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Minutes of Regular Meeting
April 9, 2018
Present:
Councilpersons: Leslie Connors, Ric Dietrich (Supervisor), Jim Holahan, Matt Ulinski
Not Present:
Councilperson: Jack Miller
Others Present:
Town Clerk Pamela Goddard
Planning CJ Randall
Bookkeeper Laura Shawley
Highway Jack Shawley
Public Ted Crane, Ronda Roaring, Pat Woodworth, Charles Tilton, Katharine Hunter,
Don Schaufler, Scott Davis, Nancy Medsker, Tom Seaney, Camille Doucet,
Sally Quick, Ted Melchen, Rick Dobson, Santo Oliver (the logger), Joe
Petricola, Robert Bartholf, and many more.
Regular Meeting Opened at 7:05pm
Statements/Information regarding Deputron Hollow Logging
Supervisor Dietrich opened the meeting with statements and information on the situation at Deputron
Hollow Road related to logging on private property.
A status report on road conditions, on behalf of the Highway Department, was made by Deputy
Supervisor Jack Shawley. The Highway Department has been aware of the activity since winter 2017.
They have been reviewing the situation weekly. Due to several factors, the situation became much worse
over the Easter weekend at the end of March. Highway shut the road at this point. Shawley reported that
the logger has been cooperative and responsive. Road repair has begun and water diversion measures are
working. Shawley noted that the road needs to dry up from this seasonal wet time. The Highway
Department will continue to monitor the road’s condition, evaluation problems and what progress is
made.
Information related to land use issues was provided by Planner CJ Randall. She referenced the
intersection of several local laws, including storm water protection and road use. Randall informed those
present that NYS does not have a logging notification system. Additionally, logging/timber harvesting is
commonly included, under agriculture, as an allowed use on private property. The DEC has been
contacted and has begun review of the conditions at the property. The DEC does not generally consider
timber harvest as a land use disturbance. The DEC is, however, reviewing any stream impacts which may
have resulted from the logging operation.
Supervisor Dietrich invited the public to express their concerns during Privilege of the Floor, with the
constraint that comments be kept under three minutes. He noted that there are changes and updates to
various regulatory Local Laws, particularly the Road Use Law, which are being considered and will be
drafted in the near future. H admitted that the destruction to the land is sad. The DEC has offered to
present information and workshops on best practices for forest management for land owners. Dietrich
informed the residents that the Town is considering hiring a drone for aerial photography of the area.
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Privilege of the Floor
Privilege of the Floor lasted over one hour, with several comments about the damage done to the road
and environment as a result of logging on a property on Deputron Hollow Road.
Katharine Hunter expressed concern, stating that she has hiked and “adored” that area for several
years and is disturbed by the damage. She also informed people of a classical music concert being
presented by the Community Council.
Don Schaufler expressed concerns about the methods used by the person or team doing logging on a
property on Deputron Hollow Road. From his experience in the timber business, he characterized logging
on steep slopes and at this time of year as “stupid.” He expressed concern that this activity puts the timber
industry in a negative light. He stated that, in his experience, the forest is resilient and will re-grow but
that it will take decades.
Rick Dobson stated that he was unhappy that the Danby Area News would not publish an article he
wrote. He was also unhappy with zoning changes which have been made over the past ten years. He was
unhappy with the “stop work” order on his “mountain.” He further stated his intention to develop his
property with housing units for the elderly.
Ted Melchen gave some background on the logging operation on Deputron Hollow Road. He reported
that he had given permission for his land (which is adjacent to the land actually being logged) to be used
as a staging area for the operation. Melchen stated that the logging developed into a bigger project than
originally anticipated. He had concerns about his property being a “mud hole,” and was concerned about
the erosion and potential damage in the rainy season. He hoped that it might be possible to “make
lemonade from this lemon.” Melchen welcomed creative input on how to do better in the future.
