HomeMy WebLinkAbout2021-07-21 Town Board MinutesTown of Dan by Town Board
Regular Second Monthly Board Meeting
Wednesday 21 July 2021 at 7:00 PM
Town Hall & Zoom Video Conferencing
https://zoom.us/j/97107232988?pwd=bHBJY3o5M2toYIFSZWpwbmtLaStkQT09
Roll Call :
Meeting Minutes
Town Board
Town Justice
Town Planner
Town Code Enforcement Officer
Town Bookkeeper
Recording Secretary
Not Present: Jim Holahan (Town Board)
Joel Gagnon, Supervisor
Leslie Connors
Sarah Schnabel
Matt Ulinski
Theresa Klinger (Zoom); Gary Huddle
David West
Steve Cortright (Zoom)
Laura Shawley
Cindy Katz, Deputy Clerk
AGENDA
1. Call to Order at 7:03pm by Supervisor Gagnon
2. Additions/Deletions to Agenda
2.1. Community Choice Aggregation Enabling Law
2.2. Appoint Town Planner Administrator of YouTube Channel
2.3. Budget transfer to fund Town Clerk contractual line
2.4. Workplace violence report will be at the next meeting
2.5. Community Choice Aggregation Enabling Law Review
3. Privilege of the Floor
3.1. Linda Wyatt, of 20 West Miller Road for 30 years, an EMT and member of Danby
Fire Department appealed to the Board regarding the very serious flooding her
home has and continues to experience. Over the last 4 days, it has flooded twice
with 18 inches in the downstairs (first floor, NOT a basement)
- Nothing that can be done on her property to change this and she requests
the town do whatever they can to fix it. She feels she is being forced to move & that
her property value is nothing.
-Unknown why this is happening, but possible causes she cites are climate
changes, changes on Dobson property
- Wyatt would like to be included in upcoming meetings with DEC and
Tompkins County Solar and Water
3.1.1. David West, Town Planner just scheduled that meeting and would take
Linda's contact info so she can join and walk the land
3.1.2. Gagnon added that the problem is not just on West Miller, but on
Gunderman and Linda agreed that others are having problems. Both agreed
that the problem is a large one that needs to be considered fully from all angles
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3.1.3. Steve Cortright reported he visited the house following flooding and agrees
this is a definite problem that needs to be addressed
3.2. Gary Huddle, Town Justice: Will the town revisit the issue of mask wearing? He
thought we were going to follow the rules of the county but he believes we are not
following this.
3.2.1 Connors responded we may be revisiting every month esp now as we are still
watching what will happen with the Delta Variance.
3.2.2. Schnabel suggested it be a standing agenda item each month
4. Correspondence —none
5. Presentations- none
6. Reports
7. Consent Agenda
7.1. Analysis revealed the clerk was over again
Resolution 119 of 2021 To Make a Budget Transfer to Fund the Town Clerk Contractual
Line
RESOLVED, the Town Board approves the amount of $100.00 to be transferred from the
A9040.800, Workers Compensation account to the A1410.400 Town Clerk Contractual
account
Moved By: Schnabel Seconded By: Connors
Vote:
Councilperson Aye No Absent
Connors x
Holahan x
Schnabel x
Ulinski x
Gagnon x
Resolution 119 approved on July 212021
7.2. Warrants
7.2.1. General Fund No 13 Vouchers 227-251 for $22,292.22
7.2.2. Highway Fund No 13 Vouchers 164-177 for $22,533.70
7.2.3. Water District Fund No 13 Vouchers 22-24 for 5549.50
Resolution 120 of 2021 To Approve Consent Agenda
Moved By: Schnabel Seconded By: Conners
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Discussion: Laura Shawley pointed out a change. The GF amount is actually $22,292.22.
Other figures are the same. Question from Ulinski on budget to Shawley : There was a
previous discrepancy on some of the credit card accounts he thought? Shawley clarified that
was included and is in the process of being reviewed with the clerk.
