HomeMy WebLinkAboutMN-DAC-2017-12-06Disability Advisory Council Meeting Minutes
December 6, 2017
Present:
Chair Roberts
Vice Chair Scriber
DAC Members:
Andrew Rappaport
Erin Sember-Chase
David McElrath
Lisa Monroe
Others Present:
Information Management Specialist – Myers
CC Liaison Brock
Special Guest Appearance: Mayor Svante L. Myrick (towards end of meeting)
Approval of Minutes:
Approval of the November 1, 2017 Disability Advisory Council Meeting Minutes –
Resolution
By DAC Member Sember-Chase: Seconded By Vice Chair Scriber:
RESOLVED, That the minutes of the November 1, 2017 Disability Advisory Council Meeting be
approved as published.
Carried Unanimously
Additions to the Agenda:
Chair Roberts requested that the suggestion to discuss items that “need to be done” to share
with the new commissions from DAC Member Rappaport be added to the agenda.
DAC Rappaport’s List included the following:
Accessible map
Accessible website
Accessible on street parking designation
Dealing with disabilities training for police. I haven’t heard complaints, but I know that
Chief Barber agreed to come back to report on what the IPD was doing and I believe
that was a few years ago. There is now a new police chief.
Playgrounds? Is the Commons playground done? I know that I’ve discussed Stewart
Park with Rick Manning recently.
No Council Member Objected
Vice Chair Scriber reported on what occurred at the November City Administration Committee
meeting. The reason it was important for someone from the DAC to attend that meeting was to
share their recommendations with the committee when it was reviewing, discussing and
approving the new “Rules and Procedures” for the four new commissions. She was able to
speak directly to committee members regarding the specific recommendations from the DAC
specifically related to having a specific member on each of the four commissions with either a
lived disability or experience with disabilities. She also spoke with the committee about the
training on ADA law that each of those four members should have, language regarding
disabilities be included in all language proposed regarding protected groups, and that the City
create an ADA Coordinator position.
Chair Roberts reported that he met with Chief of Staff, Dan Cogan regarding the
recommendations of the DAC, including the need for the City to hire an ADA Coordinator. Chief
of Staff Cogan pointed out to him that the DAC is one committee and there are many other
positions that have also been requested from various city department other than an ADA
Coordinator. For example, the Department of Public Works put in an over budget request to
hire an additional crew that could complete work that the City pays contractors to perform.
There are all kinds of similar requests that come from different departments all over the city to
add positions to their rosters. Part of what Common Council will need to be convinced of is why
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they should support the position of an ADA Coordinator over the other, equally important
position since costs for personnel are the most expensive part of the City’s budget.
Vice Chair Scriber stated that when she spoke at the City Administration Committee meeting
about the DAC feeling that there should be an ADA Coordinator, there was nodding and
agreement from numerous committee members agreeing with the DAC that an ADA
Coordinator position is needed in the City of Ithaca.
Chair Roberts further stated that another part of his discussion with the Chief of Staff Cogan
was how to fund an additional position for the City. It occurred to both of them, that there are a
couple of positions in the City that started as funded positions between municipalities. So,
perhaps there are ways that other municipalities could be involved to fund such a position to
that would make it attractive to Common Council to include in the budget the finds with which to
hire an ADA Coordinator. The Sustainability Coordinator position that was added to the City’s
roster started as a joint position between the Town of Ithaca and Tompkins County, then the
City and Tompkins County and the Town of Ithaca and now it is funded between the City of
Ithaca and the Town of Ithaca. In any case, it was a collaborative effort and now that position is
located in the City and paid jointly by the City and Town of Ithaca. In addition, in the past local
foundations have donated money to the City to fund certain projects. So, there are other
funding sources to help support an ADA Coordinator position. If members of the DAC are
willing to carry this request forward they will need to think about various creative ways to fund it
and then share that information with Common Council to determine whether such a
collaboration is possible, including finding organizations that might donate to the City to fund the
position. He feels these are exciting and interesting ideas to move this recommendation
forward.
Vice Chair Scriber stated that she would like to discuss today whether there are other DAC
members, other than Chair Roberts, who may apply to serve on one of the four new
commissions. She has been thinking of applying to be on the commission that will cover parks
and recreation due to her work with Rick Manning on the new Stewart Park playground;
however, she is not a city resident.
DAC members expressed their full support to Vice Chair Scriber to pursue applying to be on the
new commission due to her expertise and experience.
Vice Chair Scriber wondered if DAC members might know people to encourage them to
consider applying for the other two commissions; she feels that with good training it will be a
good opportunity since the commissions are just starting. If they do, it would be good to
recommend that they apply.
