HomeMy WebLinkAboutMN-DAC-2017-08-02Disability Advisory Council Meeting Minutes
August 2, 2017
Present:
Chair Roberts
Vice Chair Scriber
DAC Members:
Andrew Rappaport
Erin Sember-Chase (joined by telephone)
Others Present:
Information Management Specialist – Myers
CC Liaison Brock
Sidewalk Program Manager - Licitra
Excused:
DAC Members Anderson, Monroe, McElrath
Approval of Minutes:
Approved of the July 12, 2017, Disability Advisory Council Meeting Minutes was
deferred until the September meeting due to lack of quorum.
Update:
City Sidewalk Program:
Sidewalk Program Manager Licitra reported that the sidewalk contractor hired by the
City of Ithaca began work on the 2017 Sidewalk Work Plan. They will begin in
Collegetown (to complete prior to students returning), and then head to Aurora Street
and then to the other sidewalks on the list. The 2018 Sidewalk Work Plan, Budget and
Assessment will be on the agenda for review and approval by the Board of Public
Works this month. It will then proceed to Common Council in September for a final
vote.
DAC Member Rappaport reported that he could not access the pedestrian walkway on
the Stewart Avenue Bridge this past Monday because it was closed for repainting.
There were no signs alerting pedestrians that the bridge was closed. There was no
safe alternate way to access the walkway and be compliant with ADA requirements.
Sidewalk Program Manager Licitra responded that he would call the contractor today to
remind them of that requirement. He will follow up to ensure that safe and ADA
compliant access to the walkway is created and maintained for the duration of the
project. He noted that the bridge would re-open temporarily for student move-in and for
the inauguration of the new president of Cornell University.
Discussion Item:
New Board/Committee Structure - Decide/discuss how to design the structure of
the September DAC meeting at which members of the Working Group to
restructure boards and committees will attend to discuss transition plans into the
new commission structure:
Chair Roberts stated that invitations to all the members of the “Working Group” to attend
the September 6, 2017, DAC meeting will be sent out within the next couple of days.
He is hoping that most members will be able to attend to discuss the proposal with
them.
Chair Roberts asked DAC members how they would like to structure the September
meeting, does it make sense to have a couple general topics to keep the discussion on
point, and should he plan to lead the discussion, or are there other suggestions.
DAC members supported Chair Roberts leading the discussion. They also felt that it
would be very important to circulate to the members of the working group the specific
ideas/topics/concerns prior to the September meeting so they time to review them, and
hopefully come prepared with answers or to discuss them in more detail. It might also
be good to share the information with all of Common Council members.
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DAC Member Rappaport suggested that once the list has been created, that it would be
helpful to then place each one into the appropriate new commission’s responsibilities.
Chair Roberts noted that one of the primary concerns for the DAC is to insure that these
items be included in not only the responsibilities of the new commissions but written into
each commissions’ mission statement. He agrees with DAC Member Rappaport’s past
comments that it is vital that each of the four new commissions consider accessibility
part of their charge and include it in each discussion at every meeting. Accessibility
issues should not be limited only to the purview of the “Mobility, Accessibility and
Transportation Commission”. Accessibility needs must be part of each and every
discussion of each commission since it impacts HR items, emergency management
information, community needs, etc. In addition, the DAC would strongly
encourage/recommend that the City conduct another self-assessment to ensure all its
programs are meeting ADA requirements. The DAC would also like to see a designated
ADA Coordinator for the City of Ithaca, and where that person might fit into the make-up
of personnel for the City of Ithaca. The DAC wants to make sure that the concerns
raised not only today, but in past discussions be incorporated into each of the four new
commissions responsibilities and memorialized in some manner so that when the new
structure is in place the issues and recommendations of the DAC are included for each
commission.
CC Liaison Brock shared, that in her experience, writing recommendations into the
charge for each commission is useful, but what might be equally important is to request
that each commission have at least one member that has some tangible experience in
working with people with disabilities. People often forget to consider diversity in
decision making. One way to ensure it doesn’t is to have a member with expertise in
that area either by experience or expressed interest. She supports the recommendation
of the DAC to recommend to the City that it hire and/or designated a qualified ADA
Coordinator. In that recommendation, the DAC should say what the coordinator’s
responsibilities should include and where they should be placed in the city’s workforce.
