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HomeMy WebLinkAbout2010-07-28 Town of Danby
Board of Zoning Appeals
Oasis Hearing Minutes
July 28, 2010
Members Present:
Al Becker
Gary Bortz
Christine Decker
Nancy Medsker
Alan Wagner
Others Present:
Susan Beeners Code Enforcement Officer
Members of the Public:
Rebecca Reeves,Joel Gagnon,Pam Kaminsky, James Reagan,Barry Craddock,Linda Bryan,Nicky
Greene,Heidi Bennett,Randy Ingell
The Kaminsky/Oasis Public Hearing was reconvened at 7:07pm
S. Beeners read the following public notice:
PUBLIC HEARING to consider a Request for variance of Section 701-Limitation of Uses within 200
feet of a Residence Zone; and Section 1001-Nonconforming Uses of Land, of the Town of Danby Zoning
Ordinance, in order to hold an event with amplified music in the Courtyard at Oasis Dance Club, Bar,
and Restaurant on September 8, 2010 from 5:00 p.m. to 8:00 p.m. The property is located at 1230 Danby
Road, Tax Parcel 2.-1-8.1. Pamela Kaminsky, Owner/Applicant.
Al Wagner asked Oasis owner Pam Kaminsky to quickly represent the variance request and steps
taken to address neighbor complaints.
Kaminsky said that since the past hearings she has taken steps to address neighbor concerns.Action
has been taken in three areas. She has applied crushed concrete and magnesium/calcium chloride to the
driveway to decrease dust.The parking lot light has been adjusted to point to the back door. Subsequent
to more discussion with Ingell, she will make further adjustment including a shield on the light.
Kaminsky has asked her staff to increase monitoring of the parking lot.
Beeners then read two letters, from Heidi Bennett and Nick Greene,that had been received for the
July 20 hearing.These letters are in opposition to the requested variance. In addition,Beeners received a
phone call from an Oasis patron(not a Danby resident)who is in favor of the one-time variance. Rich
Anderson believes that the discussion should focus on the specific event and noted that the new owners
are very supportive of community events.
Alan Wagner opened the hearing to public comment and stressed that comments should be limited to
new information. There were verbal responses from neighbors Heidi Bennett and her roommate Nick
Greene. Bennett stressed that indoor music has been such an annoyance that outdoor music is out of the
question for her. If there must be outdoor events,Bennett requested a sound barrier so that she would not
have to listen to the music. Greene agreed that indoor music levels are so loud that it already sounds like
outdoor music.
Barry Craddock commented about the history of parking lot dust control at this business. The
problem has existed since the 1990s when a gravel driveway was installed. Prior to 1990,the car park
was blacktop.At that time,the driveway entrance from Route 96B was changed over to Comfort Road.
Over the years,the car park size has increased and the gravel driveway is no longer suitable for the
amount of traffic going to the Club. Craddock recommends oil and stone be applied in the parking lot.
Craddock also recommended that air conditioning be installed, so doors and windows could be
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closed to control noise leakage. Once these measures are taken, Craddock would agree with a variance for
the Oasis Club to hold even two or three outside events a year.Until these measures are taken, Craddock
doesn't think there should be any variance.
Linda Bryan complained that during the past weekend she could easily hear indoor music from her
patio,which is a distance away from the Club. She affirmed that when things are brought to compliance
with the neighbors she would be willing to see occasional outside events,but not until then.
Randy Inge11 voiced his ongoing concern about dust. He expressed surprise that Kaminsky has not
read the zoning ordinance related to this property. He sees only minimal efforts being made to address
neighbor concerns,but stated that concerns about dust, lights, and noise remain.
He stated that, in discussions with Kaminsky,he agreed that if she took care of the dust and light
problems he would agree to a one time variance for outside music.At this time,he does not think that she
has complied. Ingell agrees with Craddock that there should be a history of compliance before any favors
are granted. Ingell cited a contrasting relationship with the Legion and neighbors in which complaints
were addressed in a satisfactory manner.
