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j BOARD OF ZONING APPEALS
COMMON COUNCIL CHAMBERS
CITY' OF 1THACA NEW YORK
JUNE 7 , 1982
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; APPEAL NO. 1442 Jason Fane 1
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( APPEAL NO. 1442 Executive Session 13
11APPEAL NO. 1437 Michael A. Skibinski 14
i� 205-207 East Yates Street
{ APPEAL NO. 1437 Executive Session 15
!,! APPEAL NO. 1438 Edward C. Devereux 16 f
j 142 Hawthorne Place j
11APPEAL NO. 1438 Executive Session 18
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iAPPEAL NO. 1439 David Lorenzini 19 j
303 Hillview Place
IAPPEAL NO. 1439 Executive Session 20
; APPEAL NO. 1440 Geoffrey R. Banfield 21
803-805 Cascadilla Street
; APPEAL NO. 1440 Executive Session 22
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' APPEAL NO. 1441 Kathleen Loehr-Balada 23
! 303 Richard Place
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! APPEAL NO. 1441 Executive Session 24
j: APPEAL NO. 1442 Jason Pane 1
119-121 Dryden Road
, APPEAL NO. 1442 Executive Sesssion 13
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IIAPPEAL NO. 1443 Withdrawn by� appellant
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; APPEAL NO. 1444 Kenneth and Antoinette bangerter 25
120 Columbia Street
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APPEAL NO. 1444 Executive Session 25 1
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" APPEAL NO. 1445 To be heard in July
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i1APPEAL NO. 1446 Vasil ,os and Ruth Zikakis 27 i
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416 Elmira Road
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APPEAL NO. 1446 Executive Session 36
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BOARD OF ZONING APPEALS
COMMON COUNCIL CHAMBERS
CITY OF ITHACA NEW YORK
JUNE 73, 1982 r
;, CHAIRMAN WEAVER: I ' ll call this hearing to order. This is a
,, formal public hearing for a number of cases listed on the agenda.
;' First I 'd like to introduce our Board: Donna Ward
Bette Bagnardi
Peggy Haine
Charles Weaver, Chairman
William Wilcox (arrived at ;
7 : 45 P.M. )
Peter Dieterich, Acting
Secy $ Dep. Bldg Comm.
Barbara Ruane , Recording
Secretary
Absent : Toni Bush Stevenson
,; This hearing is under the rules of the Charter and Ordinances of
the City of Ithaca. The Board will not be bound by strict rules
''sof evidence in the conduct of the hearing but the determination
, shall be founded upon sufficient legal evidence to sustain the
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same . We request that all participants identify themself as to
', name and address and confine their discussions to pertinent facts
of the case under consideration. We will also ask anyone who
( gives testimony to come forward to this microphone so that your
;' testimony will be recorded properly. If you make comment from
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' the audience it will not be a matter of record and will just delay ,
the hearing. Cases will be heard in numerical order as listed
and after hearing all cases the Board will retire into executive
'; session. Upon conclusion of that executive session the Board will
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: reconvene into public hearing and interested parties may receive
;' verbal information as to the results of any decisions. We have
;; just a quorum ordinarily there are six members of the Board
;'. and we have just a quorum that will require four positive votes
'ito sustain an action. I ' d like to call the first case please.
BOARD OF ZONING APPEALS
COMMON COUNCIL CHAMBERS
CITY OF ITHACA NEW YORK
JUNE 7 , 1982
ie ACTING SECRETARY DIETERICH: The next case is appeal number 1442 :
Appeal of Jason Fane for an area variance under
Section 30. 25 , Columns 4 , 5 , 10, 12 , 13 and 14
for deficiencies in off- street parking , off-
street loading , maximum lot coverage , minimum
setbacks for both side yards , and minimum rear
yard setback, to permit construction of a one-
story retail building at 119-121 Dryden Road.
The property is located in a B-2a use district ,
in which the existing use for retail is permitted;
however, under Section 30. 25 the appellant must
obtain an area variance for the listed deficien-
cies before a building permit can be issued for
the new construction.
; CHAIRMAN WEAVER: Now, your case has just been called and read - i�
';, you would like to speak in favor of your application, you are on.
'! You have to come up to the front here , this mike is on, is attached
,, to the tape recorder so we will be able to get your testimony on
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tape.
MR. FANE: My name is Jason Fane, I live at 133 N. Quarry Street
, in the City of Ithaca. This is an application for permission to
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= construct a one-story retail building in the 100 block of Dryden
!i Road - that is between Eddy Street and College Avenue and it is
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idirectly opposite the proposed Performing Arts Center which Cornell
is talking about building and also the proposed parking ramp that
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the City is going to build. And the key issue as I see it here
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=` is that under the present zoning what is a very important site -
;potentially one of the critical sites in Collegetown is so restric
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;, ted that the land would have to be vastly under-utilized because
of the multiplicity of restrictions - there is no single restric- i
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;: tion but when you take the parking requirement which would be
obviated if the City built the parking ramp and the side lots and
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the rear lot and the percentage of lot coverage and there are some ;
;; other requirements which you mention - it' s only possible to build !
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on a small percentage of the lot and my architect, Mr. Sharma, will;',
Abe giving a more technical presentation of these points . And yet
' despite this current zoning situation I think there is a consensus :
;' that has been reached by the Common Council , by vote of 10 to 2
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:: and by the City Planning Department which is working to promote
% development in Collegetown that the time has come for a renaissance;
. in this important area right at the entrance to our great univer-
' sity, Cornell . So the thrust of this application is to make it
,possible for me to go ahead within the spirit of what I think the
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City Government has decided that they want to do - what Cornell
;,wants to do - what the Council has voted 10 to 2 they would like
+ to see happen and to build a building which is for use which is
;; consistent with the area. It is already a commercial district,
; there is no question about use and for a project which is consis-
tent with and actually is smaller than the kind of project that
'!has been approved by this Board for other owners in the immediate
:; area. I understand that you approved for Mr. Lambrou on the corner,
!of the same block - a four-story building with no set backs of
iany kind, you also approved the Turk Brothers , a one-story building;
;;again with no set backs of any kind, and I understand from Mr.
Avramis that you approved a five-story building and these are all
within maybe 100 or 200 feet so that it seems to me I am currentiX
i.n the position where I am being discriminated against by what
;;would be called spot zoning if someone were to request this kind
of differential zoning and therefore I request that you approve
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this. My architect, Mr. Sharma, will make the presentation and
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we will both be here to answer questions and then maybe I 'll sum up
:;ia little bit. Thank you for listening.
