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,Update report of Fall Creek situation
Asst. -Supt. Hannan reported that openings are capable of absorbing more water
than they did before so that we can't anticipate any worse flooding condition
than we had before and it shouldn't jam up again. With the channels opened
up and, depending on the weather in the next few days, hopefully the jam
will be taken out.z- -4'f,--
Regarding the sewage affluent pipeline project, about 2,000 feet of pipe
.was laid in two days, and it is expected the hookup can be l«ade tomorrow
morning sometime and have it ready for use for the slush after the flood,
Mr. Hannan. said the school was already flooded and anything the cityah ss done
didn't make the school's problem any worse.
Fall Creek Situation
Mr. Hannan said the Fall. Creek situation, as of February 4th, had cost the city
about $25,000. This does not include the pipe which was installed. He said
he feels this is a temporary solution. The pipe will be 100% salvageable and
will be used -in a different fashion. He said that as far as handling the
situation, he feels that the creek is no different than any other stream, large
or small. It has frequently occurred in Fall Creek and will continue to occur.
They have provided an opening, called the Cayuga Street Diversion'at the
moment, as a safety valve. If the weather is a prolonged situation as forecast
at the moment, he thinks the thermal solution will eventually bore itself a
channel down through which will be able to handle the creek when a thaw occurs.
Mayor Conley commented that on two differentadcc Bions the Corps of Engineers,
and on one occasion the DEC engineer, have been here and have commended the
city for the amount of effort put into this and saying that diversion is the
only alternative left in a situation like this. He said he was very careful
before the press to explain that the Corps of Engineers have not recommended
blasting, do not recommend bringing planes in with nitrate bombs to use up the
creek and have very carefully gone over all kinds of solutions and it comes
back to diversion ditches.
Comm. Shaw commented that the lake can handle a significant amount of water.
from the run-off and asked Mr. Hannan to speak on this.
Asst. Supt. Hannan reported that the lake level is not going to be an ally
this year. The DoT are going to have, as quickly as possible, to dump all the
water they can in order to make ready for the snow melt and they are dumping
water as fast as they can. The problem is that the Seneca River does not let
the water go out very fast. They have a number of downstream conditions which
also give them a problem. He said there is a strong indication we will have
problems in the city if we have a snow melt unless it is gradual.
City Engineer Cox commented that the entire Oswego Basin is in a real bind.
DoT is well aware of that, as are other communities. He said the DoT are
doing everything they can, and they are well aware of our problems.
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Superintendent s Report
Supt. Dingman reported on 2H.f the d
oepartment is set up for the particular
emergencies. The staff havexbeen working a lot of overtime and have all of
the facilities of the department concentrated on the problems of the snow
storms in general, the Fail Creek area in particular. In respect to the
management of activities in respect to the drainage in Fall Creek area, he
indicated to Asst. Supt. Hannan that this is his problem and the entire
resources of the department are at his disposal in managing in whatever way
he can the runoff of Fall Creek. He has been assisted by Construction and
Maintenance forces. To a lesser extent the Parks Division has been engaged
'in some of the snow removal activities in spelling Asst. Dougherty's depart-
ment so that he can free up his people for more snow removal work and for
whatever flood protection work is necessary. In addition to that, City
Engineer Cox's Engineering Division has been keeping records of surveillance
and have been giving valuable support in connection with the management of
our operations with respect to the current emergencies in Fall Creek, which
is a continuance of an emergency which started back in January and during that
emergency we had a ruptured water line, and Supt. Dingman asked Asst. Supt.
Hannan to report to the Board on these two items --what is currently being
done about Fall Creek and what the situation has been and is there and -what is
anticipated; also to tell the Board how the water crisis was handled.
Fall Creek Water Situation /6F/
Mr. Ernest Grosser, 102 W. Falls Street, appeared before the Board to commend
Asst. Supt. of Public Works Hannan and the city crews for the job they have
been doing in the Fall Creek area in respect to the water, and also thanked
Mayor Conley for his efforts.
;Report on Fall Creek Flooding
Asst. Supt. Hannan reported that, the Fall Creek level has been brought down
so that the creek is within the channel; they are continuing to_generate
slush'which is_probably a function of the stream -itself washing the slush
out from underneath.- They are accomplishing a lot by keeping the opening
free so that when the melted water does occur, there will be an immediate
'escape for the water instead of a back-up situation which is what happened
in the past. He said if the diversion ditch is not enough, the next spot
:will be the two outlets along Cayuga Street and the railroad ditch. Both
,of these are presently being enlarged and cleaned as much as possible. At
the moment 'the situation is stable. Iz9-/7
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Alderman Bordoni commented that it has been suggested the diversion ditch
should be widened to.30 feet and asked if this is a practical thing to do.
