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BOARD OF ZONING APPEALS, CITY OF ITHACA, CITY HALL, ITHACA, NEW
YORK, JUNE 3, 1974
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At a regular meeting of the Board of Zoning Appeals, City
of Ithaca, held in Common Council Chambers, City Hall, Ithaca,
New York, on June 3, 1974:
PRESENT: PETER MARTIN, CHAIRMAN
C. MURRAY VAN MARTER
GREGORY KASPRZAK
ELVA HOLMAN
EDGAR GASTEIGM
JOHN BODINE
1 MARSHALL LANE, Deputy Building Commis-
sioner and Acting Secretary
DARLEEN LISK, Recording Secretary
Chairman Martin opens meeting, listing members of Board present.
This Board is operating under the provisions of the City Charter
of the City of Ithaca and of the provisions of the Zoning Ordi-
nances; the Board shall not be bound by strict rules of evidence
in the conduct of this hearing, but the determination shall be
founded upon sufficient legal evidence to pustain the same. The
Board requests that all participants identify themselves as to
name and address, and confine their discussions to the pertinent
Ifacts of the case under consideration. Please avoid extraneous
material which would have a delaying effect.
Deputy Commissioner Lane lists what case No. 1048 is to be.
APPEAL N0. 1048: The Appeal of Cornell Radio Guild, Inc. for a
use variance under Sec. 30.25, Col. 2, at 227
Linden Ave. in an R-3 zone.
HELEN AMDUR: My name is Helen Amdur, I am an attorney
with my office in Dryden, New York. With
i me tonight is Mr. Glen Schiller of Ithaca
who is the General Manager of WVBR. Also
Mr. Erving Winternitz of Slaterville
Springs and Raymond Freeland of Homer,
New York who are the owners of Dominos,
the prospective tenant. We have been
before the Board Of Zoning Appeals over
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a period of years, first getting a variance
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for the use of the building for business
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purposes as it is located in the residen-
tial zone and subsequently we obtained a
variance to run the Card & Game Club in
the downstairs portion of the building.
That club is now defunct and we have the
pizza bakery as a prospective tenant
subject to this Board granting a variancel.
At Ahe original hearing it was decided
that there could be commercial use of
the building but each tenant would have
to be approved by the Board of Zoning
Appeals on separate application. The
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Dominos bakery is planning to use a small
portion of the downstairs of the building
it' s a single room now which is approximate-
ly 220 in width and 38' in depth. It has
a separate door leading to the outside
street. This operation is primarily a
pick-up and delivery service of pizzas
and telephone orders and 90% of that
business is delivery rather than pick-up.
There are no seating facilities and there
will be no food served in here or eaten
on the premises. The prospective tenant
has three (3) delivery cars, rather small
and they do deliver from approximately
4:30 to 1:30 a.m. with a closing time of
2:00 a.m. Of course, Health Department
requirements would have to be met but
there will be no increase in traffic in
the area, it' s not inconsistent with
other development in the area. You have
Egans and then another pizza store just
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up the block with on premises consumption
and rooming houses. There will be no
grease or smell which you might have in
a restaurant, there is just a vent which
will be used to move the hot air from the
ovens and it is our position that there
will be no use which will be obnoxious
to the nei§hborhood in terms of increase
�.. in traffic or smell; or congestion. There
are actually very limited uses to which
this building can be put and we have been
I looking for a tenant for a long time and
we would like to have an approval. Mr.
Winternitz and Mr. Freeland are here to
answer any questions with regard to the
operation that the Board may have.
CHAIRMAN MARTIN: The trucks you plan to park in the building?
4 ANSWER: Yes.
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generated?
ANSWER: Well it' s a one-way street so it would
ii have to come down Linden but most of our
business probably will be at Cornell so
it will be right back up most of the traf
fic would be on the university so most
of the deliveries would be on the univer-
sity so it would eliminate us driving
from downtown all the way up - it would
eliminate that traffic between time.
MR. KASPRZAK: Could you repeat the operating hours?
ANSWER: We open at 4 in the afternoon and start
delivering at 4:30, we stop delivering
at 1:30 in the morning and we are open
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until 2, that allows the drivers to get
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back.
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MR. KASPRZAK: There are three (3) vehicles you say and
they are all parked inside?
ANSWER: Yes.
MR. KASPRZAK: How many people working on the premises?
ANSWER: There will be no more than three (3)
people in the store, plus the three
drivers. So there is six (6) all together
but that wouldn't be every day that would
probably be on the week-ends.
