HomeMy WebLinkAbout2014-01-20D a n b y T o w n B o a r d
M i n u t e s o f P u b l i c H e a r i n g a n d M e e t i n g
J a n u a r y 2 0 , 2 0 1 4
Present:
Supervisor: Ric Dietrich
Councilpersons: Rebecca Brenner, Leslie Connors, Jim Holahan
Others Present:
Town Clerk Pamela Goddard
Code Officer Sue Beeners
Highway Dept. Carl Seamon, Jack Shawley Jr.
Town Attorney Guy Krogh
Public Ted Crane, Ronda Roaring, Jack Miller, Ted Jones, Deanne DeMark, Erick
Palmer, Ted Melchen, Dan Klein, Kathleen Norkus, Gergory Norkus, Clair
Borch, Anthony Augustine, Butch Miller, Kelly Morris, Nancy Medsker,
Tom Seaney, Anne Klingensmith, and several others, up to 21 people.
The Town Board held interviews for the Town Board Vacancy from 5:45-7:00
Jack Miller Jr., Ted Jones, and Ted Crane were interviewed for the vacant position on the Danby
Town Board. Each applicant was given the opportunity to discuss their interest in and experience re-
lated to the position. Town Board members asked similar questions of each applicant.
The Danby Town Board Public Hearing was opened at 7:05pm
PUBLIC HEARING to Consider a Petition requesting the discontinuance of a 620+/- portion of Marsh Road
as a minimum maintenance/seasonal road, and its change to a year-round road. Erick C. Palmer, petitioner.
Public Hearing
Four pieces of written correspondence were received and read into the record: Camille Duecet, 30
Marsh Road, wrote in opposition to the proposal on the grounds that the land in this area of Marsh
Road should be protected as wild land and protected from building. She also noted that the existing
year round road is in poor repair. She was also concerned about potential financial burden on the
Town.
Katherine Hunter wrote with concerns about the potential development of this area should the
year round section of Marsh Road be extended. She was also concerned financial burden to the Town.
Henrike Burton, 38 Marsh Road, wrote in opposition to the proposal and expressed concerns that
the change in road status would change the character of the area and impact the natural environment.
She strongly felt that this area should be protected.
Diane Olden, 56 Durfee Hill Road, wrote in opposition to the proposal with concerns about costs
to the town, increased traffic, and that this “paves the way” for development in Deputron Hollow.
People heard: Ted Melchen spoke in favor of the request, stating that he was exploring putting his
42 acres of land into a conservation easement.
Greg Norkus, 108 Marsh Road, expressed several concerns about the environmental impacts of
widening and improving the road. His property is adjacent to the section of road in question. He
would prefer to not have the road extension. More access might mean more illegal dumping and tres-
pass. He is concern about the loss of sugar maples along that section of road. Wetlands anchor the
ends of the section of road in question.
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Dan Klein, 56 Durfee Hill Road, expressed several concerns about the cost of upgrading the road.
He was concerned that this would open up more building lots which would require even additional
improvements. He was concerned about precedent and future liability.
Butch Miller, East Miller Road, spoke in favor of the request.
Tony Augustine spoke in favor of the request. In his view, the cost of improving the road would
be covered by an increased tax base from new houses.
Ronda Roaring spoke in opposition to the request. She disagreed with the assertion that more
houses would balance costs to the Town. She promotes preservation of Deputron Hollow as important
habitat for wild life.
Melchen and Palmer spoke about intent to put land into a conservation easement. Palmer asserted
that he did not want more development along that section of Marsh Road. He stated that he is only
interested in building one house, that he did not want to see the road widened. Dietrich notes that this
is new information.
Code Officer Beeners responded to cost estimates for the design concept, as reviewed by fire/
rescue emergency response. There were two cost estimates: one with minimal impact with no ditch-
ing, additional stone, 10 foot width, and a turnaround near the pole barn driveway. Beeners noted that,
due to condition of the existing year round turnround, there are special considerations for emergency
vehicles. At this time, two vehicles can not pass on that section of road. This estimate, in the range of
$25,000-$30,000 includes all of the above. The second estimate, making this a two lane road, is more
in the range of $40,000. The trigger for upgrading from a single to two lane road is traffic which ex-
ceeds 49 trips per day average. In Beeners opinion, this was unlikely under current circumstances.
Anne Klingensmith spoke in opposition, stating her concern that higher density in this special
area not be enabled. She cautioned the Board that this needs careful deliberation of unintended conse-
quences. Klingensmith recommended that deed restrictions and limits should be written, legal terms.
Ted Crane, 605 West King Road, spoke his concerns about cost to the Town, but noted that there
are other options, such as Palmer creating access to a pole barn via a driveway from his existing prop-
erty. A compromise might be possible. A conservation easement might add to that compromise.
Tom Seaney, Marsh Road, expressed concerns about Town money being used for private benefit.
