HomeMy WebLinkAbout2010-04-21 Danby Planning Board
Meeting Minutes
April 21 , 2010
Members Present:
Anne Klingensmith
Ted Melchen
Robert Roe
Steve Selin
Naomi Strichartz
Members Absent:
Olivia Vent
Ray Van de Bogart
Others Present:
Pamela Goddard Town Clerk
Susan Beeners Code Enforcement Officer
Councilpersons Leslie Connors
Members of the Public:
Joel Gagnon,Jane Schantz, Cindy Ceracche,Jack Miller Jr.,
Charles Tilton,Pat Woodworth, Cathy Darrow,Frank Darrow
Designating a Chair for this meeting:
Robert Roe was nominated to chair the meeting by N Strichartz, seconded by Klingensmith; accepted
by general acclamation.
The meeting was called to order at 7:07pm
Approval of Minutes:
Resolution No. 10 of 2010-APPROVAL OF MINUTES,03/17/2010
Resolved,That the Planning Board of the Town of Danby approves the minutes for the 03/17/2010 meeting.
Moved by Strichartz, Second by Klingensmith. The motion passed.
In Favor: Klingensmith,Melchen, Roe, Selin, Strichartz
Town Board Report:
Leslie Connors reported on various actions taken during the April Town Board meetings. (This
information is also available in the Town Board minutes.)There was special interest regarding recently
adopted Stormwater Legislation and fee structures among members of the Planning Board.The PB also
expressed interest in projects underway in relation to NYSERDA Grants and developments regarding a
Conservation Advisory Council.
Update on BZA Hearings,58 Marsh Road:
Code Enforcement Officer, Sue Beeners, reported that hearings on the proposed Aromahead Institute
at 58 Marsh Road will be held at 7:30 and 8:15 on Thursday,April 29, 2010.As an appellant to the
determination of the CEO, it was suggested that the Planning Board appoint a representative to the
hearing.A packet of information was distributed to the PB for review by the person representing.
Strichartz reported that Vent was interested in attending the meeting,but hesitated to volunteer her as
representative in absentia. Klingensmith tentatively volunteered to represent the PB at this hearing.The
information packet was put in her hands. Strichartz and Roe both stated that they would also attend the
hearing.
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Member Items:
Naomi Strichartz reported that the Beautification Committee will do plantings around the"Welcome
to Danby" signs at each entrance to the Danby Hamlet on Route 96B over the following weekend.
Additional volunteers are welcome.Funds for these plantings are supplied by Cooperative Extension.
Roe announced that the Planning Board had been extended an open invitation to an awards ceremony
for NYSERDA grants taking place at Cornell.
Secretary Goddard announced the May"Neighbors Series"of Earth Day related events.A full
schedule is listed on the Town web site.
Discussion regarding Waldorf School at 279-303 Gunderman Road:
Proposed location of Ithaca Waldorf School at 279-303 Gunderman Road,Planned Development
Zone 10,Tax Parcel 9.-1-9.12,Matthew and Jeanne Engelhart, Owners; Ithaca Waldorf School,
Applicant. Such proposal would involve amendment of Local Law No. 1 of 1997,related to permitted
uses of Planned Development Zone 10, and approval of the general site plan. The PB reviewed the
Proposal and scheduled a Public Hearing Date to consider recommendation to Town Board.
Parents and educators explained the Waldorf philosophy of childhood development, "green"
education emphasizing respect for the natural world and community service. Information about the local
school can be found at [ithacawaldorf.org]. The presenters believe that Waldorf education and Danby
are a"good fit."There are currently 69 students, a small portion of which are bussed to the school. The
school has already been developing a master plan for a facility on Nelson Road. (A permit for a Waldorf
School at that location has already been granted.)The Ithaca Waldorf School is particularly interested in
the Engelhart barn as a potential school site which would not need new buildings.They are interested in
making this building a model for sustainable use.A representative stressed that they are not, "interested in
ramming a school in here.We want to enter into a collaboration with the Town where this is a benefit to
the community."
Planning Board members asked a variety of questions, including how the property would be used, any
changes to public utilities,traffic impacts at this location,the extent of the planned development zone,
potential adjunct businesses which may be housed in the facility, and impacts from potential growth of
student/teacher population. There were a number of questions about planned development zones and the
historic development of this property.A purchase contract was only recently negotiated, and so the permit
application is still incomplete. Supplemental materials will be submitted to the Code Enforcement Office,
including traffic pattern analysis and building review.An inquiry as to any endangered species is under
review.
Neighbors to the property expressed concern regarding the amount of water in the local water table. It
was stated that,historically the hillside between Gunderman, Comfort,Bruce Hill, and Jersey Hill Roads
(to the Newfield border)has had problems with insufficient water. There was a question regarding what
sorts of studies have been done to assess the water level in that area and how the Town deals with water
issues between land owners. CEO Sue Beeners reported on findings from hydrologists when this problem
has come up before, and stated that well influence is of most concern when wells are in the range of 300
feet apart.As the buildings in question are in the range of 500 feet from neighboring houses, in the
opinion of the hydrologists, it would be unlikely to have an impact.Neighbors on either side reported
from experience that, in this region,high water use at the Englehart property has had an effect on their
rate of home water flow. "On average"may be true in some cases,but not always in this local area.