MR. GASTEIGER: Presumably this represents a growth in
your business?
ANSWER: Not necessarily growth, it eliminates
having to drive the distance that we have
to drive now, cut down on maintenance,
cut down on travel, cut down on accidents
cut down on problems.
MR. GASTEIGER: How will you vent your ovens?
ANSWER: Through duct work and exhaust fans.
MR. GASTEIGER: Do you anticipate this being any kind
of a problem in terms of the neighbors?
ANSWER: We have other shops in residential areas
and we have never had any;tproblems. Most
of the air that comes out is just hot air
there is hardly any smell because youaare
baking, it' s not grease, it' s not various
�-' f bods, it' s not all types of odors, it' s
bread.
MR. KASPRZAK: Since, again, your area of delivery is
Cornell did you try to locate in other
places than this particular one?
ANSWER: We have been looking for a location for
a considerable time but the basic problem
with most of these stores available, when
they were available in Collegetown or
around Collegetown, they would have
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absolutely no off-street parking.
MR. KASPRZAK: How about a noise factor since you have
ithree (3) trucks coming and going between
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4:30 and 1:30 in the morning?
ANSWER: Well it' s a Datsun pick-up and as I say
lwe have shops in residential areas alread
and we have never had trouble about that,
so I would say no.
MRS. HOLMAN: The statement was made that 90% of the
business would be delivery but no food
was served or eaten on the premises, what
is the remaining 10%?
ANSWER: Take out, a customer may come to the store
and buy a pizza to eat but they can't eat
pizza there.
NP?. GASTEIGER: Will the apron of this building be avail-
able for this type of pick-up; from what
you said, I take it your trucks are going
to go inside for this type of loading?
ANSWER: Well they may pull in but at that hour,
four o' clock, there will be very few cars
related to the station, therefore we coul
use the under the building parking right
directly in front or if the truck isn't
being used it will be in the building so
there are fixe or six spots right out in
front there so there is more than ade-
quate parking for customers who come.
CHAIRMAN MARTIN: Can you estimate on a typical evening how
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many trips out there are going to bewith
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these trucks?
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ANSWER: I would say each truck might make 20 trip
a night with a total of about 60 trips
for all three trucks.
MR. KASPRZAK: Question to the owner, one of the condi-
tions that the Zoning Law says here to be
proved is hardship, do you have any
comments on that?
MRS. AMDUR: Well the hardship was proved years ago
u when it was proved that this building
couldn' t be used for other than commercia
use because there was no way to make this
into any kind of a residential unit. At
that time the Board stated that they wanted
an approval of each tenant and I don't
believe we have to prove hardship in each
case. We;would just like to get some
income from the building which we are
now not able to get and I know it has
been on the market for many months and
nobody wants to rent it for an office or
anything like that because there is no
parking. So the building is costing us
considerable money and we would like to
I have some way of getting some of our
investment back.
MR. KASPRZAK: The deliveries of your supplies, how will
�.r these be made?
ANSWER: They will be made by truck.
MR. KASPRZAK: Through the garage?
ANSWER: They will probably park on the apron,
and bring it in through the front door of
our section.
MP.. KASPRZAK: How frequent and how big?
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ANSWER: It would be once a day and the largest
thing that would be delivered are trays
of dough that are probably 30" by 20"
and there are dough patties in them and
they bring them in and there would be a
cooler in the store.
MRS. HOLMAN: How many vehicles can that garage accom-
modate and how many vehicles does WVBR
operate?
MR. SCHILLER: '�VBR rents a parking lot down the street
and there are three (3) spaces in that
and we have in the garage itself seven
(7) spaces and the five (5) spaces in the
front. You need one person to operate
the radio station at night and there are
generally two there until 11:30 or so and
then one after that so when the Dominos
trucks are operating, I can't really see
any problems.
NR. KASPRZAK: You have to guarantee at least six if the re
are to be three drivers and at leastthree
workers at the maximum times?
ANSWER: Well for ; the record, which I assume you
want this in, we can guarantee six spaces
CHAIRMAN MARTIN: Are there any further questions from the
Board?
None.
Is there anybody else here who would like
to speak on behalf of this petition?
None.
Is there anybody here who would like to
speak in opposition to it?
PAUL GILLETTE: My name is Paul Gillette and I live at
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202 Linden Avenue and I believe I'm the
oldest resident on Linden Avenue and it
fhas always been a residential street.