City Engineer Cox reported that Profs. Liggett and Murphy presented, at a
meeting of Mr. Cox, Mayor Conley, representatives of the school district and
residents of Fall Creek, the findings`of an investigation of the capability
of the diversion as set up for North Cayuga .Street. They have been able to
,make some approximation of the amount of flow we could expect the channel to
handle in the event of a rise in water level. The 30 feet is simply a number
,which they used in their calculations as being the average width of the
channel. One of their recommendations was that the channel be wider at its
!opening. Likewise it was one of their recommendations that the fence and
guardrail along Rte. 13 be taken out and it.be widened there; again because -I"
the calculations assumed an average width. They assumed the average width
of the channel was 30 feet so they are suggesting the entire width be that
much.
the possibility of flows to expect next month.- It is difficult to put on
the probability curve where they think they ought to be looking to, but it
gives an idea what kind of flows to expect. Mr. Cox said he believed the
gentlemen indicated it was their impressionthatwith these flows, with the
110 diversions .the city has, that they thought there was a pretty good chance
the stream would handle it'without overtopping the banks if the ice were
floated. If the ice is broken up there is in fact a chance that it is going
to cause more serious problems. Regarding sandbagging Mr. Cox said his
answer would be "no."
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Asst. Supt. Dougherty commented that the crews are continually enlarging
the diversion ditches and keeping them clear.
Mayor Conley reported that staff would meet the following morning and he
asked Supt. 'Dingman to discuss the Liggett and Murphy proposals. There
were a lot of suggestions made which he hoped the staff would have a chance
to go over at that meeting and try to implement whatever they think they
could.
Mr. Cox commented that one thing is to have warmer water and keep that in
the channel to keep the ice broken up, and he thought that is a good idea.
He said he thought the residents will be willing to go along with the prograr
of temporarily closing the diversions if they know why the creek is coming
up again as a result.
Mayor Conley 'reported there will be a meeting with the Fall Creek Civic
Association on Sunday at which time Chief Weaver will speak; he plans to
ask Profs. Liggett and Murphy to attend that meeting..
Asst. Supt. Hannan commented that he hated to see theoretical possibilities
handed out as solutions. He didn't think this is the kind of information
that shoul•d_be given to the—media. He said we -shouldn't be _thinking in
terms of destruction and he hated to have this kind of conversation at the_
Board meeting.
"Another suggestion was that we try to .temporarily plug the diversions we
have now available and leave them closed so when we do encounter some in-
creased flow we let that water work through the slush into the channel. There
is some merit to that idea, but that would depend upon the weather conditions.
Mr. Cox said he hand't had an opportunity to discuss the idea with Mr. Hannan
so couldn't offer much in the way of answers at that point.
Alderman Bordoni asked Mr. Cox to comment on the amount of good it would do
to increase the sandbagging along the banks on both sides 3-6 feet.
Mr.. Cox commented that the gentlemen from Cornell University were good
enough to research the records and provided data on the past maximum flows
for the month of March. From those they were able to calculate the
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Improvement to Fall Creek
By Comm. Cleveland: Seconded by Comm. Schickel
RESOLVED, That the Common Council be requested to establish a capital project
411 of $10,000 to be used by the department to :investigate improvements to Fail
Creek to prevent the recurrence of the extreme high groundwater levels,
Discussion followed on the floor.
A vote on the resolution resulted as follows:
Carried Unanimously
Capital Project - Fall Creek
Comm. Whispell: Seconded by Comm. Ewanicki
RESOLVED, That the Board approve the proposal for a capital project to
develop a Plan of Action which has as its basis the protection of lives and
property on both sides of Fall Creek.
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IT IS FURTHER RESOLVED, That the project as approved be referred to the
Capital Improvements Review Committee for recommendation to the Common
Council for funding at its March 1 meeting.
Carried Unanimously
Plan of Action - Consultant Services
By Comm, Whispell: Seconded by Comm. Schickel
RESOLVED, That subject to the approval of funding by the Common Council,
the Superintendent be authorized to engage a consultant o aid in the
development of the Plan of Action.
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Carrie Un nimously
0 Mayor Conley left the meeting at 5:08 p.m. Vice -Chairman Ewanicki chaired
the balance of the meeting.
Consulting Services - Plan of Action - Fall Creek
Comm. Whispell reported that at its regular meeting on March 1, 1978 the
Common Council, acting at the request of the Board of Public Works,
established a capital project of $10,000 for consulting services in
connection with the preparation of a Plan of Action for the protection
of life and property from the hydrological effects of Fall Creek. Acting
in response to the authorization of this Board on February 22, 1978, the
Superintendent has entered into an agreement with B. K. Hough, Consulting
Engineer of Ithaca, for consulting services in connection with the Plan
of Action for a lump sum of $9,500.
Resolution 3/0/71
By. Comm. Whispell: Seconded by Comm. Schickel
RESOLVED, That the Board approve the action of the Superintendent.
