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Public Hearing - Angelheart
April 16 , 1997
TOWN OF DANBY
PLANNING BOARD MINUTES
PUBLIC HEARING - ANGELHEART
April 16, 1997
Angelheart Designs Proposal
PRESENT :
Chairperson Kenneth Horst
Planning Board Members : Gerald Catlin, Linda Hansen, Mary Lou Hardesty, Nancy Weitzel
AB S. ENT :
William Farrell (Excused)
Arch Dotson (Excused)
Others Present :
Carol Sczepanski - Secretary
Susan Beeners - Code Enforcement Officer
Matthew & Jeanne Engelhart - Applicants
Members of the Public : Howard Steiner, Stephanie Fetherbay ,
Naomi and Robert Strichartz, Cathy and Frank Darrow,
Patrick Kelly, Pat Woodworth, Charles H . Tilton, Bill Brodie, Joseph Cheng
New Board Member Welcomed :
Chairperson Kenneth Horst welcomed Linda Hansen to the Planning Board . Linda was appointed
to the Planning Board on Monday, April 14 , 1997 .
Public Hearing Declared Open :
Chairperson Kenneth Horst declared the public hearing open at 7 : 04 P . M. and read the following
Notice of Publication and posting .
"NOTICE IS HEREBY GIVEN, that a Public Hearing will be held by the Planning Board of the
Town of Danby on Wednesday, April 16 , 1997. at 7 : 00 F .M. , Danby Town Hall , 1830 Danby Road,
Ithaca, New York 14850 . Purpose of the hearing is to consider a recommendation to the Town
Board with respect to the proposed enlargement of Planned Development zone 10 , located at 303
Gunderman Road, on a portion of Town of Danby Tax parcel No . 9/- 1 -9 . 12 from 5 .22 acres to 12 . 70
acres, and with such enlarged Zone to include a proposed design studio/future residence , and a new
access drive . Matthew and Jeanne Engelhart, Angelheart Designs , Inc . Owners .
All interested parties will be given the opportunity to be heard either in writing or in person.
By Order of the Planning Board Chair
Carol W . Sczepanski, Town Clerk
Dated: April 8 , 1997
Published : April 10 , 1997 "
Affidavit of Neighbor Notification was filed on April 10 , 1997 .
Matthew Engelhart addressed the Board and public with a brief description of his plan for the : !I
proposed enlargement of Planned Development Zone No . 10 . He said the proposed studio does not
mean an increase in employees . It is for Jeanne Engelhart to have a separate space to do design work
and at a future time it could be used as a residence . The access to the building is off of the existing
road. The proposed expansion of the Planned Development Zone is to allow for a possible future
warehouse with access around the new septic field as it appears on the map and there is nothing in
the plans for a warehouse at this time . The house is to be a post and beam old agricultural looking
structure with tongue and groove vertical siding.
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Communications Received :
Chairperson Horst read the following petition that was filed with the Town Clerk on April 15 , 1997
by Robert Strichartz and contained 11 signatures .
"To : Danby Planning Board
From : Immediate Neighbors of Angelheart Designs, Inc .
We ask that you recommend that the Town Board deny the request to enlarge planned
® Development Zone 10 . The current size and operation of the zone is already having a severe
negative impact on the neighborhood, and any enlargement would significantly reduce property
values. The specific problems arising from the current operation, which will be described in detail
at the meeting by various individuals, include : unusually bright and disturbing lighting, excessive
traffic, building materials on neighboring properties, and garbage blowing onto the road and
neighboring properties . In addition, we are concerned by the stress on the water supply that any
increased usage would entail . We all rely on well water, which is not abundant in this area.
If and when these concerns are properly addressed, we would be willing to endorse the
inclusion of a design studio/future residence, provided it would meet current zoning regulations for
a residence . But we would oppose any enlargement of the warehouse operation. "
Naomi Strichartz - 708 Comfort Road - said that her property adjoins Angelheart Designs and
would approve of a house but does not understand why they need 12 acres of commercial zoning for
that. Her basic concerns are traffic, lighting, and a shortage of water. She said that this is a rural
residential area and she views Angelheart as a warehouse .