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'' MR. SHARMA: My name is Jagat Sharma and I live at 110 Maplewood
Drive in Ithaca, New York. I have a set of drawings. I 'm the
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,` architect on the project. The project we have is a proposed build-
ling at 119-121 Dryden Road. It is located right in the heart of
' Collegetown - College Avenue , Eddy Street and Dryden Road. Now
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the location of this property is very important for all develop-
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.!ment that has to take place in the collegetown area and we are
,. aware of all the studies that have been taking place over the last ]
jeight - nine years . We are also aware that some are under way andf
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;!some are being undertaken by the Planning Department and this is
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to incorporate a master plan for Collegetown development, in con-
junction with what Cornell proposes to build a Performing Arts
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;Theater. Now because of the importance of the site of our proposal
it is in no way negating what the master plan - or what discussion
;!that we have had with the city Planning Board. In fact we are in
ktotal agreement - what they want to do and what we are proposing
to do. The basic disagreement that we have so far is the timing
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! of the project and I ' ll go into detail on that. Now after I bought;
;'the property - it is located in the B- 2a zone and our building is
None-story building which will be used for commercial retail sub-
,divided into five or six small stores , so as far as the land use
'is concerned we are in total compliance with the Board of Zoning.
i'But we are not in compliance with the other requirements of the
zoning . We are not in compliance with the parking requirements ,
' the lot coverage , the front yard - the front yard is in compliance „
the side yard and the rear yard. Now before we came to the conclu-
! sion, we studied the site , we made a total investigation of the
;various requirements by the Zoning Ordinance and we come to a very
estrange conclusionthat on the site that if we allow the fiveI
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feet side yard on one side and the ten feet side yard on the other ;
.; side and fifteen percent in the back, we get a building that can
cover 68. 37% . Now that doesn't comply with the lot coverage. So
iwe said, okay, lot coverage of 50% , we go to 50% - then we get a
building that is much smaller. But, doing that , then we do not
'. comply - we have no way to provide the required parking spaces at
one car space per 500 square feet of the building. Now to comply -'
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that part of the requirement - we get a building that is 42 . 82% .
Now in the final picture - to comply with everything that the Zon-
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sing Ordinance requires we get a building which is 42 . 82% which is
less than the 50% minimum for the particular site. Now we have !
'two reasons for it not going along with 42 . 82% building. First
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, is economic. To buy a site in today' s interest rates and just to
,,build 43% , just to round it off, building is not an incentive to
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''build in today' s market. The owner is paying a mortgage at high
';interest rate and development of taxes and everything else, so that
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', is one of the reasons that we think that the present Zoning Ordi
;finance is kind of obsolete if you want to see some kind of develop-
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ment in the Collegetown area. Second is , and I think we have a
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ktotal agreement with the city planning Board, that if we build only!
43% building, we can - there is - not denying of the fact - that
we don' t even have to come here , we can go ahead and build a build-!
;Jing of 43% but that is not our intention. We want to comply, at
;least work in the same direction that the Planning Board is working}
,,!and that is to not put a small building in a big parking lot. We
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!`want to see something on Dryden Road that will reinforce the street;,
we want to see something that will create some kind of a continuity
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'of pedestrian traffic between College Avenue and Eddy Street and
!we had discussions with the Planning Board and they are in agreement
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and precisely for the very reason. They are ready to study the
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`; Zoning Ordinance and make a recommendation that this will be
! changed because another small building is not what is needed in the'
Collegetown area. So in our proposal we are proposing a building
(which will cover 93% . We are leaving six feet rear yard in the
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' back - that will be , if the building gets divided into several small
1retail stores , it will be the second means of egress and the owner
owns the property on the right side or the left side of the prop
erty facing it . Then you can connect this rear yard through the
;,present side yard of the next property which is under the same
ownership and provide the required means of egress to the street in
.case of emergency. We are not providing any parking , any side yard]
;,and we are covering more of the lot. Now let' s take one by one .
;`parking - the kind of traffic that this building is going to gen-
erate is merely the existing pedestrian traffic.. It is not going
11.to generate - it is very small building on a very small lot - it
pis only five or six stores . Basically the people who will be using!
;'the stores will live in the area, they are not going to be any
new cars coming in and creating a traffic problem, We all know,
;'depending upon various experiences and over twelve years - I have
never had the problem in Collegetown to park but some people have,
'but even if there is a problem, this site is not going to solve
'parking problems of the Collegetown area. So what we are saying
i,s , the type of building that we are putting up is not going to
'increase the deficiencies , if there is any, in terms of parking.
`Jt is going to show— the studies done by the American City Corp. ,
"the studies done earlier and several other - that there is a need
for more commercial retail space in the Collegetown area - it is
agoing to fulfill that demand n it is: going to provide the much
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;• needed retail spaces and with 93% coverage , it will also be attrac
tive and give incentive to the owner to go ahead with the project.
Now as far as the lot coverage and the side yard requirements are
,': concerned, we already dealt with it in the sense that we could meet;
' with them but the building would be only 43% and moreover it is ourl
`'feeling that in a commercial zone, what does a side yard do - a
five foot side yard or a ten foot side yard? They become like dark';
alleys - people get - they give rise to crime or don' t give rise
!to , but they become one of the spaces where crimes can be committed;.
,,'We have incidentally, only 5/18/82 when a man got beaten and robbed;
din a State Street alley and we don' t want to create more of that
;;kind of thing in the Collegetown area. We are not building a struc'-
;ture that will in any case be a hazardous condition for its tenants!