Vote:
Councilperson Aye No Absent
Connors x
Holahan x
Schnabel x
Ulinski x
Gagnon x
Resolution 120 approved on July 212021
8. Old Business
8.1. Highway Audit - Energy Efficiency grant
8.1.1 Councilperson Ulinski provided an update on a $100,000 grant received in
2018 from the Clean Energy Communities Program to upgrade the Highway
Building. After some delays for various reasons, significant progress made.
Identified for upgrade included: doors, insulation, heat pumps, lighting, water
heating and the waste water disposal issue.
8.1.2. Initial plan for upgrades was modified when it was understood that it,
including wastewater system improvements, would take 175 years for payback
savings. Therefore, plans were changed for an upgrade with a more reasonable
payback timeline.
8.1.3. In 2019, Tatem did a targeted energy audit which provided various
recommendations including lighting retrofits, air ceiling, insulated door
replacement, upgrade to a heat pump, upgrade water heating, and later adding
insulation in office and attic.
8.1.4. Choose to work with Halco, which is local. They offered a competitive bid to
do everything together, which many did not. Been working for over a year with
Halco and just finished all the upgrades recommended by Tatem.
8.1.5 Left is the septic separation work. Of the money from NYSERDA, to date have
spent $97,000 dollars. Still getting bids for washbid and Ulinski estimates the
town will need to spend—$18,000 to finish the grant. This was was anticipated.
8.1.6. Shawley clarified it was not a matching grant but the town has had to pay
some extra costs. Of the $74,000 cost from Halco, we received about $24,000
from the grant, leaving the town with about $50,000. Might be some room for
switching categories and moving money around. Ulinkski expected some
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flexibility for that and anticipates they may come back to the Town Board next
month for the needed money to finish this as well as a waste -water work.
8.1.7. Shawley mentioned that all three current bids assure us they can have the
work complete in August, as there is a September 1 deadline.
8.2. Solar Billing Agreement With Danby Fire District
8.2.1. Laura Shawley provided an overview of this Memorandum of Understanding
(MOU) with the Fire Department. The solar array is shared between the Town of
Danby and the Fire Department. Over the years, there has been some snags and
confusion regarding the easiest process for billing the FD for their portion of
energy used. This MOU will formalize what has been agreed upon and make
things simpler for everyone.
8.2.2. Gagnon noted that the date must be updated to reflect today.
8.2.3. Gagnon wondered if the assumption is that the Fire Bills will never be more
than the aggregate. Shawley explained this process cuts down admin work so
we only have to do it four times a year instead of twelve .
8.2.4. Schnabel and Gagnon asked an additional clarifying questions which Shawley
addressed.
Resolution 121 of 2021 To Authorize Signing of MOU on Solar Billing Agreement with
the Danby Fire Department
Additional discussion: Council repeated that the effective date on the MOU needed to
be changed to July 21 2021. Not sure if an amendment is needed.
Moved By: Schnabel Seconded By: Conners
Vote:
Councilperson Aye No Absent
Connors x
Holahan x
Schnabel x
Ulinski x
Gagnon x
Resolution 121 approved on July 212021
8.3 Community Choice Aggregation Enabling Law
8.3.1. Board did not feel comfortable discussing as some had not yet read the
document, but were ready to schedule a Public Hearing for it.
Resolution 122 of 2021 To Schedule a Public Hearing on the Community Choice
Aggregation Enabling Law on the first meeting of next month (August 9) at 7pm
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Moved By: Schnabel Seconded By: Conners
Vote:
Councilperson Aye No Absent
Connors x
Holahan x
Schnabel x
Ulinski x
Gagnon x
Resolution 122 approved on July 212021
8.4 Resolution 123 of 2021 To appoint David West the administrator of the Town of
Danby's Youtube channel.
Discussion clarified that West will administer the account from a work email and not
his private email account, only he will be able to post videos, and that the
commenting section is turned off for now.