Then the new Linden Garage came in and
that made quite a change with lots of
noise and traffic and things began to
deteriorate. In my block there are only
five homes out of thirty residences in th
block that are home ownership with the
people living there and the rest are all
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absentee ownersand multiple dwellings
and rooming houses. We want to k6ep it
a residential area and I am very much
afraid opening it up to a store like
this will Just be the opening for more
to get in. We were pleased to see the
laundry who took over from the garage
go out they made lots of noise and
confusion, their delivery trucks were
going all the while. We welcome the
WVBR coming in because they have upgraded
the property and there is no noise of
confusion. But I am afraid that a store
there will generate more traffic and they
is already a considerable amount there
on Linden Avenue. I live on the corner
of Linden and Bool and trucks will be
going down there at night and at all
hours. There is no parking hardly
available on Linden Avenue. It would
be very difficult for anyone else to
park there and come in and buy anything.
I was glad to read in the paper the
other night that the Planning Board for
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whom I have great respect recommend that
the BZA do not allow the variance. The
property owners, the six or seven I
mentioned there, and I might say I'm
! speaking not only for myself but for
( Harold Otter, Theodore Oliver, Carl
Houser, all of whom are property owners
and they coald not come tonight, and I'm
speaking for them as well as for myself.
I donot think it is in the best interest
of the community that this variance be
allowed.
MOSS SEVEDLER: I am Moss Sevedler and I own the property
at 308 Bryant Avenue. Linden is a qui6t
street and many of the streets in the
area, they are not like College Avenue
and Eddy Street and a few of those. One
of the main things I am afraid of is that
opening a place like this might turn it
into a street like Eddy Street. I like
Dominos pizza and perhaps it doesn't use
a lot of grease but I have picked up
pizza at their place on Taughannock Blvd.
and you can smell a pizza smell and
although it may be pleasant, I think
living next to it everyday would be
something else again. I also think that
if this place opens up what will be next.
LEO GUENTERT: My name is Leo Guentert and I live at
231 Highgate Road and we have two proper-
ties on Bryant Avenue just above the
building in question. I feel that the
properties would deteriorate with more
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traffic and noise and it would be more
difficult to rent the property.
SYLVIA GUENTERT: I am Sylvia Guentert and I live at 231
Highgate Road and I own the property at
304 Bryant Avenue and it' s a property
that we moved away from and we moved
away from it because of the noise of the
Linden Garage. The exhaust in the garage
was so bad that we had to bring the
people from the city to see what we were
getting. kle have had tenants move into
the house at 304 Bryant Avenue since we
lived there and they have noticed the
exhaust from the Linden Avenue when the
Linden Garage was in there and I am
afraid that we will have the same trouble
with any kind of baking. I realize that
baking a pizza doesn' t include the dough
end of it but there is an odor from every-
thing that is put on the top of it and I
would hate to have to go through that
same ordeal of trying to rent property
and have your people stay in that home
at 304 Bryant Avenue if we had recurrence
of another odor coming from there. Anoth r
thing is that hill right beside of the
garage and on that hill it is sort of
slippery in the winter time and when they
rented it for the laundry it was scooting
up and down trying to make that hill to
get up at the top„to store their trucks. '
You would be wakened up many tim_qp, during
the night.
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PAUL STEIGER: I am Paul Steiger and I live at 935 East
State Street and we own the property
adjacent to this at 221-223 Linden Avenue
The property line between the WVBR property
and our property is 3" from the edge
of their building at one end and 6" from
the edge of their building at the other
end. It is exactly 9' from their building
to my building. A little over two years
ago I stood here and supported WVBR comin
in to the location feeling that the
property should be put to a legitimate
use, and feeling that that was a legiti-
mate use. They subsequently installed
an electrical conduit that protrude* BY2" ;
keep in mind that the property line is
about 3" so the conduit is protruding
onto our property approximately 9" . Now
that may seem small but in a 9' driveway
believe me it isn't and if you investigate
it you will see that essentially, for all
practical purposes, it blocks me from eve
putting a large truck, such as a concrete
mixer, up into our parking area up in this
area. They installed a ventilating fan
within reach of children without a guard
on it and it was operated that way for
approximately two months after which I
wrote Edison Jones and told him that if
that continued I was going to build a
wall in front of it and they put a guard
over it. The ventilating fan is 9' from
our house, we have a bedroom window right
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there, it' s 10 from the bedroom window ii
and operates, when the place of business
here was opened, it operated intermittentLy
late days and evenings and late into the
night. In addition to that they were
required to put in an exit door and
apparently they were required to put in
an exit door that exited onto our property.