He expressed the view that the owner should pay for that improvement. The applicants responded that
they are not asking Town to pay. They were willing to share expense, but not $30,000. Palmer be-
lieves that the road already up to standard, and had heard from the Highway Superintendent that there
only needed to be some ditching work. There was discussion of how cost estimate was provided.
There was a suggestion from the floor that a vote on this request be tabled until further action,
including movement on a conservation easement and management plan for Deputron Hollow can be
put in place.
Nancy Medsker, Marsh Road, expressed confusion as to the details of the plan for this requested
improvement. She stated that Palmer had good intentions, that she had no problem with a pole barn
for horses, but had concerns about the impacts on the road from a potential new house lot. She was
concerned about adding roads to the Town’s maintenance, that Marsh Road in is poor condition and
that the existing section of year round road needs to be addressed.
Beeners attempted to clarify the local law regarding road delineation on this specific part of
Marsh Road, how many residences are served by the road, and standards related to traffic volume and
road width.
Dietrich asked for some comments from Town Attorney, Guy Krogh. He advised the Board that
they need to make a determination of use of public funds. The Board needs to determine whether
there is a public purpose to that expenditure. On the other hand, Towns exist to do what private prop-
erty owners can not. There is a need to balance these needs.
The Danby Town Board Public Hearing was closed at 7:55pm
The Town Supervisor called for a short recess, prior to opening the regular meeting.
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The Danby Town Board meeting was opened at 8:05pm
Executive Session
Ric Dietrich moved that the Town Board enter executive session to discuss the personnel matter
of appointing a Town Board member to the current vacancy. The Motion to Enter Executive Session
was seconded by Leslie Connors and was voted AYE unanimously.
The Town Board entered Executive Session at 8:10pm. Executive session was closed at 8:48pm.
Appoint Delegate to the Annual Association of Towns Meeting
There was brief discussion regarding appointment of a voting representative to the 2014 annual
Association of Towns meeting in New York City.
RESOLUTION NO. 22 OF 2013 - APPOINTMENT OF TOWN DELEGATE TO ASSOCIATION OF TOWNS MEETING
Resolved, That the Town Board of the Town of Danby appoints Leslie Connors as its voting representative to the
annual meeting of the New York State Association of Towns.
Moved by Brenner, Second by Holahan. The motion passed.
In Favor: Brenner, Connors, Holahan, Dietrich
Appoint to Town Board Vacancy
RESOLUTION NO. 23 OF 2013 - APPOINTMENT OF TOWN BOARD VACANCY
Resolved, That the Town Board of the Town of Danby appoints Jack Miller Jr. to fill a current vacancy on the
Danby Town Board for the year 2014.
Moved by Holahan, Second by Connors. The motion passed.
In Favor: Brenner, Connors, Holahan, Dietrich
Appoint to Planning Board Chair
RESOLUTION NO. 24 OF 2013 - APPOINTMENT OF PLANNING BOARD CHAIR
Resolved, That the Town Board of the Town of Danby appoints Frank Kruppa to Chair of the Danby Planning
Board for the year 2014.
Moved by Connors, Second by Brenner. The motion passed.
In Favor: Brenner, Connors, Holahan, Dietrich
Set Town Board Meetings
There was further discussion of whether to alter the regular schedule of Town Board meetings
from second and third Mondays to second Monday and third Tuesdays. The Fire District meets on
Tuesdays, the Fire Department meets on Mondays. There was discussion as to whether third Tuesdays
would be a conflict with Court schedule. Tuesday evenings were problematic for Jack Miller.
RESOLUTION NO. 25 OF 2014 - TOWN BOARD MEETINGS
Resolved, That the Town Board of the Town of Danby regular monthly board meetings be scheduled at 7:00pm
on the second and third Monday of each month for the year 2014.
Moved by Connors, Second by Holahan. The motion passed.
In Favor: Brenner, Connors, Holahan, Dietrich
Set Public Hearing - Conservation Easement
There was a discussion regarding a scheduling a hearing for a proposed Deed of Conservation
Easement on 26 acres +/- of property at the intersection of West King and Sand Bank Roads. Dan
Klein gave an overview of the proposal, on behalf of the Conservation Advisory Council. Clarifica-
tion was given regarding the status of the draft Deed and review of the same by the Town Attorney on
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behalf of the Conservation Advisory Council. There was related discussion to the SEQR classification
related to this matter. All materials relevant to setting a public hearing were in order.
Brenner had questions about whether the Town would be in a position of liability through holding
Conservation Easements on property. Her concern was regarding financial liability in legal defense of
such easements far in the future. Klein argued that defense and security of an easement was strength-
ened by being held by a municipality, on the grounds that a municipality will also be in existence in
perpetuity. Brenner noted that, as a citizen, she is strongly in favor of conservation easements. Her
concern, as a Councilperson, is for the long term financial responsibility for these agreements. Been-
ers noted that the Town Attorney has added a strong indemnity clause to the proposed Deed. It is also
hoped that private donations will help support long term easement protection. An account has already
been established for this use.