Discussion followed on the floor. Mayor Conley informed the Board he would
soon appoint a Fall Creek Capital Project Information Committee which will
include residents, representation from Fall Creek Civic Association, a
ember of Tompkins County Environmental Council, a member of th' =—_
Fivironmental Commission, Chairman of the Creeks and
tarnmittee of BPW, and representatives of the schoc" and Tow ..
of Ithaca. The purpose of the committee is to . -.:e sure that the city
.touches base with all groups interested in :F capital project.
A vote onthe resolution resulted as :..flows:
Carried Unanimously
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Report on Fall Creek Plan of Action
Comm. Cleveland reported that there is a meeting scheduled for tonight
at 7:30 p.m. in the Common Council Chambers for the purpose of reporting
to Fall Creek residents the results of the consultant's work to date,
and to hear from them their particular concerns and proposals. His
understanding was that Alderman Bordoni had arranged to have members of111
the Fall Creek Civic Assoc. present. / o/7
Mayor Conley commented that Comm. Cleveland/,1,
and himself had made prior
commitments, and he requested Alderman Bordoni to chair the meeting.
Fall Creek Improvements
Alderman. Meyer addressed the Board and read the resolution which had
been passed by the Common Council concerning a plan of action for Fall
Creek improvements. She commented that the recommendations made by
B. K. Hough Consulting. Engineers, in their report following their study
of the situation, failed to give the Common Council or the Fall Creek
residents any options from which to choose, and she believes a more
specific amount of information should be provided, such as cost factors,
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Disaster Declaration Request
City Attorney Shapiro reported that basically the request goes to the
Governor's Office, to the New York Division of Milit,ry and Navc11 Affairs,
which is a division of the Executive Department. A call was made yesterday
lio Arnold Grusky, State Coordinating Officer of the N.Y. Division of Military
.and Naval Affairs. The request has been made to the Governor to declare the
Fall Creek Area of Ithaca a disaster. A telegram was sent today to the
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He said one of the procedural requirements of the state in a disaster situa-
tion such as this is that they request some back-up information. That informa-
tion includes the nature and scope of the disaster, the amount of funds which
have been expended, the damage to property, future dangers, etc. That informa-
tion is currently being compiled by the departments primarily not actively
involved with handling the disaster itself. They will be asked for some input
but an attempt will be made to hold it to a minimum so they can get on with
their business. Once the Governor declares the area a disaster area, it opens
up to all sorts of state and federal funds and assistance. The Governor is
the only one who can request the federal government that it be declared a
disaster area; we cannot request that directly.
The first step, the process of getting the Governor to declare it a disaster
area, is underway; we have declared it locally, a disaster area; we hope to
have the information to the Governor's Office by the end of the week --at least
as well as we can put it together in that short period of time.
Governor.
Mayor Conley commented that the city wants to ask for the assistance now becau
it might allow some state and federal aid to come immediately to the school
district for resources the city can't give them, in addition to the fact that
1111rhe city is not yet out of danger. The weather and the lake level has not
worked in the city's favor as yet. The school district has received enough
damage for them to be considered a disaster.
Fall Creek
Mr. Robert Nobles, 112 E. Falls Street, addressed the Board concerning
the flooding in the Fall Creek area. He said he has written a letter to
the Editor of the Ithaca Journal which should be published soon. He agrees
that the city and department were a great help after the damage was done.
He reminded the Board that two years ago, after pumping water for three
weeks, the Fall Creek residents asked the city for help. He said the
people expect the city to do something before another fall to try to
solve the problem. He said he would like to go on record for dredging the
creek, creating a deeper channel to handle the water.
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Mayor
Mayor Conley commented that he has created a committee foi` ififormation
flow; they will try to identify some funds that can be set aside for work
in the area, and they intend to do everything possible to bring projects
back to the Board so that decisions can be made and work done.
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City Bridges
City Engineer Cox reported that in connection with the recommendations
of Consulting Engineers Modjeski and Masters of Harrisburg, Pa., in their
report developed concerning the condition of city bridges, there is money
in the capital budget to consider the rehabilitation of the South Albany
Street bridge.
Comm. Cleveland reported that funds were provdied in the 1978 budget for
the design and preparation of contract plans for the reconstruction of the
Albany Street bridge. The City Engineer has negotiated with Modjeski &
Masters for. said designs and preparation of plans. `/ % r/
Resolution `� /?/ d
By Comm. Cleveland: Seconded by Comm. Schickel
RESOLVED, That the Superintendent be authorized to enter into an agreement
with Modjeski $ Masters for the design and preparation of contract documents
for the reconstruction of the Albany Street bridge in accordance with -a
—letter Crom Modjeski $ Masters. dated .March 2-9,. 1978._
Carried Unanimously
Modjeski and Masters' preliminary design report - S. Albany St. Bridge
Comm. Cleveland reported that Modjeski and Masters' preliminary design
report for the South Albany street Bridge over Six Mile Creek has been
received and is understudy by the staff. The report recommends an open
grid deck at an estimated cost of $200,000. It offers as an alternate a
reinforced concrete deck at an estimated cost of $186,000. Both proposals
will permit a standard highway loading, thereby removing the need for
ilkload posting. The department will have,a re,ommendation for the June 14
meeting of the Board of Public Works. 5-/iy/7
Modjeski and Masters - Tnvoice for Engineering Services
By Comm. Cleveland: Seconded by Comm. Schickel J / //7�f'
RESOLVED, That an invoice of Modjeski and Masters Tori ngineering services
in connection with the design and contract plans for the South Albany St.
bridge over Six Mile Creek be approved in the amount of $2,226.70.