v ! We were concerned about the liability and
we investigated and we found out that it
would substantially increase our risk of
liability and insurance costs; we attempted
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to negotiate with them for picking up
this cost which they would not negotiate
to do. The door continued to be there,
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they installed the conduit, the door and
the ventilating fan from our property and
their property without permission, the
door continued to be there operable with
an exit sign until I rendered it inoper-
able for our own protection by inserting
a steel post into concrete. After that
I became concerned that there was a lit
exit sign in here saying that they could
go out a door that they could not get out
and I wrote Edison Jones indicating that
this was an unsafe situation, they turned
off the light on the exit sign, how they
happened to be able to operate without the
exit door, I don't know but they are. My
point regarding this is not that I suppor ed
it so I' ll accept the responsibility. I
supported WVBR coming in, I don't condemn
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the Board at all for doing it because I
was part of it but one mistake is enough.
I only outline this because I think it
should be outlined what kind of a land-
lord we are dealing with next to us in
that building. I have a letter from my
attorney that says, this I received this
week, "they claim that the lower floor
u is mostly below ground level and doesn' t
j lend itself to addquate doors and windows
necessary for residential use; that the
building has always been nonconforming
commercial though in R-3 residential zone
that no sales will be conducted on the
premises." I believe that this is in
conflict with what was said here tonight.
"There will be only loading of delivery
trucks for home delivery; that the opera-
tion will not alter the appearance; the
traffic pattern or noise level of the
neighborhood will not be increased." Wel
if you think that the traffic pattern or
the noise level will not be increased, go
up and listen to this ventilating fan,
this outfit has moved out and it' s not
operating now, but we have had trouble
renting this apartment because of this
16" ventilating fan operating, they
can't possibly install ventilating fans
to vent this operation without the noise
level being increased. Parking for
employees, or parking for the trucks
I take it will be right here in front
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and there are open windows through this
area and at 2:30 in the morning or 2:00
our tenants are going to hear trucks
parking in that garage; I don't think
that this is necessary, I don't think
it should be allowed. Where are the
people going to park that pick-up, you
say that M6 of the business will be
pick-up what assurance do we have that
50% of the business won't be pick-up
three years from now. People don' t drive
to pick-up pizza, we must be different,
we drive to pick up our pizza. The truck
have to go down Linden Avenue every time
by our property so it has to alter the
traffic pattern and I guess it depends
on how they construe altering the traffic
pattern. If they are going to College-
town or if they are going on up onto the
Campus with pizza they have to go down
Bool Street which is an extremely congest ?d
street. We rent to tenants, we rent to
graduate student couples and they rent
from us because they know that at 11:00
things will get quiet and that they can
study. For the last 2Y22 years the people
u in the apartment I described earlier and
the one above it and the one below it, it s
a three-story building, have not been able
to have quiet after 11:00; we ask them
to be quiet, but we don't provide them
with a quiet environment. I simply plead
that you won' t allow this to happen, the
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odor I didn't hit but the odor has got
to be a menace from a pizza place in that
neighborhood.
MRS. AMDUR: I don' t know who gave Mr. Adams, if he is
still Mr. Steigers' lawyer, the informati n
that there would be no sales on the
premises because we did not discuss it,
that is obviously not correct, we have
said that there will be some sales. With
respect to the kind of neighbor that the
station has been I would like to take
exception to most of the things that Mr.
Steiger said. I was involved in corre+
spondence with his attorney, first of all
I don't believe the boundary lines are
where he says because we have another map
to the contrary which is filed in the
County Clerks' office. The spike, accord-
ing to measurements that I made with the
previous station manager I believe is on
our property and that particular door
was only to be used as an emergency exit
in case of a fire or other disaster, it
was not a general exit. We engaged in a
lot of correspondence back and forth,
consulted our own agent and our own
agent advised us that we had adequate
coverage. I believe at one point Mr.
Steiger indicated that if anybody fled
from the building through that exit during
a fire or other disaster he would be
charged with trespassing and I think that' s
the point at which I gave up. I think
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the station has been a good neighbor to
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all of its nei0hbors and I think other
I� people here have indicated that they have
Ii kept up the building, they have done an
enormous amount of improvements to the
building which for many, many years was
a laundry and for many, many years be-
fore that was a garage and I'm sure that
anything that we have now has got to be
an improvement over what had been there
before. I really don' t think that any
of this that' s happened with respect to
the boundary line dispute or the fire
door dispute is within the province or
jurisdiction of this particular Board.
