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HomeMy WebLinkAboutMN-BZA-1976-04-05 POA7-T) OF 70FTNG APP. _AP ,LS, CITY OF TTFIACA , CITY FALL, TTT-TAC.A N77f:T YORK APDTT, r; 1976 A regular meeting of the Board of Toning Appeals, City of Ithaca, was held in Common Council Chambers, City Fall, Ithaca, New York on April 5, 1976. PRF,qFNT: Peter Martin, Chairman C. Murray Van Marter Gregory Vasprzak Rega Wood Martin Greenberg Fd7ar Gasteiger Edison Jones, Dep. Bldg. Comm. and Secretary Chris Smith, Recording Secretary Chairman Martin opened the meeting listing members of the Board present. The Board operates under the provisions of the Tthaca City Charter, the Tthacp Zoning Ordinance and pertinent provisions of Ne-Ar York State Law. Our hearings are not bound by strict rule of evidence but we do ask that all who do speak limit their remarks to the issues that are before the Board and do more than simply say ��Thether they are for or against a particular action but try to focus on the nart.i-cular question that the Board has to deal with in granting or denying the requested relief. We ask that all people who do speak, identify themselves by name and address, that they come forward in front of the room and our proceedings has those who are speaking on behalf of the requested appeal speak ifirst those who are sneaking in opposition to the requested relief speak second. We go through all the matters on the Boards agenda for the evening and then adjourn to go into executive session. to deliberate on the cases then return into public session to announce the results. Mr. Secretary what is our first case? Mtn . JON7,9: Mr. Chairman, the -first ca-se is appeal 1102 the appeal of Paul T. TTard for area variance under section 30.25 col. 13 at 1202 Bridge Street in a R-2 use district held over from the December 1, meeting 1975 and Attorney Yanof is here to present the case. ATTORNEY YANOF: Members of the Board, Mr. Martin, Mr. Jones and Mr. Shapiro my name is Elizabeth Yanof and I represent Gladlys, and Paul I-lard on Bridge Street and we are here before the Board tonight to seek a building permit directly from the Board of 7oning Appeals City Law oursuant to Section 35 of the General T passed out a 1 sketch of the nrorerty in question T. beliei.re there is a copy for everyone .or at least within site of everyone. T I d like to give just a little bit of a. background even though it may be a bit repetitious for some members of the Board who were here necember 1 when ?ire apneared on that date, but T shall be brief. Last fall_ the Wards desiring to build a garage went down to the Ruildin_r Commissioners office to get a. bi.zil_di n7 permit and then they made the unhappy discovery that the garage which they wished to build. Pt the -rd of their did not arpAa.r to be within the bolindari.es of their property as described on their deed, nor infact�, did their (Jri_i,r-w zr. T think that the man thpt you haire i_r 'front I r trpL7 .,rill iodinate 11iat a.l_thotlszh +h_e dr7_ZrP�Aray is there where irou can ima�-inQ a drives^.ray from ':�ridp e Street to the nrorocPd- mara_ge a.rpears to ao into the area known as Treva Avenue. The guest; on arose what to do about this rroblem and it seemed at the time that the easiest solution to the problem z.ras for the '''arils to r,ay at a nubl _c auction enou-h of that area Desi gnatPd_ a.s Treva. Avenue on the mar to them to ha7re the boundaries to their land i-ell within the area in which they wish to build. the garage. There was a misunderstanding about this procedure. The T,�Tards were lead to believe that for a nominal sum they could buy a tri_anpular stri n of land. you car_ imagine where it would be but one side being on Bridge Street and going back to what is Treva. Ave. on that map. The nominal sum the Wards found out shortly before the auction came close to ^700 and it was nrohibitivly PXnensive for them to 7o ahead ?nd make that bid at the publi.c auction. At this roi_nt T -►as retained by the T^rard.s and the ouestio _ arose wns there any other wair to proceed in this case? And that was when section_ -75 of the General City Laub oras investigated by >>s. Ply interpretation of that lew is that where there is a nrorosed street or maned street on a city man that has been there S - - for at least 10 gears but which has not been used by the City and when it is on land to which the City has not acquired title, then_ the Board of Zoning Appeals may grant the building permit for a structure to be placed on that lard. Again it' s my understanding that that portion on that sketch map which you have which is labeled Treva Ave. , itis unouestionably on the City maps as a ( street but as many of you may know it appears to be a strip of grass land with some trees on it at the moment. Tt has never been used and it is my understanding there is no intention of the Cities using it. Now the ouesti_on becomes, has the City acquired title to that stri_n of land? PT . MARTTN: May I interrupt you for a moment. Nas it been maped as Treva Atrenue for 10 years? MRS. VANTOr: Yes MR. M1rRTTN : Right, so that we are in that Section of Section 35. NRS. YANOF: Yes. uas the City acquired title to that land, is the next question. TIve examined the abstract of title covering the "Ta.rd_s -property and it also covers property to the North of the Wards infact it goes up to State Street which i-,could be on the right hand side off that map to the North. And there is no deed to the Citv of Tthaca of that property. ghat there is in the abstract is a right of way given to the City to lay a water main and if you examined the pronerty labeled Treva. Avenue on that sketch mar you leill see that that is infact where the water main has been placed. So it is our contention that this does fall within the two reauirements of section 35 of the rreneral City Law and that the Board does have the rower to issue a building permit directly to the 'Ja_rds. MR. MARTIN: Now, as T read Section 35 with the help of an opinion that we have from Mr. . Shapiro, Attorney for the City, it would be important for us to incuire about the title that the Wards have to that land which is covered by Treva Avenue on the man. Tt_,' s my impression reading Section 35 that it applies to property owned by private individuals, which is covered by a mailed street title to which does not rest in the City. Now you indicate that the deed which the Wards have goes up to the edge of Treva Avenue, right? . RS. YANOF: That' s correct. Now it' s our contention that the case law beginning with a case in the 19th century 1861, in the Court of Appeals of the State of New work indicates that when you own -property to the edge of a citir street, an unused city street, that you do in fact own title to the property to the center of that street subject to tre rights of the adjacent owners. So l' it is our contention that although the deed which describes the Wards boundaries only goes to the southern edge of Treva. Avenue their do infact own to the center of that street. MD. T�AOTTN: So relying- on that d.octurine irou arae that., they do • clea.Y'1_v have title sub.-iPct to t'he maned street and so it' s c1.Pa.rly wi_thi r our nowpr urd.er 75 to n�rart them the nermi t, T?T-Z:q, YAT\TOF: That+ s correct. �.�P • "APTTT\T: Are there miesti..ons rrpm members, of the ROa.rd? n ? , VA rpIF)7 A;V: cave you been ableto determine who actually owns the rih.t of wair for the water? Or who F;atre the richt of ti,ray to the City for that? J !TS, VANnp: Yes . T can tell_ you who gage the right of wa\r, -it t,ras cm�in 1.Q11. That mi_rrht not armArpr the question of who has the last deem to that m-onert✓r but the name of the verso- who p'ra.nted the riaht of way to +ho Iity in lgl..1. . . . . nlrp • VA.gPP7ATr• M"• Y nr F/rc �', ')id �rou follow it up and see ttirhether they acti)al_ly }lad the owne.rslin for +'he property or was somebody el8e the ow-rier"I T ?,Could assume th7.t i_f they gage the rirrht of ��ray that they T,rould be the owners. YANOT, : Tha.t' s correct. T7. 7ASDR7AK: Ok, 1,0hat happened to the property since that time? Who acquired the own^rsh _r.? Y A NOF: Z,r e ll , it is my gu e s s. . . . . . . . _TA_SP' 7ATr: Their still_ own it. y7-_,q. y�,,Tn7, : Their heirs would, or if their are still plive that they c t 'I l_ pT}m '.+,. TvT,?_• VAST 77AV: Their hers. MT? VATTO P: VaG; bee", 7sa �,�r1�.Pr� thr3y deeded r.roperty 1t aY1T)aarG that ajrp the right of tra.r to the r''ity they deeder,_ t after their.,ir cr � ., 71rr171ertir un to the orTae of 1,rha+ became the maned but unused street. MR • V _rPR7AT7- T T,roul ri assume thpt to be correct. See, they are the, true owners of the propertir, ho-, can the rity sell_ -it or T'`ow can we argue that we can ai ve you the rights to buil-d on it" MPS. YAMOF• ?Fell, T Hon_'t think that they are the true owners to the nronerty. T may have misspoke. Tt is my impression that they have not actually deeded it but the City has taken that strip of i :;land. and marked it as a street on its maps, E � IMP , rrn.SDR7PTT Ts it a designated. right of wpy. I jEPf'�,5, vr^.r.TnF: Yes, �'t . V Sp974T{: Ok that' s all T ��!antPd to know, thank you. r WOOD: �?ro deeded it ori-inally. . . . . . . . . . . . . . T mean are E j the TR'ards indirectly the people who inherited. it ? i pMRS. YAn?OF: The v^,ards are not connected, they are not descendant { of those people, i i I'PS. ?^'OOD: No not descendants but could they halre purchased. . . . . MRS. YA_NOF: Could they haire? f ,E E l;rIS, WOOD: Pid their? �3 IMR. MARTTT\T: As T understand hour argument their title traces to { E� i l�those people but the deeds th^.t their have only Fo up to the edge { I of Trei.ra. Avenue and your ar- )ment is that those deeds although E i1they on there face go only up to the edge of Treva. Ave. in fact ?nclude up to the middle. 1,7-9. v. ANOP: That is correct because it is a maned but unused - - I I1 City Street. • ± MR.S. WOO): Then it does trace to that people who in 191.1, granting H the right of ioay to the City. I� I PI Ps. vANOF: Yes. j I � MR. MARTTN; Are there further questions? Do you wish the Wards I Ito sneak? a IMRS, YANOF: T think only if there are questions that they could iianswer better. MR . MARTIN• Are there others who want to speak_ on this case, we 1 I j1do have the .Attorney for the City here this eveningand it might f I lhelp if there are not further who wish to speak on. behalf of this 1 lreouested. permit if we bad. the City Attorney now speak, _ I IMP . SNAPIRO: To me there are two questions involved hers: We Aave since the opinion T issued December 19th asked around a littl11 � E !1 bit and it aprears the portion of Tr-ira Avenue in questior. has i+been maned. for 1.0 years or more and it also appears as if the City has never formally acquired title to the property. On the law, , J I ( I'll disagree with Ms. Yanof citing an 1861 case that would give i Ithe Wards a title to the center of the street. A situation back i i 6 flin 1861 was certinly a lot different than now and it is my f i�ianderstanding that the area up thare was owned at one point by one Ijindividual and the portion of Treva Avenue that we are talking about was supposed to eventually become a city street for purposed I � of further develon_ ment. Tt seems to me, T haven't researched the i ititle because T don't think that it i_s encumbered uron me to do Iso, but it seems to me from i4hat STs. Yanof has said and what is ,! ,-one on before in this proceeding that the portion of Treva Avenue 11that we are talking about the complPte title to that resides in ' somebody other than the Wards. Tt must reside in whoever owned l it in 1PIl and or their heirs, distributees, assignees, successors + or what have you. Tt would be a fairly quick matter to go into y the Court Nouse, T suppose, and taking a look at who owned that portion of Treva Avenue in 1911 it could be searched forward to until 1976 to see in fact.,, if they ever did deed it out. So T jump off a+_. the premise that the "lards do not own tb.a.t portion of i TrAtra. Avenue. And. my understanding of Section -�5 of the general f! r 1 City T,aw, would require a in roth the first raragraph which states it exprpsslir and in the second paragra.uh wbich T 'm of the � opinon can be construed to require that any Hermit given by this Board. in a matter such Ps this , must be or shoiiild be given to the 1yerson 1,,,ho is the oimer of the rro-nerty. Tn this case_ , specifi_csT y p I� if on Toolk at the fi_rgt p racrrp-p�) it can Pxrresc renui rpm- ent. Tr. i Ith.e second. case T think rPa.din7 the entire se^,tion together, it j would also reauirQ that the applicant T)P the owner of the nronPrty inn_rd6n tp cpt a n.nrPmi_t to build on the nropert.v. Tr my opinion G that on pecember 101 T believe T asked that sr.ecific question and I + ! certainly poi n tP..d out that it would be required in my opinion. T ! 1 differ with nqs. Yanof in certain respect to whether or not the j1_861 case iroiild, ai_ve the W-1-rds arnr ri rrht in TreVa Ave. whatsoever ' ! There is rinot;l�er point though that T rli r? rai_ca an(j T _O ti r-r�rl it _. _ - ' being, r'isci_i.gsera in t1le mid Utes of the T)er-Pmbpr l_st ?neet _r- of the !I R7 , an,' that i.-q some of the actions of the 81.50 t p t T referred. Ito in my memo that T +bink that the ('i_•t Jr i s entitled to. The ,irholn hi_story of the case ind.icntes that th.p W—rds nriainall.v i approached the City requAsting to bui_1_d their pr. opogpd ga.ragP fl l� 7 IS 'i �! T1rettir much as they laid. out on this map. The letter originally went to Mr. Dingman and he sent the letter on to me asking me i what the Citv could do, if the City could go ahead and. sell it or ! P what. T _responded to him and this was in about June or July of last, year and. said. iif the City were to sell it thertd. have to � 1 � ) discontinue the street 2) declare the land as surplus and I i` � !� �) get an appraisal and auction it off to the highest bidder setting a minimum bid at the appraised value plus the cost of I� the appraisal and the cost of advertising. T did state in that I letter also that a permit was nArmi ssible and. T was atrare of P " f rection 75 of the ('eneral City Law, but since their were talking i about a germinate structure T th.o?zqht perhaps they might rather i r own the property or at least own whatever the City could give i� them, with respect to the property. At that time the 7,1a.rds were represented bi, p.obert "'illia.msorr., of Mazza , Williamson and Clune nff_ice and it was his determination and what he communicated to me was that they had made the determination to go ahead and buy i the property at auction_ and we should- go ahead. and get the i appraisal made. 17e did go ahead and get the appraisal made and iiit cost us ""125, and we also went ahead and advertised the public ! 