Moved By: Gagnon Seconded By: Schnabel
Vote:
Councilperson Aye No Absent
Connors x
Holahan x
Schnabel x
Ulinski x
Gagnon x
Resolution 123 approved on July 212021
9. New Business
9.1. Review of Draft Logging Regulation Proposal from CAC
9.1.1. Gagnon reported that because Highway had not yet reviewed the document;
he did not think they were ready to ratify the document yet but it would still be
helpful to get a general sense if the proposal was in the ballpark of what we are
looking for.
9.1.2. Schnabel asked for reference to what 4,000 board feet represents. Ulinski
suggested that Bruce could give a sense and it was clarified that 4,000 board
feet would include about an acre or less.
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9.1.3. Gagnon explained the goal is to integrate new needs with the current law
while ensuring the burden on small-scale harvesting of firewood or timber is not
high
9.1.4. Schnabel mentioned the liability insurance was very low at $250,000
9.1.5. Ulinski reiterated the desire to not impinge on the right to make money off
private land through logging, as that supports keeping the town rural. He
expressed a desire to hear Bruce's thoughts as well as other professionals (DEC
or Soil and Water). Previously there was a roundtable discussion that this could
go back to. Following that, should run past Guy. Ulinski said Angel Winkle
helped navigate in the past and she was great.
9.1.6. Shawley : Highway Department would like to have the loggers meet with the
Highway Department as a part of the formal permitting process. These
meetings/check-ins have happened in the past, the loggers have been very
amendable to it. Highway would like to meet with the committee to discuss
incorporating that.
removed from the agenda by Joel because we were not ready yet
9.3. Briefing and Discussion of Possible Uses of American Rescue Plan (ARP) Money
9.3.1. Shawley and Gagnon have been researching. Water/sewer and broadband
are the only two categories of funding that are not pure reimbursements from
COVID related expenses. All other uses need to be directly linked to an
occurring COVID related expense.
9.3.2. Shawley attended a webinar recently and shared what she learned. Part of
how how funding eligibility will be determined is based on if an expense can be
linked to the need to the category of water or sewer. For example: software and
billing software upgrades would be covered because that falls under the
category of water infrastructure.
9.3.2.1. If roadwork or equipment purchases (or other things) can be linked to
water or water quality or even stormwater, it can be covered.
9.3.2.2. Some counties/ vendors are linking revenue loss to the upset in their
equipment replacement plans
9.3.2.3. She added there is $370,000 and that municipalities can join together
and pool their money.
9.3.2.4. There is also potential for Fire Districts to utilize the funds through
various configurations.
9.3.3. Gagnon was on a call with supervisors and spoke of potential to use the
funds. Specifically Caroline and Newfield are interested in possible Broadband
collaboration.
9.3.3.1. Directing the funds to stormwater efforts would be very beneficial
because then they can be used by highway.
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9.3.3.2. Funds can also be used to PLAN for things, does not necessarily have to
be actual work on the ground.
9.3.3.3. Shawley added that mitigating flooding at Gunderman remains a great
need. Maybe the funds can support a hydrology study that can then be
leveraged for additional grants to take care of the issue. Shawley confirmed
that the ARP funds can be used for studies if they can be linked to water,
sewer etc.
9.3.4. Gagnon clarified that we don't have to say right away how the money will be
used. We have 4 years to spend the money, but 2 years to tell them how we will
spend it.
9.3.5. Shawley to doublecheck if there is Sept 1 deadline for us or not? Might not
apply to small municipality.
9.3.6. Schnabel wondered if we would have to hire people to do the reporting.
Laura gave a few suggestions on what processes and strategies would help
make reporting as easy as possible.
9.3.7. Schnabel wondered if it makes more sense to use the money in a few
different ways, or if it's better to use a lot of it towards one bigger thing. Ulinski
expresed interest in seeing a lot of proposals, weighing pros and cons.