Carried Unanimously
Mo j eski an Masters. -7 --Albany 'Street 8ri dge
Comm. Cleveland reported that Modjeski and Masters has completed
their preliminary design report on the Albany Street Bridge.
They have two proposals, both of which will permit us to remove
the posting (permit any legal highway loads). One is an open grid
deck at approximately $202,000; the other is a reinforced concrete
deck at approximately $186,000. Modjeski and Masters recommend
the open grid deck principally because it will permit a better
profile and because they assume greater ease of maintenance. The
department recommends the reinforced concrete alternate because
it believes there will be less maintenance. The above prices
assume that the bridge will be constructed in 1979. The city
has funds in its capital reserve for this purpose.
Resolution (0I 6fg
By Comm. Cleveland: Seconded by Comm. Shaw
RESOLVED, That Modjeski and Masters by directed to proceed with
the design of a reinforced concrete deck replacement for the
Albany Street Bridge.
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Discussion followed on the floor.
A vote on the resolution resulted as follows:
Carried Unanimously
Invoice's - Mo es i Masters
By Comm. Clevelan•: Secon•ed by Comm. Schi
RESOLVED, That two invoices from Modjeski $
services to design a new deck for the South
approved in the amounts of $3,161.03 and $1
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Masters for professional
Albany Street bridge be
,389.00.
Carried Unanimously
Requisition #4 - Modjeski and Masters
By Comm. Cleveland: Seconded by Comm. Banfield
RESOLVED, That requisition #4 from Modjeski and
services in connection with the design and cont
the Albany Street Bridge over Six M
.the amount of $6,260.49. Carried Unanimously
,cations for
Masters for engineering
ract drawings and specifi
ile Creek, be approved in
Re uisition .#5 _ Modjeski n.d Masters
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. Cleveland
By CommSecondec! � Comm. Allan /°441 forhe
RESOLVED, that requisition.F#5 from Modjeskand ioaed Masintersamott
design of the Albany Street Bria e, be app
of $3,462.78.
Carried. Unanimously
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Six-mile Creek Bank Slide 4/0J1
Supt. Dingman reported that the south side of the bank of Six -mile Creek,
just above Aurora Street bridge, leading up to the rear of properties on
Hudson Street, had slid into the creek, but had not caused the creek to
overflow as had been anticipated. It did damage properties in the large area
and at least one piece of property in the rear is not safe to walk on. Mr.
Dingman informed the Board that his attitude is that the, city is not
responsible for the support of that land or buildings on it so the department
is not taking any action to shore up the bank or protect the properties from
further slides. He said the city is responsible for maintenance of the creek
as a waterway.
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Bill T. G. Miller
By Comm. Cleveland: Seconded by Comm. Schickel
411 RESOLVED, That the bill from T. G. Miller for surveys in connec-
tion with the Fall Creek studies be approved in the amount of
$4,028.37.
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Carried Unanimously
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Invoice--Parratt-Wolff, Inc. �I���7�
By Comm. Cleveland: Seconded by Comm. Ewanicki
RESOLVED, That an invoice of Parratt-Wolff, Inc. for soil borings in the
Fall Creek area be approved in the amount of $1,800ed0Unanimously
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Preliminary Report on Fall Creek Plan of Action
Comm. Cleveland reported that a preliminary report on the Fall
Creek Plan of Action has been prepared by B. K. Hough. This
report recommends, among other things, that the City proceed(/jv/7r
with the design and installation of a ground water drainage I
system. In order to finalize the recommendation on this system,
it was necessary to proceed with test borings in the area which
will be completed this week. Parrot -Wolfe has been retained to
make these borings on an hourly basis. The borings will be com-
plete this week. It is proposed to hold a meeting with Fall Creek
residents, members of the Board of Public Works, and members
of the Common Council on June 26 at 7:30 p.m., for the purpose of
finalizing a recommendation which will be presented to the Board
of Public Works on Wednesday, June 28. This recommendation will,
among other things, propose that the Board request the Common Council
at its July 5 meeting to establish a capital project for the
installation of the ground water drains at a cost of approxi-
mately $200,000.
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Fall Creek Problem
Comm. Cleveland reported that Consulting Engineer, B. K. Hough has
submitted his Report on the Causes of and Practical ° Solutions for the
Fall Creek Problem under date of June 15, 1978. Copies of this report
have been made available to members of the Board. The report discusses
the many aspects of the problem. The report recommends the construction
of a system of sub -drains as a measure to prevent the basement flooding
which was experienced in the area in January and February of 19.78 and
which has been experienced in lesser degree nearly every year in recent
history. It also recommends that approval be given for an investigation
to determine the most effective way to utilize the Sewage Treatment Plant,
effluent to combat the effect of slush ice. Gim,4
Resolution
By Comm. Cleveland: Seconded by Comm. Schickel
RESOLVED, That the report of B. K. Hough be accepted and placed on file.