Dietrich and Klein spoke in favor of Conservation Easements as a way to preserve land from de-
velopment and encourage preservation of open space through voluntary measures.
Holahan raised a question about the construction of agricultural related buildings, including prod-
uct marketing and sales buildings, as part of the permitted uses. He questioned whether a beverage
tasting room, such as a wine tasting room, would be allowed. Klein noted that structures which would
support agriculture and support the goals of the easement would most likely be allowed. Beeners
noted that such structures would fall under “customary uses” as defined in the current Zoning Ordi-
nance and all other regulations. Farm buildings exempt from the Ag and Markets law are extremely
limited.
Brenner had a question as to whether deeds of conservation easement would impact the tax rolls.
Currently, a deed of conservation easement does not affect assessment for property tax. Those whose
property is held in a conservation easement receive a credit on their state and federal income tax.
RESOLUTION NO. 26 OF 2014 - SET PUBLIC HEARING - CONSERVATION EASEMENT
Resolved, That the Town Board of the Town of Danby sets a public hearing to consider a Deed of Conservation
Easement on property tax parcel 1.-1-3.32 at the intersection of West King and Sand Bank Roads as described
in schedule A of the Conservation Easement package, for February 10 at 7:00pm.
Moved by Dietrich, Second by Connors. The motion passed.
In Favor: Brenner, Connors, Holahan, Dietrich
February Meetings
Reviewing the schedule for a Conservation Easement hearing raised the need to shift meetings in
February. Due to attendance at the Association of Towns meeting and the President’s Holiday week-
end, the Board would not have a quorum on February 17.
RESOLUTION NO. 27 OF 2014 - FEBRUARY TOWN BOARD MEETINGS
Resolved, That the Town Board of the Town of Danby will hold its 2014 February meetings on February 3 at
7:30 and February 10 at 7:00pm.
Moved by Connors, Second by Holahan. The motion passed.
In Favor: Brenner, Connors, Holahan, Dietrich
Alarm System
Beeners provided more information regarding a proposal for a new alarm system for the Town
Hall. The new system would include new panels and five “panic” buttons. Prevailing wage estimates
have been collected from Pleasant Valley Electric and Westfire, local companies. Additional
estimates/quotes are being gathered. Both systems come with a warranty.
Beeners asked the Board to move on authorization of expenditure, even though a final agreement
has not been reached, as the building is presently under served by the alarm system. The connection
with the monitoring system is not consistent. This problem has developed due to the system being
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upgraded by different firms over the 10 years since its initial installation. The devices are at the end of
their expected life time.
RESOLUTION NO. 28 OF 2014 - AUTHORIZATION TO EXPEND FUNDS - ALARM SYSTEM
Resolved, that the Town Board of Town of Danby authorizes the expenditure of up to $6,000, to be a transfer
from the Town Buildings Fund, for the purpose of replacing the town hall alarm system, including up to five “panic
buttons” for staff and court offices.
Moved by Brenner, Second by Connors. The motion passed.
In Favor: Brenner, Connors, Holahan, Dietrich
Marsh Road Consideration
There was a discussion regarding how to proceed with the Marsh Road expansion request. Topics
of consideration included whether granting this request would be in the greater public good particu-
larly in relation to new information regarding the potential for large amounts of land from Palmer and
Melchen being put into conservation easements. If the Town Board denies the request, the applicant
may not reapply for two years.
Dietrich suggested that any decision be tabled pending more details on new aspects of the Palmer
proposal. He reported that Palmer was urged to draft a revised proposal, gain neighbor support, and
bring the new information to the Board. The Board asked for specific information as to how many
building lots would be opened up if the road were improved. The Board also requires clarity from the
applicant regarding covering the cost of the potential improvements.
Beeners noted that the Melchen property lacks sufficient frontage for building lots and should not
be included in the equation of potential development. She also informed the Board that a lengthy pro-
cedure would be necessary, even if the Board agrees to approve the request. That procedure includes
drafting a long form SEQR review, a possible wet lands delineation, environmental review, further
road evaluation and a traffic study. There was also discussion regarding the option for the applicant to
construct a shared driveway, on his current property, to the proposed pole barn/second dwelling. This
would require a variance through the Board of Zoning Appeals.
The Board agreed to table this item until its February 3 meeting, with receipt of additional infor-
mation.
Interview Planning Board Candidates
The Town Board agreed to schedule interviews applicants to the current Planning Board vacancy
on January 27, from 5:45 to 6:45 prior to the Conservation Advisory Council meeting.
Adjournment
The Meeting was adjourned at 9:55pm.
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Pamela Goddard, Town Clerk
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