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HomeMy WebLinkAboutMN-EC-1982-04-15 A
ENERGY CObMI SS ION
CITY OF IT HACA, NEW YORK
REGULAR MEETING COUNCIL CHAMBERS APRIL 15, 1982
PRESENT:
E. Bury, D. Dylla, J. Fudala, H. Jones, J. Howarth, B. Nichols, C. Peterson, N. Potter,
and Department Liaison J. Clynes.
The meeting was called to order at 7:31 p.m. by Vice Chairman Doug Dylla.
MINUTES:
The spelling of Jerry Messmer 's name was corrected from Bessmer.
The minutes as corrected were approved unanimously.
CONMUNITCATIONS:
Mr. Dylla reported summarized letters forwarded to him from Chairman B. Wood. The
first was a letter from Mayor Shaw recommending that appointments to the Energy Com-
mission be for a two year period and staggered . He stated that he would like to
see all current vacancies in the Commission filled. Mr. Dylla noted that there is
also a need to take care of loose ends by settling the question of a Council liaison;
the change from Planning and Development to Budget and Administration has not been
formalized. There was no Common Council member present for most of last month's
meeting and none was present tonight, it was noted.
Mr. Nichols, seconded by Mr. Jones, moved that the Chair of the Commission consult
with the Mayor and Comnon Council on the subject of Council Liaison and discuss any
other recommended changes. There was unanimous approval. Mr. Dylla, Mr. Jones,
Mr. Bury, and Ms. Fudala agreed to comprise such a committee.
Next was a letter from City Engineer Phil Cox to Mayor Shaw stating that his staff
had done an analysis of "1981 Costs For City-owned Buildings" (hereinafter referred
to as, "In-House Analysis") . My. Dylla distributed copies of the results and also
stated that the City is making arrangements with the New York State Energy Office
(NYSEO) to have formal energy audits done on the City Hall Building and the Tin Can.
There was also a memo from Alderman Sean Killeen to the Commission in response to a
letter he had received urging that the Commission look at Tin Can, both because it
has the greatest potential for energy savings and , since its clientele was the
Youth Bureau, energy analyses and savings done there had great educational potential.
ANNOUNCEMENTS:
Ms. Fudala announced that the Tompkins County Energy/Housing Committee was sponsor-
ing a SUNday Fair on the Ithaca Commons on Saturday, May 22, from 11:00 a.m. to
3:00 p.m. The Fair will focus primarily on solar, although there may be wind/hydro
displays. Solar dealers and agencies with solar projects and information will be
invited to participate. Ms. Fudala also announced the upcoming "Survival Week" and
the April 22 NYSEG rate hearing.
Mr. Dylla announced that there would be energy conservation workshops at Cornell on
Tuesday, April 27, by Eugene Ledger . There is to be a technical one in the after-
noon on Super insulation methods and a free public lecture in the evening.
OLD BUSINESS:
Hydro Commission
Ms. Fudala reported that on April 6 the Environmental Impacts Committee of the Hydro
Comnission made recommendations to the Comnission as a whole, that if a plant was
built that the minimal flow rate with the plant operating be raised from 32 to 50
cubic feet per second (cfs) to minimize scenic and recreational (especially fishing)
impacts and that provisions be made to guarantee public access to the Falls and pub-
lic safety. A possible environmental impact, cited in her own portion of the report,
was the dispacement of fossil fuels with subsequent pollutant emissions.
The Proposals Comnittee summarized weaknesses in the two applications, Cornell and
Synergics, at the April 13 meeting, making considerable use of the Environmental Com-
mittee's report and drafted some suggestions for a more "ideal" project.
Mr. Nichols reported that his "City Involvement" Committee recommended that the City
file a letter of intent to develbp an application, that a firm was ready and willing
to do the application (and also hoped to get the construction contract) and that the
comnittee had determined that the plant would be an economic benefit to the City.
The full Hydro Commission will vote on its recommendations for city action at the
next meeting. Common Council must then act on these before May 6th, the deadline set
by the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission for a filing to preempt existing proposals
and/or intervene/
Mr. Bury, seconded by Ms. Potter, moved that the Energy Commission recommend that the
City exercise its opportunity to become involved in the licensing process to ensure
community control over conservation and scenic values at the Falls and to ensure the
greatest financial return to the City. The motion was passed, 7-0, with one abstention
(Mr. Peterson).