In addition, once the DAC is disbanded, she wonders if DAC related items and
discussions should be added to the purview of the city’s Workforce Diversity Advisory
Committee. She stated that the DAC should identify, either in the new commission
structure or in one of the boards that remain unchanged, the responsibilities of the DAC.
That way they are vested someplace that’s not new to prevent those issues being lost in
the shuffle as the new commissions are established.
Chair Roberts stated that the City of Ithaca actually should have specific point people to
whom ADA or accessibility problems can be directed to. He believes one of those
people right now, is City Clerk, Julie Conley Holcomb.
DAC Member Rappaport stated that according to the ADA.gov website, they
recommend a designated individual to coordinate ADA compliance. Perhaps the DAC
should raise that as an issue to recommend that the City of Ithaca address.
CC Liaison Brock voiced her opinion that the City Clerk or Clerk’s office might not
necessarily be the best office designated as the ADA point of contact for the City.
Chair Roberts, with agreement from DAC members, outlined the following topics that
they want to recommend to the City be considered as the structure of the new
commission is established:
Build accessibility needs into the mission statement of each commission
Each commission should have at least one m ember that either has personal or
professional expertise with accessibility needs, and then identify that person as an
advocate for people with disabilities or accessibility needs. That way each commission
has a point person for those issues to be brought to.
Appoint a certified and qualified ADA Coordinator for the City of Ithaca, and determine
what that position would look like and what office the position would work out of. It was
noted that Transportation Engineer Hathaway and Sidewalk Program Manager Licitra
have been very good in meeting with the DAC and working to ensure accessibility is
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maintained and ADA requirements are met related to sidewalks and curb ramps.
However, that is only a small component (sidewalks, curb ramps, etc.) of all the
accessibility needs that should be considered by all departments in the City of Ithaca.
An ADA Coordinator should have a broader responsibility (i.e. - emergency
broadcasting information, who would have that expertise - or would all of the
commissions even identify that as a need?)
Vice Chair Scriber stated that she would like to encourage the City to think ahead about
accessibility needs. She agreed that the City has made advances in considering
accessibility and ADA requirements with sidewalks, etc.; however, it seems like in order
for accessibility needs to be addressed it’s after the fact (i.e. the playground on the
Commons, the new parking pay stations, lifts in pools). How can that be changed?
DAC Member Rappaport agreed; that was why he brought up the pedestrian walkway
closure on the Stewart Avenue Bridge. The DAC has been meeting consistently with
engineering staff about the need to maintain pedestrian access with each construction
projects, but, again, the problem is being addressed after the fact. Considering
accessibility needs and ADA law is not in the forefront of discussions by staff for
projects that the City is involved with.
DAC Members provided the following areas where accessibility and ADA requirements
need to be considered regularly:
Accessibility considerations when permits are pulled - especially city projects, in order to
insure and identify clear paths of travel for pedestrians. Perhaps the City could create a
checklist for contractors regarding all the required accessibility needs that have to be
met in order for a permit to be issued. If a checklist is not created then these items are
forgotten.
Accessibility/ADA requirements that need to be considered at all different levels of every
project before they begin. Situations that have arisen recently where accessibility
needs were not considered include not only the playground on the Commons, but the
unsafe design of the new fountain on the Commons, the unsafe drop off in the
pavement on the Commons in front of the Bernie Milton Pavilion and the lack of warning
signs on the Commons to alert the public of the steep incline of the sidewalk.
Vice Chair Scriber reported that she recently participated in an ADA treasure map
project around the City. Participants found that easy access is not easy to find in a lot
of places, in some cases, at various locations, employees had to go look for the
information being sought - so it’s always after the fact that disabilities are considered.
Chair Roberts stated that the City really should update its ADA self-assessment. The
last one was done more than 20 years ago. This self -assessment would be good
information for the City to have that could be shared with each of the four new
commissions. He understands that it will be a big project for city staff to conduct
another self-assessment. However, unless one is done, there is no way to gauge the
progress made and what still needs to be done.
Chair Roberts would also like to keep DAC Member Rappaport’s request that work be
done by the City to make sure it has the required percentage of accessibl e parking pay
machines as well as the required percentage of on-street parking spaces. This should
be one of the first major responsibilities for the “Mobility, Accessibility, and
Transportation” commission to undertake and oversee to its completion.
Vice Chair Scriber stated that the City should also require that there be handicap
accessibility taxis or vans available to the public because right now she doesn’t believe
there is one.