Frank Darrow - 400 Gunderman Road - reported that he was a member of the Planning Board when
i the proposal for the initial Planned Development Zone was approved for five (5 ) or six (6) acres .
He said that he has a problem with what is happening here and the vagueness of the proposal . He
said that the property and the commercial aspects of it have grown to the point where it does have
a significant impact on his neighborhood . He finds it difficult to understand why a 2- 1 /2 times
enlargement of the commercial portion of the property is necessary for the building of a residence .
His major concern is vagueness and only being presented at this late date with any idea of what is
going on.
Stephanie Fetherbay - 334 Gunderman Road - reported she is representing her parents and said that
there is concern with what they will do with the house they now live in once they have built the
future house and the effect on the water supply. Last June at a previous hearing the neighbors were
assured that there were no future plans for expansion but once again there is a new proposal .
Angelheart Designs has grown too big for their residential neighborhood .
Pat Woodworth - 305 Gunderman Road - when they purchased the property to build their home it
clearly was a rural residential area. Things have changed dramatically with serious impacts on the
neighborhood that will have a long term effect on property values .
Joseph Chang - 326 Gunderman Road - never expected another huge expansion and is concerned
® with the impact on the environment and the construction debris that is blowing around from
Angelheart during construction.
Bob Strichartz - 708 Comfort Road - his wife earlier expressed their concerns . The map includes
enlarging the access road . He said that the road does not need to be enlarged and double land area
for a design studio . He said he trusts that Matt cares about the land and does not do things that
pollute the environment. He is concerned that a future owner of the property may not be as careful .
Matt Engelhart - addressed the neighbors concerns and said that while he may appear unconcerned
with his neighbors concerns, he is very concerned . When the property was approved for the existing
warehouse he was also approved for future square footage . The road shown on the plan would only
be built if they decided to go ahead with a future plan and at this time it is only a possibility . They
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have not had a water problem and the building housed up to fifty dairy cows when it was used as a
dairy barn. He does understand that the lights may be a problem and is open to any suggestions to
solve the problem and will take responsibility for construction debris that may blow around during
construction. Trees will be planted up the west side and across the Planned Development property .
Any of the neighbors can contact him at any time with their concerns .
Frank Darrow - reported that he has made two observations : 1 ) in terms of the water supply, when
there was a dairy at that location, there were only 1 /3 as many residences : 2) he hasn' t heard
anything yet that justifies a 2- 1 /2 times expansion for commercial area for the property. If the
current warehouse , barn and operation is contained within the lines on the property for the
commercial portion, then it seems to him that the design studio is a very small addition, not a 2- 1 /2
times addition. It seems to him that potentially what they are doing is simply paving the way for
either expansion of the current operation, which is already at the maximum the neighborhood is
willing to tolerate, or for a future owner to expand on the commercial property.
Susan Beeners said that the site of the design studio has to be rezoned to be used for a design studio
and included in the Planned Development Zone . It made sense to include the entire road frontage
area in the Planned Development area. She suggested that restrictions be placed on the land along
the access driveway and design studio to limit the development in that area to a total of two (2)
structures, each typical in size and designed to a single family residence and two (2) accessory
structures, typical in size to what might be placed on a residential property, of up to a maximum
of 400 square feet.
Matthew Engelhart said that he was willing to have development in the area along the access drive
be restricted to just the one ( 1 ) design studio .
Susan Beeners said that at one time the whole Engelhart property of 26 acres was in a Planned
Development Commercial property . In 1991 when the Town Map was adopted it was placed on the
Town Map as a much smaller parcel .
Public Hearing Declared Closed :
Chairperson Horst declared the public hearing closed at 7 : 40 P . M .