1 auction which cost us another '15 or '20. The appraisal_ came P back and much to eirerybodies chagrin or surprise it stated. a i value of the 8 foot section or strip of Treva Airenue to be of a value of ``500. This when added to the cost of the appraisal_ and I I the adirertj sing Brough+., the minimnzm bid un to about " 650. Just., j 'i before the auction, _T_ was made PuIrare th& r. Williamson no longer l IP E represented the Wsrds and now T, s. Yanof represented the ?^cards. PI I And T .,gas asked what T thought they should do since they felt � v I that `°''700 or ""650 was an awful lot of money to spend for an 8 j foot strip. T suggested that if nobod,r else bid at the auction, ! that it just wouldn't be sold and then they could go ahead an applir to the R7A for a permit. T exrressly stated at that point though, that T would expect the ?dards prior to obtaining a permit from the City to reimburse the City for its out of pocket expense$ �j which were incurred specificall-y at the instance of the Wards through their Attorney, Mr. Williamson. That' s whtr in my memo of 4 Ij Iij ii i' j 'december 19th i've asked that T �roul_d. hope, t.,hat before the 7�7h- j �Iconsiders the mrantinj7 of Pmr permit, that the -payment of "'1 .90 i� Or nerhans it i_s 145 whatever, be made by the ?Wards to the r _ty (' for o131 of rocket exnenses of which halre been incurred at their I i_nstpnce, co here is two thinmc T sunnose 1) that TIM of the �I Ii oni_nion that the a-ds do have the burden to shoii, that their are the owner of the norti.on. of TreiraI .Aire. anon l hich they Trish the- Ijm--t, and 2) -if thPlr Can show s?ich ol,rr?.ershin t; to the sei sfactiol t' - i 41 of the Board, the Poard ma-r r-rant the nermi_t in its discretion, i II I'i1,i.t T Gr()til_� r Pr+a _n.l_tr 1-�rtna -f-1np_fi +,}fin �?r�ard T,rnitld reaui�e the i payments of the city of_ the out of pocket expenses. T think that th-e ri_ty h.as been constant in its Position -in this matter and if ?! there was anis misunderstandin- on anybodi_es part it !'.prtai_nly v•ac I i not brovqh+, on btr an�Thin7 +hp . said. _+ +hA �_ tTr I nP,^+ai_ l_Zr ramom}i , �i ii mjr rli_s(`1)cSi_pn1Z T,Tj fh 'Jr. T"Ti_ll i_amson a+ the time, and when he as'-1 i! me ),,r Mich T troilaht the bi ddira rrir'e T,n,31d be, T responded � f Ij that T did. not know, that T knew that it would be at least the H cost of the pnrraisal_ T.rhi ch would be "125 plus adirprtisin cost, i 11 -nl_us wh.atP,.rer the land is tarorth and I had. no idea what that wes j worth p.nd. that is i,rhy the were having an annraisal mp-de. Wh.pt he €€ if I may n TFr I or mar not have omreyed to the arils, is certain7_jr beyond my kn_oi ledme but �rhen the '7i+-Nr is dPpling with neorie who arm 1 renr-sPnted her an attornelr, all can do i_s deal with the ft attorney and hone th?t. he "=veyq -.YPctTv wii!?t ir? hpv- sp.i d. to Tf +_.h.e-e Pre r')11v ri,otPc+i_nnc abniitSection 7i5 renerai _ , of the I II ri_ty T,aw T n0-ti_.,ed at. +1',e Por Amber l_st meetina there i,Tern.. clot i � of aiiPstirl-_s 9 T t,� be }i'-'n-nmr to anS?,ror them. ?^,1(i(1T1- T h_aSrP, foti.r oUp,do -s G Ar.i f l.r`c't.�.�Sr, Ynii ref-r-ed at i +1-)-e first; npr+ of your discussion to two nrovisions of �eCtlOn �5,i i T1 like to haire you cl_arifir iehat they are, second. . . . . . . r,'P g11ADT�(1: Let me take your Dues+] Ons one at a. time. OM t I 'ention 35 of the, General ri tv T_1pir i_s written in t,,ro parar,raphs. i .i The first naramreph starts orviously lead_inq up to action. The i second raramranh bemins on the next na e. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . �! Thr, `.�')OT): ":T?i_ch. is bpir.Z cut off our Corrie~ . j n?n . TinDipO: T belie�re if you flip it. over, ok, the difference I F! - f j i ' 4 6 E � r. + ni �_S t0 a l_a?-+crr� c�t'�pl1t, that in_. the f'i-- � � _ 8T'agra1J�- the. owner has i �J 4 A to show that without the permit, he can not o;et a r-a-sonable IE return on hi-s lased. And it doesn't require that the street be I� shown on a official map or plan for 10 years and it doesn't ! E require that the city has not acouired title. There is two � I slightly different provi_si_ons T i,,rould Gay though taking both of ! them together that even on the second provision, that it would I� seem to me that any applicant for a permit still would have to be the owner of the land in ouestion and he just would not have I I to show whether or not it would ield to a reasonable return. ! MPS. I^TOOn: Alright, you've answered two of my questions, the third and fourth are why do you think that it is in our province i to determine who ot}ms the property in question and secondable I i what Board of 7oni_ng Appeals could possibly say about reimbursing i � f the city for its advertising costs. ,f �! lflP . SuAPTRO : ti`rell, if I think that it is encumbant upon the Board ! of Public 1R'orks to have proven to its satisfaction_ that the Wards are the owners of the ?property in questi_on !� TJR . MAPT71\T: You mean the Board of 7oninq- Appeals i l i P,TP. SK.APIP.O: 7ycuse me, the Board. of Toning Appeals, that the �f i,,ards are the owners of the property in question, it would seem to me that it' s encumbant upon the Roard- and before the Board can. grant a permit, it would have to ?,e able to make such a determination. CD i! Tt is also true that in cases such as this , the b�_zrden of showing li - . I such things in this case ownership, should be on the applicant 4 's rather than on the RZA, certainly has no way of its own other- ' than to ask me to research the title, who owns the property, T ii !° think that it is in the _record already that the orl-,r claim of the �.^'girds +.n the property is in the alliance upon a 1861 case, which ,I in my opinion .from what I've heard, has no application in this ,i matter. T think somebody and whoever that somebody is, is the I grantor to the City of the right of way in 1911, that somebody is I' ( Still probablir the ournPr of fie of vThat is called. Treira A`re. up j i jthere, and unless he has conveyed it out and wp will assume that ! 11be is dead or she' s dead., T would assume that they are heirs and (I I' that they own the property. a �i 1 r?T , V,APTI-N: Can I follow that third. question of Ms. Trlood- out. 11While following your a.nal_ysis of the section we ought to 2sk for ; some showing that the person who is seeking_ such a permit is the I downer, this is a poor body to determine highly technical questions ► i o.f_ title. Surely even if we are nersua.ded that the 1`ra-rds have Ititle that would not be determinative if the heirs of that whoever ? I it is Y party in 1P11, same fongard. later and_ challenged our I� decision. "o, T wonder if what oTe shouldn't do is be reasonably s � nersuaded that the party in question has a claim, _reasonably claim. ! to ownership, and then proceed on the assitintion that, their are I owners , leari_ng them the ultimate worry about whethe- they are the ii htrue owners. . . . . . . . . I 7R-, gTJP-PIPO: That certainly is a noC8iblp wp r tr1 r��^Ot�f e[1 � T mi Cbt ` y _ add. teat the exact same di scuss on took place between. "2 . '.TilTi_amscjn li i1 2nd me last JUr.e PrO _TUl-tr ar1.d tha4-1 S -t -1 whir the decision aS i1made back then for them to take a nui_ek claim from the rity. . . . . . I' TJP. r%TApTTTT: Fut that would not haire rP�.ned them amainst the I� heirs of t. I IM PW • 1,rell e mon hat t1-, C,i_i-+Ir 11a S been rnai ntei n n t11 . x., _ t t_ e ir� e ;i nronp—tir Un there for a. number of years and i_t was thought that there might be a ^?.ai_m of ad-verse nosCPssi On. T 7'. WARP: We have been maia_:r.._rg th a+ property. T- �ePmTnT: 1Tell-, ok lets com plete our ai estioning of Mr. Shan, ro 1 and then we 1,,7i7LT give the "-rd.S arld their 2ttnrne,r a chane fpr i anir -2hllttal. fi Trtr C 1ATnPT1• TYiP �.aGt nll(-st:i on um-, T,rhy; i e it in the province. Of t1)(- i i III E, Rnard of ?orri_np, Appeals to grant relief to the ri_ty for its Ax_penses n the financing of this nubli c auction? i Sur,DTnn• 1,Tbir is it in the n_ olince of the Board of 7o.._in l T igoUl_d hon- -personally tbpt. before. the R?n grants r-lief on j an arrl cation which 1S discretionary to grant, that ..the B7�q € hvrould take into consideration the amount of work and the amount f i. of money that the City of Ithaca of which the B74 is a Board, at ii ; the Pxpress inst,ancP of the anrlicant T think that it is only r 'i reasonable to a-sk for that, there was r_Azrer Prydoubt inan.Vhndi eS 11 mind at. le2st not in my mind, or Mr. " illiamson' s mind that the z 1 ! f3 only reason +.he apprai_sa1 of the property was being, made uras to j sell__ the same at a public auction and that the only people who 4 were interested in the property up there and the only reason that II it -was all beim done was to accommodate the 7;,rzrds. n-c. 1,Tnnn: T can see that it is reasonable, but why is it 1,,rith.i_n i ' our. power? ITSF? , Sue pT PO; T'' f r• , _. _ _ ell, it' s within hin your power in my opinion to acauir that the e1150 be paid. to the r it,r or not before you grant a permit 11,!hich is within your discretion to grant. T think that it is a ' , reasonable condition that the R7A is certainly able to lay down ia.s a condition_ precedent to granting a permit, D7. M.'!RTTM: The Board has to my recollection never in the past i on a variance or other discretionary relief asked for money to be � ppid to the city, as a condition to the variance. Is this somehow ) different from a variance? MM rHAP R. 0: T think it is. This isn't th.e_ variance for one. I 11 7 P., NWA.RTTN: Put it is also discretionary relief alright as you. . . I. IITAR• SH4PIn0: Tt is discretionary relief which is being asked of the City through. a Board MR. MARTiN: eight S??APiPO: After the arplica.tion has already requested the CI_ty � to do something when the pity has done something which entailed I 1� the expenditure of public _funds. Now believe me and T say this ' .I in all candor, for the amount of time that T'jre put into this 1 thing since June or July, T would have rather raid the P150 myself,i I� 'Rut don't take me up on that. T really feel that the principal City has asked probably glom the lines � involved here in teat the � _- _ f ' ! of about 7 or 4 times a year, to discontinue parks and public streets and to sell them at public auction. Every time we do that f � we do it with the ta.cid understanding and in good faith, on the ibelief that when the public auction -is being held the rerson that H !jreouested. the auction in the first place, would be there with the s !a I ji money to bu-Nr the nroperty. Now here we have the situation where the arpra.isal came back a little higher than what they had j Ilanticipated and instead of going ahead and dolr_g that which their I! had requested, it seems to me that the ', ard.s are now backing up an 'i li 12 fsaIrir.g w-11 sine it i_s going to cost " 650 we will no-,r ask for jus+ a nermit which won't cost us a cent and it is too bad_ that the i y i I�City spend the `1'150 but such is luc4, it is not worth it to us. I ! 1Tt seems to me that the R7A has the rower and T think the responsi , I lbil_ity to make certain thatany expenditures of City funds for thel s j +purpose of selling; rublic lands when they are eVnended. at the i! express request of an applicant for a hermit, T think that the R7n has an obligation and. duty to the City of Tthaca and the tax i`naye_rs of the City of Tthaca to require that tba t money be reimbursc ed Ito the City before any hermit is gi-en. p ._ i j PR. G? 7NBFnr._: Ts the nermit that t.,,e would grant automatically IactI as a quick claim by the Citv. . . . . . . . . TIP . SPAPTPO : No, a nermit would simnly permit them to build a. � garage on that bort;or. of the demar,ed_ na_rt of Treva !`venue as i_t now stands whi-ch. tb. ,- grant to build in. The original_ owners or people -who could sell_ good title to the nronerty came alon7 F rithin j a 10 -Nrear neriod fromm the time the 1,!ards built their proposed j r7arage there, T would imma,P;ine there would be a law suit in the p� t jform of a declaratory. . . . . . . . . . . . II � TJT . 1VIAPTTM: 01- if the Cit?r coulr1. show that it had title by a0vorsr� ii-nossessi-nn. . . . . . . . I �M , ^.T-T SPT-10: That +n0 TIT , T1TA7TTnT: Our *rant of a nermit not be bi r�d.i_rcr on the i-r. that. evert. I i r:?P , 17-T p ren . That tn0 uq� )R7Au• T have a otT _ek nu�stior. Lets a.ss,zme that we know who the owner isa_s d it, the ^i.tir hdesignated as a r. iFht of -orayowner for j a future road. Does the City OisPose of this riesio-rati-on aq SUC`h _ _ i a.s yet, officia.l..ly +hat i.c? r^r cHADTPn : That norti.or of Treva Avprlie according to mgr p tion Ttti,jc11 j_g �l_.cpl{ a ilii a T)(-)i- ..,ac rliscont rl7ed- a_nd n1 , i__,?.to ciirrilt]s �_ard. ht* "(,mm�r rntmr.il_ t - thW �ar; diScontn -10 lt i n"pK1eDP7AV: You would i_r,terpret that the Citv -,o,lld thrnuc- ,r t1 the desi enation of the ri-ght of r• ii "P . A DTPs: Tt i_S dema-ped. TSP , TT.nSpP7nu• uow do they propose to aet to the vra.ter line once i j I� I I I� �;somethin7 goes wronrr? 'I T°TT- STA-°'IRO : The City r.aG P. ri 7ht of wRy of that portion of R'rE?tra I i A,,re. that we are talking about to mPintai.p the ,Tater line. i ' rn'? TIgCpR7 K: TTianlr zrntZ. i rrP , T4ARmT1\T; nk, if we are finished- =with nuestions for r"r, Snari.rn, _ i rP?^hars Nq. Yanof irnh_i 1latrc goTno -fiirtI-,nr thir£rg to ari(i . f • Vp vAT\Tnr+ ; T t ri like to +p T.'r. rPsnonr? Sb.a.riro' s two points.0ne about +,he ownpi —i n and +.he other ahnut the '�I.�in, T rip not dispa-re !' 