9.3.8. Schnabel : Major areas to focus on: Broadband, sewer, stormwater. Board
members wondered what the best way to meet the broadband needs of those
who are completely unserved, who are a priority.
9.3.9. How do we go about receiving proposals since 2 years isn't that much time?
Individuals can lead efforts in various areas, Zak can maybe do broadband,
Highway Department can lead their area.
9.3.10. Ulinski , Schnabel, and others agreed on importance of connecting all
residents to broadband.
9.4. Gagnon asked Town Planner David West to update on technology concerns that we
have run into during the newly started hybrid meetings.
9.4.1. West reported we have switched to an old clerk computer instead of the one
we used previously in the library which has serious issues. The two routers are
also very old and have issues. West thinks we need to run a cable through here
and to upgrade the router, but would need to go through serious walls. We will
also need to evaluate if this computer can support current needs. The
bandwidth is low, and it keeps saying that the wifi connection is unstable. He
clarified that the current computer being used as unused in the clerk's office
(Alex's, the previous clerk's, old computer) that still has some documents on it
that should be moved.
9.4.2. Ulinski : Will need to continue to evaluate if we need to spend money to
update the hybrid system or update what we currently have
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9.4.3. Gagnon pointed out that it'd be great if the legislator approved Zoom, which
worked really well. Schnabel injected it worked only well for people with
highspeed internet.
9.4.4. Schnabel wondered if we need to do both router upgrade AND run a cable
through the wall at the same time, or try one and see how it goes. Maybe try
router first. The router belongs to the library, do they have funds to upgrade the
router and will they agree to replace it? It will also benefit the public as it is the
public assess router.
9.4.5. Ted Crane spoke: "A couple of things that I just heard said are contrary to
facts. At previous meetings, not tonight, but at previous meetings and other
types, I've seen upward of 8 megabytes and up (down and up too). Since I can
run three simultaneous Zoom meetings at home on a 6 x2 xxx, there should be
no problem with the router. Routers are extremely fast, even an ancient one,
this one is about eight years old, the one i have at home is six years old. The
hardware is not the problem. If you were to ask me, I would suggest that what
you do is don't do a fancy cable installation, just run it right through the hall,
wind it up when you are not using it, have a cable to access point right here in
this room to extend the strong wifi signal to this room to what you believe is a
better router, if you want. I have a suspicion, nothing more than that, that the
line that the town pays for is probably more reliable and perhaps more capable
than this one, this one is free. Time Warner or whatever they are called today is
probably not paying as much attention to a free line as to one the town is
paying good money for, a business line, and so they do better work. And so you
could do a 3rd minimal solution: an access point under a thousands bucks I
think, cable, whatever it costs, and try it out. If that does not work, than you go
to expensive solutions.. But just getting a good wifi signal with a connection to
a good line would, I think, be a good start and very cheap. But looking long
term, and I hate to tell you this, but maybe you should talk to Clarity Connect.
For what you are paying for Time Warner, at least what you were six to eight
years ago when I looked into it, you could get a better than basic line from
Clarity and although the speeds are not as good as Time Warner claims, they're
reliable - except when they go down, which Time Warner does too. Except when
they go down, at least in my house, they say 'six down, two up" and I get five
point six and two. And I get that all the time [indiscernible.] Just my two cents."
9.4.6. Crane responded to Gagnon's question about what he thought the problem
was then, if the router was fine, by saying he believes the problem is related to
use during "prime -time" hours and cable access. There is less bandwidth
available at specific times during the day.
9.4.7. Gagnon suggested changing the router and seeing if that helped, and then
running a trial cable. He observed the system was running well tonight, much
better than previously.
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9.4.8. Bruce offered over 400 feet of cable that he has.
10. Discussion of Next Meeting Agenda
10.1. Workplace Violence
10.3. Draft Logging Regulation Policy
10.4. CCA Public Hearing
11. Adjourn at 8:30pm
Submitted by Cindy Katz
Deputy Clerk
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