Mr. Nichols and Ms. Fudala will bring the resolution to the next meeting of the Hydro
Commission. As this is the meeting at which the Commission will make its final recom-
mendations to the City, Energy Comnissioner '.B. Nichols made a special point of invit-
ing members to come. Mr. Dylla stated that Mr. Nichols and Ms. Fudala were to be com-
mended for their work on the Hydro Comnission.
COMl2ITTEE REPORTS:
Target Applications (formerly called Large Users) Committee
In the absence of comnittee chair R. Lacey, Ms. Potter reported that Mr. Lacey had
sent a letter to Contruction and Maintenance (CSM) Building Superintendent Jack
Dougherty outlining energy-saving steps recommended by the Commission. These in-
clude ('1) conversion from electric to gas heat--something which DPW has been activl y
considering (2) improvement of roof insulation (3) night-time setbacks of thermostats
especially in the office area (4) lowering the temperature in the vehicle storage
area to at or below 50 degrees F. (5) shut off lamps in the storage area when not in
use (6) automatic dampers to prevent heat loss through the ceiling and (7) support
for a step C&M has already decided on--replacing overhead doors with wood panel doors.
Ms. Potter stated that the meeting Tuesday of that week with Mr. Dougherty had gone
well. He told committee members that most of the steps could be taken in this year's
budget; conversion, however, would have to wait for the 1983 budget.
Regarding the C&M conversion, Mr. Howarth reported that he had, as agreed, spoken to
Jerry Messmer at NYSEG who had stated that the gas main would have to be rebuilt from
across the street to accommodate the extra CSM capacity. This would be a hefty cost
to NYSEG.
Mr. Dylla asked Mr. Clynes what would be the most effective way to make recommena-
tions. Mr. Clynes replied that the process should include a letter to the Board of
Public Works with carbon copies to the Mayor and Council. Mr. Nichols added that
where suggestions entailed specific departments or buildings, the main letter should
go directly to the superintendent or department head. The precedent of establishing
good will by working with people directly had proven thus far to be excellent.
Another suggestion that had come up was a training workshop for superintendents and
department heads. There was general consensus to pursue the workshop idea by work-
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ing through the Mayor and Comnon Council.
Mr. Clynes stated that any specific proposals mast be made by September 1 to tae in-
cluded in the 1983 budget.
Discussion then centered around the differnce between the "In House Analysis" and
previous computations of Large Users obtained by the Comnission. One reason for the
difference in which buildings/systems come up as the largest users is that the In House
figures are based on energy costs per square foot. Ms. Peterson pointed out that a
possible fallacy in that was because overall square footage misht include ground
between sections of a building in some cases.
Mr. Nichols urged that the Target Applications Committee take a walk through the
Hall of Justice Building, shown on the In House sheet to be the second largest users
(by square feet). Committee members agreed that would be a good idea; arrangements
will be made.
Mr. Dylla stated that he had met briefly with Police Commissioners who had offered
someone as a liaison between that department and the Energy Commission.
Ideas, Inc.
Mr. Howarth distributed a list of Guidelines toward the goad of "reducing energy con-
sumption in offices and buildings throughout the City by involving city employees".
He stated that it was his understanding that there would be no legal problems with
the $50 prize for suggestions actually used.
Mr. Dylla suggested that others volunteer to meet with Mr. Howarth and work up a
specific program for the next meeting and include some cost details. Mr Jones Vol-
unteered . 1-
unteered .
Mr. Nichols suggested that before a lot of time was spent on this to submit Mr. Ho-
warth's Goal and Guidelines to Elva Holman/B&A Committee to get a sense of how much
support the concept would get. There was consensus to do this.
Mr. Howarth had to leave at this point.
Mr. Nichols announced that funds had been voted at the last Common Council meeting
to institute gasoline control through the purchase of fuel storage tanks and the
furnishing and installation of hardware. Funds over and above initial proposal had
been voted to purchase more expensive fiberglass tanks rather than the originally
proposed steel tanks.