As far as the vent goes, we are talking
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about venting on the other side of the
building, the vent that he is talking
about I am sure would not take care of
going through the garage and one room
and then to the other side of the build-
ing. It would have to be venting in
accordance with whatever the Health
Department requirements are.
MR. KASPRZAK: If you are going to have it venting on
the other side, how close is the adjacent
property?
MRS. AMDUR: It' s very far back, there is no building
immediately adjacent to this.
MRS. HOLMAN: How close is the building to the property
line on this side?
MRS. AMDUR: We are practically right on the line ther
and on the other side it is a matter of
inches.
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MR. GASTEIGER: Is it the intent to put a window or
anything in the bakery area?
ANSWER: We are not going to change it structural)
at all.
CHAIRMAN MARTIN: Are there any further questions?
None.
Ile will now move on to the next case.
EXECUTIVE SESSION, BOARD OF ZONING APPEALS, CITY OF ITHACA, NNE 3
1974
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APPEAL NO. 1048:
MR. KASPRZAK: I move that the variance be denied.
MR. MARTIN: I second that.
FINDINGS OF FACT:
1) The proposed use is substantially
different from that for which the
original variance to WVBR was granted
that it must be considered on its
own;
2) Evidence presented by both the ap-
plicant and adjacent owners indicates
that the proposed use would generate
substantial traffic at a late hour
having a likely adverse effect on a
residential neighborhood.
VOTE: YES - 6 NO - 0
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BOARD OF ZONING APPEALS, CITY OF ITHACA, CITY HALL, ITHACA, NEW
YORK, JUNE 3, 1974
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Deputy Commissioner Lane lists what case No. 1049 is to be.
APPEAL NO. 1049: The Appeal of Winthrop and Andrea Wetherbee for
an area and use variance under Sec. 30.25, Col.
2-12 at 402 Chestnut Street in an R-1 zone.
DAVID GERSH: My name is David Gersh, I am an attorney
in the office of WiggLns, Tsapis, Holmber
8 Gersh and I'm here this evening with my
clients, Winthrop and Andrea Wetherbee,
in connection with an appeal for use and
area variances. This matter was heard
previously last month and the Board found
that Mr. Wetherbee, who was not represent d
by counsel at that time, had asked only
for an area variance and it was the belie
of the Attorney for the City, Mr. Shapiro
that perhaps a use variance also should
have been requested since our request is
to put a dwelling unit in a detached
structure. The Zoning Ordinance is sig-
nificantly ambiguous so that Mr. Shapiro
was of the opinion that it appeared at
least that perhaps a use variance should
also be aequested. So our appeal tonight
is for a use variance to permit an apart-
ment to be put in the upper story of a
two-story garage where a dwelling unit had
been previously and also an area variance
because the structure which predates the
Zoning Ordinance by many years, is within
a few feet to close of the lot line and
because the total area of the lot is
defficient by some few thousand feet.
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MR. GERSH: Mr. Wetherbee would you state for the
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Board your occupation and where you
reside?
MR. WETHERBEE: I am an Associate Professor in the
English Department at Cornell and my
wife and I live at 402 Chestnut Street.
MR. GERSH: How long have you been at that address?
j MR. WETHERBEE: Since June, 1968.
MR. GERSH: Is it your intention to remain at that
address in the future?
MR. WETHERBEE: Yes it is.
MR. GERSH: So this appeal is not related to a desire
to sell the property?
MR. WETHERBEE: No.
MR. GERSH: What are the improvements that you intend
to make?
MR. WETHERBEE: The improvements would be to take the
lame unfinished apparently one-family
living quarters in the second story of
the garage and make it into a studio
apartment. We have had an architect look
at it, and we have talked to the Building
Commissioner about the specifications of
the building itself and this can satisfy
all the other requirements except the one
we are asking for tonight.
MR. GERSH: When did you purchase the property?
MR. WETHERBEE: In 1968.
MR. GERSH: Over the years, have you improved the
property?
MR. WETHERBEE: Yes we have, we have redone most of the
floors and walls and ceilings in the
house. We are in the process of having
the foundations of the garage itself
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fixed because they are going to cave in
and this needed doing regardless of what
we can do with the restof the building.
MR. GERSH: Would you describe generally the improve-
ments on the property in terms of the
house and the garage?