As an adjacent neighbor, and having had prior bad experiences with activities at the property in
question, PB member Naomi Strichartz stated that she intended to recuse herself from the vote when this
issue is considered during a public hearing.
Other concerns included tax rates since schools are tax exempt, increased traffic along Gunderman
Road and the current speed limit of 55mph in that area, disruptions due to student activities, and concerns
about interactions between students and potentially dangerous wildlife—in particular, a growing bear
population. Tax rates are not specific to one area, and this will be true whether the school is on Nelson or
Gunderman Roads. Other neighbors cited the positive aspects of the school and the fact that it might
attract new families to Danby.
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The fact that there would potentially be two public hearings,before the Planning and Town Boards
for zoning review,was reassuring to those who spoke. There was a general discussion about how much
time was needed for the Waldorf School to gather appropriate information to present to the Planning
Board and the best timing for a public hearing.
Resolution No. 11 of 2010-PUBLIC HEARING,279-303 GUNDERMAN ROAD
Resolved,That the Planning Board of the Town of Danby sets a Public Hearing, to be held on May 19, 2010 at 7:00
pm,to consider a recommendation to the Town Board for a request for rezoning for the purposes of a Waldorf School
at 279-303 Gunderman Road.
Moved by Klingensmith, Second by Melchen. The motion passed.
In Favor: Klingensmith,Melchen,Roe, Selin, Strichartz
Discussion regarding 461 Troy Road Detached Dwelling:
Proposed Construction of a Second,Detached Dwelling at 461 Troy Road as living space above a
proposed new garage,requiring a Special Permit. John Webster and Amy Russ, Owners/Applicants. Tax
Parcel 4.-1-32.123. The PB reviewed the Proposal and Scheduled a Public Hearing.
There was a brief discussion regarding the placement and use of this proposed new building. Due to
the placement,in relation to set back from an adjacent property,this may need a set back variance through
the BZA. CEO Beeners reported that the neighbor is in agreement to a five foot set back rather than the
required ten foot set back.
Resolution No. 12 of 2010-PUBLIC HEARING,461 TROY ROAD
Resolved,That the Planning Board of the Town of Danby sets a Public Hearing regarding a set back variance
related to a detached building proposed for 461 Troy Road,subsequent to a Public Hearing on the Waldorf School on
May 19, 2010.
Moved by Klingensmith, Second by Strichartz. The motion passed.
In Favor: Klingensmith,Melchen, Roe, Selin, Strichartz
Recommendation regarding Planning Board Chair:
The Planning Board held a discussion about the position of Standing Chair for the Planning Board.
Roe expressed that he was not interested in being the Standing Chair at this point. Members of the
Planning Board agreed to each take more responsibility for informing themselves of current issues, setting
agendas, and running meetings in order to share the work. Klingensmith and Strichartz both offered to run
up to two or three meetings a year. It was agreed that Ray VandeBogart would be a good chair, if he was
in agreement. Melchen agreed to contact him about this possible appointment.
Resolution No. 13 of 2010-RECOMMENDATION FOR PLANNING BOARD CHAIR
Resolved,That the Planning Board of the Town of Danby recommends that the Town Board appoints Ray
VandeBogart as standing Chair of the Planning Board,contingent on VandeBogart agreeing to this appointment.
Moved by Strichartz, Second by Selin. The motion passed.
In Favor: Klingensmith,Melchen,Roe, Selin, Strichartz
Resolution No. 14 of 2010-BZA HEARING REPRESENTATIVE
Resolved,That the Planning Board of the Town of Danby appoints Ann Klingensmith,with Olivia Vent as a
contingent backup, as its official representative to the April 29 BZA public hearing regarding the determination of the
Code Enforcement Officer regarding the Aromahead Institute at 58 Marsh Road.
Moved by Strichartz, Second by Melchen. The motion passed.
In Favor: Melchen,Roe, Selin, Strichartz
Abstain: Klingensmith
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Additional discussion regarding Map Study for the Danby Hamlet:
There was some discussion regarding whether map study for possible zoning changes in the Danby
was useful and whether there was support from the Town Board for this effort. Klingensmith raised the
issue of councilman Klein questioning the viability of a Danby Hamlet. Councilwoman Connors pointed
out that this was just one view on the Board. CEO Beeners suggested that members of the PB take maps
and acetate overlays home for study.
Discussion regarding training with SEQRs from the DEC:
The map study question morphed into a discussion about annual required training for the Planning
Board. Roe volunteered to contact the region 7 DEC regarding training in reading long and short form
SEQRs.
Adjournment:
The Planning Board meeting was adjourned at 9:00pm.
Pamela S Goddard,Planning Board Secretary
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