In response to a question, Mr. Clynes replied that the gas control devices should be
in operation within eight weeks, allowing six weeks for shipment and one week for
installation.
Lighting/Alternate Fuels
(Was to be with Target Applications but deferred for Mr. Howarth's report. )
Mr. Bury stated his interest in joining the Target Applications Committee and stated
that he had a few areas to report relevant to that area.
First, he stated that the costs of lighting the Green Street Parking ramp were
$155,100.00 annually. If low pressure sodium (hereinafter abbreviated as LPS) were
used, the annual lighting cost would be $38,400.00 resulting in a yearly savings of
$116,700.00. The proposal to convert that garage and the one on Seneca Street to
LPS had to come up before and had been dropped because the photographic light meter
used to gauge some test LPS lamps had given the impression that an insufficient
lighting level would be provided. Mr. Bury felt that a meter measuring foot candle
luminosity should have been used instead. Additionally, a question had arisen re-
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garding the safety of sodium in the disposal of it. Mr. Bury questioned this because
high pressure sodium lights which contain the same amount of sodium had never been
challenged on that basis; not had questions ever arisen regarding the poisonous mer-
cury vapor in those far-less-energy-efficient mercury vapor lights.
A report by Lustra Lighting showed a 14 month payback period for installation of LPS.
Equipment would cost $48,000.00 and installation would cost approximately $11,000.00.
Mr. Clynes stated that there should be a meeting with all sides of the issue present.
Mr. Dylla asked Mr. Bury and Mr. Clynes if they would meet with Mr. Kinsella regarding
the matter. Both agreed.
Ms. Peterson explained that Mr. Kinsella was dubious about data from vendors regard-
ing their own product.
Mr. Bury stated that the City will spend $212,000.00 for street lighting in 1982 and
added that Chuck Barber of City Engineering staff and Jerry Messmer of NYSEG were pre-
paring a report on street lighting without any input from the Commission. NYSEG is
apparently unwilling to put LPS lapps on poles it owns, although the City can do so
on those (a good number) which it owns.
Mr. Clynes stated that the Department study was a reaction to the Mayor's concerns
and that for that reason the fact that such a study was being done by DPW should
not be criticized. Mr. Bury replied that such had not been his intent; his concern
had only been that there be consultation with the Energy Commission.
Ms. Potter suggested that Mr. Clynes contact Mr. Barber to ascertain exactly what was
happening with the study; Mr. Clynes agreed. Mr. Dylla suggested that Mr. Barber be
invited to the next meeting and that any written material he had be sent out in advance
with the April minutes to give the commission members a chance to digest it beforehand
and prepare questions. There was general agreement on this.
Finally, Mr. Bury noted that he hoped the City would pursue alternatives to gasoline
and diesel fuels. Mr. Clynes remarked that he had just ordered two documents on the
subject and had forwarded two others already in his possession to Mr. Kinsella.
Accounting Committee
Ms. Peterson stated that while there had been no meeting of either Accounting or
Target Applications Committee between comnission meetings that she had pulled the
top 15 energy users from the list provided the Target Applications Comnittee. She
noted that the list did not match up exactly with the In House Analysis' list. Her
list consists of the following:
Seneca Street Garage GIAC Building
Green Street Garage Street Lighting
City Hall Vinegar Hill Pumping Station
Hall of Justice Construction & Maintenance Garage
Filter Plant Tin Can
Sewer Plant Cass Park
Central Fire Station Water Department Building
No. 9 Fire Station
Ms. Peterson stated that she did not wanted another month to submit the list to Elva
Holman so that particular monitoring of these buildings could begin. The Commission
agreed.
NEW BUSINESS
Mr. Dylla stated that he had received a letter from Mr. Wood stating that he was
resigning from the Commission. The letter expressed regret that personal matters
had forced him to take this action and because he had found his work with the Com-
mission to be enjoyable and rewarding.
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Mr. Dylla explained that he had not announced Mr. Wood's regignation until this point
in the meeting because he had not wanted the news to be disruptive. Commission mem-
bers agreed with this and expressed disappointment at losing such an active member.
Mr. Bury suggested that new elections be tabled until the Mayor had filled the vac-
ancies, hopefully by next month, and that Mr. Dylla continue to act as chair until
then.