IT IS FURTHER RESOLVED, That the Common Council be requested to establish
a capital project of $175,000 for the construction of sub -drains as
loutlined in the Hough report.
Discussion followed on the floor.
Resolution
By Comm. Cleveland: Seconded by Comm. Schickel
RESOLVED, That the matter of acceptance of the B. K. Hough report, and
establishment of a capital project as outlined in the Hough report, be
referred back to the Bridges, Creeks and Storm Drainage Committee for
review and report back to the Board.
Carried Unanimously
Tnvoice--B. K. Hough
By Comm. Cleveland: Seconded by Comm. Schickel ')/017S/
RESOLVED, That an invoice of B. K. Hough for engineering services in
connection with "The Causes of and Practical Solutions for the Fall
Creek Problem" be approvedin the amount of $7,600.00.
Carried-Unanimously
B,. K. Hough Bill.in
By Comm. Cleveland: Seconded by Comm. Allan
RESOLVED, that the bill from B. K. Hough for consulting services
in connection with the Fall. Creek under drain project, be
approved in the amount of $1,900. `12/47E
Discussion followed on the floor.
A vote on the resolution resulted as follows:
Carried Unanimously
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Report of Bridge'sCreeks and Storm Drainage Committee - Comm.
Cleveland
Consulting Engineer, B. K. Hough, has submitted his Report on the
Causes of and Practical Solutions for the Fall Creek. Problem, under
date of June 15, 1978. Copies of this report have been made avail-
able to members of the Board. The report discusses the many
aspects of the problem. The report recommends the construction
of a system of sub -drains as a measure to prevent the basement
flooding which was experienced in the area in January and February
of 1978, and which has been experienced in lesser degree nearly
every year in recent history. It also recommends that approval
be given for an investigation to determine the most effective way
to utilize the Sewage Treatment Plant effluent to combat the
effect of slush ice.‘(;it,e)AIA
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IT IS RECOMMENDED that the report of B. K. Hough be accepted and
placed on file.
IT IS FURTHER RECOMMENDED that the Common Council be requested
to establish a capital project of $175,000 for the construction
of sub -drains as outlined in the Hough report.
Mayor Conley asked that someone from the Fall Creek Civic
Association give the Board a report on the happenings at its
Special Meeting -held on June 29th attended by Mr. Cleveland and
Mr. Bordoni. The Hough Report, among other things. was discussed,
and it was the opinion of those who attended the meeting that a
resolution be adopted and read at this Special Board of Public
Works meeting and at the Common Council meeting. David Banfield
of the Fall Creek Civic Association read the following Resolutions:
The following Resolutions were adopted at a Special Meeting of
the Fall Creek Civil Association held on June 29, 1978:
BE IT RESOLVED: The residents of the Fall Creek area, present
at the Special June 29th meeting of the Fall Creek Civic Associa-
tion, do hereby request the Common Council of the City of Ithaca
to accept the report of B. K. Hough to take immediate action to
implement his recommendation for a porous pipe sub -surface
intercept drainage system, and that said pipe
nbeplaced
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Route 13 and the railroad bed to meet a pump g s
said roadbeds;
BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED: That in addition to the subsurface
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drainage system, the City install a permanent pipeline
heated sewage affluent from the City Sewage Treatment Plant to
Fall Creek;
BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED: That as outlined in B. K. Hough's
report that immediate attention be given to improvement of the
channel and dike walls between Lake Street and Route 13 bridge;
fl BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED: That the City continue to explore the jl
means to finance and implement the dredging of Fall Creek;
BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED: That the City set up a Creek monitoring
system to enable cranes and other suitable machines to be moved
in to relieve water pressure and remove ice jams and slush ice
at proper areas prior to any flooding conditions;
BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED: That all means necessary to explore
solutions to the problems of flooding and seepage in Fall Creek
be a continuing project.
Discussion followed on the floor.
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Alderman Bordoni mentioned that there were questions with refer-
ence to the preliminary layout where the piping system would go.
It should be understood that it is a preliminary layout and the
people have seen the sketch and map which shows the pipe line
going under two garages and one home. They want to be reassured
that something will be done and that they are not terribly incon-
venienced and all legalities will be taken care of. Bordoni said
the people were concerned about giving easements and then not
being able to use the property over which the City has an easement.
Supt. Dingman commented that the City will request an easement
over land where the system is constructed and that construction
should not be commenced by property owner over such easement. Mr.