Santo Oliver, the logger in question, made a lengthy statement. He has been working on the St. John
and Melchen properties on Deputron Hollow Road. Oliver stated that the timber on these two properties
had been overgrown and needed management. He circulated photographs and gave a detailed description
of steps being taken to mitigate run-off, siltation, and damage to the road. He stated that he’s been
working with the town on problems with road erosion, including installing culvert pipe. He intends to re-
seed the logged properties. Water bars will be installed to divert water run off. Oliver answered various
questions from residents. Among other information, Oliver estimated that his work will be complete and
he will be out of the area in two to three weeks (depending on the weather). He stated that he has signed a
“Soil and Water Agreement” with the Town of Danby, which outlines remediation measures for area.
George Adams, asked whether the Town Clerk or anyone in the Town had been notified that logging
was taking place. Oliver stated that he had never had to do this in the past. The Town Clerk added that
while logging has happened in other areas and by other timber harvesters, in the eight years she’s been
Clerk no logging notifications have been submitted by any property owners or timber harvesters. While
the DEC website states this as a best practice, this has never actually taken place. Oliver confirmed that
this has not been part of the logging process in other towns either.
Tom Seaney asked for clarification as to whether the DEC supersedes the Town in land use related to
stream impacts. Dietrich confirmed that this is true. The Town has authority for the road, but the DEC
regulates land disturbances. Dietrich stated that the Town and DEC are looking at triggers for disturbance.
Connors noted that the DEC is concerned about classified streams and designated wetlands, and that the
DEC has visited the site and suggested best practices for remediation. She supported the need for further
protection of steep slopes.
Nancy Medsker expressed sadness for what has been lost on this property. She supported Schaufler’s
assertion that the forest will recover. Medsker announced a music event coming up at the “Old Danby
Market.”
Sally Quick, expressed concern about the damage of endangered plants and protected species in this
location. Supervisor Dietrich noted that protection of these on private property is not in the control of
state and local governments. She further expressed concern about the way that the bank has been undercut
along the road, with exposed tree roots.
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Ronda Roaring expressed concerns about the lack of town response to the sensitive nature of this
area. She sees this as a major problem in the town. She believes that the town should have protected the
area many years ago through being put in a Conservation Zone.
CJ Randall responded to questions about levels of land protection and the roles of the DEC and the
Town. There is an exemption for timber harvesting in the Clean Air and Water Act, even if the disturbance
results in “non-point run off results in discharge.” That the only control available to a municipality is
through zoning. Danby does not currently have such zoning in place. Barring and stream crossing which
may have been inappropriate, the DEC has minimal enforcement in this area. In other words, there is a
crack big enough for a location such as Deputron Hollow to fall through. Ulinski noted that the town does
have 50 acres of protected land, in a combination of town owned property and property with a
conservation easement. Randall clarified the difference between a Conservation Easement and a
Conservation Zone. An Easement may include agricultural activity including timber harvest. A
Conservation Zone can have very strong restrictions.
Scott Davis asked whether a well crafted zoning ordinance could be protective without being too
onerous? Randall confirmed that this is possible.
Camille Doucet expressed concern that the road damage will be a multi-year problem. She asked
whether the road needs to remain open or whether it can be abandoned? Can the seasonal road be closed?
She further asked who would bear the cost of on-going damage to the road. Dietrich responded that roads
have been abandoned in the town, but this is a long process. Doucet was concerned that this cost will fall
on the tax-payers. Dietrich noted that the repair of the road is being negotiated between the Highway
Department and the logger.
Jack Shawley responded on behalf of the Highway Department. This section of Deputron Hollow
Road was already on summer work schedule for the Highway Department. The Danby Road Use Law
does offer a process for the town to recover road damage costs due to truck damage. However, there is an
exemption for logging. In this case, the Highway Department has been in communication with the logger
and has verbal assurances that he will pay for repairs to the road related to this timber harvest activity.
There is a signed agreement that the road will be brought back to the satisfaction of the Highway
Superintendent. The Road Use Law will be reviewed to address these concerns.