14ith Mr. Sl'hani rp tha4- tlni n prs PrP r)pt +F1P camp 2g +Yio✓r were i rl l F��jl fi_n. many respects however, first of all tyre rev rPl�ri.nrf on one �,p 1 lghl case for +.he nrornsi_ti on thet wben your deed brinras your Inroperty to the Pcl-e of a ma-ped b?h.t unused city street that ;rou own to the center ­e. PrP rPlyi_nP on a series of cases which begin prith a. 1861 II case, which T han_ nened to hasre with e ard TIm not I� 7oin_g to read Plot from the case but T'm aoina to simnly o.Uote one J � eVcArnt 14hi ch T think makes it clear that the situ?tipn in that w ir-pse was exa.etllr the situation in this case. There �,rere P number • I i of lots 1"rbi ch bad teen deeded from a 1Prge area. and the court said that tie simple f_th?Pfiti_on then is whether a con-eypnce of a. lot (bounded on a piece of around thus laid out on the map as a street i Hand called P street but which is not in fact, a ?public street or I ii lihiahway carries the grantees to the middle of the street arra the 1P,ns-rer the court gave wRs ire-, and that wp.s just the beginning of a li se-ies of. cases. T didn't come rrerared< 'with a memo of lavy but T think in the absence of some case overturning that or some indication that the cases hailre not as is our contention_ none in that direction. f 3 T',Te have come for�Arard -rich our at, least, indication that there is a � I !I claim to that land by the Wards . I YIR . K2_SnR7Au: That would be the claim to the center of the right I of -way would only be true if the land. owned in the right of way • originally belongs to the a.dlacer_t owner or buying owner. __T r_ this narticu.l_ar case l"Te don't knots Tho the owner of the richt of wav is and. that is vorbere the issue is, T believe. NPS. VAFOF: T don't think that that., is true. � i WR. TKASPRZAK: ?Nell, T'm not a la7q<rer So tba.t T can argue tb.at I Hnoint but T think that T'm riaht, that the right of way only ,s r li 14 'lbelone_�s to the o-kA.mer if he originally owned it and granted the I right of way to the City. I j vANOF: That is true i,�rith the time that the origina_1. oirrner I deeds out lots which exclude any _reference to that portion of th.e to ffland wbi_ch is later called the street but then they sell those 'dots and as the Lots are sold the ownership to the center of the Iiimaned but unused street passes along with the title to the lot. A !; to the second question about the `-15C, T would like to make it :i very clear that the Wards had no fraudulent intent ?qhatsoever and ' that' s lghv T said Arhen T first stood un here that there was a limisunderstanding because it seems to me that that is the best way to describe what hannen.ed . The T�Tards were. led to believe for Isome .reason and T don't know exactly what the sArords that led them j to believe this rarer- but they were led to believe that the easiest ii1�.tair to solve this problem wps to buy that stri?) of Land and they H !i wPrp also led to believe that it �,,,ould be for a. nominal sum. i `? Arpraising that triangular piece of land at '"500, nuts a value ., j Hof an acre of land somewhere around nineteen thousand dollars and s ''' T don't think that anyone immapined that it 1,rould be that much. i ,! And it simply became r_robibitive but when the ".Yards did not proceed j; to buy that 1ar_d at the auction they i•teren't trying to cheat the ; City out of their "I r-;0 and T can strmnathize Arith Mr. Shapiro I s desire that the City be reimbursed but my question is why the 1,!ard�. i �i T mean, T don' t think that, it was the T^'arils fault, T don't think is that it wps the Cities fault. T -i�ToUld also like to clarify one point that might need cl-arifying. That is that the City does not ;i ma i r_ta i_n that stri.n of lard, The ?'hard s now mow it and the Tr+ards j alonn- with the nei�-h.bors on the other Side of that strip, paid to r 'i ihave a tree taken dovrn. There has been no action to aCqt_u _ e title I -- or to establi sb +T,Pt. +hP ovreners have or that the ad acen+_. landr i; Oi^rners have ar,gU.i_T'ed title by adverse nOGfieGSi On, Ri,t I k Or fact doasr ' t mai_rtair that stria. 1jTVM n,RnRr"TT\i' Are +here arV flzrthAr rlur�et-j_ons -in this rpsr' froY!. H _ �imembers of the poard. 11 T,7 S. 7,�,.NTOP: "'p-'rbe "r, ''a rrl, wog zl_d you like to add aryt3�i_n to 'jwb!Pt T sai_rl. about t'he ma.1r?+erarnre? l 1 �E 1E .'77 . ,.TART,• Tri fp<(t ,.ro arra our n-i_ahhors i,-?re inforr?P_rl ',y P, re-p"ca- f GPrtative of the 7- _tv that +hey i,,r,-re not o-oi_n- to maintain it I antrmore arfl theft ,,P ,YPrp trO4rc,' to I acre tri arir? +her(-, -,rps q (qp,-cl ! �Itree on the n-onp,+v P I(l "7,- ar�r,rna(1l the -.I tir -qnd were i nformPCl i by the ri_tjr +hpt i_f �qp t•rpntcO the +roA rrmnuer3 .,rP wprA croi_-n- +p fir) r1a-�r to �)!n!lrP i '}' rPmOtrF+rl i TM' RR^P'PTr.T, IT-Rnk you. TG th-r, nry flirthPr testi mon- on t1�i c EE� ? 711 + -,t r_ .ce r bepri_na or 1.1.02_. I case l l�? . _..en .h-, „ cc__n1_ud _ our C� 4 ! !� I I I i; i! • 'i i I l I �i I� !f i H i EE I E 1 ;E f s� i i li i' E i ii 'I i Trrt-TBnARD OF 7ONTNG A17PPALS, CITY OF A(7 A -I',YEr7TTTTIT7 97SSTO�T OATrIPTL c;, 107,r, A PP7A L 1102 'Jr. Martin mo-vpd to d,?nir rpliefreoiiest(n.-H. ir r 170P un(9er Sr?ction 1175 of the npnerp.l City T,a,,r. Rpsis for that motion Is that if the !I I 7T,Tprds infpct ovrn the nrorprty on which they wish to build the Igarage, a question i.,Thich the Roared. does not 1-indertakp to rpsolvp, their c I lo not reouire P nermit under Section 75 since the testimony indicates that the area is nn longer clesi-gnated for P street. 17r. Kpsrrzak seconded the motion. vnrT,,: yes No 0 Aprl ication has been rleni -d. ii ii i ii i ii If Ei if It if BOARTI nF 7ONTNC— APPEALS, CTTY OF TTHAr_4 s rTTy TTLIT,T., TTHACA s NFW YnpK, APRTL r, 1976 APPFAL 4 1110: The Appeal of James Bilinski for area variance under section 30.25 Cols. , 4, 6 and. 13 at 207 Stewart. Avenue in an R.-3 use district. NIR. STFiN: My name is Stuart Stein and T live at 1018 F. State { Street. I'm the present owner of this piece of property and Mr. Bilinski is the appellant, if that is the legal term. . . . . . MR. KASPR7AK: You are the appellant since you are the owner. MR. STFIT\T: No, Mr. Bilinski is the appellant with the approval signed by me. I 'll explain the circumstance. Mr. Bilinski is her with legal counsel to speak in a minute. However, T thought that since T am the owr er o-' the property and have lived at this addres for 10 years that some of the background circumstances would best be related by me because I do believe some of the background cir- cumstances hwe some bearing in the case. T lived there as I men- ( ti or_ed. 10 years and prior to that 7 years within 150 feet of this property at 612 M. Seneca Street. In this neighborhood as many of you know, the lower east hill neighborhood which is described in the information tht has been riven to you, is in the neighbor- hood of some change and some interest in the community. Among the number of efforts over the years that have been undertaken and I've participated in these to a certain extent. Can you hear me i alright? There has been an attempt to improve the neighborhood and to keep a mixture of families, students, elderly and young couples in the area. `Tow, T moved there with R. young family, four children, was interested in the neighborhood school, living near Cornell and downtown, enjoyed the neighborhood.. After 13 years my family grew un and T've just moved recently a year and a half ago. T undertook the process of attracting, attempting to attract another fami_17r to this house. This house ,.!hen T bought it was a rooming house, it has approximately ,Ono so . feet of land in it, of space in it. Tt is on a lot that was laid out before the turn of the century at what time T do not know, Tbelieve the house was built in 1900 and T feel .reasonably sure that, it is w.1-thin a few years of that. The house ids large, it is one of those large old houses that exist i_n areas like this in many other areas, in •nlaces close to the center of downtown. Tt served my family -ell in convey+i_n�- it back from a rooming house to a single _family � house but my family t,ras reasonably large and- maybe it teas an un- usual_ family in tris case and now T '-NrP mo-Ted and have attempted to sell- it to another family. i -_ rePP»l­d ;r the annlira+i nn some bp.+ this �,- _ PSridencP t_ attempt was maple through the so1. nol_ and. � _thr oiaqh fletosnprer advertisements and the fart of the matter is that it is a Targe house and that most families do not urish to undertake responGibili tv of a_ house t ith -4,000 so . ft. Tt also is a house that does not have narking and there are particular circumstances involved around that. Tt is unique in that sense, within 200 feet of this house there is no other house except for one portion of the Schramm' s house which i_s dust uTithin 200 feet that has the same circumstances teat this holzse ha.s. There is no way absolutely to fain access to this nropP.rty with an automobile.. The sidewglk is L feet above the arate of the gtrAet and the house itself is another four or si_Y .feet above the wits the exception of possibly a crane or a derrick to lift a car up on the site. There is no other way of getting access and T thought about that but T felt., that that would be somewhat urreasorable to undertake. So we lived there i%,ithout parking, T have two cars T rented a garage nearby and parking space is available nearby. It has sever_ bedrooms, lilring room, dining room, kitchen_, two baths and it_. is a fairly large house. At any rate those are the circumstances at this time, T still ourn the house. T hazre a purch=ase offer on it from Mr. Rilinski and his 1ATife, a young couple who wish to move into this house. Ouite naturally they do not feel that they can occupy that much synace. They want to live in the neighborhood by choice, they feel that it is interesting to them ,just as it was to me, as a place to live. Tt is quite reasonabl.v for them to feel that they wish to put another apartment in there to help carry the costs and so they have proposed that a.n apartment be made of the upper floors and they live in the bottom floor. That means that it becomes a two family house. It is an R-7 district which permits multi family use. The use is not a matter of concern here, it is a permitted use in this district, what is a matter of concern are three items which are listed on the appeal. One is that we i 1 are requesting an area lrariance. ?''e are requesting a. parking variance and there is a question about side lot which is 4 feet instead of the reouired 5 feet. Let me take those points up very quickly one by one. The first point about the area variance is a matter of some interest concern, an irony to me because the Zoning Ordinance as it is now written was written and revised by the Planning Board of which some of you may know I'm a member. T've been a member of the Planning Board for some 5 years and one of the responsibilities of the Planning Board over. those 5 years was to revise the 7oning Ordinance. I participated in rewriting this section of the Ordinance, it must be three years ago at no reference to what is before you at this time. There are two point. involved in this question, one is legal lot size which at the time in an R-3 district before the Ordinance was revised, I believe was 5,000 sq . ft. After some study, the Planning Board decided that for many R-3 district, 5,000 sq . ft. lots were too large and. resulted in many non-conforming lots onwhich there were already many buildings of the age and vintage of this building in question, and that lot size requirement was reduced to 3,250 sq. ft. That was to set the legal_ lot size. Now the second auestion was the matter of density requirements and at that time I believe the density requirement were 1.500 sq. ft. Per family, per dwelling unit and for existing units that I believe was retained . So these were considered to be separate issues, that onee you have a legal lot size than you can put on that lot a 7250 sq. ft. the number of dwelling units of which 1500 sq. ft. could be divided into the total lot size. Which in this case in this lot would make this the area variance that is being requested here unnecessary. How- ever, we are requesting a variance because for another case under another circumstance at least a year and a half ago as T understand, a. petitioner was before Mr. Jones asking a question. He came to me as a member of the Planning Board and said, what did you intend- to ntendto do an_d T said when we wrote this we intended them to be senerate and he said there is this question, and T suggested that he bring it before the Planning Board and the Zoning Board. He came before the Planning Board, the Manning Board confirmed what its intent was and T did not 'Vno�T but it went before the 7oninq Popr(l and you confirmed the other intent. T do not mean to nriti(-i7p irou or Pnlrth_inpz of this kind, T can tel-1 you 1�,Thnt the intent was because T wrote it. 'hat is beside the point 'her- you ba-m- iiidged Ot�j-n,TiSP P year n—I P 'hnl-f Pao -,n TIm- })--p before you to qs7,7 for P variance. There are some stern being taken in the ?I--Pnning I:zoRrd to correct this matter but that should not be a matter that enters into this concern. The fact of the matter is howellrer, that while N-?-. Pilinski icz asking for this irsrjpnc-e that the npighbori-r nro-nertir owner the entire crrou-n of nrore-ties Pcrosq the 7,t-rPPt and +Tler- Prq rin. tires Pnd there are mPT)s in t-h-- P-nrlicption here. 'rhe ertire group of properties across the street and T believe the-P are six of them maybe seven, not one of them has a lot size the same as this lot they all smal.ler. 71.reryone of them.. has arartment unit-- in them r; 6, 7 and 9 Prn-d T would sav that one of the JOVTest density units on this block is this lot that be-fore you. in question. So there can not be any question in my mind at least you have to make that Judgement, in my mind this is increasIrLP' the density of the neighborhood in P wpy that would be detrimental to that nPighborhoorl . 7x(,ent for the house that TIr in and T lived i-n and Mr. Schramm' s house and Mr. Pushes house next door and he since moved . T do not know of any other single family houses on Stewart Ave. from where it begins to where it ends. 