Dingman said he recognizes the fact that theplan which accompanies
the report was made from tax maps and not from recent surveys and
so actual location of buildings shown on the map may be somewhat
varied from actual locations. Only an actual construction design
survey will establish where the pipes are. Supt. Dingman said
the City will make every attempt to keep possible damage at a
minimum. If property is damaged a home owner should receive some
compensation for the damage. The answer to the question is that
the situation would have to be reviewed as it developes and is
shown by the construction survey.
Alderman Bordoni also questioned the capital project figure of
$175,000.00. It should be understood that that price would not
include the relocation of the pumping station on the west side
of the railroad bridge. Alderman Bordoni feels that some con-
sideration should be given at this point to that figure so that
the Board does not get locked into a situation where 20 to 25%
more money will be needed for the project. The money should be
requested now rather than later.
David Banfield of the Fall Creek Civic Association suggests that
when the bid specifications are drawn up that the bids be received
for the pumping station on the west side of the railroad tracks,
and alternate bid for the pumping station on the east side.
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Comm. Ewanicki recommended that the ends should be kept open on
an actual figure so that some leaway could be given. Mayor
Conley said the Board may have to come back for more money
depending on how the figures come in and what type of arrange-
ments can be made. 7/4?‘
Comm. Schickel suggested that the City get going on the engineer-
ing design and then see what options may come up.
Supt. Dingman reported that there may be very distinct dis-
advantages in placing the pumping station on the other side of
the railroad -tracks. That option could involve extensive future
dollars. Engineering costs would be quite high in designing
an additional line running underneath the highway. The plan
is not a simple matter; in fact, it is a very difficult piece
of construction and will require engineering costs just to find
out how much it will cost to do it. If the project cannot be
designed to the satisfaction of the Board and Common Council
on the residential side of the highway, then it will have to
be investigated further.
' A vote on the resolution resulted as follows:
Carried Unanimously
. Mayor Conley voted aye also
Resolution passed by the Fall Creek Civic Association.
Resolution
By Comm. Ewanicki: Seconded by Comm.. Allan
RESOLVED, that the resolution
oandthe
StormFall
Draining1Committeeiation
be referred to Bridges, Creeks
Carried Unanimously
Fall Creek Under -drains
Supt. Dingman reported that he had hoped to have full provisions of the
contract for the under -drain services ready for approval at today's
meeting but had not been able to handle the data fast enough. An
engineering firm has been selected, and when the terms of the contract
are. agreed upon, the firm will be notified and will begin work.
)!Fall Creek Dredging l(
Aldeiuian Bordoni commented regarding Mr. Hough's Report on the
Fall Creek area, with particular reference to dr'ging and wondered
if anything had been done to better the situation for the Winter
season coming up. Couuu. Cleveland, City Engineer Cox and Asst.
Supt. Hannan reported the progress to date on the Fall Creek
situation.
Fall Creek Dredging Operations
Wayne Steinbaugh, 7 Woodland Place, Ithaca, New York, addressed the
Board on behalf of the Fall Creek Civic Association. Mr. Steinbaugh
said that he would like to ask a couple of questions. One of the
questions deals with the dredging of the Creek from Lake Street to
Route 13 bridge, which dredging was requested by the Association and
was recommended in the Hough Report. The dredging was actually done
from Lake Street almost to Cayuga Street bridge but there has been
nothing done below that to the Route 13 bridge nor to replacing part
of the dike that was washed away in the last flood due to Winter
conditions. 12I13)76
Supt. Dingman stated that his department does not now have any specific
plans to do any more dredging in that area nor any improvement in the
bank. The project has been examined by his department and in its
opinion, at least at the moment, the work that has been done is
satisfactory and meets the needs. However, Supt. Dingman said
that if the Fall Creek Civic Association feels that strongly about
the matter that it had asked Mr. Steinbaugh to appear before the
Board, then he would be less than responsive if he did not take
another look at the project. We do not want to leave the project
without having done everything necessary that can be done so that the
area will not be in danger of losing the bank. Mr. Steinbaugh said
that he would appreciate that very much.
Discussion followed on the floor with a concern brought to th.e Board's
attention by Alderman Bordon -i - -a low -spot in th.e creek bank between Cayuga
Street bridge and Rt. 13 on the south_ side, which he said had not been
prepared as had the bank between Lake and Cayuga Street bridge. Alderman
Bordoni said that the bank looks pretty bad, with_ a number of undercuts]
and the bank: has not been built up with. the same material -used between
Cayuga and Lake Street bridge.. He asked if any -more work, such as bull-
dozing, -was -planned for that area of the creek bank. Supt. Dingman
commented that several members- of his staff examined the area. . The height
of the bank there is compatible with. the situation we had last year and
we were not suffering from any particular danger in that area last year.
Some additional trimming may be done, but there is no. intention of raising
the grade of the bank in that area. City Engineer Cox commented the grade
of the bank was raised considerably this year. 1'#7/7b'
Channel between Cayuga Street and Rt. 13 'Bridge /d-/ -? 7g
Comm. Banfield asked to go on record as being in favor o using a bulldozer
to improve the channel between Cayuga Street and Rt. 13 bridge.