Chair Roberts responded that with current issues and concerns around Uber and Lyft
ride services, the requirements for a certain percentage of taxis to be handicap
accessibility are not taken seriously. Currently, there is no way with these ride sharing
programs, to require that a certain percentage of those vehicles be ADA accessible.
These two new ride sharing services are undoing a lot of progress that had been made
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in NYC, and as the program expands outside of NYC it will create even bigger gaps.
Right now, he thinks that local governments have said “let’s wait and see what
happens” before approving any similar program for ride sharing, and go from there.
CC Liaison Brock explained that one of the concepts flown under the restructuring
process is that there would be “working groups” to function under each commission.
Would the DAC propose that there be something like the DAC for each member,
designated as the “accessibility expert” on each of the four new commissions that would
meet to share information between the commissions? That would be four identified
experts who meet regularly or as needed. They would understand the importance of
their role on the commission is to insure that ADA requirements and accessibility
requirements and needs are always considered with every discussion of each topic.
The “working group” would have no staff support and may not have regular meeting
dates. What do DAC members think about that idea? Those four designated members
then would know what is going on around the city (from commission meetings) which
would help make sure accessibility needs are discussed and addressed. Something
like that would be better than what is proposed because no one person can fulfill the
role of representing accessibility needs at all four commissions and the topics under
their purview.
Vice Chair Scriber and DAC Member Rappaport did not support that suggestion
because of the lack of a regular meeting time and the lack of support staff.
DAC Member Rappaport noted that it would have been great if the current make-up of
DAC members could have been broader as well so that there was representation for as
many different types of needs as possible.
Chair Roberts stated that if the City had a designated ADA Coordinator position,
then that person could be the conduit between the city and each of the
commissions. This might be a better solution because they would be connected
directly to the city as a staff person which would improve communication greatly.
Unless the city has an actual ADA Coordinator whose responsibilities are to
ensure ADA law and regulations are followed and considered in every decision
that it probably won’t happen consistently.
DAC Member Sember-Chase asked for clarification regarding the discussion – was it
suggested or recommended that the City of Ithaca hire an ADA Coordinator.
Chair Roberts responded not yet, but the DAC might in the near future; although, he
was thinking that in the meantime, those responsibilities might be shared between one
or two current identified staff members. He did agree that it might not be a bad idea for
the DAC to include that as one of its recommendations.
DAC Member Sember-Chase suggested that it might be good for the DAC to remind the
City that the ADA law requires that the City should have a designated qualified ADA
Coordinator. It should not be a staff person that may or may not be familiar with current
ADA laws and requirements that assumes those duties as they have time.
DAC Member Sember-Chase explained that it was her understanding, and she can
double check, that the City is required to have someone who is designated as the ADA
Coordinator; however, typically that person holds other responsibilities as well.
Vice Chair Scriber asked whether the law required that the person designated as the
ADA Coordinator be required to have a disability or expertise in the area of disabilities
and access.
DAC Member Rappaport stated that he found online a “N ational Association of ADA
Coordinators”, it provides a training program with certification once the program is
successfully completed. He agrees that it might be a good idea to have someone other
than the City Clerk designated as the ADA Coordinator because of all the
responsibilities and duties that position entails related to the management of two
departments (City Clerk’s Office/Information and Technology).
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It was also noted that the City’s ADA Coordinator should also have information about
and be aware of existing policies and procedures of the City of Ithaca. Perhaps the
City’s Workforce Diversity Advisory Committee might be able to provide support for the
recommendation.
Vice Chair Scriber stated that if there is a training and certification program for ADA
Coordinators, perhaps the DAC should recommend to the City that there should be
someone designated as ADA Coordinator and require that they have specific training
and certification and not just an “interest” in providing that support to the City as
needed.
Chair Roberts further noted that a lot of large and small cities have offices that
specifically offer disability/accessibility services with designated staff available to
respond to requests. It makes sense to him that there be someone on city staff who
would be responsible for making sure that accessibility needs are met and complying
with ADA laws. It is a big responsibility of all cities to provide this service to its
community; Ithaca is not a tiny city, and it has local resources that it could be utilized.
There definitely should be an ADA coordinator for the City of Ithaca.
All DAC members agreed and supported that statement.