'his i,ras R single family house which T chose to create 1-0 years ago and F I - now it is being proposed to being a two family house with 5, 6, 7 jun- its all around it in the middle of a multi family district and Iwe are here before you on this matter of a variance to increase the densi-ty from one unit to two units on this lot. The second question of narking I've referred to before, there is no way of getting parking on this lot. Tn fact, the Planning 'Roard staff, Planning staff have reviewed this, indicated something that T had not considered previously. That in fact, the requirements for -oarkini7 for two units given the way the .7oninp- ordinances is writte is less than the requirement for parking far my one unit, as it is so in fact T am lower than the requirements for pPrI<-Jrs7 or. Mr. The wait Rilinski is lower than the requirements for parking. y � 5 relates to the number of bedrooms in the unit. Accord.in�_- to the l 7oning Ordinance for the 7 bedrooms T_ had with one unit T would have had to of have one for the first 3 one for the next two plus one for each one after that. So that means I would have had to bad _four parking places. Mr. Bilinski .requires 3. So therefore, we are lowering the requirements by this proposal. .At any rate there is parking nearby. Mr. Bilinski has rented two parking places the same taro that T rented. They are cooing to be available to h.im so T have two cars T don't, know how many cars he has but , there will not be more cars on the street. These spaces are not available there are other parking places available. This should not be a problem in the neighborhood. The third question in my mind is a very minor one. It' s a four foot lot size rather than la 5 foot lot side lot line. Mr. Bilinski in order to nut the isecond arartment in second unit in, desires to have an outside stairway which is best nut on this one side of the house. The reason for that has to do with the arrangement of the house. Tt' s P center hallway house and the best place to attach to that center hallway and stairway is on this one side of the house. To do it on another side which .is possible, would mean cutting up the inside of the house in a. detrimental way and that can be done but its much more desirable to the internal arrangements to put it on this side of the house. That' s the mantle that is there. T want to i point out again that this is not a use variance which requires stricter evidence of hardship. Practical difficulties T think Pre_, clearly involved in this and that the neighborhood in no way can Ibe conceived of in my orinion at least to be potentially harmed iby what is proposed here. Mr. Bilinski and Mr. Rich Greenberg, his a.ttorneir are here to talk more about this. Thank you. Nm, . MI!RTTN: Questions? M7. VANMARTFR: i don't understand the arithmetic on the an-olication the numbers for so . feet req?jired. T've got here something like 4750. r.M . ;TPTN!: 'Jell, if you o;o by the interpretation that is now (-urrent you need 3?50 sq, ft. for the first unit plus another 1500 sq . ft. for the second unit that means. . . . . . . . . . . . . . I nv, VAT.RARTFR: Tt doesn't say that. It says only for multiple F i dUrellings. You don' t harp a multipi_e dt^Tpllinp% mTle definition is clear. 7P STFTN: "'hen t4hat is your i_nternretati_on let, me be more clear about it. mhat we don't nped a variance on the lot area? TAP . STpNMARTFR: The renui_rpm.ent, the best t,rav void could read it would be in the ranP-e of 4250, makes a. deficiency like a half. T'Tr inclined to measure deficiencies by nercentage some are reasonable, some are not. Lower nercenta7es appear more than. greater Percent,a _ es. So T'M just. OlIpgti_oni nq the arithmetic . The Only reference in the nrdinancp the 1,Talr it -is written relates to multiple dt�rel_lings , ri.Afi.r _ti Ori is r'l_ear. Win don't hp:lre ar1jr dpf _niti_On for multi_ , What etre haire is multinip_ and that is three or more. You do not harp three or more that i_s why T bring up the Point of this . T,T . STFTN: So therefore the yari..ance, the area. -variance is not reoui rcrT then? Tri . jIAT\TM^.RTFP : The percentage of deficiency becomes in the range of is listed here. 71P . STFTnT: T don' t understand the arithmetic. NM_ ITnT\TMA RTFR: T thought you listed as 3960? MQ . STF T1\T• The.t' s ri_crbt T,"I . ZTA1\TNf!-RTFR: nk, if the renuirement is 4250 +lie rerc-ntagP of trari_an!`e is somel,rhat ri_i fferent th?r th.e diffprenCp bpt?.Tpen 7060 and 4'750? TflA TT7: nk, so the nuestion is wbrY re do you get 4250? rT7 , ITT?T RTI-P ; `Tbpre do T apt i_t? ? , n�APT77: Yes Vm . VA W1 PTF'? : T'm bus+_, ricki_n.v out ofone dwellinp- ur_it and. I.-bat p i s addir_F-r is one dt,rel_l_inp- unit. Ne is not addin.g anything that rel_ptes to mul ti rl e di?+al.l_ _n.crs. So it is the only thing that T see listed in the nrdinancp. R . STFTN: How did you get from 3950 to 4250? vTR . KASPRZAK: : You apply 32.50 plus 1000. r . `JANMARTFR.: That' s right, 3250 plus 1000. VP MARTTN: plus a thousand. KASPR7_Av. That makes it 4250. 7 MR . WNT'�'T:^FmFR : Your basic lot size 7250 we d-on' t talk about two family. MR . STFTN• T see, I see. I MT?. VANTMARTFR: We don' t talk about two family dwelling, it jumps right to the multiple. 'ire reviewed this and documented. it for your committee. MR. STFIN: T didn' t see that, T'm sorry ok. T'm happy that it works out that way. MP. 7_4SPR7AK: We both worked on it too, you know. MP . ST7TN: 0k, I remember. MR. VANMAR77-I: You didn' t read it that' s all. MR. STFTt\T: Ok, so we are talking about L250 rather than 7960. MR. VANTMARTFR • Ts this a reasonable way to look at it: MR . STEIN: 290 so . ft. ? MR . MARTIN: Further questions for Mr. Stein? MR . GR_FFNRFRG: Good. evening ladies and gentlemen, T'm attorney Richard Greenberg representing Mr, and Mrs. Rilinski. Mr. Stein very adequately stole my thunder and gave my whole talk so T'm not going to repeat him. The main problem here which is not rea11_ a severe nroblem is whether this building remains as a one family unit which .it is hard to sell_, which may not be sold, which would nut a. hardship on Mr. Stein more than my client who is very interested in purchasing it and. has obtained financing for it and wants to live in the neighborhood. Tf it were not allowed for it to become a two family unit the only other alternatives of use would be either renting to one family or like one family the latte_ of which has been tried and has not been successful and the former may require prohibitive cost or .renting to groups of students in that type of situation which T think would not be as desirable as having two families reside in the house. My client intends to • leave the outside of the structure in its present form or to make further improvements and that gill fit in 1ATith the n_ei_mhborbood . Mr, ,Stein_ has said and T will repeat that the predominance of the neighborhood is multi family, multiple student apartments and dwelling units. So we are not talking about changing, you know making this the rose bush in the corn field. The parking will 1I 8 remain a problem, obviously, but regardless of whatever use this property is put these, will not be any parking facilities a�railable and whether it be a one family with a mother, father and several children who may hpve automobiles or two family or students or whatever, the parking is going to be the problem and T dont feel that would be proper area to decide it on since regardless of the use the problem is going to be there. T don't feel that the out- side exit situation is very severe, it' s a matter of one foot and again this will preserve the outside of the building and allow for a reasonable ingress and egress of the other f_amil_y. T have P letter from a Mr. Fred Rolfe who is a neighbor in the area and he has expressed that he is wishing Mr. Bilinski luck on his application before the Board.. "'hat' s the only comments that we have on it. T'm not going to take un more time repeating Mr. Steins arguments, T think that they are all sound and T think that the request here is a very .reasonable one and T think that i_t wil_l both improve the area and improve the house itself. Mr. Stein had to convert this house as he stated_ fr?r hi.s oi�,n rrartirul._ar family use and it served him wpl_1. Mr. Ri.li nski now because he only has his —i fe, he doesn' t have any children. yet and even given th? fact would he mail 1' Pe-I a large house is too far in the futt]re to r+rPdict. At this point he needs to convert this property for his particular use and both finPncall•.T and must a matter of needed space trill bare to CorZTPrt the upst_,ai_rs apartri.-nt. Nis altPrn-qtiv to obtaining this variance would be of course that h �,� „l_d + _ e o not be able to purnh— it and it would to Fr bac! n �-hP tTl'aY+1.tPt and ­roul_d hp-,r- to be sold. Ps P si_rale fapni_.ly unit. nml, TvrnRTTnT; The point has been stressed that the Ri linski ' s are going to live in the house and. that the area needs owner occupancy or at least would be benefited by it, but... T gather that what i s proposed P conversion of one unit into ttTo is essential_l_y irrevocable and trill apply whether or not beyond the point of 14hich. the Bilinski' s still are living there so it might well apply in the case of a absentee ol,,Tner wbo is renting out to students Ps well. ItiM . rTP77T\T'RPP : Yes, T feel that would be the case_ . The RiTinski' s do hPve every intention of ma}ci r-q this the-Ir family residence. T I� ^ II f y i would presume if they elected otherwise woiil_d se1.1_ the property. i Whether it is an ourner occupied plus another family or two other � I families, the same would be the case. MR , MARTTN: Or two units filled_ with students. MR . GRFFNBFRG: Or two units exactly. Tt would be a situation where there would be two seperately divided dwelling units. The effects on the neighborhood itself, would really be the same whether it oas the Rilinski' s or someone else living there plus the upstairs apartment. MR. MAR.TTN: Are there questions from members of the Board.? MR.. KASPp?AK_: T want to understand one thing. You are not going to or planning to alter the outside except the entry staircase right? MR. GRFF�MERG: Right, the outside will not be changed, other than I maintenance type of situation. i MR. MARTIN: Further questions? nR. GREFNBFRG: Ts it possible to say how many bedrooms will exist after the alterations? AIR. GRFF-T\?PFRG: T presume and my client will correct me that Mr. and Mrs. Bilinski will probably have two bedrooms in the down- stair of the house the master bedroom and a guest room, potential nurse . I T_ presume the upstairs wi1.1 have two or three. Three bedrooms P for the upstairs apartment which would accommodate a family of any reasonable size. So we would end up with 5 bedrooms. T_ believe there is seven now. So it would be a. reduction of 2 bedrooms. f MR . MARTIN: Farther questions? MR . GASTFTGFR: The Planning Board raised the question or recommended that the stairway be moved to another plane, the back of the house. T wes T-pondering how seriously this would effect the proposed plans.1 • You see we have no plans. MRS. WOOD: Where do you find that the Planning Board recommended. that? i MR. GASTET_GFR: But acknowledged that this might not be feasible right away. The Board agreed that it wotild like to see the proposed outside stairs replaced somewhere other than the north side of the house as proposed. Tt wasn't recommended but their would like to s e. . . l0 MR . GREENRFRr--: The present proposal and again my client because he is a purchaser who an owner would be doing this work but of course do to the contingencies and in fact this is fai-.rlymoderate take the time and expense to draw up detailed architectural plans. The nroposed space is the best possible location for this entrance Granted it is only h _feet from the lot line as opposed to the reauired 5. Tnspite of that it is still the best location. Now it is possible to move this however it will break up the interior Space in a, harmful way. Tt wol.zld diminish the value and the possible use of the property. T personallsr feel that the one foot difference here as opposed to the hardship of moving it and the end result would not be productive. MR. C-AST7TG7?,: nerhars they had in mind though the appearance of the nronertg usually these olztside staircases go unpainted and d-istract from the neighborhood. MR. CRrFNRFRG: t-'el_1, my client mans to have this as his home and nrobably more than anyone else warts it to _look just right. ue has ezrery intention of makina 'his construction both- compatible with the structure itself and the neighborhood. All T have to say in support of that is to say that it will_ be his home and it will be hard to see him spending that kind of money to baire something look both ug-l_v and distractfiil. T'T, • TVPTTT,T: Are there .further questions'? Thank yov. Are there others who wish to sneak first i_n behalf of the reouested area_ irari_ance? A.r. e there anv here who wi sb to speak in onnositi on'� Tf rnt that ^onclud.es our public bearin, or. 1-11_0. I in r� rTT ( )PP 9 i 17 m OF u r s ry TTT- T eT � T\T ROR nF n . T. n T 17TTV TT. 8 Fr, �. r ,S. .Tn p,pnTT 5 t lq76 APP7 AT, a 1110: T«rs . U'Tood- moved to Grant t'hP requested area Ira ri.ance. Dr. f rPArr,o gpnonrlarl. tY e motion. FTNnTN(7-9 OF FP r7T.S T. The rliscrepancy is cm--all and the pror>oSed ronvprsion to tp,rn ,.nits would- be at least as beneficial if not more bene_f_i^i_al- for the neighborhood as use of the property as one unit rented as a rooming house. 2. The off street parking requirements of the ordinance can not feasibily be complied with given topographer of the lot. 7. The rroposed entrance to the upstairs Pncroarhes onl-,r one foot on the required side yard ar_d is the least 0-structilre T-air to achiAzre -c(-,-9s to the seror?(9 floor, I Vnmr: Yes - r; ?