MR. WETHERBEE: It' s a frame house, four bedrooms upstairs,
living, dining rooms, and kitchen down-
stairs, and a bath and a half bath and as
I say we have redone the floors and so
forth. The garage is a frame structure
also with concrete foundations. It
appears that it was once the living
quarters of the servants of the house;
there is the remains of ventilation for
a stove and other things which indicate
that there were living quarters in there
at one time. And what we want to do is
to make this into a studio apartment.
MR. GERSH: Isn' t it a fact that the County Assessor
on his records of this property indicates
in his inspection the phrase "living
quarters upstairs unfinished"?
MR. WETHERBEE: That' s correct.
MR. GERSH: Your desire is to return this section to
living quarters?
MR. WETHERBEE: Yes.
MR. GERSH: Right now it' s not used for anything?
MR. WETHERBEE: No.
MR. GERSH: With respect to the financial burden
that this garage is producing, what are
your annual taxes?
MR. WETHERBEE: The total taxes on this property are about `
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MR. GERSH: I show you Exhibit #1 marked for identi-
fication and aEk you is that your school
tax bill?
MR. WETHERBEE: Yes.
MR. GERSH: Does that document show the division
between land and improvements which make
assessed
up the total p(p(# value of your property
MR. WETHERBEE: Yes, it does.
a.i MR. GERSH: What does the bill indicate as the total?
MR. WETHERBEE: The total figure is $12,550.
MR. GERSH: Of that amount, how much is designated
for other than land?
MR. WETHERBEE: $12,310.
MR, GERSH: So we have $12,310 out of $12,550 indicat
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ing the improvements on the property. No
of that $12,310 what part of that, in you
best judgment, can be properly allocated
to the garage?
MR. WETHERBEE: I would say 25 to 30;'6.
MR. GERSH: On what do you base that?
MR. WETHERBEE: I base it on a recollection of the State
Board of Equalization and things of that
sort which I received at one time And in
those statements the garage was assessed
at about that rate.
MR. GERSH: Compared to a standard size garage how
much additional taxes each year do you
have to pay because of the unusual size
of this two-story garage?
MR. WETHERBEE: I suppose it must make a difference of
15,6.
W. GERSH: So we are talking about at least $120 a
year additional because of the size of
the garage. The garage is shown in a
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photograph on the poster which we placed
there in the hope it makes things a little
bit clearer. I think you can see readily
that that was originally a carriage house
with the upper story used for servants
quarters and it now becomes a very cum-
bersome two-story garage with much more
space than is needed but still has to be
maintained. In addition to the tax burdem
that there is, I trust there is also an
insurance burden because of the size of
that garage. Your insurance bill a year
is what?
MR, WETHERBEE: About $100.
MR. GERSH: Would you again say that 20 or 30% of that
goes for the garage?
MR. WETHERBEE: Yes.
MR. GERSH: In terms of maintenance, is it safe to
say that the extra size of that requires
additional paint, additional shingles,
and so forth?
MR. WETHERBEE: Yes.
MR. GERSH: In addition, you indicated previously
that there is a need for some major
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of this building?
MR. WETHERBEE: Yes, it' s not just a garage withthe upper ,
story, we have poured concrete foundation
and it' s the extra weight of these two
stories that has brought about the re-
quired work, those foundations just could
not hold the building.
MR. GERSH: I show you Exhibit #2 and ask you what is
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MR. WETHERBEE: This is the contractors estimate of
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redoing the walls of the garage and I
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there is correct.
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MR. GERSH: What is the figure that you received
from Taughannock Construction, Inc. to
shore up the garage and replace some
footings and so forth?
W. WETHERBEE: $2,162.74.
MR. GERSH: That is a bill which you are going to �
have to incurr because of this two-story
garage; and that is a bill which is some-
what of a hardship on an Associate
Professors salary?
MR. WETHERBEE: Yes.
MR. GERSH: Directing your attention to the exact
work that you propose to do, you indicate`
that you intend to put a studio apart-
ment upstairs, of approximate what size?
MR. WETHERBEE: I suppose about 20' by 201 .
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MR. GERSH: Where would access to that apartment be?
MR. WETHERBEE: Through our driveway.
MR. GERSH: With respect to parking, would parking
be entirely off-street?
MR. WETHERBEE: Yes it would.
MR. GERSH:
Is it correct that the only changes that
you intend are interior changes?
MR. WETHERBEE: Yes.
MR. GERSH: The diagram also there illustrates the
relative sizes of the property, first you
see a diagram showing the lot size and
you' ll see it' s an unusually large lot
for west hill and you can see in relation
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to the surrounding lots; also you will
see a diagram that Mr. Wetherbee drew
showing the approximate dimensions of the
driveway, the area for turn around, the
location of the buildings and their dis-
tance from the lot lines. In terms of
the work, would the work be performed by
licensed electricians and plumbers?
