.00 $295.00
Planner A2110 Zoning Appeals 1 $120.00 — 0.00 $120.00
A2115 Planning Fees 2 $135.00 — 0.00 $135.00
A2655 Subdivisions 1 $235.00 — 0.00 $235.00
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Grand Totals $1,129.00 $251.86 $877.14
STATE OF NEW YORK, COUNTY OF TOMPKINS, TOWN OF DANBY
I, Janice Adelman, being duly sworn, say that I am the Clerk of the Town of Danby and
that the foregoing is a full and true statement of all Fees and moneys received by me
during the month above stated, excepting only such Fees the application and payment
of which are otherwise provided for by law.
Subscribed and sworn this 3rd day of May 2022.
—Janice Adelman
6.3. Town Planner David West
6.3.1.Last Planning Board meeting was a busy one, involving:
6.3.1.1.Site Plan Approval was granted for two parcels; the first site plan
approvals under the new zoning law.
- 121 Durfee Hill
- 158 Peter Road
The Site Plan Review for the above-referenced parcels highlighted
the differences in the new process; Planner West devoted his
column in the Danby Town News to discussing the process of Site
Plan Review and what the Planning Board can and cannot do.
6.3.1.2.Began review of two cluster subdivisions
- 108 Marsh Road
- 256 Bruce Hill Road
The two cluster subdivisions are also odd implementations and
unique circumstances which is par for the course with feeling out
how the new rules and processes will be implemented.
West noted that 256 Bruce Hill may end up moving to the BZA
since the Planning Board grapples with the flexibility that they
have, what they’re comfortable granting, and what they would
prefer to be reviewed by the BZA.
6.3.2.A property at the top of Beardsley Lane and 96B is now under
construction, however it does not match the approved site plan, granted
prior to West’s tenure. The project will come back to the Planning Board
next month for review of what they have started and the need to get the
Planning Board’s approval for any site plan amendments in terms of
landscaping and grading Both the Highway Department and Planner
West have visited the site.
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6.3.3.The first short-term rental advisory group meeting happened this
morning.
6.3.4.West is coordinating a site visit to the solar farm field location for the
Planning Board in particular to understand the sighting considerations
there when they take this project application back up for review this
month.
6.3.5.West will meet with a School District representative to discuss Danby’s
tax reduction of conservation easements. Ideally, this would have
involvement from them in helping the town think about how tax
abatement gets implemented to maximize the likelihood that the school
district would participate which is really important if the town wants it to
be a useful thing for the property.
7. Consent Agenda
Adding the Jan and Feb 2022 Sentry Invoices to the General Fund Abstract 9 will result in
adding Voucher 146 in the amount of $895, for a total amount owed on abstract 9 as
$9,513.40. The two bills had been received and paid in the same amount in 2021; there
was no record of receiving these bills in 2022 until Sentry called the Town Clerk’s office
earlier today to inquire about their status.
7.1. Minutes
7.1.1. 20 April 2022 Regular Board Meeting
7.1.2. 27 April 2022 Special Board Meeting
7.2. Warrants
7.2.1. Highway Fund Abstract 08 with Vouchers 69–86 for $43,386.82
7.2.2. General Fund Abstract 9 Vouchers 130–145 for $8.618.40
7.2.3. Water Fund Abstract 9 Vouchers 52–55 for $5,233.03
Resolution 111 of 2022 To Approve Consent Agenda with Addition of Voucher 146 Thereby
Increasing the Expenditures for General Fund Abstract 9 to $9,513.40
Moved By:Schnabel Seconded By:Hunter
Vote:
Councilperson Aye Nay Abstain
Connors X
Hunter X
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Schnabel X
Woodworth X
Gagnon X
Resolution 111 approved
8. Business
8.1. Review Current Levels of Operation at Level Two
8.1.1.Masks remain in effect at Town Hall (Level Two)
8.1.2.Gagnon noted the ability to meet remotely runs through 8 June 2022; he
stated that it would be nice to have enabling legislation to continue remote
attendance.