we are proposing a building which will be modest and handsome -
, it will create a kind of pedestrian feeling in the retail spaces
i�and the kind mostly that we want to see, We are not building
;;just a box - a one-story box which will be just block and a couple
; of doors - we are very sensitive to the location of the site and we
are going to work a long time and pay attention to the details and
:architectural design of it and even the meeting that we had with
;;the planning Departm ent, they were quite happy with the efforts
;,that we had made . Now what options do we have? And T have said
!it many times that we have no disagreement with the city Manning
;Department but there is one , which is the timing. Now we cannot do
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;;one thing - we can go ahead and build 43% building which will , l
!Think in some way negate and undermine the efforts of the city P1anf-
6ning Board because once the building is there , you dontt demolish
; and get something else. The 'second choice is that we build a smal�
;ler building on a modular basis that six months later we can add toy
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it. Now if it is a matter of six or eight months , and we don' t
have a time table from them. Now at the end of their report , they
come up with the same conclusion that we need a bigger building
' than we already have that proposal and we are losing a building
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'; season. But we could build a smaller building on the modular basis;
,'but it is not an economically sensible way to do it . You build a
`:building and in six months you tear it down, walls , floors , ceil-
ings , lighting , mechanical , everything and then I say (unintell) ,
;;now we got the zoning, we can do it . So that doesn' t make any
`' sense. The fourth option is to apply for the area variance and
''hopefully get it and build a bigger building that everybody wants
Ito see . Of course, in a Planners like these days I mean in the
' construction business any project will create jobs locally and
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;, this project is ready to go and it takes several different things
for a project to happen. You can have a master plan and you can
illhave a study done by the Planning Board or any consultant and he
';can come up with a report saying that we need a seven or eight
;: story high building but what will the building contain? Where will
lithe property onwer where will the money come from? Now what can ;
; the Collegetown substantiate right now? Retail or housing? Retail;
!! as we all know, only works on the down floor only works on one
' level - we are not in a big city where you can have a big or anotheir
!Rothsch_ilds , or even higher. Now the other thing that would come
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up after the master plan report is done , is several levels of
' housing. Now the present zoning doesn' t allow that. We' ll have td,
;' change that anyway and secondly if you are a builder and you have
' a property and with all the construction that is going on in the
; apartments around the area the Cascadilla Hall , the Sheldon
; Court, and the sixty more units and there are a couple more projects
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you want to build housing, any property owner will wait and see
:;whether the market gets saturated once again. And so in the end
.' you may end up by building the same building that proposes that we
. have today. And the - if the market allows for future development ;
;; and larger buildings , there are other sites that the owner owns '
,. and there are other owners in the area, so it is not the end - it
is a very small site , important location, yes - and we want to see
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� a building there. It has been a parking lot for twelve years and
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:: that is long enough. So to conclude what we are saying is we have !
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,, a proposal here - a building ready to go , the land has been clearly,
;' bought, the money is available and if we get the variance approved
,,, today we can start construction in two months . As far as the other,
;point that the Planning Board brings up - the open design studies
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: and like to see a higher building. Now I have training in open
design from^(unintell) university and in a rolling hill , you
;! like to have a smaller building at the bottom the hill - and Dryden;
'! Road as we all know it, goes down toward Eddy Street so no matter
what you do you are going to have a lower building at 119-121 Col-
lege Avenue - or Dryden Road, so I think by this proposal we are
'; fulfilling all the '(unintell) objectives of the Planning Board may ;
shave - a few months from now but the time is today to build it.
Thank you.
, CHAIRMAN WEAVER: Stay with us just a minute, please. Are there any
!;questions from members of the Board?
'MS . HAINE : I have a question. The Planning Board had raised some
,problem about deliveries and also garbage disposal and I am con-
! cerned about those things too.
!MR. SHARMA: Yes . That is a very good question. Now the loading
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and unloading naturally one of the requirements of the Zoning Ordi-,
`! nance and we have not asked for a variance because we do intend to !
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provide it and it has to be provided even if you are not here for
the area variance. It is the function of a building design - it
is not part of our application - when we go into building design
and we feel that part of the tenants will require it , we definitely
twill provide it . The five foot side yard is not going to provide
` loading requirements - unloading or ten foot side yard for that
` matter. So we are aware of that fact and it is not a part of this ;
application, we didn' t ask for a 'variance on that particular point 'i
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because we do intend to provide if (unintell) the stay of the builc -
ing design - detail design.
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s' MS . HAINE : You do plan to provide loading. . .
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MR. SHARMA: If the type of tenants that we are going to seek in
that building require that because under the Board of Zoning if yob
:; have less than 10, 000 square feet of retail you don' t need one .
" So if we get a bigger tenant that will take most of the building wq
:, will eventually have to design the building in a particular manner
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'' that will take care of loading and unloading .
'' MS. HAINE : And how many square feet do you have now, planned, for !
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SMR. SHARMA: 7 ,814 square feet .
;SMS . HAINE: And what about trash, garbage?
MR. SHARMA: That will be, again, a function of th-e building design,
' we will provide a spot where the garbage will be picked up, The
Gpresent practice by the owner is that he doesn' t allow his tenants ;
to pile up garbage every day, They will have to have a spot
;; within their area and then bring it out on the day of the collectign.
MS. HAINE : I have just one other question, How far from the build
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ing line - is it 123? Dryden Road - the other building?
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' MR. SHARMA: From the building - it is about ten feet if I read thq
plans correctly. My information is based on the drawing I got
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;: CHAIRMAN WEAVER: Do you suggest that possibly the building that will
eventually be built will not be as large as you are proposing in
; your application, is that correct?
+ MR. SHARMA: In terms of loading and unloading requirements? Or in
;! terms of anything?
;! CHAIRMAN WEAVER: In terms of anything . I 'm looking at 93% of lot
!; coverage and if your tenants don' t meet a certain pattern, the
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building might be smaller?
MR. SHARMA: It could be , yes . But that will have to be you know
when we start renting it out and using it out - and find out from
`the extra requirements . And if there is a problem in providing an !.
;'; easy exit for the tenants or loading and unloading we will make an
..!adjustment.
ICHAIRMAN WEAVER: Well , I think it would be fair to say that as I
'understand the role of this Board we don' t have much flexibility on
::modifying an application and we ' ll take you at your word that you
11sare asking for what is in the application.
MR. SHARMA: That 's right.
;;CHAIRMAN WEAVER: Which is worse case, best case , regardless. Now
ithe other thing - the comment about the suggestions and the acti-
vities of the Planning and Development Board, we are not innovative;,
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, we are reactive in that we are tied to the requirements of the Ordi-
inance and what the law ordinarily allows for variances from that
'Ordinance. We don 't create ordinance so the legislative action
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that may be indicated by both your statements here and by the recomj-
''mendations of the Planning Board or their plans of what is going to
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' happen in the community is a function that is not held by this
Board but rather by the Common Council , upon recommendation of the ;
Planners , so for you to understand that we hear your application
' for a variance as stated.
IMR. SHARMA: Yes , we are before this Board because our proposal
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- does not comply to certain requirements and we are saying that by
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Edoing so we are not creating a building that would create any
, hazardous conditions for the tenants which also meets with the over-
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'! all objectives of the Planning Board - that is what we are saying. ;
:! CHAIRMAN WEAVER: Do you or the owner have any solid information
lto indicate the practicality of something from the legally allowed
! size building to the one you are asking for in terms of income
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lversus the cost of owning and developing the lot? T know that thisi
! is not a use variance but is there a hardship and do you have any
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? substantial information that would help guide the Board in making
' that judgement?