DAC Member Rappaport agreed that it is vital that there be someone with expertise in
disabilities and accessibility issues on every commission.
DAC Member Sember-Chase asked whether Common Council members can choose which
commission they would like to be assigned to. CC Liaison Brock responded that Common
Council members are offered an opportunity to provide their preference to the Mayor as to
which commission they would like to be assigned to. DAC Member-Sember Chase stated that
the DAC would recommend CC Liaison Brock for the Mobility, Transportation and Accessibility
Commission in an effort to carry forward concerns of the DAC.
Chair Roberts stated that it would be helpful if CC Liaison Brock reminded Common Council
members at their meeting tonight that there is an expectation there be someone on each
commission with either a lived disability or expertise in disability. He would not want the spots
for those members to given to anyone without those qualities.
Chair Roberts further encouraged other DAC members to reach out to their individual networks
to stress the fact that there is a need for people with either a lived disability or experience in
working with people with disabilities on the new commissions.
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CC Liaison Brock noted that Common Council supported the DAC’s recommendation to recruit
individuals as noted above, so it is incumbent upon the community to put forward as many
candidates as possible for appointment to the new commissions. The members of the DAC
should do their best to get someone on each commission that they know, he feels that will be
very important - including people over the age of 65 group and those who have challenges
visually or physically. If the DAC doesn't get people to apply, no one will, and DAC members
that do apply should apply to different commissions.
DAC members agreed to reach out to their contacts to encourage them to apply.
The members of the DAC agreed to defer the discussion of what the job description of an ADA
Coordinator might look like due to lack of time. They felt it was more important to work on
finalizing the list of items that they want to make sure are carried forward for the new
commissions to be aware of and work on.
The following items were added to the list of items that DAC Member Rappaport shared, as
noted above.
Work Items for the New Commissions:
Ongoing: Communication with and between the City’s Sidewalk Program Manager and
Transportation Engineer regarding condition of sidewalks/driveways/curb cuts
To Do: Placement of additional on-street accessible parking spots downtown
To Do: ADA self-assessment of community; re-do ADA self-assessment for the City
Continue with periodic surveys to the public regarding accessibility
As “Uber” becomes available, the City should not lose track of the fact that City and County still
do not have an accessible taxi. The one they had several years ago was purchased by the
county who had a partnership with Ithaca dispatch to provide drivers to transport individuals;
however, there were not providing very good service. The taxi broke down and was repaired;
now Ithaca Dispatch does not provide service with the accessible taxi in Ithaca because there is
no sustainable market for it - there is in Elmira. This is a problem that is not unique to Ithaca or
Tompkins County; accessible taxis are needed. Gadabout is launching a project to look at
whether or not they could do automatic response service, and so they are looking at doing a
pilot project. The new commission should be involved in that pilot project in order to insure the
provision of accessible taxis in the City of Ithaca.
Ongoing efforts to remove snow and ice from sidewalks or from being put in any path that
wheelchairs use for storage. There should be a paid person who works for the City of Ithaca
that can remove snow and ice from curb ramps and other neglected areas that become
inaccessible due to snow. This why the ADA Coordinator position is important.
DAC Member Sember-Chase pointed out that the DAC has been serving the City in a primary
role in order to insure that City projects are completed in an ADA compliant method or that they
be corrected to comply with ADA laws. That primary role placed them in a more pro-active
position to see that the City complied with ADA law rather than in a “reactive” role which will
happen if the role of ADA Coordinator is added to current job responsibilities of employees.
CC Liaison Brock stated that those people who don’t have ability to apply to be on commission
should consider about applying to be an “advisor” on an as needed basis. They would be the
“experts” to the commissions without the continual time commitment. It would be great for the
City to have a list of advisors already in place to use quickly and easily.
DAC Member McElrath stated that he was thinking about applying to be an advisor.
Chair Roberts responded that he would be the perfect person to reach out to on behalf of
people in public housing for additional information. He further stated that the new commission
should make sure the City is aware of and working on aging in place plans for the future, as well
as emergency response preparedness for all individuals in the community.