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TOWN OF DANBY
PLANNING BOARD MINUTES
Regular Meeting 7 : 30 P.M. April 16, 1997
PRESENT :
Chairperson Kenneth Horst
Planning Board Members : Gerald Catlin, Linda Hansen, Mary Lou Hardesty, Nancy Weitzel
ABSENT :
• William Farrell (Excused)
Arch Dotson (Excused)
Others Present :
Carol Sczepanski - Secretary
Susan Beeners - Code Enforcement Officer
Matthew & Jeanne Engelhart - Angelheart Applicants
Barbara Blanchard - Tompkins County Board of Representatives
Rebecca Bilderback - Better Housing for Tompkins County
Rebecca Lubin - Tompkins County Planning Department
Members of the Public :
Naomi and Robert Strichartz, Cathy and Frank Darrow, Howard Steiner, Stephanie Fetherbay,
Patrick Kelly, Pat Woodworth, Charles H . Tilton, Bill Brodie, Joseph Cheng
Chairperson Horst called the meeting to order at 7 : 40 P .M
Susan Beeners introduced our guests Becky Bilderback from Better Housing for Tompkins County
and Barbara Blanchard a planning consultant and a member of the County Board of Representatives.
Barbara Blanchard said that she is very glad to be asked to be of assistance to the Danby Planning
Board. This year she is chairing the Planning, Development and Education Committee of the County
Board and will be talking about some housing issues .
Becky Bilderback said that affordable housing depends on who you are, where you are, and what is
it. Affordable is very individual .
Becky led the Board through an exercise for determining expenses for a typical household for a
single parent with two (2) children and how it relates to what income may be needed for household
expenses and the purchase of affordable housing .
Other Business :
Chairperson Horst said that April has been a busy month for the Planning Board . There is a public
hearing scheduled for April 23 , 1997 at 7 : 30 p . m. for the proposed Community Center with a special
meeting of the Board to follow and a working session on April 30 , 1997 at 7 : 30 p . m . From this
point on, there will be no more that two (2) meetings scheduled per month.
® Community Council Building Project:
A Public Hearing has been scheduled for Wednesday, April 23 , 1997 at 7 : 30 P . M . for the
Community Council Building Project. Susan distributed the a packet containing the Site Plan and
the first section of the Environmental Assessment Forms to the Planning Board to review.
Discussion:
Chairperson Horst said that he is concerned that Community Council has indicated that they would
like the Planning Board to make a decision on this proposal following the scheduled public hearing
to enable them to submit a grant application that has a May 1 , 1997 deadline .
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Masonry Retail Sales Project :
A letter was presented to the Planning Board by Scott Engelhart indicating that he is interested in
making a proposal to the Town to purchase the Old Town Barns property located on Bald Hill Road .
If he can negotiate the purchase of this property he is asking the Planning Board to consider a
rezoning of this lot for a masonry products store .
Susan reported to the Board that this request is not clear and does not state whether he is
withdrawing the proposal for a Masonry Retail Sales on Comfort Road. The Planning Board has
adjourned decision on the first proposal to tonight. The letter received is not an application. She said
her understanding is that after purchase offers have been accepted, Mr. Engelhart must make an
application and complete a site plan and Environmental Assessment Form for the Planning Board
to consider for a public hearing .
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Motion to Adjourn Discussion
A motion was made by Nancy Weitzel and seconded by Mary Lou Hardesty to adjourn further
discussion and decision on the Engelhart Proposal for a Masonry Supply Retail Sales proposed to
be located on Comfort Road until the regular meeting of the Planning Board to be held on
Wednesday, May 21 , 1997 ..
A vote on the motion resulted as follows :
Carried Unanimously
Corrections to the March 19, 1997 Planning Board Minutes :
1 ) Page 2 - under item no 3 - last sentence- delete the word (business) and insert the word
businesses;
2) Page 2 - Under Approval of March 12 , 1997 Public Hearing Minutes - delete the word
(Engelhart) and insert the word Engelhart' s ;
3 ) Page 3 - Under M. Shepard - add the word are after the word "they" in the last sentence :
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Motion to Approve March 19 . 1997 Planning Board Minutes :
A motion was made by Mary Lou Hardesty and seconded by Nancy Weitzel to approve the March
19, 1997 Planning Board Minutes as corrected .
A vote on the motion resulted as follows :
Carried Unanimously
Angelheart Designs . Inc. Proposal:
A motion was made by Nancy Weitzel and seconded by Mary Lou Hardesty to defer action and
discussion on the Angelheart Designs, Inc . Proposal until Wednesday, April 23 , 1997 .
A vote on the motion resulted as follows :
Carried Unanimously
Adjournment:
On a motion the meeting adjourned at 10 : 00 P .M .
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Carol W . Sc °° . ski , Secretary
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