James Reagan said that he is hesitant to go ahead with outside events at this time. The music has been
extremely loud. He stated that he would like to see air conditioning installed at the Club so that the place
could be closed up in the summertime.With that adjustment, a few, infrequent events would not be a
problem for him.
Pam Kaminsky thanked Randy for his comments. She says that she is trying hard to address these
concerns. Kaminsky apologized to Bennett for any phone call when she was hung up on. She repeated
that she has not had police officers on her premises since she owned the Club in 2009. She talked with an
officer at the State Police, and there have been no complaints since May 2009.
Code Enforcement Officer Beeners reported that zoning related to the property was provided to
Kaminsky at the time of sale.
Public Hearing Closed at 7:32
BZA Discussion:
Nancy Medkser noted that some progress seemed to have been made. She asked some questions of
the neighbors regarding whether the loudness was a seasonal problem. Bennett responded that while it
was mostly in the summertime,there were also problems in winter—particularly with low end bass
thumping. Kaminsky agreed that air conditioning would be best for staff,patrons, and neighbors but
stated that she could not afford$20,000 for the installation at this time. Bennett requested that the bass be
turned down, especially on some types of music.
Al Becker asked what type of music was planned for this event in question. Kaminsky replied that she
is looking at a jazz quartet; e.g.,music that will not interfere with networking conversation for the
Chamber of Commerce. Craddock stated that the issue is not this event,but the constant nuisance.
Al Wagner stated his opinion that neighborhood impact is one of the things the BZA must consider.
The track record expressed by the neighbors is pertinent. Becker noted that the appeal is for a specific
event. Becker pointed out that neighbor impact is after 8pm,which is not part of this appeal, and noted
that Kaminsky is trying to address concerns. Ingell concurred with this.
Bortz asked the neighbors whether things have improved with the new owner. They replied that noise
levels have gotten worse since there is more live music being presented at the Club. Some demands had
been taken care of in the past week. Bortz noted that this new owner seems inclined to reach out and that
she will need a variance for every request for outside events. If this variance is granted, it does not set a
precedence. Each variance request is dealt with as a separate issue.
Kaminsky noted that some of her neighbors have no objection to Oasis activities, and reminded the
BZA of the petition she had circulated.
Medsker asked Kaminsky about her business plan as regards relationships with the neighbors.
Kaminsky replied that she had planned on installing air conditioning but was not able to afford this at the
same time as other improvements. Kaminsky also said that she intends to talk with DJs and sound techs
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about turning the bass down to a tolerable level on weekends and lowering levels at other hours.
Wagner asked whether the BZA has the latitude to grant the variance with certain conditions. Beeners
said,yes the BZA has that ability. Beeners also stated that dust control and light adjustment were part of
the prior Town Board decision in 2005, and these conditions have not been fully met. The noise is the
overriding thing,but indoor noise had not previously been raised as a problem.The current complaints are
a baseline against which future issues will be measured.
Following further discussion of possible conditions being attached to granting a variance,Becker
pointed out that the PBo cannot dictate policy to expend someone else's money, such as the cost of
$20,000 for air conditioning installation.
Decker expressed her opinion that the event in question is as benign as may be. If the concern is
neighborhood issues then there are other needs.Noise issues can be subjective.
Beeners described various ways the BZA could make provisions for monitoring progress and
mitigating neighbor concerns, such as sound adjustment on live music. The BZA could require subsequent
meetings or a report of progress in two or three months.There was a general discussion regarding
segregating the general issues from the specific request. The track record of how the Oasis Club relates to
its neighbors,particularly in regards sound levels and patron behaviors outside the bar,will have an
impact on any future variance request. Complaints or reports monitoring progress on these issues should
be sent to the Code Enforcement Office.
Motion to Grant Variance
The Board of Zoning Appeals of the Town of Danby grants the variance as requested.
Moved by Gary Bortz, second by Allen Becker,the motion passed
Allen Becker AYE
Gary Bortz AYE
Christine Decker AYE
Nancy Medsker AYE
Alan Wagner NAY
The BZA meeting was adjourned at 8:40 pm.
Pamela S Goddard, BZA Secretary
These minutes compiled from S. Beeners'notes and the sound recording of the meeting.
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