8.2. Gould Colman Resoultion of Appreciation
Discussion: Hunter noted that recognizing individuals has been haphazard and
understands Huddle’s comments about recognizing deceased residents who have
made substantial contributions to the town. Perhaps the historian could
spearhead this endeavor going forward.
Resolution 112 of 2022 to Recognize Gould Colman
Moved By: Gagnon Seconded By: Connors
The Danby Town Board acknowledges with appreciation the long histor y and
incredible breadth of service of Gould Colman to the Town of Danby.
He was an early organizer and Chair of the Danby Democratic Committee and
actively engaged in its work until quite recently, chairing the party nominating
caucus several times. He served as a volunteer firefighter, several times on the
Advisory Board of Assessment Review, and as Deputy Town Super visor, in addition
to a long and supportive involvement with the Danby Community Council and
Danby Community Park Association. His can-do spirit inspired many and
exemplified a responsible citizenship that seeks to build up and support the
common good. He saw where he could be of service (he was the dog enumerator
in 1966!) and willingly brought to bear his unique talents and skills. Danby is much
the better because Gould Colman chose to dwell amongst us.
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Vote:
Councilperson Aye Nay Abstain
Connors X
Hunter X
Schnabel X
Woodworth X
Gagnon X
Resolution 112 approved
8.3. SEQR Review of Norbut Solar Farm & Potential Project Approval
8.3.1.Planner West delivered copies of the full Norbut Solar Project application
to Board members. Since that delivery, changes were made. West
continues to keep the online version up-to-date. Paper copies of the
application are available at Town Hall.
8.3.2.West noted that Norbut Solar is working hard to keep this project moving
for ward and get approvals moving since there are funding deadlines for
solar subsidies that would affect them. These deadlines are not the
town’s concern, however, it is worth mentioning them and acknowledging
Norbut’s continued efforts to respond to the town’s concerns and provide
information as quickly as possible.
8.3.3. With that goal in mind, there's a few things before the board today.
Norbut provided a full application a week ago which has already had
some changes made with the DEC looking at stormwater impacts and our
TG Miller Consulting Engineers looking into a few more things to that
may need further clarification before recommending moving into final
review of SEQR and adoption of zoning change.
8.3.4.West suggested scheduling a special meeting on May 23rd to allow
enough time to advertise for the public hearing given the proposed
zoning change. Given the many moving parts, the town is trying to do the
best they can to be accommodating while also being careful.
8.3.5.A newly stated impact relates to the Northern Harrier raptor, an
endangered species that was identified on the site during one of the
DEC’s site visits. This requires them to move for ward with a breeding
season study that will run from May through July 2022. The question for
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the Board is whether removing the forest on this parcel would have a
moderate to large impact or a small impact. Discussion on this
information involved turning to experts in Danby, including Bill Evans and
the CAC for input.
8.3.6.The main point from Planner West is that the board cannot make a
conditional SEQR approval; for SEQR Type I action like this, any
mitigating efforts to reduce a significant impact would have to be
included in the application package.
Norbut Solar representative Jon Stone introduced the Norbut Solar Farm
representatives present at the meeting and spoke to some of the
concerns that had been raised. Re the wetlands, there is a final
agreement on the delineation between all surveyors with an additional
10th of an acre. Norbut has agreed to revise the design to remove panels
that are in conflict with the new delineation.
8.3.7.Councilperson Schnabel asked what should be done next. West replied as
follows:
8.3.7.1.There are a few punch list items that the applicant can turn
around fairly quickly.
8.3.7.2.Depending on the Board’s comfort level, you could schedule a
special meeting for 23 May 2022 with the understanding that the
applicant would need to have a very final application that
addresses the last concerns of the engineer.
8.3.7.3.Working through draft SEQR Parts II and III in a way that’s
acceptable to Town Attorney Guy Krogh and that the board agrees
with while getting experts’ feedback on mitigating some of the
concerns that have been raised.
8.3.7.4.Of note is that the applicant is no longer requesting a subdivision,
however a zoning change is still needed because the zoning was
updated on half of the parcel and the hamlet neighborhood which
still needs to be resolved.