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Contract Erdman, Anthony Associates
By Comm. Allan: Seconded by Comm. Schickel
RESOLVED, That the contract from Erdman, Anthony Associates for profes-
sional services for the design of the Fall Creek ground water drainage
system be approved and that the Superintendent be authorized to sign the
contract. 1k0
Carried Unanimously
City Engineer Cox commented that tentatively the bids would be authorized
no later than the 30th of August, with the process taking 3-4 weeks;
construction could possible start early in October with completion three
months later.
Fall Creek Subdrainage System
At Supt. Dingman's request, City Engineer Cox introduced Richard Ulp and
Daniel Cornwall of Erdman Anthony Associates Harrisburg office, who pre-
sented preliminary plans for implementation of the Fall Creek Drainage
project. Mr. Cox commented that he had reviewed the plans very briefly;
the remainder of staff, particularly water and sewer, had not had that
opportunity. • 9J13/7%
Discussion followed on the floor, with Messrs. Cox, Ulp and Cornwall
answering questions of the Board.
Award of Bid for Fall Creek
By Comm. Cleveland: Seconded by Comm. Banfield
RESOLVED, That the department be authorized to receive bids for the.
construction of the Fall Creek sub -surface drainage project in accordance
with plans and specifications prepared by Erdman, Anthony Associates and
as presented at this meeting. 61113N
Carried Unanimously
Report on Fall Creek projects
City Engineer Cox reported that there will be a pre-bid conference with
bidders on Friday, September 29, 1978 and that bid openings will be
held on Friday, October 6, 1978. He reported that he will meet with
architects for the Y.M.C.A. on September 28, 1978 to discuss that property
for which easements have not yet been secured.
He reported the effluent lines have been studied in some detail, and it
seems feasible to convey most of the sewage treatment plant effluent to
Fall Creek. He said if the city is going to undertake such a project, it
ought to plan on spending about $67,000. A permit is required from the
N.Y.S.-Department of Conservation; application was made on May 4 but that
has not come through as yet and he hoped the city would have it before
putting the line in. There is a legal advertising involved to see if there
is any public opposition. He said it will take early action by the Board
of Public Works and the Common Council to establish the project, put up the
money and get things underway. City Controller Daley commented that no
provisions have been made for money for this part of the project. He said
he had talked to Supt. Dingman about it and they agreed that they might
have to come back for new bonding, if necessary.
1111 Discussion followed on the floor.
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Resolution
By Comm. Cleveland: Seconded by Comm. Banfield
RESOLVED, That this Board adopts a resolution requesting the Common Council
to provide additional funds in the Fall Creek Drainage Project in the
'amount of $70,.000 for the purpose of installing a line from the Sewage
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Treatment Plant to Fall Creek to convey the sewage treatment effluent there,
Discussion followed on the floor.
A vote on the resolution resulted as follows:
Carried Unanimously
Work has begun on the Fall Creek waderdi m r�raa�� T )e. Depart-
ment also has a bulldozer_ in Fall Creek tet.w en C yoga Street and
z Lake (nuend has improved the creek. There are still tree
snagging and brush in that area to be removed. / amp r
Fall Creek Subdrainage System
Comm. Banfield asked for a progress- report on the Fall Creek Subdrainage
system. 11101
City Engineer Cox reported that construction work by Finger Lakes
Construction is progressing --the contractor is essentially through. laying
pipe on one line and is very well along with the laying of pipe of the A
lines. The time-consuming part of the project will be the delivery of the
pump station and pump equipment which is on order now. At present there is
no reason to believe that it will not be done by the January 13 deadline.
Fall Creek Project
• Comm. Banfield requested a report on the Fall Creek project. Supt..
Dingman reported briefly on the work. to -date. 111a�I��
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Requisition #1--Finger La es Gons ruction Company
By Comm. Banfield: Seconded by Comm. Schickel
RESOLVED, that requisition #1 from Finger Lakes Construction
Company for construction services in connection with the Fall Creek
sub-drain, be approved in the amount of $78,284.07. ��I��
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Discussion followed on the floor.
A vote on the Resolution resulted as follows:Carried Unanimously
Approval -of Erdinan, Anthony bill
By Comm. Ewanicki: Seconded by
RESOLVED, That a bill of Erdman,
connection with the Fall Creek s
$27,840.26.
Consulting Services
Comm. Schickel
Anthony for professional services in
ubdrain, be approved in the amount of
Discussion followed on the floor.