`'MR. FANE (from the audience) : Hardship - it would be a hardship
ion the community, because if you put up a small building, you have
less property tax, less employment - less sales tax, You'd have these
' alleys between buildings which are crime sites for various unsavory!
activities - popular places for muggings , railings , drug dealings - i
; this kind of activity, and what off-setting benefits do you have?
, That T think is the prime hardship that is to be considered.
1CHAIRMAN WEAVER: Jason, if you'd like to have this on record come ;
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>MR. FANE: If a smaller building is to be built the prime hardship
is that for the community, It means less sales tax, less property ;
tax, less employment , it means the creation of alleys which are
iprime sites for Tapings , muggings , drug dealings , other unsavory
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':,, activities and against this you have absolutely no off-setting
�ibenefits . Now we did not do any kind of economic calculation on
;, the thousands of conceivable possible alternate designs . The pro-
posed list to do this design and we have a fairly unique combina
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tion of circumstances that this job is ready to go. There are very
.; few sites that I am aware of in Collegetown where the land is
: cleared, where there are no financial obstacles , where you have an �
. owner who is ready to do something, where there appears to be a
,: market which would make the job feasible , where I have indications
Jthat a bank would finance it - I think it' s an opportunity not to i
;- be wasted and there are any number of reasons why, with the passaget
jfof time , the opportunity could disappear and they could again for
=janother twelve years , or perhaps longer, continue to be a vacant
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!! lot there . No government can make anybody build on a site , all th�y
!ican do is propose obstacles and I think, the question to be consid- €
,' ered here is that what you want to do?
CHAIRMAN WEAVER: Are there any questions from members of the Board
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! of either of these men, the owner or the architect? Thank you,
:' Is there anyone else who wishes to speak in favor of this applica- i
; tion? Is there anyone who washes to speak in opposition to this
;! application? Well have the next case.
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BOARD OF ZONING APPEALS
COMMON COUNCIL CHAMBERS I
CITY OF ITHACA NEW YORK
JUNE 7 , 1982
EXECUTIVE SESSION
APPEAL NO. 1442 :
`' The Board considered the appeal of Jason Fane for an area variance !
to permit construction of a one- story retail building at 119-121
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" Dryden Road. The decision of the Board was as follows :
MS. HAINE : I move that the Board deny the area variance requestd
in appeal number 1442.
' MR. WEAVER: I second the motion.
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',VOTE : 4 Yes ; 0 No; 1 Absent ; 1 Abstention DENIED
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: FINDINGS OF FACT:
1) Adequate parking has not been provided.
112) Failure to provide off-street loading will further congest they
100 block of Dryden Road. As indicated, the project is only
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y 93% of lot coverage which is a gross violati9n of the percen.,
tage of lot coverage requirement of the Code.
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BOARD OF ZONING APPEALS
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CITY OF ITHACA NEW YORK
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ACTING SECRETARY DIETERICH: The first case is appeal number 1437 : i
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i Appeal of Michael A. Skibinski for an area
I; variance under Section 30. 49 and Section 30 . 25 ,
Columns 4 , 10 , 11 , and 12 for deficiencies in
off-street parking, maximum lot coverage , mini-
mum front yard setback, and minimum side yard
setback, to permit the addition of a second
floor bedroom for the owner' s unit of the exist- 1
j ing two-family dwelling at 205-207 East Yates j
i Street. The property is located in an R-2b
use district, in which the use as a two-family
dwelling is permitted; however, under Section
i• 30. 49 the appellant must obtain an area variance ;
(i for the listed deficiencies before a building
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IMR. SKIBINSKI : My name is Mike Skibinski. What do you want me to
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�ICHAIRMAN WEAVER: Anything that you would like to say in support ofl
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!your appeal, Michael .
SMR. SKIBINSKI : Well , I just need the room for my house for my
�6mily.
�HAIRMAN WEAVER; By the sketch that' s attached to your appeal ,
this is a strictly an addition to the second floor that doesn' t
!go beyond the present confines of the original structure?
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R. SKIBINSKI ; Right. It is just for my own personal use not I
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,for the apartment side of the house,
CHAIRMAN WEAVER; Are there any questions from members of the Board?!
S. BAGNARDI; How long have you lived there - at 205-207 East
ates Street?
R. SKTBINSKI; I 've laved there for twelve years . I 've owned
lihe house for ten.
OS . BAGNARDI : You currently live on the entire second floor or
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�R. SKIBINSKI : No , it ' s a, duplex. �
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OS. HAINE: Is there a porch there now? I
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!'MR. SKIBINSKI : Right - just the two floors .
CHAIRMAN WEAVER: Any other questions? Alright, thank you. Is
(there anyone who wishes to speak in favor of this appeal? Is
''there anyone who wishes to speak in opposition to this appeal?
�Iwe' ll hear the next case please.
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I6PPEAL NO. 1437 :
, The Board considered the appeal of Michael A. Skibinski for an area;
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Street. The decision of the Board was as follows :
IMS. WARD: I move that the Board grant the area variance re-
quested in appeal number 1437.
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VOTE : 4 Yes , 0 No ; 2 Absent Granted.
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ACTING SECRETARY DIETERICH: The next case is appeal number 1438 :
1 Appeal of Edward C. Devereux for an area variance
under Section 30 . 49 and Section 30. 25, Columns 11
and 12 for deficiencies in minimum front yard set
back for two front yards , to permit the addition
of a carport in the front yard of the existing one-
family dwelling at 142 Hawthorne Place. The property]
is located in an R-lb use district , in which the
proposed use is permitted; however, under Sections
30. 49 and 30. 25 the appellant must obtain an area
variance for the listed deficiencies before a build-
ing permit can be issued for the carport.
CHAIRMAN WEAVER: - Please come forward.
R. DEVEREUX: Do the members present all have a copy of - oh yes ,
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I see that you do, of the proposed sketch and the lot plan, and I
Iso on. I believe that it speaks for itself plus the statement.
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If there are any questions that anyone has I would be pleased to
jury to deal with them.
CHAIRMAN WEAVER: We now have a five member board, Mr. William
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rR. DEVEREUX: This is the only feasible place on our property on
(which it would be possible to achieve an off-street parking and
carport and this plan may square would have to come much closer
to the property line than the existing zoning regulations permit.
�jBut I believe i.t could be done attractively without any either
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aesthetic affront . The area is very well shielded by existing
�Itrees and shrubs and we would plan to landscape it.