DAC Member Rappaport recommended that the ADA law be reviewed by the City; it
should also research what national or local organizations provide training and
certification for ADA Coordinators. He has reviewed the website for such a program and
it seems to him to offer to people that attend a lot of well thought out information and the
provision of good training programs.
DAC Member Sember-Chase asked DAC members to think about moving away from
asking for things, and to instead make “recommendations” to the city as decisions are
made related insuring that accessibility is included in discussions of each of the four
commissions. The DAC should provide the information to Common Council and what it
chooses to do with that information is up to them. That way, at lease, DAC members
will know that they did everything they could to make sure that as much information as
they could provide related to ADA law and accessibility had been provided to those
making decisions - that’s all they can do. What the City chooses to do with the
information is up to them; hopefully some of the recommendations will be followed – if
not, then the City may need to learn the hard way what happens when it doesn’t include
those needs in decisions being made. She cautioned DAC members about the best
way to share their concerns about accessibility with the City.
Chair Roberts agreed that was a very good point. The DAC has until at least January
2018 to make sure their recommendations are followed up on. He agrees that
recommending is a better way to propose concerns to Common Council.
CC Liaison Brock recommend to existing members of DAC that as things progress to
the new commission structure, that they make sure to hold the city responsible so that
their recommendations aren’t allowed to fall by the wayside.
Chair Roberts stated that he is already planning to submit an application to serve on
one of the commissions. He hopes that will be helpful in making sure the
recommendations of the DAC are not lost.
DAC Member Rappaport stated that the only way to enforce ADA laws is for people to
file complaints with the Department of Justice. He receives monthly updates from the
Department of Justice; they do investigate the complaints with the municipality it
involves; they do enforce compliance with the ADA laws to ensure appropriate changes
and accommodations are made. Filing a lawsuit against the City of Ithaca due to non-
compliance with the ADA law is not what anyone wants to do; however, sometimes it’s
the only way for changes to be made that comply with the law. It is always better to
work with municipalities about ADA requirements and changes that may be needed in
the spirit of cooperation and wanting to make sure that every community memb er can
participate fully in activities of the City, as well as within municipal facilities rather than
pursuing compliance through the Department of Justice.
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Chair Roberts agreed, and noted that complaints against the City of Ithaca have been
filed with the Department of Justice in the past which resulted in very timely compliance
with whatever changes needed to be made.
Vice Chair Scriber suggested that the thoughts and recommendations discussed today
be provided to the members of the Working Group ahead of the September 6th meeting
so that maybe members of the group will be prepared to provides responses to them at
that meeting; rather than the DAC having to wait for responses to come back to them at
a future point. Other DAC members agreed with that suggestion, and agreed that it will
be important to share all the information discussed prior to the September meeting with
members of the Working Group.
Chair Roberts stated that he would create a list of items that the DAC would like to send
to members of the Working Group before the next meeting from the draft minutes. Vice
Chair Scriber volunteered to assist in this work, Information Management Specialist
Myers will work to have draft minutes completed as soon as possible so that the
information is available to create the list.
Chair Roberts explained that one of the purposes of the meeting is to encourage and/or
have the members of the Working Group agree that they would commit to making sure
that the recommendations from the DAC (like the ADA Coordinator) will be addressed
by the new commissions. Alternately, to have the DAC members leave the meeting
knowing that their recommendations have been shared and will be addressed or
knowing that they will have to wait and see, because commitment by the members of
the Working Group to do that was not forthcoming at the meeting.
Vice Chair Scriber wondered whether the DAC might want discuss the
recommendations and the reasons for them, and then ask that someone from the
Working Group come back to a future DAC meeting to share any changes or decisions
they might have made as a result of the September meeting with the DAC. She is n ot
sure they will answer on the spot at the September meeting, and would be surprised if
they were prepared to provide answers/responses to the information at that meeting.
DAC Member Rappaport noted that Alderperson Mohlenhoff was the Chair of the
Working Group that worked on the new commission structure, as such she might be the
right person to address revising the mission statements of each commission, which
would include the requirement that each commission have a designated member whose
interest or experience is in working with people with disabilities and ADA requirements.
That would be totally separate from the City conducting a self-assessment. He would
also like to have a response regarding the designation of the City’s ADA Coordinator
because he is not sure what exists now as far as current staff that may be designated
as ADA Coordinators.
