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BOARD OF ZONING APPEALS DRAFT MINUTES
Town of Danby Board of Zoning Appeals
Minutes of Hearing and Meeting
August 23, 2022
DRAFT
PRESENT:
Lew Billington
Toby Dean
Ted Jones
Betsy Lamb
Earl Hicks (Chair)
OTHER ATTENDEES:
Town Planner David West
Recording Secretary Alyssa de Villiers
Public Leslie Connors (Town Board member), Katharine Hunter (Town Board member),
Theresa Klinger, Douglas Paucke, Mellora Paucke, Mary Woodsen, Anon1
This meeting was conducted virtually on the Zoom platform.
The meeting was called to order at 7:01 p.m.
1. AGENDA REVIEW
There were no additions or deletions to the agenda.
Planner West reported that the Town is working on a study of possible ways to serve the hamlet area with
wastewater treatment services; people in the hamlet will be getting a survey regarding water quality and
septic issues. The Town also has a survey out related to a grant that, if gotten, would allow the Town to
fund renovations for low-income homeowners with substandard housing issues. Lastly, the Town is looking
at adding a small amount of land to the Hamlet Neighborhood zone on Bald Hill Rd. near Lieb Rd.
2. MINUTES APPROVAL
MOTION: Approve the minutes from June 28, 2022
Moved by Jones, seconded by Dean
The motion passed.
In favor: Billington, Dean, Jones, Lamb, Hicks
3. NEW BUSINESS
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VAR-2022-05 15 Hill Rd., Parcel: 20.-1-19.2
Applicant: Mellora and Douglas Paucke
Anticipated Board action(s) this month: Public Hearing, Consideration of Appeal
Zone: Low Density Residential
SEQR: Type II, no further review required
County 239 Review: Exempt
Proposal: The applicant would like to add a 40'x80' garage as close as 10' from the side lot line.
The LDR zone has a limit of 1200 sq. ft. for garages and a requirement of a 50' side yard setback
for garages over 1000 sq. ft.
Chair Hicks introduced the Board and explained the process. He noted that this case is a Type II action
under the State Environmental Quality Review Act (SEQRA), with no further review required, and it is
exempt from county review.
Applicant’s Description
Mellora Paucke said they are hoping to build a 40x80’ pole barn that would be over 50’ from the road and
15’ from the side property line. The goal is to house multiple cars and tractors as well as associated
implements. She added that they had talked to their neighbors, who did not express any problem with the
project. She felt there would not be a big impact to the area, there were not alternatives, it was not
substantial, and it would not have a negative impact. People might see it when they drive by, but there is a
limited view of it and the road is not highly travelled. It will be closest to Theresa Klinger’s property, and the
area between it and her house is wooded. Douglas Paucke added that when they started the project, they
were operating under the old zoning rules, which allowed the building to be within 10’ of the property line.
He said it took quite a lot of fill to bring the site up, which they then had to let sit and settle.
Public Comment
The public hearing was opened at 7:19 p.m.
Theresa Klinger (11 Hill Rd.) had written a letter of support, which she wanted to reiterate. She said her
property butts up to the Paucke’s property. Her house is approximately 270’ away from their mutual
boundary and in between is woods. She did not believe the structure would be obstructing any view for her,
and she agreed the road is not highly travelled on. She said that she did not oppose the project and thought
it would allow the Pauckes to remove a portable shed and a storage container.
Mary Woodsen (132 South Danby Rd.) said she wanted to feel confident that it would not be on South
Danby Rd. On Hill Rd., she would have less of a personal caring and leave the matter to the Board.
The public hearing was closed at 7:31 p.m.
Board Questions and Discussion
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The Board reviewed a map of the area. In response to a question from Chair Hicks, Planner West
explained that before the zoning change almost all the Town was in the Low Density Residential zone .
Some parcels were then taken out and placed in th ree newly created zones. This property remained in Low
Density Residential and did not change zones. However, two changes that happened almost townwide
were that a limit was placed on the size of garages and the side setback requirement for large accessory
buildings was increased. This does not affect true agricultural operations, so it does not affect farmers. He
said that under the new rules, anything larger than 1000 sq. ft. needs to be 50’ from property lines, which
treats something that is the size of house like a house in terms of setbacks. Small accessory buildings
under 144 sq. ft. can be as close as 5’ from the property line and buildings between 144 and 1000 sq. ft.
follow the old requirement of a 10’ setback.
Board member Lamb restated the difference between a barn and a garage: no matter if something is called
a pole barn, to be a barn it must be associated with an agricultural entity and farming . After confirming that
if the structure was under 1000 sq. ft. there would be no need for a variance because it could be within 10’
of the boundary, Lamb asked the Pauckes about making the building smaller. Ms. Paucke said that in their
planning they used an online tool to manipulate the size needed to fit and maneuver what they have and it
would not fit in a 1000 sq. ft. structure.
Board member Dean asked if a lane running along the eastern property boundary between the proposed
location and the neighbor’s lot was on the Pauckes’ property; they said it was. Dean also noted that the
property to the west does have a long, barn-type building very close to the applicant’s western property
line.