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Mayor Myrick stopped in to the meeting because he wanted to take the opportunity so that he
could thank everyone for their work through the years on the DAC and to encourage them to
apply to be on one of the new commissions. He stated that the City will begin advertising the
availability of the new online application and the need for volunteers and advisors for the new
commission within the next few days. He noted that he has only been at this for 10 years and
during those years read a lot of about the City of Ithaca. He stated that no one has done more
for the city than DAC Chair Larry Roberts; he has been a steadfast advocate and champion for
the people of the city. He wanted to make sure the record reflected that he wanted Chair
Roberts and all the DAC members to know his sincere thanks and appreciation to them for their
service to the City in this important role. He further stated that he would like this committee to
continue as one of the “ad-hoc” sub-committees of the new commissions because of all the very
valuable members’ experience and past service to this community that will still be needed going
into the future.
Chair Roberts explained to the Mayor that the DAC has been discussing today the need for
members to reach out to people to encourage them to apply and, for some, be the “expert”
members with a lived disability on each of the four commissions.
CC Liaison Brock further explained that Chair Roberts is hoping that there will be an established
and reserved spot on each commission for this “expert”. She is not sure what kind of assurance
has been insured that this spot will not be filled with just anyone.
Mayor Myrick responded that for this first year that shouldn't be a problem; however, he is not
sure that in the future there will be that same level commitment – it is a goal though.
Vice Chair Scriber voiced her opinion that the Mayor should also extend his thanks and
recognition to DAC Member McElrath because he has been the longest serving DAC member.
Chair Roberts stated that as far as the position of an ADA Coordinator for the City of Ithaca that
the DAC is committed to make that happen since it feels that it is a tremendously important
position to both the City and the community.
Mayor Myrick asked where the City might start to research the position of ADA Coordinator as
far salary, role, etc.
DAC Member Rappaport responded that he reviewed the salary and job description for a ADA
Coordinator for Seattle Washington. The ADA Coordinator there is an executive level, able to
make on the spot decisions, and have the ability and authority to poke their head in meetings or
offices everywhere to insure accessibility is considered since it affects so many departments,
projects, and individuals. He would say that an ADA Coordinator should be a person whose
primary job is ADA Coordinator. The position has a to be at the administrative level and have
that level of authority to instruct others on what needs to be done to insure accessibility needs
and requirements are met for each and every project, job, etc. The ADA Coordinator is centrally
involved in whatever group may be convened to discuss and review various topics to insure that
consideration is always given to accessibility needs. The ADA Coordinator needs to be
someone who is able to be proactive in all areas of government so that development can occur
in a way that complies with ADA law and requirements; right now, for the City of Ithaca, it’s only
being reactive to problems or complaints. The ADA Coordinator should also be able to educate
staff and be someone that people see as a resource or “go to person” for information. They
could also be able to respond to complaints; however, that position should not be set up with
that as its only role. The ADA Coordinator would also be the person who would be working with
and discussing ADA requirements with other agencies such as the Downtown Ithaca Alliance,
the Planning and Development Board and the four new commissions.
Chair Roberts stated that the ADA Coordinator should be included in developing goals, plans,
and continual assessment of the City’s compliance with ADA law, conduct the ADA self-
assessment for the City of Ithaca, and then to follow-up with appropriate staff to make sure that
anything that needs to be done as a result of the self-assessment is completed. They would be
the person who is driving the disability discussion because they have the time and resources to
do so. He believes in the effectiveness of volunteers; however, there is nothing compared to
the paid person who does this on a daily basis.
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Vice Chair Scriber recommended that staff have a check list for certain ADA related items that
always have to be done before a project can begin. To take a pro-active approach to meeting
accessibility needs rather than a reactive approach. Cost should not be an acceptable excuse
for not doing something in order to comply with ADA requirements.
DAC Member Sember-Chase explained that an ADA Coordinator would also assist in providing
recommendations as the City’s budget is developed so that there are established budget lines
that would pay for ADA compliance requirements in the next year. The ADA Coordinator would
also provide guidance and consultation to both staff and developers to educate and assist in
meeting ADA requirements. The ADA Coordinator would ensure that equipment used for public
meetings is maintained in good working order, train staff on the use of the equipment so that
more than one person is familiar and can operate the system for each and every public meeting.
Chair Roberts stated that an ADA Coordinator knows what accommodations are in place and
works to insure that additional accommodations are made on an ongoing basis. They would
also follow-up with appropriate staff to insure that requests for continual accommodation are
maintained.
DAC Member Sember-Chase stated that right now, in the City of Ithaca, there is a lot of passing
the buck on items amongst staff and departments. If there is a designated ADA Coordinator
then everyone knows who to contact. The ADA Coordinator has the responsibility to facilitate
that or at least be a key player in addressing any accommodations the need to be made and
who the staff are to contact when needed. In addition, the role of the ADA Coordinator will be to
work with staff in all departments to build relationships in order to insure awareness of ADA law,
and be a resource to provide general education.