A vote on the resolution resulted
as follows;
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Carried Unanimously
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Diversion of Sewage Treatment Effluent into Fall Creek
By Comm. Cleveland: Seconded by Comm.. Schickel
RESOLVED, That the Engineering Division pursue the matter of the permanent
installation of a pipe line for the purpose of divertingthe sewage
treatment effluent into Fall Creek for the purpose of combating slush ice,
and to report the same to this Board for a future funding request to the
Common Council. OF/71
/ Carried Unanimously
Fall Creek Effluent Line Capital Project
Comm. Shaw reported that at its regular meeting on October 4 the Common
Council. appropriated $70,000 of surplus from the sewer fund to a capital
project to be known as the "Fall Creek Effluent Line." The Engineering
Division is working on plans and specifications for this line. It is
expected that the construction of the line will be oy force account. Plans
and specifications will be presented to the Board for approval before
construction starts. /0475/
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The Water and Sewer Division has placed order for the pipe for the effluent
line. Bids will be taken on fittings very soon. Permit requirements have
not been entirely completed. (IP
Fall Creek Sewage Effluent Line /112M
Supt. Dingman reported that the permit situation seems- to be clearing
up, and the department expects to start some construction on that line
within the matter of a number of weeks.,
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"August 15, 1978
Alderman Nancy Meyer
214 Cascadilla Park
Dear Alderman Meyer:
For the past few years the City of Ithaca has been using an area of Six
Mile Gorge near the Ithacare Center, and behind my property at 911 East
State Street as a dump for waste building materials, broken concrete from
streets and sidewalks, and other related debris. The area at the foot of
the Gorge where this material has been dumped has been turned into a
quagmire. I am afraid that this is having a detrimental effect on the
Gorge's wild life environment. q317Y
I would appreciate your investigating this sitaution and finding out
from the Mayor and/or the Department of Public Works how much dumping is
intended for this site.
Hopefully, something will be done to halt this before permanent damage is
done. I would appreciate your attention to this matter.
Sincerely,
C. J. Anagnost
911 East State Street
Ithaca, New York 14850
cc: Alderman Ethel Nichols
• 109 Llenroc Court"
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Discussion followed on the floor.
Mayor Conley commented that he would give the letters to Clerk Rundle
to give copies to Supt. of Public Works Din;man, and expressed the hope
that appropriate answers be given to both'Mr. Ki een and Mr. Anagnost.
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Cascadilla Creek
Comm. Cleveland expressed concern over the condition of Cascadilla Creek
and asked Supt. Dingman if there were anything in the plans for work in
Cascadilla Creek in the current year. Supt. Dingman said there are no
present plans for remedial work. Comm. Cleveland commented that he
understood that by a previous resolution that the creek was to be cleaned
on a yearly basis. Discussion followed on the floor. glUM
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Report on West Clinton Street
Asst. Jack Dougherty reported that basically the reason for West Clinton
Street being closed was the rebuilding of indams and putting a thin con-
crete overlay on the bridge itself. The work has been completed and the
approaches to the bridge will he paved in the next two days. However,
the street will remain closed another week to give the concrete a chance
to cure. 10110
The West Clinton Street bridge over the flood relief channel has
been rebuilt. One approach to the bridge has been graded and is
now :in first class condition. id/a6771
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Comm. Cleveland reported that he a received information via telephone
that the State will be taking soundings on Cayuga Inlet and area the
following day.
411 Resolution ///EY/7V
By Comm. Banfield: Seconded by Comm. Ewanicki
RESOLVED, That Supt. Dingman be directed to write to the N.Y.S. Department
of Transportation expressing concern and informing them that if they do
dredge out the south end of the lake that they pursue the matter in Fall
Creek and Cascadilla Creek in the matter of flood control and small craft.
Carried Unanimously
Update on Fall Creek situation (1/25/78) 1
Improvement to Fall Creek - Capital project requested 2
Request tp declare Fall Creek a disaster area 3
Request for capital project (Fall Creek) See Finance pg. 7
Remarks from Fall Creek resident on flooding situation 4
Modjeski & Masters - S. Albany St. Bridge rehabilitation 5
Bank Slide - Six Mile Creek - Hudson St. Properties 6
Lawsuit re Suicide prevention barricades (See City Attorney - page 1)
T. G. Miller - payment for surveys - Fall Creek studies 7
K. Hough - Payment for services 8
B. K. Hough - preliminary report - Fall Creek Plan of Action.- Report accepted 8
Installation of pipe line for diversion of Sewage Treatment effluent into Fall Creek 9
Fall Creek Special Meeting-BPW-B.K.Hough report-sub-drainage, etc., Dredging 8a
Parratt-Wolff, Inc. - Payment for soil borings - y'yci- GREEk 7a
Erdman, Anthony Assoc. - Fall Creek - Ground water drainage system 8b
Mr. C.J. Anagnost - Letter - Dumping waste materials Six Mile Gorge 10
Report on Fall Creek Drainage Project and request for additional funds 8b
Establishment of Capital Project "Fall Creek Effluent Line" 9
Cascadilla Creek - Concern for condition and need for remedial work 11
West Clinton St. Bridge rebuilding of indams and paving 12
Flood Control & Small Craft - Concern expressed re "dredging" by NYSDOT 13
Fall Creek sub-drain - request for payment - Finger Lakes Construction Co. 8c
" " " - Erdman, Anthony Associates 8d