8.3.7.5.West requests feedback from the Board on where they are looking
at the SEQR going, what kind of concerns are there, with the
Northern Harrier sighting and other little details on the site itself.
8.3.7.6.Once SEQR and zoning amendments are approved, it would then
move to the Planning Board which is the board in charge of the
Site Plan Review.
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Resolution 113 of 2022 to Schedule Public Hearing/Special Meeting on 23 May 2022
at 6pm Contingent Upon receiving Something Or Other
Moved By: Schnabel Seconded By: Woodworth
Vote:
Councilperson Aye Nay Abstain
Connors X
Hunter X
Schnabel X
Woodworth X
Gagnon X
Resolution 113 approved
8.4. Consider Creating a Local Law to Set Conditions for Remote Board Meeting
Attendance Coinciding with Updated OML Amendment
8.4.1.Councilperson Schnabel has an initial draft of a video-conferencing policy
that would enable board participation at meetings via video-conference
under extraordinary circumstances.
8.4.2.Gagnon noted that extraordinar y circumstances include care-giving, OR an
unexpected event, e.g., road conditions or bereavement.
8.4.3.Schnabel asked what others thought of the options in the draft law and
what other options should be considered.
8.4.3.1.Schnabel suggested when someone is sick, they automatically
video-conference in rather than attend in person.
8.4.3.2.Board members discussed finer details around expected versus
unexpected out of town appearances, e.g., due to caregiving for a
relative out of town, or wintering Florida, respectively.
8.4.4.Schnabel is ready to have a draft version to consider on the 18th.
Scheduling a public hearing is tabled until then.
8.5. Consider a Modest Extension of the Hamlet Neighborhood Zone North of Bald
Hill Road in a Westerly Direction
8.5.1.The Zen Center owner wants to add 3 more houses to their parcel on Bald
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Hill Road, which is currently in rural zone 2.
8.5.1.1.The Zen Center parcel is the first parcel outside the of the
Hamlet neighborhood.
8.5.1.2.The parcel is just over 10 acres and has already exceeded
development capacity in the R2 zone.
8.5.2.The question for the Board is whether they would allow for further
development here.
8.5.2.1.If so, West will draw up a local law to proceed.
8.5.3.What development potential has the zen center used under the rural 2
designation would not be easy to determine.
8.5.3.1.The easiest thing to do, then, is to re-zone it as part of the
hamlet neighborhood.
8.5.4.The Board is willing to consider this; it will come back as a proposal for a
zoning change.
8.6. Consider Authorizing Payment of Shawley Lodging for One Night at the PERMA
(Public Employees Risk Management Association) Conference
Resolution 114 of 2022 to Authorize One Night Lodging for Laura and Jack Shawley
at the May 2022 PERMA Conference
Moved By: Woodworth Seconded By: Connors
Vote:
Councilperson Aye Nay Abstain
Connors X
Hunter X
Schnabel X
Woodworth X
Gagnon X
Resolution 114 approved
8.7. To Stretch or Not to Stretch
Resolution 115 of 2022 To Schedule Public Hearing on LL to implement NYStretch
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Energy Code for 7 June 2022 at 6pm
Moved By: Gagnon Seconded By: Schnabel
Vote:
Councilperson Aye Nay Abstain
Connors X
Hunter X
Schnabel X
Woodworth X
Gagnon X
Resolution 115 approved
8.8. Consider Amending Dog Control Law per SPCA Recommendation
8.8.1.Discussion revolved on the issue of controlling one’s dog by “voice
command”; this was difficult to show fault on in court, evidenced by two
recent court cases.
8.8.2.Tabled until feedback received from SPCA
9. Discussion of Next Meeting Agenda
9.1. Resolution for meetings to have a hard stop after 2 hours.
9.2. Current Level of Operation
9.3. Noise ordinance public hearing
9.4. NYStretch Energy
9.5. Draft ordinance of video conferencing
10. Meeting Adjourned at 20:24.
Submitted by Janice R. Adelman
Town Clerk
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