Chair Roberts would like to insure that the City shares a positive public message about its
understanding of ADA Law and is more committed than ever before to insure that people with
disabilities are able to be a part of this community where they live, work, or want to come into
the city and have accessible restaurants and be able to go anywhere and not be limited by lack
of accessible accommodations.
DAC Member Rappaport agreed and noted that this goal comes back to the real need to have
an accurate and up-to-date accessibility map for the City of Ithaca that shows every location and
whether it is accessible or not for the public to utilize.
Chair Roberts confirmed that item is on the list for the new commission to work on. He would
suggest that they reach out to the Downtown Ithaca Alliance and the Chamber of Commerce for
assistance with that project as well.
DAC Member Rappaport, as a side note, shared that a prime example of the value of having
such a map would help someone to know that at the Ithaca Ale House there is outside seating
that is accessible; however, it is not accessible inside the restaurant.
DAC Member Sember-Chase shared that in the past when she called Ithaca Ale House in order
to make arrangements ahead of time for a person in a wheelchair they refused to – which
resulted in lost customers. She stated that the goal for the future for the City of Ithaca should be
that no one should ever have to think about whether or not where they are going is accessible.
The ADA Coordinator could create a vision of that goal and work to get there for everyone and
keep that message going so it doesn’t just happen when a group is very vocal about a need.
Sustaining the conversation regarding ADA and accommodations will be a significant role of the
ADA Coordinator.
CC Liaison Brock also noted that in light of the recent hurricanes that have left many without
electricity for lengthy periods of time, it just highlights the need for the City of Ithaca to plan for a
similar situation and how emergency shelters can accommodate for that need as well as
mobilize large groups of people with disabilities in such a situation. That really needs to be
addressed, and the City needs to have services and programs set up for emergency long-term
situations.
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DAC Member Sember-Chase stated that this is an age old conversation, and it’s been going on
in our community since hurricane Katrina in 2005. Yet, little seems to be done despite efforts of
various groups to have the City and County make that more of a priority. Private businesses
may have programs and plans in place for such situations, but how would they connect to the
City during an incident? That isn’t clear right now and needs to be one of the high priority items
for discussion by the new commission.
Chair Roberts stated that he would like City and Town of Ithaca to meet to talk about an ADA
Coordinator. Tompkins County’s answer to the need was that different people in different
departments have been assigned the duties of an ADA Coordinator. Would it make sense for
Tompkins County, the City, and perhaps a foundation to discuss the need for an ADA
Coordinator position? He will volunteer to pursue that idea since the Mayor, Alderperson
Mohlenhoff and others are supportive of having an ADA Coordinator for the City of Ithaca.
If the City of Ithaca ended up sharing such a position with Tompkins County it should be full-
time so that the City and County each get twenty hours per week. It may make sense to have
such a shared position due to the overlap of projects between municipalities.
Vice Chair Scriber noted that any funding for the position of an ADA Coordinator needs to be
funded through the City of Ithaca budget because a foundation will not continue to fund in
perpetuity.
Chair Roberts stated that the DAC, as a body, needs to get a draft proposal together for the City
of Ithaca about what they see as the role of an ADA Coordinator.
DAC Member Sember-Chase wondered whether or not the Workforce Diversity Advisory
Committee would be a good group to provide support to the DAC to push this request forward
through the City, since the DAC will no longer be meeting as a group.
Chair Roberts responded that he could request that CC Liaison Brock report on behalf of the
DAC to the W orkforce Diversity Advisory Committee (since she is the CC Liaison for that
committee as well) about its efforts to encourage the City to create a full-time position for an
ADA Coordinator. She could request, on behalf of the DAC, that they be the committee to push
for the creation of the ADA Coordinator position. He would be happy to attend a future meeting
of the Workforce Diversity Advisory Committee to provide further information to committee
members or answer any questions they might have.
CC Liaison Brock stated that it has been her honor to be the Common Council liaison to the
DAC. The DAC has incredible passion and commitment to its task to provide recommendations
to the City on ways to improve accessibility. The members of the DAC are professional and
dedicated members; it has been a big learning experience for her and she has great respect for
each and every member.
Chair Roberts stated that he has been part of the DAC for so many years, and is a little sad that
it is being disbanded. He will continue to be involved in the City of Ithaca and he will not allow
disability related issues to get dropped and will remain active as long as it takes.
Adjournment:
On a motion the Disability Advisory Council adjourned its final meeting at 1:35 p.m.
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Sarah L. Myers, Larry Roberts,
Information Management Specialist DAC Chair