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(`CHAIRMAN WEAVER; I take it this is the present parking space that
Irou are . , .
R. DEVEREUX, There is nothing at all , , .
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IR, DEVEREUX; Nobody in that whole end of either Hawthorne or
(Crescent has- any off-street parking, We wobble back and forth, odd!
]and even, winter and summer, you explain to me why, but we do . So
the snow plow can get by in the middle of June , I think,
(CHAIRMAN WEAVER: So you propose to create one off-street parking. .
I�R. DEVEREUX: Precisely that ' s what we would like very much to do.
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iIt would actually get one car off the street - it' s rather crowded.
(,The only departure from the existing drawing that you have - some
critics have said that the elevan foot proposed width may be a bit
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my architect - simply so the car doors could swing - it would look j
(essentially as you see it there . My architect would be Kumi Korf -!
1I don' t know who my contractor would be.
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CHAIRMAN WEAVER: Any questions from any member of the Board?
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MR. DEVEREUX: Do you act on this now?
CHAIRMAN WEAVER: We don' t act on any one of these until after
e have heard all of the cases and at that time we will go into
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CHAIRMAN WEAVER: I 'd recommend against it unless you are interested.
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R. DEVEREUX: Okay. Thank you. Well I am interested obviously.
CHAIRMAN WEAVER: Well for any of you and Michael , your case - you
can call in tomorrow morning into the Commissioner' s office and get
the results - otherwise there will be a time in which we will ask
everyone to leave the room for our executive session and that may gni
on for any an undetermined length of time so your cause won' t II
be improved at all by your continued presence.
R. DEVEREUX: Well thank you all very much.
SECRETARY WEAVER; is there anyone who wishes to speak in favor of
this appeal? Is there anyone who wishes to speak. in opposition
to this appeal? We' ll have the next case.
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PPEAL NO. 1438 :
he Board considered the appeal of Edward C. Devereux for an area
ariance to permit the addition of a carport in the front yard of
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he existing one-family dwelling at 142 Hawthorne Place. The de-
vision of the Board was as follows :
4S. WARD: I move that the Board grant the area variance re-
quested in appeal number 1438 .
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OTE : S Yes ; 0 No; 1 Absent Granted
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Addition of a carport does not adversely affect the neighbor
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It does create an off-street parking space in a neighborhood
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JUNE 7 , 1982
1� ACTING SECRETARY DIETERICH: The next appeal is appeal number 14391:
!I Appeal of David Lorenzini for an area variance under
Section 30. 49 and Section 30. 25 , columns 6 , 7 , 10,
12 and 13 for deficiencies in minimum lot size , I
minimum lot width, maximum lot coverage, and minimum
'i setbacks for both sideyards , to permit the addition
of a garage to the existing house at 303 Hillview I
Place. The property is now a non-conforming three
unit apartment house ; the appellant proposes to con-
vert it to a two unit house. The property is lo-
cated in an R-lb use district in which the proposed
use as a two-family dwelling is permitted however,
!� under Section 30 .49 the a ellant must obtain an
I area variance for the listed deficiencies before a
if building permit can be issued for the garage addition'.
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IMR. LORENZINI : My name is Dave Lorenzini , I live at 303 Hillview
`Place. I 'm looking for an area variance for a garage addition i
onto the side of my home. The existing lot coverage , side yard
'isetback was 8 ' which never did comply with the 10' required for
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{'the R-lb zone. I have a three-family home which does not comply I
with an R=lb - nothing complies with R-lb - so I have to have an i
ilarea variance . The garage is going around an existing porch and
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�jextends five feet beyond the existing porch. The porch is dilapi-
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I started the garage addition and I shored up the porch without
�Igetting a building permit and started the garage.
+ICHAIRMAN WEAVER: Before you improved this porch, was there an
Doff-street parking location on your property?
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stant conflict with Morse Chain people parking in front of my
home and with the tenants so this garage is really needed for that.
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�MR. LORENZINI: Right. j
CHAIRMAN WEAVER: Are there any questions from members of the Board?
MS. BAGNARDI : When did you begin construction of the garage?
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CHAIRMAN WEAVER: No questions? Thank you, David. Is there anyone
else who wishes to speak in favor of this application? Is there
anyone who wishes to speak in opposition to this application?
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COMMON COUNCIL CHAMBERS
CITY OF ITHACA NEW YORK
JUNE 7 , 1982
EXECUTIVE SESSION
APPEAL NO. 1439 :
The Board considered the request for an area variance to permit
the addition of a garage to the existing house at 303 Hillview
Place. The property is presently a non-conforming three unit
apartment house but the appellant proposes to convert it to a two
unit house . The decision of the Board was as follows :
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�S . BAGNARDI : I move that the Board grant the area variance re-
quested in appeal number 1439.
S. WARD: I second the motion.
OTE: 5 Yes.; 0 No; l Absent Granted
INDINGS OF FACT:
1) The appellantis providing parking in a congested residential
area.
In consideration of the unusual topography of the side yard,
it does not negatively affect the neighbor on that side , or i
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Appeal of Geoffrey R. Banfield for an area variance
4; under Section 30. 49 and Section 30. 25 , Columns 11 and!
ii 14 and for deficiencies in minimum front yard setback
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tion of a 2 ,000 square foot addition to the existing j
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Street. The property is located in an I-1 use dis-
trict, in which the use for light industry is per-
mitted; however, under Section 30 . 49 the appellant
must obtain an area variance for the listed deficien-j
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MR. BANFIELD: I 'm Geoffrey Banfield and I don 't have much to say
about it. I think it might be noted that we were one of the - we
were probably the third business to move down at Cascadilla - at
the end of Cascadilla before it was a jungle. We've done a great
deal to improve it along with Old Port Harbor and a number of j
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the character of the property as well as landscape it and what not!.
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60 - 70 years ago - a long time ago , There isn't anything we can
do about that . Now we intend to extend the building to the street
line and we are supposed to be twenty feet back and we are going I
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like so we are seeking this difference there. I think the other
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}}� the city. If we hadn' t done that we wouldn' t be too short and this
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from Cascadilla Street is the only newly created . , .
MR, BANPIELD; That is correct.
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11' MS. HAINE: May I ask a question? What are you producing in this
building?
MR. BANPIELD: An orthodontic laboratory, i
MS. BAGNARDI: Behind the old building, there is an old tractor
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MR. BANFIELD: That belongs to me , yes.
� MS. BAGNARDI : Will that remain - I know it has nothing to do with )
the new building construction obviously, but will that remain on
the property?
