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Town of Danby Planning Board
Minutes of Regular Meeting
October 18, 2022
DRAFT
PRESENT:
Ed Bergman
Collen Cowan
Kelly Maher
Jamie Vanucchi
Jody Scriber (Chair)
ABSENT:
Scott Davis
OTHER ATTENDEES:
Town Planner David West
Recording Secretary Alyssa de Villiers
Public (in person) Heather Donnelly, T. Hanson, Lavante House, Mr. Lawrence, Wilma Lawrence
Public (virtual) Leslie Connors (Town Board member), Katharine Hunter (Town Board member),
Joel Gagnon (Town Supervisor and Town Board member), Powers, Bruce
Richards, Ronda Roaring, Tom Westmiller, Anon1
This meeting was conducted in person with virtual access on the Zoom platform.
The meeting was opened at 7:02 p.m.
(1) CALL TO ORDER/AGENDA REVIEW
Minutes approval was removed from the agenda because the minute were not yet complete (apologies
from the secretary).
(2) PRIVILEGE OF THE FLOOR
In the draft checklist for site plan review, Ronda Roaring asked to change the section called “Landscape” to
“Natural Environment.” She also said she would like the Town to pass an ordinance that requires people
who have prohibited invasive plants to either remove them or to deal with them in some way. Regarding the
Coddington Rd. property, Ms. Roaring expressed concern that driveway sharing might lead to many homes
on one driveway that then would request the Town to maintain a new road.
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(3) TOWN BOARD LIAISON REPORT
As Leslie Connors, Town Board Liaison, was not yet present, Town Board member Joel Gagnon shared
the following information:
• The Town Board discouraged a Planned Development Zone to create eight lots on four acres on
E. Miller Rd. because it is not the density they would like to see in that neig hborhood.
• The Town Board reviewed the money for new trucks and the sexual harassment procedures.
• There will be many upcoming meetings to deal with the budget.
(4) DEVELOPMENT REVIEW
SUB-2022-06 1496 Coddington Rd.
Parcel: 6.-1-11.322
Applicant: George Aresnault
Anticipated Board action(s) this month: SEQR Determination, Consider Preliminary and Final
Approval
Zone: Rural 1
SEQR: Unlisted
Proposal: The applicant would like to subdivide off a 10-acre parcel with 15' of road frontage from
their 72.9-acre parcel. The lot currently has 225' of frontage.
New Documents: Subdivision plat
Planner West gave a brief explanation of the case, and Lavante House, the grandson of the applicant,
reviewed what he wants to do.
SEQR
Planner West reviewed the Short Environmental Assessment Form (SEAF) Part I, filled out by the
applicant. West said that there is a 0.15-acre wetland on the 70-acre lot, but not near the proposed
subdivision. He added that any stormwater from additional impervious surfaces (the driveway) will drain into
the Coddington Rd. ditch. Planner West read aloud Part II of the SEAF, and it was agreed that the answer
was “no or small impact may occur” to all questions. He also drafted a paragraph giving additional
explanation for the Board’s reasoning.
MOTION: The proposed action will not result in any significant adverse environmental impacts.
Moved by Maher, seconded by Bergman
The motion passed.
In favor: Bergman, Cowan, Maher, Vanucchi, Scriber
Approval
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Board member Vanucchi, having missed the previous meeting, asked about whether an agreement for the
shared driveway was needed; she thought having something in writing would be a good idea. Board
member Maher pointed out that if a future owner wanted to put in their own driveway, there is room. Board
member Cowan added that if the property is sold, lawyers will make sure that that is in order. It was
decided not to place any conditions.
MOTION: Approve preliminary and final plat
Moved by Bergman, seconded by Vanucchi
The motion passed.
In favor: Bergman, Cowan, Maher, Vanucchi, Scriber
SPR-2022-08 1496 Coddington Rd.