Ted Crane had various questions about the Deputron Hollow situation, which were addressed. He
then announced an upcoming concert from DCC. Crane encouraged the Board to install electric vehicle
charging stations at the Town Hall and stated that he looked forward to hearing information from
“Electric Vehicle Tompkins.”
Electric Vehicle Tompkins - Presentation on EV Charging Stations
Victoria McGarril made a presentation on behalf of “Electric Vehicle Tompkins.” This is a community
initiative collaboration between Tompkins County, and the Town and City of Ithaca. The initiative is
supported by NYSERD as an effort to encourage residents of Tompkins County to adopt EV technology.
About 50 electric vehicle charging stations have been installed across the county. EV Tompkins is actively
working with municipalities to help with installation of EV charging stations and the creation of EV
friendly policies. McGarril brought written information to share with the Board.
McGarril informed the Board that installation of charging stations is easy to do. There are three
different levels of charging stations to choose from, at a wide range of price points. She provided
information on grants and funding to help off-set the cost and installation of charging stations. Dietrich
asked whether there are any time constraints for these grants and incentives? There are several programs.
The DEC has funds which will off-set 50% of the cost of units. These will be available until the funds run
out. Ulinski asked for information about the number of EV ownership by jurisdiction. McGarril said that
310 EV vehicles were registered in Tompkins County as of January 2018. This is the highest per capita in
NYS. That number is expected to double by 2020. EV Tompkins will be providing education related to
EV technology over the next year in an effort to increase the rate of EV ownership.
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Warrants
ABSTRACT #4 OF 2018:
GENERAL FUND
#129-177 for a total of $37,746.68
Moved by Ulinski, Second by Holahan. The motion passed.
In Favor: Connors, Holahan, Ulinski, Dietrich
HIGHWAY FUND
#60-84 for a total $41,120.74
Moved by Holahan, Second by Connors. The motion passed.
In Favor: Connors, Holahan, Ulinski, Dietrich
Approve Minutes
MOTION - APPROVE MINUTES
Moved, That the Town Board of the Town of Danby approves the minutes of March 12, 2018.
Moved by Ulinski, Second by Connors. The motion passed.
In Favor: Connors, Holahan, Ulinski, Dietrich
There was a requested addition, from Connors. One sentence in discussion of Townline Road on page
5. (Insert “Carl Seamon stated that he would have a conversation with the Newfield Highway Department
regarding maintenance on TownLine Road.”) Clerk Goddard agreed to this addition.
MOTION - APPROVE MINUTES
Moved, That the Town Board of the Town of Danby approves the minutes of March 19, 2018, as amended.
Moved by Holahan, Second by Ulinski. The motion passed.
In Favor: Connors, Holahan, Ulinski, Dietrich
Declare Lead Agency - Minor Subdivision and Special Permit, 129 Hornbrook Road
Planner Randall reported on a recommendation from the Planning Board regarding a request for re-
zoning, which must be considered by the Town Board. The request also includes a minor subdivision and
special permit. Those actions will be considered by the Planning Board. Randall explained that the
combination of all three actions under one lead agency is to avoid fragmentation of environmental review.
The Town Board would be accepting Lead Agency of Environmental Review with the Planning Board as
an involved agency.