MR. WETHERBEE: Yes.
MR. GERSH: Have you worked closely with City Officia s
in planning this project?
MR. WETHERBEE: Well as I said, I checked it out with
Mr. Jones and I talked it over quite
intently with Mr. Dingman, simply because
he is my next door neighbor.
MR. GERSH: This is our second presentation to the
Board and did you comply with the require
ments of the Ordinance and send out notic s?
MR. WETHERBEE: Yes.
MR. GERSH: So that you sent two sets of notices
to the neighbors within 200' of your
property. Okay so these people have
gotten actually a double notice: and
have you heard any adverse comment what-
ever to your appeal?
MR. WETHERBEE: No.
MR. GM SH: Let me show you Ekhibit #3 and ask you
to describe to the Board what that is?
MR. WETHERBEE: This is a letter which Mr. Dingman wrote
to me prior to the April hearing of the
Board in which he spells out five condi-
tions on which he would have no objection
to our making the conversion and it' s
accompanied by a letter which I wrote
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back to him agreeing to comply with all
of these conditions.
MR. GERSH: In addition to Mr. Dingmans' approval
have you received a petition favoring
the project?
MR. WETHERBEE: Yes we had all the neighbors who were
affected by this and whom we went to
see sign a petition. I sent that to
Mr. Jones.
MR. GERSH: Is it part of the record?
CHAIRMAN MARTIN: It is downstairs in the prior file and is
a part of the last case.
MR. GERSH: We ask the Boards' indulgence and accept
our word for it, that we have 42petition
signed by neighbors approving the project
we have letters from Mr. Dingman here and
we have a letter from Bob Miller who is
the neighbor on the other side of the
property also approving. In short there
are no neighbors directly or indirectly
connected to this property who have
voiced any objection whatever, the only
sentiment that' s been expressed is one
of approval and support. Now in addition
to what your neighbors have to say, did
the City Planning Director personally
u view the property?
MR. WETHERBEE: Yes he did. At that time he said it
seemed very acceptable.
MR. GERSH: So the Planning Director has said that
it' s satisfactory and I think for the
record that the Board is aware that the
Planning Board has twice recommended
approval of this appeal. Now with respect
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to uniqueness, fir. Wetherbee, over the
years have you looked throughout the city
to try to find a similar garage or carria e
house?
MR. WETHERBEE: Yes I certainly have been lately, it seem
to be between a garage and a barn I
haven' t quite figured it one way or the
other, it' s certainly not an ordinary
garage but I haven' t seen one that' s
even similar to it.
MR. GERSH: If I may Just summarize, I suggest that
we have here a case which meets the
standards for use and area variances in
terms of a unique situation. A situation
which is no fault of the applicant,
creating a hardship financially in terms
of a tax burden, insurance burden and
maintenance burden and I would underline
the last of those three in as much as he
is faced with a twenty-one-hundred-dollar
bill to shore up these foundations because
he has this huge monstrosity building on
his lot. We have a situation where the
property is not usable for any other use,
it' s lying there vacant. He plans to do
the work in a quality fashion, hardly
amateurish doing it right with professional
people, architect, plumber, electrician.
He has received help from Mr. Dingman and
Mr. Jones throughout. None of the neigh-
bors have voiced any objection, in fact
the neighbors have voiced approval. As
you well know in matters of this kind,
neighbors are very sensitive to any
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here we have no objection whatever. In
fact the Planning Director says it looks
fine to him, the Planning Board twice
says it looks fine; in substance we have
no objection whatever to the proposal.
It is unique and we respectfully ask�Ahe,,
Boards consideration of this appeal and
thank you for your patience.
MR. GASTLIGER: Mr. Gersh I wonder as a lawyer if you
could comment on the Planning Boards'
recommendation can I read this to you:
"that the Planning Board recommend approval
of the variance, that such recommendation
is not to be construed as setting a
precedent for allowing secondary units in
accessory structures in R-1 zones." This
was a major concern of this Board the las
time we met, can you comment on this?
MR. GERSH: My interpretation of that language is that
the Planning Board doesn't want the granting
of a variance in this case to be construe
as opening the door to people building a
garage in their back yard and coming be-
fore the Board and asking to put an apatt
ment upstairs using this case as a prece-
dent. I think the Planning Board correct-Y
acknowledges that this is a very unique
case, we have here a structure built in
1914 which was there when we purchased
the property and it is not to be construe
that any person within an R-1 district
can simply put a living unit in their
garage based on the Wetherbee precedent.