MR. BANFIELD: Yes it will. I think until just recently within th
past, I would say nine months , that was all wooded and there is a
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fellow that has rented that Quonset but there that came through
with a bulldozer and took everything down so we are exposed at tha�
end. But I do plan this summer that the building be repainted and
there will be something done to that.
CHAIRMAN WEAVER: Any other questions from the Board? Thank you.
Is there anyone who wishes to speak in favor of this application?
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Anyone who wishes to speak in opposition to this application?
We' ll go on to the next case,
BOARD OF ZONING APPEALS
COMMON COUNCIL CHAMBERS
CITY OF ITHACA NEW YORK
JUNE 7 , 1982
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APPEAL N0. 1440 :
The Board considered the request for an area variance to permit th
construction of a 2 ,000 square foot addition to the existing light
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industrial building at 803-805 Cascadilla Street. The decision of
the Board was as follows :
MR. WILCOX: I move that the Board grant the area variance requested
in appeal number 1440.
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MS. HAINE : I second the motion.
VOTE: 5 Yes ; 0 No ; 1 Absent Granted.
FINDINGS OF PACT:
1) Deficiencies are not that critical .
2) This addition will not change the character of the neighborhoo
which is Industrial ,
3) Alternatives would result in practical difficulties by losing
` Parking spaces.
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COMMON COUNCIL CHAMBERS
CITY OF ITHACA NEW YORK
JUNE 7 , 1982
ACTING SECRETARY DIETERICH: The next appeal is appeal number 14411
�j Appeal of Kathleen Loehr-Balada for an area variance !
' under Section 30. 49 and Section 30. 25 , Column 6 , forl
deficient minimum lot size , to permit the addition o�
agarage at 303 Richard Place. The property is lo-
cated in an R-la use district, in which the existing !
i. use as two-family dwelling is permitted; however,
i; under Section 30. 49 the appellant must obtain an area
variance for the listed deficiency before a building ;
jj permit can be issued for the garage.
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Mr. Dieterich just mentioned, we do need to get a variance for they
area plans for our lot. As the design that you have in front of you
, shows , we would like a variance to build a garage on our property
Mand when we went to get the building permit we realized that the
previous owners who had gone for a building permit for the apart-
ment that now exists in our house it ' s a very small one bedroom j
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;apartment, weregranted the permit and there is a deficiency in the
area. It should be 15 ,000 square feet for a two-family residence
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in that area and there is less than that on the property and so we j
are trying to make things legal at this point, I guess I want to
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�jfill all city requirements - the set back, the side lot , etc. and
�jwill not change at all the atmosphere of the neighborhood. It is a
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+attached garages or semi.-attached. Ours will be attached by one
+small bridge to our kitchen door.
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IMS. LOEHR-BALADA: Right. No, we - my husband was looking at a houLe
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over on Snyder Hill which he had fallen in love with - it was full
of woods. He comes from Italy and wanted to get back to that kind 6f
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`{nature . But the way mortgages are these days , the cost would have
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Thome and kind of incorporate his ideas there. We have taken this
route now. The for sale sign I think should be down now - I hope
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; CHAIRMAN WEAVER: Any other questions? Thank you. Is there any I
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!i'! anyone who wishes to speak in favor of this application? Is there
janyone who wishes to speak in opposition? May we have the next
li case please?
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�IThe Board considered the appeal of Kathleen Loehr-Balada for an
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' MS . HAI'NE: I move that the Board grant the area variance re-
quested in appeal number 1441 .
' MS. BAGNARDI : I second the motion.
VOTE: 5 Yes; 0 No ; 1 Absent Granted
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ill) The proposed structure would not adversely affect the neigh-
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COMMON COUNCIL CHAMBERS
CITY OF ITHACA NEW YORK
JUNE 7 , 1982
ACTING SECRETARY DIETERICH: The next case is appeal number 1444 :
Appeal of Kenneth and Antoinette Bangerter for an
area variance under Section 30. 49 and Section 30. 25 ,
Columns 11 and 12 for deficiencies in minimum front
yard setback, and minimum side yard setback, to
permit the addition of a deck to the existing two- {
family house at 120 Columbia Street. The property
is located in an R-2a use district, in which the
existing use is permitted; however, under Section
30. 49 the appellant must obtain an area variance
{ for the listed deficiencies before a building permit
can be issued for the construction.
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iMR. BANGERTER: - I 'm Ken Bangerter, I own the property at 120
Columbia Street . The - specifically we want to add a sun deck
to the back of the house and in the changing of the zone in 1977
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the house is non-conforming as a result. It covers , I think,
about thirteen or fourteen percent of the property and the deck
�bwe want to add adds another two percent or so but it is still j
less than one-half of the allowed coverage. That steps off of
I1what we use as a sewing xoom right now but that is purely for
(lour own use. j
iCHAIRMAN WEAVER; Questions from members of the Board? Thank you. I
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Is there anyone who wishes to speak in opposition? We 'll have
Ithe next case.
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APPEAL NO. 1444 :
iThe Board considered the appeal of Kenneth & Antoinette Bangerter {
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ing two-family house at 120 Columbia Street. The decision of the
Board was as follows :
MR. WILCOX: I move that the Board grant the area variance re-
quested in appeal number 1444.
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Appeal of Vasilios and Ruth Zikakis for a use i
variance under Section 30. 25 , Column 2 , to permit
the construction of mini-storage buildings for
public rental at 416 Elmira Road. The property
is located in a B-5 use district, in which the
proposed use is not permitted; therefore the
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building permit can be issued for the proposed
buildings.