RESOLUTION NO. 39 OF 2018 - DECLARATION OF LEAD AGENCY, REZONING, MINOR SUBDIVISION, AND SPECIAL
PERMIT, 129 HORNBROOK ROAD, TAX PARCEL NO. 10.-1-82.2
Whereas an Application has submitted for proposed rezoning of 2.237 acres of the total 108.89-acre tax parcel
10.-1-82.2 to zone Commercial “C,” located at 129 Hornbrook Road, from the current zoning as Low Density
Residential, by Petricola-Bartholf Partnership, Owner, Robert Bartholf, Applicant; and
Whereas this is a rezoning action under Section 800 of the Zoning Ordinance of the Town of Danby, for which the
completed application was received January 17, 2018; and
Whereas an Application has been submitted for concurrent review and approval by the Town of Danby Planning
Board for a Minor Subdivision of Town of Danby Tax Parcel No. 10.-1-82.2, by Petricola-Bartholf Partnership, Owner,
Robert Bartholf, Applicant; and
Whereas the Applicant proposes to subdivide the existing 108.89-acre property into two parcels: Parcel A, measuring
2.237 acres with existing 8,800 sq. ft. warehouse; and Parcel B, measuring 106.653 acres and formerly operated as
vehicle dismantler Auto-salvage of Ithaca, Inc.; and
Whereas the Applicant is additionally requesting a Special Permit to utilize the existing 8,800 sq. ft. building as a
Warehouse; and
Whereas the Applicant is proposing adaptive reuse of the existing 8,800 sq. ft. warehouse and no new construction
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is required to facilitate private capital investment required to renovate and reuse the existing building within this area,
which is in proximity to the Central Hamlet; and
Whereas 6 NYCRR Part 617 of the State Environmental Quality Review Act (SEQRA) requires that a Lead Agency
be established for conducting environmental review of projects in accordance with local and state environmental law;
and the Lead Agency shall be that local agency which has primary responsibility for approving and funding or
carrying out the action; and
Whereas this is a Type I Action under the Town of Danby Environmental Review of Actions and an Unlisted Action
under the State Environmental Quality Review Act and is subject to environmental review; and
Now Therefore, be it
Resolved that the Town of Danby Town Board does hereby declare itself Lead Agency for the environmental review
for the action of Rezoning, Minor Subdivision, and Special Permit approval for Town of Danby Tax Parcel No.
10.-1-82.2 for Petricola-Bartholf Partnership, Owner, Robert Bartholf, Applicant.
Moved by Connors, Second by Holahan. The motion passed.
In Favor: Connors, Holahan, Ulinski, Dietrich
Authorization for Conservation Advisory Council to Spend Money
Ulinski brought two short resolutions on behalf of the Conservation Advisory Council. Ulinski
explained the need to spend a small amount of money for office supplies and printing.
RESOLUTION NO. 40 OF 2018 - AUTHORIZATION FOR DANBY CONSERVATION ADVISORY COUNCIL TO SPEND MONEY
Resolved, That the Town Board of the Town of Danby authorizes the Town of Danby Conservation Advisory Council
to spend money related to its functions for printing, office supplies, etc. The amount of purchasing not to exceed $500
in the year 2018. Any additional or special circumstances will require further approval from the Town Board.
Moved by Ulinski, Second by Dietrich. The motion passed.
In Favor: Connors, Holahan, Ulinski, Dietrich
Authorization for Conservation Advisory Council to Explore a Land Gift
There was a short discussion regarding a potential conservation easement which may result in an
acquisition of land to the town through an living estate gift. Ulinski provided information and context. If
this progresses and there is an agreement, the property owner would live on their land for their life-time
and that property would revert to the Town at the time of their death and there would be a perpetual
easement on the property.
Ulinski explained that this is in the exploratory stages. The proposal and agreement would need
attorney review and would further come to the Town Board for authorization and acceptance. This
resolution is permission to explore, prior to negotiation.
RESOLUTION NO. 41 OF 2018 - AUTHORIZATION FOR DANBY CONSERVATION ADVISORY COUNCIL TO EXPLORE A
LAND GIFT
Resolved, That the Town Board of the Town of Danby authorizes the Town of Danby Conservation Advisory Council
to engage in negotiations for a proposed conservation easement and gift of property with reserved life estate to the
Town of Danby. The CAC will examine the needed contracts and terms for such a gift, including discussions with the
Town Attorney, the Landowner and the CAC. The CAC believes this is an additional way for the Town to preserve
land and this negotiation would provide a template for further land gifts – and clarify the benefits and risks for the
Town.