Parcel: 6.-1-11.322
Applicant: George Aresnault
Anticipated Board action(s) this month: Application Review, Schedule (with option to hold)
Public Hearing, Consider Preliminary and Final Approval
Zone: Rural 1
SEQR: Type II
Proposal: Applicant would like to build a house. In the Rural 1 zone, site plan review is required for
this action under Section 601.
Public Hearing
The public hearing was opened at 7:22 p.m.
Wilma Lawrence said she supported the new residence and, as a neighbor, she had no objections or
concerns.
Mr. Lawrence said he, too, had no objections and looked forward to having Mr. House as a neighbo r; there
is only one house between them and where this will be built.
Ronda Roaring said she felt it was a crazy place to put a septic system, particularly the leach line , as there
is a significant slope. She asked that something be put in to the agreement that the driveway cannot
become a Town road.
Mr. House said their driveway would not be a public road; it would be between him and his mother.
The only thing besides cars on it would be a tractor for haying.
The public hearing was closed at 7:25 p.m.
Approval
One condition was added: that new outdoor lighting must be dark-sky compliant.
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MOTION: Approve site plan
Moved by Bergman, seconded by Maher
The motion passed.
In favor: Bergman, Cowan, Maher, Vanucchi, Scriber
SUB-2022-07 36 Valley View Rd.
Parcel: 17.-1-26
Applicant: Tom Westmiller
Anticipated Board action(s) this month: Application Review, Schedule (with option to hold)
Public Hearing, Declare Lead Agency, Option to do SEQR Determination, Consider Preliminary
and Final Approval
Zone: Hamlet Neighborhood SEQR: Unlisted
Proposal: The applicant would like to subdivide off 1.7 acres to create a viable building lot. The
current lot is 2.28 acres. The portion to be subdivided was added to the existing parcel in 2016.
Planner West said this is a new application for the Planning Board, but he did advertise for a public hearing
in case the Board wanted to have one. The survey provided is from when a piece of land was purchased
and added to the applicant’s land. The part that was purchased was subdivided from a lot to the south that
is owned by Bruce Richards. The current application is to undo the addition so there will be two lots. This in
the Hamlet Neighborhood zone, so there is no minimum lot size. This is in the West Danby water district,
meaning it is likely to comply with septic regulations. There is road access from Route 34/96.
Public Hearing
The public hearing was opened at 7:40 p.m.
T. Hanson said that she is a neighbor. She recently bought her house, next to what is now a field, and she
had no idea the field was zoned to be able to be put a house there. There is currently a hedgerow that
protects her view from 34/96. She was concerned about the possibility of headlights shining into her house
once a driveway is put in. She also said that the field provides northern harrier habitat.
Planner West said that in this zone there is no Planning Board review for a single-family home as
long as it meets the building code and the zoning code.
Bruce Richards, who was with the applicant on Zoom, said that the Westmillers want to gift the to-be-
subdivided parcel to their son to build a house. The property is not mortgageable currently, which is why
they want to subdivide. That is the reason he sold the lot to them in 2013. He has no objections and did not
think it would change the community much at all. He did not think the hedgerow would be removed,
because the new owners would want the same buffer from the highway. He did not think the driveway
would be directed to Ms. Hanson’s house, and he thought her concerns could be easily mitigated.
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Joel Gagnon asked how the water would get to the future house since it would have to cross another
property; he mentioned a property across the street that had an issue. He added that since this is in the
Hamlet Neighborhood, he would actually like to see more houses there rather than just one.
Mr. Richards did not think the applicant would have an issue running an easement for the water,
except for the expense, and the meter and the shutoff will be near the road.
Planner West said that to be in compliance with the zoning, a house would need to be built close to the
road. If there was a variance process, the Planning Board could be involved in reviewing a site plan or the
applicant could ask for a review from the Board of the Zoning Appeals. He would not be surprised if the
applicant asks for a variance as 34/96 is not currently traffic-calmed.
The public hearing was closed at 7:57 p.m.