\T0 - 1 APPT,TrnmTnT\T NAc RrPnT r7ANT-7D II i I i c BOARD OF ZONING APPEALS, CITY OF TTHACA, CITY HALL, ITHACA, NFT' YORK, APRIL 5, 1976 APPEAL 0 1111: The Appeal of Harold J. Perry and Flva S. Perry for use variance under section 30.25 Col. 1 at 120-140 Brindley Street in an T-1 use district and Mr. Thaler is here to represent the client. MR. THALER: Good evening Mr. Chairman and ladies and gentlemen, my name is Richard Thaler, Thalerand Thaler 309 N. Tioga Street and we are the attorneys for the petitioners in this case. Mr. and Mrs. Perry haire purchased a. niece of property at 120-140 Brindley Street which is doom on the island area, west end of town It was for the intended purpose of housing Mr. Perry' s business which is that of a tering and wrecker service. The purchase of th property was primarily intended to provide an area in a commercial or an industrial zone which if you have your map, an T-1 zone pro- vides that any use permitted in B-4 except that dwelling units are expressly prohibited. A problem with a wrecker service, I'm fairy sure that all of you are familiar with having had several cases T belie-ire, that is, tht it is very difficult to find a zone to put one of these services into. Mr. Perry and Mrs. Perry have operated this business for a good number of years in this community and always 3 tried to abide by the laws and. one of the things that we find most difficult in trying to locate the service as far as its headquarters are concerned, is to provide not only the capability of servicing the business but also making it possible to hire the help that is necessary to make it a 24 hour service. In doing this, in offering this service it is almost mandatory that you Yiave ,a person on premi es 24 hours a day in the evening hours unless you have a place for that person to stay on premises it is difficult to get the proper type of help. It is Mr. Perry' s intention that if this variance is granted to place an apartment in the second floor of the building which is existent on Brindley Street. The building was at the time that Mr. Perry purchased it in bad need of repair and part of the placing of the apartment in the building would be to upgrade the I character and quality of the building. We believe that the varianc6 should be granted and requested on the grounds of hardship and also I will indicate to the Board that it is not changing the character- istics of the zoned area since the building itself_ will be used as i i an industrial use within the permitted uses under an I-1 district and also indicate to the Board that the Planning Board I think called it to the attention and T think it is a valid one and that 's that as of necessity the service that Mr. Perry performs for the many police agencies for the many insurance companies that called I upon him. He takes vehicles that have been involved either in accidents or he takes vehicles that have been illegally parked to the area and they are temporarily stored until they are either claimed or disposed of. By having somebody on the premises 24 hou s a day the likelihood of burglary or breakins or the temptation of burglaries and breakins will be diminished. We have received several letters, T think that Mr. Jones has received a few and has probably turned them over to the chairman. But I'd .like to gall the attention of the Board if I could find the one that I was looking for wherein one of the neighbors indicates one of the reasons that they are in favor of this I believe is the A B Dick Duplicating Service or Duplicating Products, Messieurs Hirlemann, they say that among other things we feel that the occupants of the proposed apartment would be an asset to the business atmosphere. The mere presence of residents on Taber and Cherry Streets would help deter I burglaries and vandalism. We also received a letter from the McPherson Builders T believe, that' s McPherson Builders Tnc . who indicate that they would have no objection to having an apartment being constructed on the second floor at Brindley Street and their ' primary feeling is for the same as the Duplicating Service. Again, let me say that we are aware that there has been some unsuccessful attempts to place .residential dwellings or apartments into the industrial zones and they have not particularly worked out. But i here it is an adjunct onto the business that is going to be placed in the industrial area. And it is an adjunct for three things and one is service to Mr. Perry' s customers , the second is for the security of the product that he becomes a person who is holding things in trust, especially when he is called upon by the Police 9 Departments tho various agencies here to take cars into his pos- session that have been illegally parked and the third function of the living element in the building would. be to utilize the buildin .. i to an extent that it has not been utilized before. There would be absolutely no purpose in Mr. Perry' s business at this point if that the second floor was not utilized as the live in apartment for the person living on premises for his business, there would be no purpose to use the second floor at all. 1,Vhich would mean that there would be no purpose _really to uT)grade the building beyond the exterior and the first floor. 1,,Te -eel for these three purposes or for these three .reasons and for the reasons given in the appli- cation, that the nature of the area would not be detered or change that we ask you to grant the variance that we asked for and it really becomes a hardship to Tyr. Perry via the back door, T supnos in that if he can not have the anartment on premises it is going to be very difficult having the business located where it is to have somebody close enough in residen^e to run the 24 hour service i_mnractical. Tom . MAPTTN: Our recommendation from the Planning Board suggests that we might impose a condition that is quite consistent with the rationale for the request, namely that if granted., the apartme. t be permitted only as interval part of the business and that occu- nancy be limited to employees of the business. Do you have any objection to such a condition? TGIF?. THALFR : Mr. Perry would not have any objection. MR. KAgpP7.AK: T have a. question. You made P. statement before tha. with reference to use, that the wrecking business would be unwelco ed in residential area. T agree. The question is did TJr. Perry look in other than .residential areas and along industrial area.s. . . . . . . . � MR. TFALFP : The answer is that we have looked extensively. Mr. Perry has been looking for the last 5 years to find areas within the city limits that would accommodate his business that would be large enough as far as the so . footage that he could afford. This was the only place that we could find within the confines of what it was that he was going to be doing and what it was that he could afford. MR. GASTFTGFR: How long has he been oneratina? MR. THATFR.: At Brindley? MR. GASTETGFR: Yes i I MR.. THALER: We closed on it I believe in March, just about the first part of March, didn't we Hap? DR . GREENBFRG: I have a couple of a_uestions for Mr. Thaler. It seemed to me that the sa . footage in the area that you speak of is huge to say the least and I was wondering what type of apartment, how many bedrooms etc. would be put up there? MR. THALER: Dr. it is not a, we are planning on using the building that is already there. There is a. first floor which will be turns into office space as well as other uses in conjunction to the business. It is the second floor which has been unoccupied, un- used for as long as I can remember during the I believe the owner- i ship of Mr. Hull and Mr. Meisslier. T think that the last time the second floor of this building was used was during the old days of Robinson and Carpenter when Lou Meisslier was still alive and they had to have a place for excess storage, they stored things ink the second floor of this building but, since that time I don't think that it has been used at all. That is where Mr. Perry intends to put the apartment. DR. GREENBFRG: It is referred to that space. . . . . . . . . . . NLR. THALER: I think that it is a two bedroom apartment, it is big enough to be a hotel. DR. GREENBERG: That' s what I'm afraid of. MR. THALER: No, he intends to put a two bedroom apartment in ther so that it would be an attractive place for an employee, his wife and one child. NSR . MARTIN: Are there further questions from members of the Board MR. K_ASPRZAK: Suppose you did not get a permit for the house, what would be the reaction from you and Mr. Perry be? MR. THALER : Just to approach the thing as a practical nature, we did feel and I think that Mr. Perry took a calculated risk to be perfectly frank with you. One of the things that we put on our I application for _financing was to be able to have that apartment on the second floor of that building. His financing is predicated onl having it there. I would think that if he could not have it there, ► he is going to have to turn around. and sell the property. He ( already has a buyer, there were two people who were interested in the property at the time when he bought it. NLP . KASPRZA.K: Could he put it to another use or to the wrecking business. . . . . . . . MR. THALER : The answer to that is that it is not conducive. His • business is first floor, ground floor, outside the building. The only use that he would_ have for the second floor would be as a i subtenant or a tenant type business and Mr. Perry is not a landlor. , he is in the wrecking business. And he does that well. MR. KASPRZAK: I have no further questions. MR. VANMARTER: Would you review two or three things that relate to hardship pertaining only to the building and the land that we are .required to consider? MR. THALE'.: I think as far as the hardship is concerned, this property itself would., being an industrial zone, it has been vacant, unused other than for storage, I think for about 5 years. Really, the only purpose for this property would be to someone who either wished to tear down the building that is there or develop something on the first floor since the second floor in its present condition is really not usable for gnvtbing other than storaffP. If we can not and when T say we, IIm talking _about Mr. and Mrs. Perry, if they can not do what they contemplate by putting in this apartment, it would mean that they would have to pa.v a bonus to thel man who is on night call, so thathe could live in an area that is ( nearby inorder to be the 24 hour man, the graveyard shift man. If that graveyard shift man works 12 hotrs and since the labor law requires that you could only have a person work forty hours a. week without paying him time and a half, that requires a second mar_ and'. thiq imuld be a death blow to the business if he tried to carry that at time and a_ half or if irou try to add an extra. man. By having this apartment, he can then provide that the man is only on dutir r-hen called or when he goes out on call, thereby keeping down the number of hours that he has to compensate his man. It is an undue hardship, if he can not do this since it is not utilizing the property for which he bought it. MR. VANMARTER: Anything relating to the land or buildings? MR. THALER: To be perfectly frank with you Mr. Vanmarter, the only thing that T could tell you is that I don't think that the building, in its present condition is useful for anything in the industrial nature other than what Mr. Perry is going to do. Tf you are looking for somebody to utilize that land in a different way T_ think that you are talking about tearing down tYe buildin7 entirely and again I think that that is a imposition of a hardship upon a land owner since the building can not be used for a industrial purpose in thel condition that it is in now. MR. MARTTN: You mentioned that there is another buyer, however, . . MR. THALER: Who is going to tear down the building and just use the land. MR. MARTIN: Or a use permitted in an industrial zone. MR. THALER: That is correct. MRS. WOOD: If the provision of the apartment is a condition for the financing that implies to me that Mr. Perry expects to get a rental income. MR. THALER: What it amounts to is that he takes part of the expen P of the business by giving the apartment in exchange and by doing that he cuts down the amount of payroll since he does not have to have a man on duty that 12 hour shift. He is only on duty during the times that he is called. The rest of the time he is in reside ce. Mt.. Chairman, I'd like to, I don't know whether or not you have ` the letter from the . . . . . . . . . I MR. MARTIN: I don't have that one I have three letters. One from Wallace Steel, one from A B Dick and one from Kissock' s, which I will read into the record in a moment. Mr. Thaler, I'm finding myself uncomfortable in an attempt to fit this case into the variance mold and I'm impressed by at least the germ of an argumen that this is so incidential to a use that is permitted in Industr•al zone that maybe it shouldn't be viewed as a residence but an " f industrial use. Might the Board reach the results you want by the way of an interpretation of the ordinance rather than by variance? MR. THALER: The answer is that if you wish to put the restriction iit on that the apartment can only be used as an incident to the businelss, certainly. We did not feel that the strain to put the Board of III Zoning Appeals in the position of finding that the night man was a incidential part of his business, we are saying that it is. We are saying that that is the reason why if we can not have it we i can not maintain the property for that use because we can't afford to pay the money to the employee to live off premises and be on duty the 12 hours and then have two shift people in order to compl with the labor law. And I think that by what ever method and T think that you can see that in our application we have gone under all three rather than just the hardship method. We've indicated the facts and the circumstances certainly comply to C2 as well as Cl and also they apply to C3. My feeling is that if the Board feels as the Planning Board did, that this would be an adjunct to the business that is there and cert6inly it is a mere extension of the industrial use. Tt is not a residence per se it is a part of the use of the business. And T agree with you Mr. Chairman, that that may be more comfortable a place to put it but we felt the strain in not saying• to the Board of Toning Appeals well you must do this, or you must do that in order to . . . . . . . we brought the facts to you as they are indeed and T think that the neighbors all feel pretty much the same. MR. MARTIN: Are there further questions from members of the Board . Thank you Mr. Thaler. Are there others who would like to speak on behalf of the requested variance? I.Je have four letters that will i be entered into the record of the hearing. One a letter from Andrew McPherson which states no objection to the apartment. A. letter .from Wallace Cteel which says there is no objection. A some- what more extensive letter from the Hirlemann' s on behalf of A B Dick, expressing no objection and then going on and arguin7 that occupants of the apartment would be an asset and would help deter burglaries and vandalism. And a letter from the TKissock' s also stating no objection, Ts there anyone here this evening who wishes� to speak in opposition to the rpnnestAd variance. Tf not then that concludes our hearing on case 1111. I ROAPD OF ZONTNC APPFALS, CTTY OF TTHAC;'A, FYFC TTTVF QFSSTON L � APPTL 5, 1975 APPFAL !� 1111 Mr. Martin moved that the reauested use variance be denied. Mr. Ka__srrzak seconded. the motion. FT'VT)TNC OF FArTS 1) The evidence nresented at the hearing would not indicate a sufficiently unique problem with this property that would justify detriating from the use specified for an industrial zon . 2) The argument that somebody on ?4 hour call is important to the property owner' s business does not necessarily require that the person on call _live on the premises. Motion is for denial. VOTE: Yes - 5 No - 1 Variance denied. t BOARD OF ZONING APPEALS, CITY OF ITHACA, CITY HALL, ITHACA NEW YORK, APRIL 5, 1976 Appeal No. 1112 - The appeal of Mary P. Leary for the interpretation of the Zoning Ordinance under Section 30.3-42, 30.3-66, 30.25 Col. 3, • 30.25 Col. 5, 30.40, 30.54, 30. 