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IIMR. GALBRAITH: My name is Dirk Galbraith, I 'm an attorney, I have
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professional offices at 308 N. Tioga Street, Ithaca, New York and
� I 'm here on behalf of the appellant. The property in Question is
' known as 416 Elmira Road, it consists of a vacant lot approximate-
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bed of the Delaware and Lackawanna railroad, the Ashland Oil Com- j
� pany premises are to the rear and to the north is a large tract of
!vacant land. The property is shown in a series of photographs that
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joccupied by Ashland Oil . This property is presently zoned B-5
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;Mr. Zikakis is here this evening and I 'm going to let him explain
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lship that this property suffers is that there is no public water
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service to the property or any place near it, As I go over the
'list of permitted uses in a B-5 zone, which is actually anything in,
,a B-1 thru B-5 zone inclusive, I find really nothing in there that j
could be carried on without public water service , The project itsellf
consists _ or would consist of two storage buildings which would be'
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located on the premises as they appear in these site plans . I 've
Igot scaled down copies - you may already have copies of this, I don' t
know and also attached are interior design plans and an elevation
'showing what the buildings would look like from the exterior. I
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and the plans also provide for landscaping to the front. There are(
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tal and U-Haul-It, somewhat down Elmira Road from these premises
and also in, I understand, is a B-5 zone. In many ways this type cf
use is more like a B-5 use than an I-1 use since although its nom-
inally a warehouse type facility, which brings it within the ambit
, of an I-1 use, it is not industrial in nature . It emits no offen-
sive odors , it makes no loud noises , there is no volume of heavy
truck traffic which would be coming to and from this site . What
would be found here would be storage cubicles which members of
the community could store varying quantities of personal property
in for various lengths of time. The use , I would suggest is
one that is not only compatible with the area, but one which is
being carried on by other businesses a relatively short distance
therefrom. Mr. Zikakis has spoken to the adjoining property
owners and all of them are in favor of the concept of the project
and I don' t believe anybody is here this evening to speak one way
or another as far as they are concerned. When this matter was
before the planning Board, as you may know, the Planning Board
recommended against the project and they did it for, what I feel
was a somewhat unusual reason. The Planning Board did not have
any problem with the aesthetics of the design or the use itself,
but the believe the appellants were under the remises )
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As I 've always understood the province of zoning, it was to ensure
that uses in a particular area were compatible and were not offen-
sive to the adjoining land owners and in this case the appellants
have a project which they believe will produce a reasonable return
on a site which is really, otherwise unuseable as it is presently
zoned and I suggest that those factors being what they are, the
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intensity of the use or the lack thereof, shouldn't be held
against the appellant . Mr. Zikaki.s is here with me this evening
and I would like to have him speak to you and tell you exactly
what the concept of this project is and then perhaps we can both
answer auesti.ons .
MR, ZIKAKIS; Well the mini warehouse concept is new in maybe in
the 'last five years that it has really sprung up - it sort of
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jway. In major cities you will see them near cloverleafs , you will !
, see them any place where there is large apartment dwellings or at
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,! type of use . In some of the research that I have done , I have
! noticed that some of the laws are being changed to include mini-
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'' cause it really - although it has the word warehouse in it , and
Iit has been tied together with a warehouse, it isn' t like what
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you would imagine a warehouse would be. It doesn' t have any truck
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i1traffic, it doesn' t have tractor trailers in there and it doesn' t
11have the type of industrial use that this - in fact when I had the
idea of putting a warehouse there, the storage rooms there , I had
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Mr. Bagnardi, the architect, draw it up and I wanted it to be j
!, aesthetically pleasing and color coordinated so that it would fit
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linto the landscape well and shrub it up because the properties that
are most affected are mine across the street. We have 1 ,200 feet
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jof frontage on the Elmira Road directly across- the street from
it and if you will recall what was there before, in fact I wish I
had taken a picture there was a very ugly trailer and very clunky i
Bused cars on there and it was a sort of a side line for the pre-
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lof the area could be cleaned up and aesthetically more pleasing and!
�,to protect our investments on the other side of the street. It ' s
jla low traffic type of business, it doesn't someone will come in j
,hand put their wares into storage for three months , six months , a
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+operated from that part because it is so low key . We don' t - it
won' t be giving us a traffic hardship in any way. We mentioned,
!there is no grater on the land - I 've talked with the City before we
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lof the places don' t have water but if there was a terrible expense
! for the city to bring the water in and they would not consider
�lbringing the water in.
IMR. WILCOX: Are they going to be heated.?
SMR. ZIKAKIS: No. There will be no heat in them. There is no
heat or air conditioning or anything it is just cold storage. I
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.IIMR. ZIKAKIS : They would have to be small cars . The largest
; cubicle would be 10 x 20 - it is sort of unusual to have somebody
put a car in. There will only be eight or nine of the - those are
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1MR. WILCOX: Is that in the flood plain?
!SMR. ZIKAKIS : Pardon me?
IMR. WILCOX: Is that in the flood plain or is that part of the -
� behind the dike n doesn' t it get wet back there?
MR. ZIKAKIS: No , I've been assured that it doesn' t. I 've talked
! with the neighbors Ashland and also Mr. Haflek, the neighbor next
] door and they've assured me that they've never had any water prob- '
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IMS. WARD: What about entry in and out? Tsn't that going to be
I1hard to be seen doesn' t it just kind of nestle in against where
11t becomes the bridge?
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]because I don' t see the state removing the abutments , the way the
; state . . .
SMS. WARD: Where will the driveway be?
MR. ZIKAKIS: There is a driveway that the city put in when they
realigned the Elmira Road they put a driveway right in the middle]
of the property. The present frontage is 100 coming in but it goes)
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back and - the longer one in back and then the second one in front
with driveways in between so they can drive to the cubicles .
CHAIRMAN WEAVER: This driveway that you describe , is it the one
that is traditionally used by Ashland?
MR. ZIKAKIS: No. It has it' s own driveway. The city, when they
realigned the Elmira Road a few years ago , put driveways into all
the Elmira Road properties . i
( CHAIRMAN WEAVER: So that is south of the Ashland driveway?
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MR. ZIKAKIS: That' s right.
CHAIRMAN WEAVER: You say that the city won' t bring water is theie
sewer anywhere nearby?
IMR. ZIKAKIS : Yes there is a sewer line right in front and to the
side but there is not - the water stops at the bowling alley and
like a 20 ,000 . expense for the city to bring water over and, it ' s
they assured me that they couldn't justify bringing the water over
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CHAIRMAN WEAVER: Do you know whether You could legally have a
well there?
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MR. ZIKAKIS: There is - the neighbor has a well but there isn' t
many busineases that you could operate with a well , Also, the `
( neighbor - he is quite an enterprising young man - he is quite an
enterprising man and he has in addition to working his full time
job , he farms 65 acres behind his house , if you could believe it
( or not R but there is 65 acres there and he has punched a well or
there was a well in the backand he waters his crops when it gets
dry with that well so if you had a well , I: would assume that you
would sort of be working off the same water table and you could
find yourself in - if he has a dry period with his crops that
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youself with. very low useage or no water.