Moved by Holahan, Second by Dietrich. The motion passed.
In Favor: Connors, Holahan, Ulinski, Dietrich
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Planning Report
A Planning report was made by CJ Randall. She attended two conferences in the past month. Each of
these conferences provided information which will be useful during her audit of Danby zoning, currently
underway. This information will also be useful for applications related to water/waste-water infrastructure
grants.
The CAC has been reviewing draft maps for the Natural Resources Inventory.
The BZA heard a matter in March - continuation of a variance request hearing first held in November,
2017. Subdivision of property on Curtis Road, with no road frontage on a publicly maintained road. This
was approved with the condition that no permanent structure can be built at this location.
The Town was able to meet a March 29 grant execution deadline for the Brown Road project. The
Town has not heard back on this project yet.
Code/Planning is reviewing a streamlined Building Permit system in Laserfiche. Randall and Hansen
will have training with Tompkins County Deputy Clerk Alana Congdon in the next month. This may
allow property owners to apply for a building permit on-line. It is hoped that the system will allow both
Code and Planning to review all required zoning components. There is a plan to tie this system into the
Tompkins County Dept. of Health, so that they can review well, waste-water, and related permits.
Randall will attend an area-wide April 18 FEMA flood risk review. This is part of a major flood
review in the area, particularly in the City of Ithaca and Cayuga Lake basin.
Randall and Dietrich will be attending the Cayuga Lake Watershed summit, to be held in Seneca Falls
this spring on April 19. Randall will give a presentation on the projects underway in Danby.
Applicants have been interviewed for the Planning Board/BZA secretary and a candidate will be
chosen soon. The previous secretary, Kelly Cecala, will cover the April PB meeting.
Three different Bridge NY grant applications are in the works: Durfee Hill Road, West Jersey Hill
Road, and Gunderman Road. TG Miller Engineering is assisting with these applications. The West Jersey
Hill Road has the most traffic, and is likely to be funded.
Connors asked for a review of the next steps in the Petricola-Bartholf Hornbrook Road property re-
zoning project. Randall out-lined the aspects of the project. The Planning Board will continue review of
the project and will develop language for a proposed zoning amendment. This action is subject to County
Planning Review. If the Town Board is agreeable, the property could be re-zoned this Spring/Summer.
There will need to be the full Public Hearing procedure for a zoning amendment. Clerk Goddard noted
that the timing would necessitate this taking place at either the second meeting in May or the first meeting
in June. The project would then go back to the Planning Board for consideration of the minor subdivision.
Ulinski thanked Randall for her work on the Danby Natural Resources Inventory. He said that this
will be a very useful tool for planning in the future.
There was further discussion and information from EV Connects regarding funding available through
NYSERDA for electric vehicle charging stations. CJ reported an estimate of $5,260 for a set of three,
which includes the discounts through NYSERDA with four years of managed service. Full price would be
closer to $14,250. $2,000+ of the estimated price is the cost of an extended four warranty. Installation
would be covered through EV Tompkins. There was further discussion of this proposal. Dietrich noted
that installation at the Community Park bus stop would need to include running electric to the site. Crane
urged the Town to follow through with this as a service to the community, stating that the cost to the Town
is “negligible.” Dietrich encouraged CJ to move forward with this. Ulinski suggested that the Town
explore installing a charging station at the Fire Station. He further commented that this was an investment
for small number of drivers of electric cars (at this time), but agreed that the “price is right.”
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Short Reports - Justices, Water District, Town Clerk
The March Town Clerk’s Report; $1,488 was received in the month of January for one planning fee,
53 dog licenses, two building permit, and one impoundment fee. $1,421 was disbursed to the Town
Supervisor and $67 to the NYS Animal Population Control Program. !
Copies of the Justices’ monthly reports were circulated to the TB. !!!!!!
Adjournment
The meeting adjourned at 9:00 pm. !!!!!!!!!
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Pamela Goddard, Town Clerk
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