101, 30.3-62, 30.24, 30.25 Col. 4, 30.37-4, 30.49, 30.57 at 325 N. Albany Street in a R-3 use district and Mr. Robert Leary is here to present the case. MR. LEARY: Mr. Chairman, I'm Robert M. Leary 1305 Camile Court, Raleigh North Carolina. I'm appearing on behalf of Mary P. Leary resident of 309 N. Albany Street and her sister Kathryn Leary who also lives at 309 N. Albany Street. We also have authorization to appear on behalf of Ina Leonard 323 N. Albany Street, resident next door to the property in question and I will file it with the clerk. I believe you received a copy of the appeal as well as the report of the Planning and Development. Before getting into my appeal I' d like to review what I believe some inadequancies in the report of the Planning Board. I tried to talk with Mr. VanCort today and was unable to do so. And there was nobody else in the office who was familiar with the material so I'm constrained to I guess bring to your attention some things that I don' t believe are accurate in the report, so that you don' t have to operate under the misapprehension that the Planning Boards report is an actual and factual report. First of all that the opening statement is that the lot is non-conforming but this has nothing to do with the case. This states directly one of the points that was raised in the appea�- And that is that the building commissioner did not issue, there wast no application for a required certificate of occupancy because your zoning ordinance requires that all changes and non-conforming structures or premises must have a valid certificate of occupancy that issues. So that the first sentence in the Planning and Develo - ent Boards recommendation to you, and this apparently will be the full record of the discussion before the Planning Board, is inaccur te. he second sentence also is inaccurate. It reports that it might b possible to have off street parking on 325 N. Albany Street. It ould be tight but it could be done. Based on 30 years of residenc t 325 N. Albany Street and a thorough reading of the Zoning i� 2 10rdinance, I can tell you that that is an impossibility, legally and physical. The third sentence is completely accurate for a Xchange, Mr. Chairman. Ms. Leary says that the pet store is not assessory to home use but is primary. This is the first accurate statement the Planning Board is able to put before you. The fourth sentence unfortunately is again inaccurate. The pet store according to the Planning and Development Board actually takes up slightly more than 3/4 of the first floor. And goes on to say that the rest of the house consisting of basement, second floor and a quarter of the first floor is residential. This in fact is inaccurate. More than the three rooms used as display purposes and sales purposes are in fact devoted to the pet store. So I wanted to bring this to your attention, we will come back to this in a moment in my presentation. But I do want to bring to your attention the fact that you were not well served, I believe, by the report that the Planning Board presented to you. There is a question also Mr. Chairman about the definition of what constitutes a cottage industry? I suspect that reading your zoning ordinance the manufacture of cages is not permitted in any residential district and there is a great question as to whether it is permitted in any of your commercial districts. The first time that it is really mentioned i in your industrial districts. We can skip over to the second page where it was stated that the Mayor reported that Mr. Enders had gotten permission for the sign and was in his legal rights. In fact no sign permit has been issued. That I guess at this point is enough said about the Planning and Development Boards action. I had some reservations and I tried to find out whether there was actually a written staff report that supported the planning commission action and found none. Again as I say I tried to talk to Mr. VanCort today and he seemed to be indisposed or at least he was unavailable. As a result of the Planning Boards meeting there was a report in the Journal which may again leave with you some misapprehension. You may have come to the conclusion that Mr. Enders and his family including two small children live in 325 N. Albany Street. In fact of the matter as the public record discloses that Mr. Enders has been divorced for something like 3 years and the custody of his children resides in his wife and he has visiting 3 permission. The basic thrust of our appeal however, Mr. Chairman is that the Building Commissioner in handling this matter made several erroneous interpretations of the Zoning Ordinance. The first one I've already alluded to the fact that the non-conforming status of 325 and it' s non-conforming I believe in at least 4 different aspects. There is inadequate lot size, the R-3 zone requires 3250 sq. ft. and there is actually 2244 sq. feet in the lot. Three of the four setbacks are inadequate and there is no required off street pakking even though off street parking is required under the zoning ordinance for this use. It appears that sometime early in 1976, Mr. Enders received permission after verbal discussion with Mr. Jones and I believe Mr. VanCort to operate something called the Family Pet and Plant Center at 325 N. Albany Street. A house that' s been used as a single family house for something on the order of 60 years in a R-3 zone. I should point out that there are no particular skills involved in the operation of a retail store selli g pet food, pets such things as snakes, fish, birds, pet supplies and conducting as I understand, according to at least the public press, the breeding of animals . So that there is no craft, art or particular talent involved in this, it' s the talent normally exercised by the most common retail entrepreneur. So that it fails the first test of a skilled profession or those occupations normally found in home occupation categories. The operation ostensively was approved as a customary home occupation because there are two other pet shops in Ithaca. One of which is in a business zone I believe a B-3 zone operating on East State Street and a second operating at 331 S. Cayuga Street in a former B-4 zone. In the vicinity of which is a plumbing and heating contractor, a used and new car sales, and repair operation and a couple gas stations. Something Ithat is completely lacking in the area of N. Albany Street. A I quiet residential area a fragile area, I underline an area that has shad a great deal of new investment and new residence moving in expending their own time and effort as well as money in trying to reverse the deterioration and the decay that we have all witnessed over the past 15 or 20 years. I suspect that the Ithaca Aquariums which you have never had before you the one over on S. Cayuga Street, has the same fatal defect that Ender' s operation has. That it is a I 0 4 commercial use masquerading as a home occupation and is not in fact a true home occupation as defined by your ordinance. It is not something that is customarily found or carried on in the home, a test that has been laid down by the appellant division of the Supreme Court of New York . It is not something that a prudent man exercising his normal intelligence would expect to be parachuted in next to him nor would it be something that I believe the four of the six members of the Board of Zoning Appeals right here who live in a R-3 zone who would expect to have located next to them. I' d assume that you all are prudent and reasonable men. And I ask you to apply the same yard stick to the deliberation on this matter. It is of deep concern as an example to Mrs. Leonard that a seven foot snake resides within four feet of her kitchen sink. Or that she look out her kitchen window and sees hamster food racked up four feet in front of her face. Or that she sees and knows that there are fish, birds and other things creepy crawlees as she said today in a residential area. I submit to you that that doesn' t make a great deal of sense. That this is a commercial use, it is not a customary home occupation, it is not customarily thought of i as a home occupation, it is not a lawyer, it is not a physician, it is not a dentist. The customary home occupations that I believe have been before you for a number of times. What is defined in your ordinance and there is a list of them and I believe you are very familiar with thea, the kinds of occupations artist studios, and by the way artist studios are not even allowed apparently by the zoning ordinance to have sales outlets. It' s a studio when an artist transgresses professional organizations and moves into commerce he conducts that business in a commercial zone not in a residential zone. There are some who have suggested as an example that the phrase but not limited, to which is in your ordinance last part of the definition of customary home occupations. Would permit almost anything which could be located in a house, actually to be located there. That' s gratuitous, that' s absurd wlmat it was obviously was intended to do was to include such things as dentist which are not listed as a customary home occupation but where you Ido have dentist operating as home occupations, professionals conducting their profession. It is not meant to cover every 5 i conceivable kind of commercial zone operation. Now one of the things that I attempted to do was to find out how Mr. Enders classifies himself since I was raising the question of the classif- ication. I' d like to submit for your information and for the recor , a copy of the Ithaca Journal March 27, 1976 where we have a large display advertisement statim.- that you are to clip, redeem, and save at Ithacas leading merchants. And among Ithacas "leading merchants" is the Enders Pet Shop. It' s included with such things as the Livery Tavern, Mark III Top of The Ladder, Van' s Shoes, Sam Peter, Smoke Rings, Ragmann' s, Ann Marie House of Fashion and a number of others . I've taken the trouble to check the location of each of these and they are all located in commercially zoned land all with the exception of Enders Pet Shop. So I haven' t classified Mr. Enders, he has classified himself . I submit to you that the masquerading as a customary home occupation for what is clearly a commercial use is a travesty of the zoning ordinance whic I believe Mrs. Leonard, and my two maiden aunts who have lived on the 300 block of N. Albany Street for all of their lives who have as their father and I'm rather proud of this, my grandfather was the first democratic acting mayor in the City of Ithaca. He built the house. So they have a great deal of affection for that area and have watched it over the years and wish to remain there. But at the same time they are aware of the deleterious affect that creeping commercialism can have on what is in essence a very fragil and delicate neighborhood. In addition to the requirement that the home occupation be customary which I believe we have disposed of , is that the home occupation must be clearly incidential to the primary use which is residential and it' s clear that the conversion of the first floor and all of the first floor plus other parts of the building to a commercial operation violates this proposal. It violates the restriction that the residential use of the property be clearly predominate and that the commercial use be clearly subordinate. I submit to you the installation of commercial lighting, the conduct of business affairs until 9 o' clock every evening, the installation of commercially prepared materials not I roduced by the labor or the talent of the residences shows Ii 6 unequivocally that this is not a clearly subordinate use, it is a use of a predominant part of the building for commercial purposes and violates several sections of the Zoning Ordinance which I detailed in the application itself. The primary purpose of a residential district and ggain this is not me talking it is the court of appeals in New York State. The primary purpose of a presidential district created by a zoning ordinance is safe, healthf 1 family life. Rather than the development of commercial instincts and pursuit of pecuniary profit. And I should pause here for just a moment to say Mr. Chairman, that I share the kind of reluctance you always have of accepting a hard decision like the one you have before you, I used to be a member of a Board of Zoning Appeals for a number of years, so that I sympathize with you for your unpaid status and the generous amount of abuse that you can get from the public and the petitioners. I believe it takes unreasonably tortured logic and indefensible grammatical gymnastics to conclude that the Family Pet and Plant Center or as it said on the sign, Enders Pet Store, is a customary phenomenon in Ithaca as a home occupation or elsewhere for that matter. And that it is in complete compliance with the generally accepted norms of being a clearly subordinate commercial use, home occupation in a residential area. A further test of the unreasonable nature I believe of the enforcin officers decision was his decision not to enforce the zoning ordinance on a commercial use which is the Enders Pet Store as regards to the off street parking requirements. Mr. Enders referre to this in the Journal story I discussed earlier that his big problem is the fact that there is no parking in the vicinity and I can testify from 30 years of personal experience that in fact, he is right. It' s probably one of the things that he is right about. I That the parking is impossible at best and at worst indescribable. Yet at the same time, the building commissioner did not enforce sections 30.25 col. 4 and section 37 to require a commercial use to provide off street parking in association with the operation of the commercial undertaking on 325 N. Albany Street. Clearly the ordinance requires it. The City Council has said this, as far as I'm concerned the provisions of the ordinance are unequivocal and 7 Mr. Jones' s duty was clear. He did not see fit to discharge that duty. I'm suggesting that you have the right to instruct him to do so. The provisions of the ordinance gentlemen, provide that the residence in the area and I talk about my maiden aunts, I talk about Mrs. Leonard who has lived there for 30 years, elderly, about a well diserving of protection. I'm asking you to put yourself in the position as members of the Board of Zoning Appeals , of considering , what will be the effect of your decision that would uphold Mr. Jones' s permission, inadequate though I may believe it to be, that this is a customary home occupation and things like it, like precedence therefore to be located next to you in your R-3 zone. I Unfortunately Mr. Kasprzak and one other member of the Board of Zoning Appeals live in a R-1 zone where they have stomped out customary home occupations by law. But the methods of operation, the operation