Lamb asked about the size limit prior to the zoning change, and Planner West said there was no limit. West
said it was his understanding that the applicant had contacted the Town and begun planning and site prep
for the project based on the zoning at the time. Hicks asked the applicants to elaborate on this. Ms. Paucke
said they started bringing fill in in 2018 and 2019. Then they leveled the site and let it set for a year. When
they went to get quotes to build, they found labor and material shortages and delays in building. Hicks
noted that the quote the applicants provided was from June 2021. Hicks asked West to describe the zoning
revision process, which West did. (The zoning code was updated in January of 2022.)
Lamb asked to the applicant to describe where the building would be in comparison to the current location
of the 8’ x 40’ storage container, which Mr. Paucke did. Hicks summarized that the narrow end of the
building will be about 80’ from the road. He asked the applicants if they were planning to move the storage
container, and they said yes, although not immediately.
Area Variance Findings & Decision
The Board of Zoning Appeals considered the appeal of Mellora and Douglas Paucke regarding the property
at 15 Hill Rd. (Tax parcel 20.-1-19.2) for an Area Variance from the zoning code Section 512,1c that
requires a 50’ setback from a side lot line for an accessory building over 1000 sq.ft. and Section 603,2a that
allows by right garages up to 1200 sq.ft. in the Low Density Residential zone .
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1. The Board agreed no undesirable change would be produced in the character of the neighborhood
or a detriment to nearby properties.
Lamb noted that the site was pretty well shielded, although the blue spruce shielding along
the road may deteriorate. Jones thought the character might improve with the removal of
the storage container. He liked that there was a good distance between the proposed site
and the neighbor’s house. Dean said no and he appreciated the alignment of the building
with the small end towards the road. Billington and Hicks agreed.
2. The Board agreed that the benefit sought by the applicant could not be achieved by a feasible
alternative of the variance.
Lamb said that, based on the applicant’s discussion, a smaller building is not feasible. In
terms of putting it elsewhere, the applicants have already put the fill down. Jones said
there are 20 acres of land, but the chosen location makes the most sense for car use.
Size-wise, for three vehicles, a tractor, a mower, and equipment, there is no real
alternative. Billington and Dean agreed. Hicks asked about the provided quote, which was
for 40’x60’, and Ms. Paucke said that at the time (mid pandemic), that was what was
available in terms of materials and price. Hicks felt that shrinking the building was not
feasible and moving it west would start to impact the driveway.
3. The Board agreed the requested variance was substantial.
Lamb thought it was substantial, both in terms of size and setback. Jones agreed that
going from 1200 sq. ft. to 3600 sq. ft. and 50’ to 10’ was substantial. Dean and Hicks
agreed. Billington agreed that it was substantial but noted that the project planning was
done carefully and prior to the change in zoning it was not substantial.
4. The Board agreed the variance would not have an adverse impact on the physical or
environmental conditions in the neighborhood.
Lamb thought not because of the woods to the east, the shielding towards the road, and
the angle of the building. Jones also thought not, adding that the spirit of the law is to
maintain a character, which he did not think it would have an adverse effect on. Billington
and Dean agreed. Hicks thought much of the environmental impact was in the past (when
the site was cleared and the fill was brought in); any changes the Board recommended
could be more impact, for example in needing to cut down trees. He established that the
applicant would be putting in a concrete floor at some point, there will be electric, there will
not be running water, and there will be no septic.
5. The Board agreed that the alleged difficulty was not self-created.
All members felt it was not self-created because the applicants started the project under
one set of rules and then the rules changed.
Hicks brought up what would happen if the neighbor to the east subdivided that property with road frontage
on Hill Rd. In terms of setting a precedent, he felt a future BZA would be hard -pressed to say no if the new
owner then wanted to put up a similarly sized building on their lot line, which would mean two large
buildings within 30’ of each other. Lamb thought the imagined new landowner would still have to go through
the variance process and look at alternatives. Billington thought it unlikely that another applicant would be
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similarly victimized by a change in zoning. Planner West encouraged the Board to think about how t hey
apply the five tests—these should be applied uniformly, even if the outcome may be different in different
cases due to mitigating factors.
Hicks was interested in seeing the distance from the road to the building specified so there would be no
surprises. A condition of placing the structure at least 80’ from the road to mitigate its large size was
discussed, but it was decided that it was unnecessary and overly complicating, particularly because the fill
was already located. No conditions were added.
The BZA found 2000 sq. ft. from Section 603 and 35’ from Section 512 were the minimum variance that
should be granted in order to preserve and protect the character of the neighborhood and the health, safety
and welfare of the community because of all of the above discussed reasons and the following: shielding
exists both between the next door property and the road, the orientation of the building with the short side
towards the road helps, there are other large buildings in the neighborhood, it doe s not impact anyone
else’s view, and the project was undertaken carefully considering the zoning in existence when it was
originally conceived.
MOTION: The benefit to the applicant does outweigh the detriment to the neighborhood or community.
Moved by Lamb, seconded by Dean
The motion passed.
In favor: Billington, Dean, Jones, Lamb, Hicks
4. ADJOURNMENT
The meeting was adjourned at 9:01 p.m.
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Alyssa de Villiers – Recording Secretary