A question arose as to whether the Commission should have eleven or thirteen members.
The Bylaws state eleven but it was generally felt that with thirteen members there
was more chance of a quorum at meetings. This, as well as making the change to B&A,
will be discussed with the Mayor and Planning and Development Chairman Dennis.
Ms. Fudala, seconded by Mr. Nichols, moved that present members who have not attended
the last three meetings be given a chance to attend the next meeting before being
considered off the Commission. This was unanimously approved.
ADJOURNMENT:
On a motion.the meeting was adjourned at 9:40 p.m.
ENERGY COMU SSION
AGENDA
FOR
MAY 20, 1982 MEETING
7:30 p.m.
CO[NCIL CHAMBERS
Correction/Approval of Minutes
Announcements
Correspondence
Old Business: Hydro Commission
Target Applications Committee/Chuck Barber Presentation
Ideas Inc.
Accounting
New Business: Vacancies
Election of Chair
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CITY of ITHACA
' ENERGY COMMISSION
106 E. STATE ST.
ITHACA, N.Y.
S07-272-1713
April 8, 1982
Mr. Jack Dougherty
Department of Public Works
245 Pier Road
Ithaca, New York 14850
Dear Mr. Dougherty:
As chairman of the Target Applications Subcommittee of the Ithaca City
Energy Commission let me thank you for your cooperation regarding inspection
of the Construction and Maintenance Facility. Our inspection and subsequent
discussions have defined several specific measures that would improve the
energy efficiency of the C & M Garage. I suspect the items on this list will
be of no surprise to you as you are certainly more familiar with the building
than we could become in a short tour. Accept this list as very flexible rec-
omend ations from some casual observers. We are unable to fully understand the
effect of these conservation measures on your operations. For this reason we
have not released this list to anyone outside the Energy Commission. Your in-
put is necessary before definite list of conservation measures can be released.
Here are our preliminary recommendations:
1. We support your efforts to convert from electric to gas' water and
space heating. The heating portion of your bill could be cut in
half by this conversion. Assuming 60% of your electric consumption
is used for water heating or space heating in the main garage this
energy (500,000 KWH) cost you $22,000 in 1982. The same amount of
heat supplied by gas at 65% efficiency and $.40 per threm would cost
$10,500. Of course, the cost of conversion must be considered but
we suspect a strong econcmic incentive for conversion exists.
2. Regardless of the heating fuel an effective method should be found
for roof insulation in the garage area. Considerable heat loss
occurs through ceiling panels that are intentionally or accidently
out of place. The solution to this problem will not be easy. We
suggest the present utility pipes be either a) wrapped with heat
tape and insulated or b) rerouted lower in the heated area. Fiber-
glass ceiling panels should then be secured in place and perhaps
additional insulation could be justified.
3. Temperatures throughout the building should be acclimately controlled
and should be no higher than necessary. We feel night time set-back
in the office area would result in a great savings. Set-back is not
practical with the present integral thermostats on each baseboard
heater. Perhaps all the office heaters are grouped on one or two
circuits on the peak control device and could be switched there using
a hall thermostat. Please consider lowering the vehicle storage area
to 500 F. , or lower. We must consider not only higher heat loss through
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the walls and roof caused by higher space temperatures but also the
energy cost to warm a couple hundred tons of buses and 'trucks to
higher temperatures each night.
4. As you have noted the original overhead doors on this building are
very poor, we support your replacement of these doors with wood panel
doors.
5. Lighting levels were very good throughout the facility. Adequate back-
ground light was present (10-15 footcandles in the work and storage bays)
with greater illumination provided by fluorescent lamps where needed.
We do recommend shuting off the lamps in the offices and storage areas
whenever they are not required .
6. our final recommendation is actually a question. Does the ceiling ven-
tilation system include automatic dampers to prevent heat loss during
the winter? It probably does but this should be checked as heat loss
through an open ventilation system would. be disasterous.
Please review these observations and give them some thought before we get
together to discuss them in more detail, including your perspective.