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MR. GASTEIGER: I am wondering in your practice in law
how many times you have used such cases
as precedent, could you comment on this?
MR. GERSH: Yes, I would respectfully suggest that
if the Board sees fit to grant our appeal
that in its decision it make clear that
it does so based on the uniqueness and
the unique circumstances in this case
and when any lawyer in the future seeks
precedent for his case he looks to see
in what way that the facts are the same
and in what way the facts are dissimilar
and if the Board clearly states the
unique circumstances hhre I think that
any lawyer in the future would see that
this is not a case on which he could
rely unless his facts were exactly the
same or so close to it as not to create
any real differences.
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MR. GASTEIGER: With respect to the taxes Aindeed $100 per
year in taxes is going in payment for tha�
structure he has a right to appeal this
doesn' t he?
MR. GERSH: In other words it isn't equitable for the
assessors office to consider this a
potential living space, which it does,
and for this man not to be permitted to
use it as such.
MR. BODINE: Mr. Wetherbee, are there any utilities
in the building now?
MR. WETHERBEE: No, it' s wired for electricity and at one
time or another it had ventilation for a
stove.
MR. BODINE: Have you gotten any estimates on the cost
of putting an apartment in?
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MR. WETHERBEE: Yes we have, the very rough figure that
we have is $5,000.
MR. GASTEIGER: Mr. Gersh, Mr. Wetherbee cettainly knew
that that space was there when he bought
the property, I mean is there something
unique that' s happened since he bought
the property?
MR. GERSH:+ The property has deteriorated through no
fault of his own, through the weight of
this structure and through water run-►off
and drainage problems to such an extent
that he now has to put some twenty-one-
hundred-dollars into that place, he is
paying additional insurance, additional
taxes and so forth without getting any
return. It is a much larger structure
than what he needs and it represents a
substantial financial hardship. Let me
say that the deviation from the require-
ments of the Ordinance are very slight;
in other words, the two deviations which
we are asking the Board to allow are the
side yard set-back which is 10' in an R-1
and we have 5-point something and the lot
size is required to be 15,000 and we have
almost 14,000 so the deviation is not
v that great.
CHAIRMAN MARTIN: Any other questions from the Board?
None.
MR. GERSH: I would ask if I may ,just for a matter
of record that the petition, the letter
from Bob Miller and the certificate of
mailing also be made part of the record.
CHAIRMAN MARTIN: That concludes the hearing for this evening
and we will now go into executive session.
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EXECUTIVE SESSIONt BOARD OF ZONING APPEALS, CITY OF ITHACA9 JUNE 3
1974
APPEAL NO. 1049:
MR. MARTIN: I move that the requested use and area
variances be granted.
MR. BODINE: I second that.
FINDINGS OF FACT:
1) Upon the evidence presented it appear
that the two-story structure is much
larger than is required for use as a
garage and which includes space which
was previously used for residential
purposes and this additional size
of the structure imposes necessary
burdens of maintenance on the owner
considerably in excess of those of a
mere garage;
2) The location of the structure and
its design and the apparent adequacy
of the off-street parking and the
evidence of support from adjacent
owners all indicate that the proposed
use would not adversly effect the
neighborhood;
3) The main house and the structure in
question were both erected prior to
zoning and compliance with the area
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requirements of the Zoning Ordinance
cannot be achieved reasonably and
the deficiency is slight;
4) The proposed use variance only permit
what would otherwise be permitted as
a smaller rental unit in the main
house to be located in a detached
structure, in all other respects
R-1 use limits must be complied with.
VOTE: YES - 6 NO - 0
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C E R T I F I C A T I O N
I DARLEEN F. LISK, DO CERTIFY that I took the minutes of the
Board of Zoning Appeals, City of Ithaca, in the matters of Appeals
No. 1048, and 1049 on June 3, 1974 at City Hall, City of Ithaca,
New York; that I have transcribed the same and the foregoing is a
true copy of the transcript of the minutes of the meeting and the
executive session of the Board of Zoning Appeals, city of Ithaca,
on-the above date, and the whole thereof, to the best of my
ability.
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Senior Stenographer
Sworn to before me this
D day of 1.9�
MAFY E. BENSON Pio. 55 5270900
Notary Public,Stag of New York
Qualified is Tompkins County
Mq Commission bVins AArd 30.1!
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