SEQR
MOTION: Declare the Planning Board lead agency
Moved by Maher, seconded by Cowan
The motion passed.
In favor: Bergman, Cowan, Maher, Vanucchi, Scriber
Planner West reviewed the Short Environmental Assessment Form (SEAF) Part I, filled out by the
applicant. He said that there is a wetland across the street, which was close enough to tick the box in
question 13. As was stated in the public hearing, the site contains norther harrier habitat (question 15).
Board member Bergman asked what action could be taken to mitigate effects on the red harrier habitat.
West said that it is possible to request a section of field is left intact. Bergman confirmed that when the
homebuilders go to get approval for their house location, if they do not want to keep it close to the road,
they will need to return to either the Planning Board or BZA.
Chair Scriber felt that if the Board wanted to say something, they should do it now, so the whole thought
process is not lost by the time the applicants come before a board again. The Board considered requiring a
100’ rear yard setback rather than 50’ as a mitigation.
Mr. Richards said there is a conflict between wanting to put more houses there (Joel Gagnon’s point) and
leaving more preserved area. His lot, next door, has many unmowed areas, and he said he was willing to
expand them. He was not sure what was gained for the Town or the environment by creating compl ications.
Planner West said that, for any impact, the Board is tasked with considering the setting, probability of
occurrence, geographic scope, magnitude, duration, reversibility, and the number of people affected. He
felt that because the lot size was small, the scope and magnitude was small; it is not reversible, and it has
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a high probability of occurring. He noted that the zoning allows four houses without site plan review in this
zone.
Vanucchi felt the Board did not have enough information to understand the impact of this particular parcel
on the broader habitat. She said that, on the one hand, she understood that it was a small lot, but there was
also the idea of death by a thousand paper cuts. But she pointed out that the back portion could also turn
into forest if the owners stop maintaining the meadow, in which case the habitat would also goes away.
Cowan noted that there is a wetland across the road that is protected, and Maher added that there is large
field nearby. After being recognized by the Chair, Ms. Hanson said the northern harrier makes its nest in
the ground, but near a wetland. She thought the birds were probably nesting in the Lindsay-Parsons
preserve, but then hunting in the nearby fields. She mentioned the concept of wildlife corridors and said
there is a detriment to breaking those up.
Bergman pointed out that the whole Town just decided where they wanted land preserved in greater size
and where they wanted development, so it felt hard to go against that. Cowan agreed that there were a lot
of restrictions placed on a lot of the Town. She said more houses are needed, and this is where the Town
said it wants building. She felt that if there was a way to alert future boards that the habitat should be
considered if it comes up again, that would be best.
Bergman said it would be nice to see more guidelines as to what is “significant.” He felt he needed more
time to gather information. The rest of the Board was in agreement. No further action was taken.
(5) REVIEW OF SITE PLAN GUIDELINES
Planner West said he felt it was important to give applicants a standard of what the Board wants ; this
should be achievable without the help of an architect or engineer. The Board reviewed the document he
provided.
Maher said she would like to see something about slope or contours. Bergman commented that it was a
good idea to make it clear what is needed right from the beginning. Vanucchi suggested redrawing the
example using the base information West typically provides to applicants.
(6) PLANNER REPORT
Planner West reported the following:
• He has been working on grant applications. He hopes to put in a good application for NY Forward
next year. The Town did put in a grant for a grant-writing consultant; they asked for $10,000, which
is now under review by the County legislature.
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• The solar farm is not quite done. He is still reviewing their decommissioning plan. When the
contract is signed, Norbut Solar will be able to move forward.
• It appears Sunbeam Candles will not be moving to Danby.
• Elana Maragni has left the Planning Board, so there is an open spot on the Board. Chair Scriber’s
term is up at the end of the year, but she can re-apply, which she plans to do.
• Alyssa de Villiers is ending her time as secretary at the end of the year.
(8) ADJOURNMENT
The meeting was adjourned at 8:39 p.m.
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Alyssa de Villiers – Recording Secretary
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