Sincerely,
D. Randall Lacey
DRL:eg
cc: Bob Wood, Chairman
Target Applications Subcommittee
Jeanne Fudala
Nancy Potter
Carolyn Peterson
Doug Dylla
Harold Jones
Jack Clynes
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CITY HALL 108 E. GREEN STREET
ITHACA, NEW YORK 14850
OFFICE OF
CITY ENGINEER M E M O R A N D U M 607-272-1713
To: Donald A. Kinsella
From: C. W. Barber
Re: Street Lighting Proposal
Date: April 16, 1982
The object of this proposal is to minimize the consumption of
energy and formulate a cost effective program that will comply with
all of the State and Federal standards without impairing the health and
safety of the citizenry.
A City-wide street lighting survey should be undertaken by the
City Engineering Department to be sure the existing street lighting
meets the minimum recommendation of the I .E.S. American National Standard
Practice for roadway lighting, and at the same time does not exceed the
standard to a degree that is not cost effective.
I would also recommend replacing some high wattage mercury vapor
luminaires with lower wattage high pressure sodium luminaires. If this
proposal is accepted, we can save energy costs and increase the lumens
(ft. candles per sq. ft.) . This program could be phased in to spread
out the change-over costs. At the same time, an agreement should be
worked out whereby the City owns all street light lamps and either
maintains them with City crews or pays a reduced rate for NYSEG to
maintain the lamps and photo control . As an example of this saving,
please look on the attached street lighting resume which shows:
17,200 M.V. 460 watts - City owned (SC #2) - lamp cost @ $7.00
17,200 M.V. 460 watts - NYSEG owned - lamp cost @ $24.25.
The proposal to change from mercury vapor to sodium will increase
the lamp charges, but the saving in energy costs off-set this cost and
produce a savings. A good place to start this program would be to request
NYSE&G to replace all 9,400 lumen M.V. 292 watts with 14,400 lumen H.P.S.
199 watts; and replace 359 - 17,200 lumen M.V. 460 watts with 24,700 lumen
H.P.S. 313 watts. This is a savings of 97.878 kilowatts , or 412 ,066.38 K.W.H.
per year. The cost saving would be from $9,000 to $13,000 per year , depending
on fuel adjustment cost.
"An Equal Opportunity Employer w to ar Arhrmat,ve Acton Program
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MEMO TO D.A. KINSELLA
FROM C.W. BARBER
As the cost of energy increases , so do the savings for the City.
Note that the proposal on sheets 3 and 4 of the street lighting resume,
pages 1 and 2 are minimum costs for existing conditions, using the 1982
NYSE&G service classification #3.
The following proposal is the most cost effective from the City's
standpoint. However, the NYSE&G told me they would not allow it. The
proposal is that over the coming years as poles , cables and luminaires
need replacement due to vandalism, accident, or otherwise, the City purchase
said equipment and maintain same with City personnel . Under the service
classification #/3 issued October 23, 1981 and in effect beginning October 25,
1981 , the City is bound by the following provision:
". . . If, in the sole opinion of the corporation, corporation owned
facilities become subject to vandalism, the customer shall be required to
reimburse the corporation for all maintenance costs incurred as a result of
vandalism."
The corporation also applies the requirement when a street is damaged by an
auto accident, as was the case when a car knocked over a street light pole
or Route 13 on February 10, 1982. The corporation is charging the City
$500 for the replacement and repair of said pole. Therefore, I believe if
the City must pay said cost, why not own said facility. Under said service
classification #/3, the City is paying an annual fee of $52,647.65 for the
lamp maintenance and $13,752.69 for cable and pole maintenance. This cost
of $64,000 plus the energy savings possible by using lower wattage luminaires
would save another $25,000 .at existing energy costs. This proposal would
require the City to increase the electrical department by two men, a working
foreman, electrician and two laborers to handle the day to day maintenance,
and our construction forces could help in any difficult or larger project.
Two men are now in the electrical department. The two additional men required
would cost around $35,000, and another vehicle would cost $8,000 to purchase.
This cost deducted from the possible savings gives the City $46,000 savings
based on the existing street lighting program. This program could also
give the City more freedom in using the luminaires that best meet the need
of the City. The service classification limits the City of only those
units listed. Unless the City does install and maintain said fixtures, the
only new luminaires the NYSE&G will install and maintain are:
High pressure sodium
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2500 "
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