CC Liaison Brock explained that it is Common Council and the Mayor who create or
approve staff positions. She would encourage the DAC to be specific in the
recommendations shared that the designation of a City of Ithaca ADA Coordinator
would be responsible for not only staff, but the public as well. She wonders if that job
description could be expanded to include specific requirements as far as expertise in
ADA law, and the jurisdiction of that role expanded. The members of the DAC should
be asked what those responsibilities should include and that discussions around ADA
Law and accessibility be a regular agenda item for each commissions rather than just
part of their mission statements.
DAC Member Rappaport noted that in his research a lot of information is available
regarding the role of the ADA Coordinator, and he saw a lot of job descriptions and job
listings for full-time ADA Coordinator positions. Personally, he could imagine that
having a full-time ADA Coordinator in the City of Ithaca would make a lot of sense.
CC Liaison Brock encouraged the DAC to put some pressure on the HR Department,
Mayor, and Common Council to encourage them to have an ADA Coordinator on staff.
That is one of the responsibilities of any advisory commission when certain
requirements are not met.
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Chair Roberts stated that the DAC could make the recommendation that certain each of
the commissions have a list of certain questions to raise during each discussion related
to ADA law and accessibility to make sure that need is addressed. One of the
responsibilities of the “Mobility, Accessibility, and Transportation Commission” might
have would be to make sure that a qualified and certified ADA Coordinator position exist
for the City of Ithaca. Further, the DAC can only advise the city that there should be an
ADA Coordinator; how that ends up will be the decision/choice of whoever exists after
January 1st; however, that recommendation should come from an advisory body.
CC Liaison Brock stated that the City’s Workforce Diversity Advisory Committee, in its
charge in the City Code, is required to provide an “Annual Report Card”. It’s on their
work plan for each year to create this report card on diversity and inclusion - whether its
quality of life or service commissions. If the DAC could ask or recommend that each
commission be required to provide an annual report card that includes information on
how ADA Law and accessibility were incorporated into their discussions in the past
year. That report card might provide a clear direction about what recommendations
from the DAC still need to be addressed.
Chair Roberts stated that he would suggest when the material for the September DAC
meeting is created, the DAC then make a suggestion about where certain issues should
be placed in each of the four new commissions. He and Vice Chair Scriber will work
together to produce the document that will be sent to the members of the Working
Group before the September meeting. The DAC will take the approach that the items in
the document are their recommendations for inclusion in the four new commissions, and
then use the remaining DAC meetings to move those things forward.
DAC Members suggested that in the invitation to the members of the Working Group
that they be asked to RSVP whether or not they’ll be attending the meeting.
Recent Items DAC Involved With (Not Complete):
Emergency broadcast needs for people with disabilities
Sidewalks
City Website
Met with Police Chief (training for officers related to mental health issues)
Permits - building/sidewalk
Commons Playground
Parks/trails
Carousel
Building accessibility
Age friendly Tompkins County plan
Parking kiosks
Parking meters/scratch off cards
Accessible parking spots
Pop up parks
Snow ice - exterior property maintenance - fine structures
Increase in fines for handicap parking fines
Public service announcements
Surveys
Accessibility concerns during fire/emergency situations
Tour with city staff (engineering) to look at construction of sidewalks and curb cuts and
why they are constructed in certain ways; accessibility requirements
Individual tour with staff on East Buffalo Street related to obstacles in the
sidewalks/curbs encountered on a daily basis
Large involvement in city sidewalk program
Means restrictions (nets over bridges)
Lift for pool at GIAC
Met with Youth Bureau – needs of the youth in the community related to accessibility
Hand rails in parking garages
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Explain to members of the Working Group that DAC has tended to be reactionary rather
than proactive in its work concerning accessibility around the city. The DAC has been
working continually to have accessibility needs discussed and included with the start of
any project and they want to make sure that it is considered and improved upon in the
future to the point that it is part of the everyday work of the City.
Chair Roberts asked DAC Member Sember-Chase if she would review the invitation
before it goes out to make sure it follows the approach she suggested.
CC Liaison Brock reported that the Workforce Diversity Advisory Committee is
working to put together a fragrance-free policy for city buildings and public
meeting spaces. In addition they have finalized the Community Investment
Incentive Tax Abatement Program Toolkit (CIITAP).
Adjournment:
On a motion the meeting adjourned at 1:35 p.m.
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Sarah L. Myers, Larry Roberts,
Information Management Specialist Chair