itself, contravene clearly the provisions of the zoning ordinance. A measure of the unreasonableness it the fact that one of the major causes of its installation is that it has exasperated the parking problem in the vicinity to the extent that even Mr. Enders admits it. I think also that there has been a suggestion that maybe there needs to be adjustments made to the zoning ordinance because of small lots or off street parking or clearing up some supposed but I don' t believe existing confusion as Ito what constitutes a home occupation or a customary home occupation. I believe it' s your responsibility to and I believe the Chairman has made this clear in other cases, but you have a law that you have to uphold, the Zoning Ordinance and irrespective of your personal beliefs as to it adequacy or inadequacy, you have the responsibility to interpret what is before you. You do not have the right nor the responsibility, I believe, to impose your concept of what the zoning ordinance ought to say in arriving at your conclusion. I'm suggesting that the ordinance which is before you, clearly says that a home occupation must be customary, it must be i I incidential, and it must be something that was expectible in the 1 pattern of Ithaca, in the pattern of the R-3 zone and the pattern �of the north central, I believe it' s the north central area of the i city. It was interesting to read for just a few moments this 8 afternoon some of the things that were said about the area by the Planning and Development Board, the Mayor and his Community Development Committee and other groups who have studied this area in the recent past as well as to indicate or to find that the comprehensive plan for the city clearly recognized the delicate Il nature of the area and made specific recommendations that commercialization or disruptive uses not be allowed in and that those who were there would be removed by public and private action. I'm suggesting to ycau that my aunts, Mrs. Leonard have been clearly imposed upon by Mr. Jones' s inadequate enforcement of the zoning ordinance and his misreading of the provisions of the ordinance to say nothing of the clearly contained content of the ordinance and we are suggesting to you that you can clear this defect and return a bit of tranquillity, a bit of peace of mind to a number � of citizens of Ithaca who have been mightily upset by this un- fortunate experience and who are deeply concerned that the law has not seen fit so far to protect them from what they believe are actions which fly right directly against the major intent of the zoning ordinance of the City of Ithaca. Mr. Jones' s erroneous decision can be expected to result in further automobile congestion in the streets and inappropriate use of land and buildings, destruction of neighboring property values, deterioration of the appearance and I haven' t mentioned but I guess I should, the placards which are pasted on the inside doors and windows of clearly a residential house or the rather garished sign that hangs in the front porch. But there will be destruction of property values, deterioration of the appearance of the neighborhood and a direct threat to the public health, safety and general welfare. All of these results apply directly in the facL- of the purposes for which the Common Council and its collective wisdom decided to adopt chapter 30 of the Municipal Code which is the City Zoning Ordinance. Therefore, we request you to uphold the appeal that the Enders Pet Store or the Family Pet and Garden, Pet and Plant Store be ruled no a customary Home Occupation and instruct the Building Inspector to exercise his responsibility and abate the violation of the ( zoning ordinance which is occuring. Thank you Mr. Chairman. i 1 9 SMR. MARTIN: Are there questions from members of the Board? MR. GASTEIGER: In your intrepretation, does a family reside at this property? MR. LEARY: Your definition of family is one or a number of related or related people, I believe. I read so many Zoning Ordinances, I've read 15 Zoning Ordinances . . . . . . . . . MR. MARTIN: There is no contention that the Enders lived somewhere else. MR. LEARY: No sir. I was just trying to correct the impression that was clearly intended in the Journal article that somehow or another that Mr. Enders and his children were a resident in this house. But they are not. MR. MARTIN: Are there further questions? MR. LEARY: Mr. Chairman, may I reserve the right to cross examine any adverse witnesses? IMR. MARTIN: Well, we have a loose procedure and we do not ( customarily have cross examination. I think that you will find that the Board itself will involve itself quite actively in questioning ' the parties. If you have questions that you want to ask, I hope that you will indicate. MR. LEARY: Could I spread on the record my request, that it is in accordance with your bylaws and I do make the request. MR. MARTIN: Alright. i MR. LEARY: I' d like to make that request. �( MR. MARTIN: Let me make clear that this is a request for an interpretation. The Zoning Ordinance in delineating the powers of the Board of Appeals list as the first of them, the power to interpret the ordinance on appeal by the aggrived party from a decision by an administrative official to decide a question involving the intent of any provision of the chapter, that is the zoning ( ordinance . Mr. Leary made a couple references to our giving I instructions to the zoning officer to enforce the ordinance . The Board does not have authority over enforcement of the ordinance andl �we don' t go around the city inquiring about compliance with ordinance but we clearly do have power to interpret where there are questions, and I gather that is what is being asked in this case. 10 Are there others who wish to speak on behalf of the requested intrepretation? That is the position advanced by Mr. Leary on behalf of the Leary' s and Ms. Leonard. Is there someone who wishes to speak in opposition, I take Mr. Enders. Yes. ( MR. ENDERS: My name is Dan Enders, I'm present owner of Enders Pet Shop at 325 N. Albany Street. Basically I'm intrigued that one man could find so much to say about so little and yet say so little about so much. I must apologize to Mr. Jones for being stepped all over by what he said. I think that its been mis- interpreted quite a bit, so I'm really here for one reason and hope that I can answer the Boards questions pertaining to the small home business in which I now have at 325 N. Albany Street. MR. MARTIN: Mr. Enders, much of what has been said and is in the appeal really constitutes legal arguments. Arguments about improp interpretation of the ordinance but there are some factual question How much of the building is occupied by the Pet business? MR. ENDERS: Three rooms sir, completely devoted to the Pet busines� consisting of the downstairs, three rooms from the downstairs, three quarters . MR. MARTIN: Is that the entire downstairs? MR. ENDERS: No sir, there is a large kitchen downstairs which I eat my meals and prepare meals and spend some time in. MR. MARTIN: Alright. iMR. GASTEIGER: How about the basement? MR. ENDERS: The basement is a large open basement which would be ideal for storage but because I'm such a small business man and carry so little merchandise, I don' t need that storage and I don' t think that it looks like it in the future that I'm going to acquire that for that. So it consist of my own personal belongings which are very few at this time. MARTIN: How much traffic does your pet store bring to you every day? I mean conceivably that' s relevant inquiry, it' s not something on which we had testimony. How many people come in a day ENDERS: Not enough. MARTIN: But how many? ENDERS: Some days I have zero customers, I had two of last wee consisting I think it was Tuesday and Wednesday of zero business. j� 11 11 ! I do have a constant sometimes flow of youngsters from the school. In this quiet residential area which I live, right across from the is a large school, and a GIAC building which is not too quiet a lotl of the time. I don' t object to it, I think it' s nice to have people getting together and having group organizations and things. Other than that, no, I don' t have too many customers and when they do come in the store, they do not come in troves, or big amounts, it' s one or two at a time, usually it' s a mother or one of the parents or sometimes both the parent bringing in a child to pick over maybe a first pet consitting of a house pet. All the I ipets which I do have are home pets, inside the house. IMR. MARTIN: Could you describe your inventory? We've been told that you have a seven foot snake and guinea pigs? MR. ENDERS: Yes sir, I do have guinea pigs. I had to sell the snake on opening day, it was the first thing sold out of my store, Ion a Saturday February 7, approximately 9:30 in the morning. Since I then I've had an amazing request from people who live here, and I mean right there in that area, who have snakes, who would like to get other kinds who are in the market for selling their own snakes and would like to sell through my shop. MR. MARTIN: So, you anticipate dealing in snakes and what else? MR. ENDERS: I guess I don' t anticipate so much dealing with snakes because I don' t handle them. I'm not too fond of them. If a person has a snake, I would handle it this way, especially since I've heard of the problems. If a person really wants to sell a snake, I have a bulletin board in the front, where you first enter and they could put that on. I could see that it would not be advisable for me to carry a lot of snakes or creepy crawling critters because of my neighbors and I don' t want to offend them. That wasn' t the idea of having my shop. KASPRZAK: Do you keep any pets in the basement? ENDERS: I have a pair of birds, one pair, which belong to me and these are show birds. It' s very small- they are not large, the are not for the business or devoted to the business. GASTEIGER: I still don' t have a good picture of the inventory. Could you just go on with other species and roughly. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . i 12 MR. ENDERS: I' ll tell you exactly what I carry because it' s really not that much. The basic thing that I carry and offer in the shop is tropical fish consisting of 10 gallon aquariums. I carry the largest selection here in the Ithaca area, at the lowest prices. By doing so, having this my home shop. It consists of 40 tanks. Forty individual tanks. In each tank there is usually one variety, because I don' t mix them together. Also I have bunnies which consist of baby bunnies because no one is going to walk into the store and buy a large rabbit. I don' t care how cute it looks or what color it is. I have guinea pigs, when I can keep them in stock, small hamsters, gerbils and occasionally white mice, which is a good thing to carry because there are so many people in the area that come in to buy what they call snake food. If I don' t carry this I just loose walk in and walk out business. I've carried parakeets, singing cannaries and finches. And a pair of lovebirds, right now I have them on display which I don' t always carry in stock because of the overhead and the expense. I can' t afford it simply as that. MR. GASTEIGER: Could we go back to the parking , what happens on a Saturday in terms of parking? MR. ENDERS: Well it' s good, Saturday is a good time because the jschool is not open and when the school is open the parking in front of the house which is two hour parking, is not being enforced. The cars are parked there all day. They come in, they go to work in the morning, I watch them go into the school and watch them come out at night. If the parking was enforced, the two hour restriction, there wouldn' t be a problem at all. But on Saturday, the people that are accustomed to coming to my shop are aware that they have a big parking lot right across from the GIAC, which they are using for their parking. This has been very helpful and then again I don' t have an overflex of people. The people who live next door, my neighbors for example the Leonard' s, they don' t own a car they take a taxi coming and going. MR. GASTEIGER: But you haven' t given any numbers say for a Saturday, or what might be a typical number of customers by car? MR. ENDERS: The total a day? MR. GASTEIGER: Yes. IE 13 MR. ENDERS: A good day would be 30 customers on a Saturday. I'm open Saturday from 9 till 9. It' s not like they all come in between 2 or 3 hours of business. MRS. WOOD: Mr. Enders, do you agree with Mr. Leary that it wou-U be impossible to have off street parking at this location? (MR. ENDERS: I' ll be honest with you, I'm so informed, I don' t have the knowledge of even whatoff street parking is. I've never 1 lived in the city, I come from the country. 'MRS. WOOD: Parking on the lot on which the house is located. MR. ENDERS: I don't think that there is any room for any house in that area. They are cramped so tight together to park anything. IMRS. WOOD: Mr. Leary said that areas of the house other than the first floor were used for the Pet Shop, is that false? MR. ENDERS: Yes. I don' t understand where Mr. Leary got alot of his grievance because I do not know the gentleman, I've never met , the gentleman, I don' t recall him ever being in my business or home. DR. GREENBERG: Mr. Enders did you lease this property? MR. ENDERS: I rented this place from Henry Richardson. DR. GREENBERG: Did you sign a lease? MR. ENDERS: Yes sir, for a dear. DR. GREENBERG: The lease is for a year? MR. ENDERS: The lease did not go through until I went to the Board, until I talked to Mr. Jones and Mr. VanCort and I actually saw and talked with Mayor Conley about this before we even signed the lease or he wanted me to go into this lease to see if we had permission to have the shop. DR. GREENBERG: Primarily it is not a residence? MR. ENDERS: Oh yea, I need a place to live and I do live in more of the house than the business. I think that there is a mistake on the fact that the business quality of it. People don' t come in every day and need to buy pets or fish. But when -they do things have to be kept up and healthy so that when a person does buy it they don' t take it home and it dies on them. That is what consists of most of my time and the home when I'm not in scizool, is taking care of the right for the animals and the fish. MR. GASTEIGER: Are you maintaining then that special skills are irequired?l 1 i 14 MR. ENDERS: Yes, the only person who would ever say that, I can' t remember the term, I'm sorry but that it takes no skills but some- one ,rho has never raised the proper animal properly or had fish and taken care of them properly. MR. GASTEIGER: Do you breed animals there? MR. ENDERS: No, I do not breed animals there. MRS . WOOD: Mr. Enders , would you care to comment upon the one provision of a home .occupation, is as Mr. Leary repeated, a conditi n �of home occupation that it be clearly incidential and accessory or secondary to the use of the dwelling unit for residential purposes? (�MR. ENDERS : To simplify that you are saying is again MRS . WOOD: Is the pet shop clearly incidential to your residence? MR. ENDERS: Yes, it really is . First of all I didn't really know ifpeople wouldlike the idea or even come there to purchase fish or small pets and. . . . . . . . . . MRS . WOODs So your arguement is that this might have failed and therefore it is clearly incidential? MR. ENDERSs Well, yea I 'm not quite surg could you rephrase that again? MR. MARTIN: When your business becomes so successful that you are drawing 50 people a day and that it has spread up to the second floor, at some point it's no longer incidential to the use as a residence. MR. ENDERS: Mr. Martin, I 'll honestly say that it will not spread any further than what it is , unless I go into a commercial area because you couldn't handle it properly and again it 's not within the ordinance. If my business was that successful. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . MR.MA RTIN: Ok, so your arguement is that because of the small number of people who come, at the moment your business is incident al. MR. ENDERS: Right, and the people who do come and normally if the come on time and if it's good for me they come back, and bac$, and back and it's usually word to mouth, they tell someone and they cone in. So, I 'm beginning to know quite a few of my customers quite well. I MR. KASPRZAKs Mr. Enders, we are here to decide whether it is a home occupation or not. You very comfortably keep referring to it as a business, if you do call it a business, I 'm afraid that I 'll 15 have to go against you on these basis . R. ENDERS : To me it is a big business because I 've never had a business . I don't have the definitions of business and home. . . . . R. KASPRZAKs I know, I 'm sympathetic to your predicament in that situation as you describe it but we still have to make a decision and it's very difficult for me to make a decision whether it's a home occupation or not if you who is before us as a petitioner in a sense keep referring to this business . MR. ENDES s I see. R. KASPRZAKs I 'm not trying to put words into your mouth, I 've lbeen listening for the last ten minutes or so and you constantly do that. MR. ENDERS : I see, well, I understand what you're saying. It's a small home business or an occupation. I don't know the terminolgy is . I don't have the big words or the learning to that. But it's not bery big. RS . WOOD: Greg, a real estate broker is an acceptable and that's a business. MR. MARTIN: You alluded to discussion with the building commission )r and perhaps other city officials, our role in interpretating the ordinance is to hear in effect of appeals from intrepretations or determinations or decisions of the building commissioner. Could you elaborate on the extent to which you got in advance intrepret- ation or laid the problem before the building commissioner at that point before you committed yourself to it? R. ENDERS : Well, it was very simple , I thought about having a pet shop or opening a small business of that nature, because I 've been to a couple of home businesses concerning tropical fish and small pets. Ithaca doesn't have this and the things that are in Ithaca now consist of two very highly priced shops. Which I can't afford to buy pets for my children myself, so I thought if I could open something and try to get alot of my supplies from local people who live in Ithaca, then I 'd be able to have lower prices. By doing th s I started getting this together and a friend of mine came in who is a teacher over in the school right across from where I 'm living and told me that you need to go and get permission from the zoning boarl. I 16 Khen I went there I talked to Mr. Jones and he explained pretty much and we went over the ordinance and he did not say that you can have a pet shop and didn't say you can't have a pet shop. Then we went in to talk with Mr. Van@ort get his opinion and then a few days later I went to talk with Mayor Conley because I was quite confused. The Mayor told me that for this type of business , I didn't need to go in the first place to the zoning board because in a R-3 zone you can have a small home occupation. So there again I was confused on what's what. I really don't know, I just went on the basis that the people in there in the positions do know and I listened and I tried to follow it very carefully. Obviously, I di(tri't do so well. I 'm here on the basis because Mr. V anCort called me and said that he was sick at home and that is why he wasn't able to be reached. I think that he has a little touch of what I have here. He said that if I could come in and maybe answer some of the questions . MR. GASTEIGER: Suppose we assumed that you have done some things that may not be corwentional and part of a home occupation then you are forced to contract. I 'm talking about maybe the signs , someone claims that it glares , the advertisement which sound very commercial and maybe there is some other aspects of this . I suppose that I should define them a little bit better but I 'm just curious to kno wht this would do to you, if you wanted to call this a home occupation. How essential are these commercial aspects to your operation to your success? MR. ENDERSs Nobody knows where you are, they certainly are not going to come there. I mean people have to locate me now and if i wasn't for that sign which is a 2 by 221 under the zoning ordinance they wouldnot find me at all, I 'm sure. So I think that it is pretty important to me to have the sign and at the size that it is and to do some type of advertising. People who sell dogs out of their house put in the Ithaca Journal, under Pet Shops or Pet Supplies or pet something that is an advertisement too and I can't see where that is conflicting at all sir. MR. MARTINS Are there further questions from members of the Board DR. GREENBERG: You mentioned the kitchen which you use personally I� but wouldn't it be impossible to house all these animals the I i 17 I hamsters , gerbils or the rabbits without the kitchen facility. The water, the ability to prepare food for them. The ability to clean out their trays and their cages? MR. ENDERS : Most the cleaning and the feeding is all done in the shop, I do not move them out of the shop to do this, I have them in theaquariums for the idea of cleanliness for that. There is no reason to move anything out of the shop to clean it, including my fish tanks. I do not pick them up physically or in any other way I and move them out of the shop. MR. MARTIN: The question is whether the kitchen is not essential i to your business operation as it is also a use essential to your living? MR. ENDERS : Oh, I do use water. Water does come from the kitchen. DR. GREENBERG: I have two cats and I know the question of their, they are very hygienic but they do need their litter changed. But they need a place where their litter is cleaned. They need a tray in which to feed. . . . . . . . . MR. ENDERS : I do not carry cats , and that is one of the major reasons . IDR. GREENBERG: I 'm just referring to mammals . . . . . . . . . . . . MR. ENDERS: Nor dogs. The animals I do carry come in either, amall containers such as an aquarium which is easily taken care of right there where they are located. I realize myself, I do not have the facilities for this type of animal. It goes out and moves around like that. These are animals that people have themselves, where children as smell pets in the home. They don't take up a big space or normally not kept in the kitchen. My home, where I 've got my pets, is cleaner than alot of peoples homes and I can say that honestly and you can come seven days a week and check it out anyone is welcome to come there. I 'm open till 9 o'clock. R. GREENBERG: That isn't exactly what I 'm saying sir, I 'm saying that you need the place to provide the equipment and the wherewithal or cleanliness and it doesn't come from within the frame work of he three bedrooms or the three rooms that you are using for the ownstai.rs area, that's all that I 'm saying, you can't use the thre yeas for the pets but obviously you need a place where cleaning i 123 I� supplies and all the cleansing that has to be done to keep this immaculate and spotless and hygienic, you need a place for that. MR. ENDERS: I use the same facilities to clean my house. I use a mop and odorless soap. I use it in the other rooms , it's nothing exceptional it's nothing that every other home doesn't have. . . . . . . I 'm sure. ` MR. MARTIN: Mr. Leary, you had a question too? MR. LEARY: No, I think that Mr. Enders indicated that he is using fall of the first floor which is half of the habitable area of the house, for the operation pet shop which is clearly a predominant use and the front porch and the outside windows. MR. MARTIN: Are there further questions from members of the Board? MR. VANMARTER: Sir, Gan you describe to me anything less that goes Ion in your house that I might go into the store and see. I see merchandise, I see it being replaced, I see it being cared for, I see it being sold and carried away and I see it being restocked. Is there anything less than that that goes on in your operation? MR. ENDERS: I 'm sorry, I 'm not quite sure. MR. VANMARTER: I go into a normal retail store, I see an ad in the paper, I see a sign in the window, I walk in and they have merchand se. Being cared for, being packaged, being cleaned, being sold, being carried away, it's being replaced. Is there anything less than that operation that goes on in your home? MR. ENDERS: I don't understand why I said what Mr. Leary put in my mouth, these words that he uses. Like where I said I use the whole downstairs for my shop? R. MARTINS Well it's an interpretation that he is putting on the facts. The Board has been asking you about what use you make of the kitchen and other parts of the downstairs. If there are no further questions then we will proceed to anyone wlse who wishes to speak on Mr. Enders behalf that is to say in opposition to the intrepretation which has been requested. R. DON ENDERS : People of the Board, my name is Don Enders . I'm the father of Dannie and I 'm not going to say very much because I 'm of familiar with all of these proceedings either as the other gentleman who spoke first seems to be well equiped with what to say 19 and not to say. But I know how hard Dan has worked to prepare all of this and it seems like this gentleman just came up here to be- little the Board of what they are trying to do, He seems to know exactly what he is saying, which is fine but, I just wonder how partial some of these Board members are because I 've noticed a gentleman and one of the other fellows jut keep looking at each other and grinning on different remarks that my son has made or tried to make and he isn't an accomplished speaker any more than II am and I just wonder, you know he used to be on this Board maybe not with all you folks but he admitted himself that he used to be on the Board here and I just hope that Dan is going to get a fair shake. That's all that I 'd like to say because he has put alot of money, a lot of time into this and if he has to move it, I don't want anything illegal done which you people probably all will do right but as Dan has spoke to that his place is just as clean as a blot of places that I have been in in this town myself. If there is any doubt like the gentleman in question that's doing all the talking, he's probably never been in the shop if he wanted to go in there an then came out and spoke about it, he's only going on heresay if he has never been in there and I have been in there, so that's all that I wish to say. MR. MARTIN: Mr. Enders , you can be assured that the Board will be impartial in the case. MR. DON ENDERS: Well, I hope I made it clear like that. MR. MARTIN: And I believe Mr. Leary was referring to some other Board of Zoning Appeals . R. LEARY: Anarbor, Michigan, if the Board would like to be clear on that. R. DON ENDERS: The way I took it or intepreted it was that he was on this Board helms at one time when he was in Ithaca. R. MARTIN: Some other city, some other time. R. DON ENDERS : Well, I 'm awful sorry then I don't mean no dis- respect because he is a accomplished speaker, he seemed to me. You know he knows what he's talking about and he seems to know the rdinances and things but he did seem to belittle some of what is going on here which I don't feel is right and that's the way I 'nterpretated it. T • I 20 I s MR. MARTIN: Thank you very much. MR. DON ENDERS : Thank you. MR. MARTIN: Is there anyone else who wishes to be heard on this case? If not that concludes the public hearing on case 1112. The Board will now go into executive session and reconvene with their findings. I 21 I BOARD OF ZONING APPEALS , CITY OF ITHACA, EXECUTIVE SESSION APRIL 5 , 1976 i APPEAL # 1112 Mr. Martin moved that the Board adopt the following interpretation of home occupation as it applies to the testimony about the propert at 325 North Albany Street. Subsection C of the definition of home occupation requires that the occupation or profession be "clearly incidential and assessory or (secondary to the use of the dwelling unit or residential purposes, " (according to the testimony about the current use of the house at 325 N. Albany a retail operation occupying a major portion of the ! first floor, advertising to the general public, and open long hours is being carried on. Such use is not in our judgement "clearly incidential and assessory or secondary. " Mr. Kasprzak seconded the motion. VOTE: Yes - 6 No - 0 The Board upheld thisdecision. I l if T 7 T r g m T n T , ( T4P T,9TTI\T qr,TTTTJ DO r-"PPTTVV tbpt T took the minutes of tbp i. -POAPTI� OP 70T\TTT\Tr- JPP7Aj,' ("TTVOF TTHACA in the matters of Appeplsi No. 11021 11-10, 1.111, and. 17-1? on A-pril 5, 1976, at City 'Fall, _ty of TthpC.q , Nel,� York that T have transcribed. same, and the f ore P-o in s- is P true copy of the transcript of the minutes of the 1 meeting and the 7x9cutive Session ofthe 'bard of 7oning Anneals , (7ity of Tthpcp , on the above date, and_ the whole thereof to the ); best of my ability. (Thristinp Smith Pecording Secretary qi,,rorn to before me this 71 D day 0 f 1976. P Notary Public 01 N,'W York Qu 31i;lcd in Tcm;k.neC7 Mach 3059