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MR. ZIKAKIS: No, for any project. I had it was an open request - i
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CHAIRMAN WEAVER: Counselor, is you say that this property is j
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�! MR. GALBRAITH: Well the property closest to the south is owned byl
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the Finger Lakes Park Commission and, of course, they aren' t into
any kind of development . The property directly across the street
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that runs down Spencer Road, as I understand. Then the nearest j
property which has been developed is the property that was a j
bowling alley and now its Steller Stereo. j
IMR. ZIKAKIS: The vacant lot has no water my vacant lot - there
, is an acre connected to the dealership where the miniature golf
course was years ago - that has no water either.
CHAIRMAN WEAVER: Well I 'm trying to direct you toward whether thin
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Mother owners that suffer the same restrictions. j
1IMR, GALBRAITH: Well I think at least in terms of the vacant lot tq
` the north is unique because if that property .. the size that it is ,1
jwere ever developed it would be economically feasible to bring water
, the short distance one would have to bring it from the area of what
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':property is quite small and it is even further removed from the
source of water and it is just not economically viable to try to I
bring water that distance to a property that is approximately a
third of an acre in size. I'd like to add one other thing that I
` thought of that Iforgot to mention. The planning Board in review ,-
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ling this, had the impression that the project would not add anything
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(' searched the question and the rentals of these cubicles is a taxable
item under the tax laws of the State of New York, Mr, Zikakis esti`-
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fIma=tes that at full occupancy the monthly revenues would be 2 ,500.
`land these would be subject to sales tax as I read the law.
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!MR. GALBRAITH Yes I think some of the landscaping is depicted on
,Ith.e plot plan itself and we had volunteered at the time we were
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m ing any landscape design that they might suggest. I would certain
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is import property, you will see a lot of landscaping - not only what ''
lithe city put in but what we put in ourselves from mature trees and
11even to the interest to the dealership that really can' t be seen
from the road, there is two beautiful trees. But we have been
' pretty particular about the aesthetics of the dealership. We
think the eye appeal is awfully important especially in Ithaca,
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j CHAIRMAN WEAVER: You being a long term tenant out there, is that I
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! same size cut as I have coming into the whole Chevrolet dealer
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CHAIRMAN WEAVER: I was hoping to answer the possible question
Iiabout whether this is a good place for cars to exit and enter
] route 13 traffic.
MR. GALBRAITH: perhaps I could ask a question that might clear
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something up on that . Bill, what do you estimate the daily traffi
volume to th.e facility would be when it was at full occupancy?
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14f you'd have a car a dayAn there you'd be surprised - you know - I
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ithey are just not going to leave them for a week. Your smallest
] rental would be a month I would imagine . So you really shouldn't
! have any, traffic,
MR. GALBRAITH: Where would the office facility for the building
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MS. WARD: The road is two lane where the driveway is?
MR. ZIKAKIS : It comes to two lane, yes .
IMS. WARD: At that point it is a two lane road?
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pMR. ZIKAKIS: Right. But no matter what we put in there, even if
it was a conforming use by the way the law is written now, it stil
would be a traffic problem except if you had more traffic .
MS. WARD: all the way down to where it opens into
four lanes?
MR. ZIKAKIS: I 'm sorry?
MS. WARD: Your property is not on any of the area where it is fou
lane?
MR. ZIKAKIS: Oh yes, my property - most of the 1, 200 feet that we
have is on - it narrowed there intentionally because of the viaduct
and then when they removed the viaduct they still left the abut-
ments . I 've heard that future plans have been that maybe someday
they were going to widen that at the time but of course when they
built the Elmira Road, the viaduct was a working viaduct - trains
, would go on it . Now you know, it has been removed and it ' s all
been abandoned. But they still left the abutments . We are hoping
that someday they will come with a big ball and chain and knock i
those down, and open up the whole Elmira Road.
MR. GALBRAITH: If I could add something this kind of points out
one of the inconguities of the planning Board' s recommendation be-
cause they recommended a higher intensity use for this particular
spot which I think would generate precisely the traffic problem
that you foresee and I think the use that is suggested here would
be a much lower intensity use than most of the permitted uses in
a B-5 zone.
(CHAIRMAN WEAVER: Any other questions from the Board? Thank you.
Is there anyone who wishes to speak in favor of this application?
Yes sir,
MR, BANGERTER; Ken Bangerter again. T sat in last - when the
Planning Board recommended or suggested that this was under-utili-
zation. If in fact each one of the cubicles was rented as a mini-
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�jcertainly can't stop under-utilization on the basis of its being a
I warehouse instead of maybe a hi-rise or maybe a shopping center.
' The next thing to do there would be to say that he would be not
1� permitted to have a vacant lot because that would be most certainly
funder-utilized.
�ICHAIRMAN WEAVER: I agree with you Mr. Bangerter, that it is under-11
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,lbe heard we will now go into executive session. Any of you who wa t
to learn the results of our meeting can call the office tomorrow
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�i BOARD OF ZONING APPEALS
COMMON COUNCIL CHAMBERS
CITY OF ITHACA NEW YORK
JUNE 7 , 1982
EXECUTIVE SESSION
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APFEAL N0. 1446 :
lThe Board considered the appeal of Vasilios and Ruth Zikakis for a �
fuse variance to permit the construction of mini-storage buildings
Ifor public rental at 416 Elmira Road. The decision of the Board f
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was as follows:
(i MS. HAINE : T move that the Board grant the use variance re-
quested in appeal number 1446 . i
' MR. WILCOX: I second the motion.
;VOTE : 5 Yes ; 0 No ; 1 Absent Granted
IFINDINOS OF FACT:
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, 1) The appellant has demonstrated hardship in that there is no
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municipal water on the land and it would be very difficult fort
development without water.
I` 2) That the lack of municipal water supply is unique to this
property and does not allow development of the lot for the
approved uses in the B-5 zone .
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i3) The proposal appears to be an economical use for property in a�
officially designated floor plain.
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91 , BARBARA RUANE, DO CERTIFY THAT I took the minutes of the Board
{ of Zoning Appeals , City of Ithaca, New York, in the matters of
' Appeals numbered 1437 , 1438 , 1439, 1440 , 1441 , 1442 , 1444 and
1446 on June 7 , 1982 at Common Council Chambers , City Hall , Ithaca
New York; that I have transcribed same, and the foregoing is a
true copy of the transcript of the minutes of the meeting and the
executive session of the Board of Zoning Appeals , City of Ithaca,
on the above date, and the whole thereof to the best of my ability
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Barbara C. Ruane
Recording Secretary
Sworn to before me this
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day of ,- �-�� , 1982
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Notary Public
JEAN J. HANKINSON
NOTARY PUBLIC, STATE OF NEW YORK
No. 57-1660800 i
QUALIFIED IN TOP.PKINS COUNTY,
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