HomeMy WebLinkAboutMN-DAC-2016-10-05Disability Advisory Council Meeting Minutes
October 5, 2016
Present:
Chair Roberts
Vice Chair Scriber
DAC Members:
Erin Sember-Chase
Lisa Monroe
CC Liaison Brock
Others Present:
Information Management Specialist – Myers
City Clerk – Julie Conley Holcomb
Transportation Engineer – Hathaway
Susan Saran – Observer/Member of the Public
Excused:
DAC Members: Anderson, McElrath, Rappaport
Approval of Minutes:
Approval of the September 7, 2016 Disability Advisory Council Meeting Minutes -
Resolution
By Vice Chair Scriber: Seconded by DAC Member Sember-Chase
RESOLVED, That the minutes of the September 7, 2016 Disability Advisory Council
meeting be approved as published.
Carried Unanimously
Updates:
Chair Roberts reported that Common Council approved the tax abatement policy that
was discussed at the September 7, 2016 meeting of the DAC.
Chair Roberts followed up with Chief of Staff Cogan about the status of the City’s ADA
self-assessment and the possibility of updating it. Chief of Staff Cogan has met with
Director of Planning, Building, Zoning and Economic Development Cornish about the
assessment. He has developed a list of other staff that he would like to discuss the self-
assessment with, but has not been able to actually meet with them yet. He apologized
for not being able to provide more information than that right now, but wanted the DAC
to know that he is working on it.
Chair Roberts further reported that both capital projects that the DAC discussed recently
– the lift at the Alex Haley Pool and the Commons Playground accessibility
improvements were approved by the Mayor and Common Council for the 2017 budget.
Right now, as far as the Commons Playground project goes, the money will be set aside
until a plan is prepared by the designer of the playground and presented to staff, the
DAC and Common Council for approval. He noted that since the DAC did meet with
Planning Department staff about this project, it does have some sense of what changes
it would like to see for the playground. Once staff have the information from the
designer they will come back to the DAC to present it and discuss it. It was noted that
the plans that DAC had discussed for the playground involved the removal of the base
material so the structure could be more accessible as well as re-arranging some of the
pieces for the same reason.
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Chair Roberts reminded DAC members that a couple of meetings ago DAC Member
Rappaport suggested that there were a number of things that the DAC keeps talking
about, but then nothing happens to address the concerns. DAC Member Rappaport
would like to find a way to make sure that staff and/or contractor’s make the necessary
changes or bring the projects to completion. In some instances, it is a matter of bringing
the situation or concern to the attention of the public so everyone is aware of why
certain things need to be done to ensure accessibility for everyone. If that does not
occur, how can the DAC enforce the requirement and/or determine the responsible
person they should be discussing the matter with. Particularly, keeping sidewalks and
paths of travel easily accessible in the downtown business district and in Collegetown.
Chair Roberts stated that in preparation for today’s meeting with City Clerk Holcomb to
discuss the City of Ithaca website and DAC information, he came up with the following
list of suggestions that could be publicized to highlight their importance:
Snow and ice removal
Clear paths of travel during construction
No parking across sidewalks, in crosswalks
The responsibility of event planners using city property or facilities to submit
plans to the city for access, as part of the permitting process
Keeping business district sidewalks/paths of travel clear – signage, tables
In addition, there are a lot of other ‘smaller’ issues that have been discussed over time;
he wondered if DAC members had other ideas or suggestions to add to the list. He said
the items in the list are things that the DAC has discussed over the years, the purpose
of today’s discussion is how to bring them to the public’s attention, to make sure the
rules are enforced consistently, and to add them to the DAC web page on the City’s
website. Another suggestion he would have for the DAC page is to have a Frequently
Asked Questions (FAQ’s) section that the public and staff could refer to as needed.
CC Liaison Brock suggested that with regard to the importance of snow and ice removal
from sidewalks, it would be good to include a suggestion that would encourage
individuals “Adopt a Curb Cut” in the various neighborhoods and work together to keep
the curb free from ice and snow.
Discussion Items:
Conversation with Julie Holcomb, Department of Public Information and
Technology regarding possible updates to the Disability Advisory Council’s page
on the City of Ithaca Website:
City Clerk Holcomb stated that she really likes the idea of a FAQ’s section. She
explained that one of the issues that the City has encountered through the years is
information falling through the cracks in communication so then it becomes a question
of how do you get the information to people and in what format do they want to receive
it. Right now, the City uses its website, social media, and news releases to share
information with the public. She expects that through those means of communication
the City is reaching probably around 5,000 people in a community of 30,000. Beyond
those means to communicate, it is a very challenging population to work with due to its
transient nature with both students and community members. She does send
information to the Ithaca Times and Ithaca Journal which still print hard copies of the
newspaper, but they’re not so popular with the general public; the Ithaca Journal in
particular does not cover a lot of local news. She also sends information to the Ithaca
Voice which is a local online news source that is very popular. The City of Ithaca no
longer has a local television news channel; although Channel 10 News, from Syracuse,
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will occasionally run some information about the city. There is a local news radio
station, but the local news is broadcast early in the morning so that it does not have a
very big listening audience.
DAC Member Sember-Chase wondered whether the City had tried sending information
to 14850.com which has grown quite a following for a news source, as it might be a
good place to send the information as well.
City Clerk Holcomb responded that they are on the City’s media list, and they are
actually the first news source to respond back to her if there is a mistake in the notice or
it the information is not clear.
Vice Chair Scriber asked whether the City had considered utilizing Cornell University
and Ithaca College’s media/social sites to communicate information.
City Clerk Holcomb responded that the City has tried to send information to them;
however, they usually politely decline because they have their own information to send
that they want students to read. They’re afraid if they add any more to what they
already distribute the students won’t read the information. The City continues to work
with the Cornell Daily Sun and the Cornell Chronicle to send information out through
them. She also works with the office of Cornell Off-Campus Housing to send out
information and they have been very engaged and a great resource for the City to utilize
in that respect.
DAC Member Sember-Chase suggested that the City reach out to the off-campus
housing to see if they might have a grad student listserve that the City could tap into for
distribution of information. Utilizing listserves like that really helps to get the word out
because every person you send that information then forwards it to others.
City Clerk Holcomb stated that the offices of Cornell Community Relations and Off-
Campus Housing are great resources to use to send information out from the City
through e-mail lists.
DAC Member Monroe suggested that when the City uses its social media to send out
information that it might be good to begin “tagging” the posts because that way they
tend to get shared through a domino like effect.
Chair Roberts asked whether the City was part of the Human Services listserve group.
City Clerk Holcomb responded that it’s not, and there are reasons not to do that,
specifically because of the volume of e-mails to the City it would result in. She further
noted that the City does utilize an e-mail distribution for neighborhood listserves that are
then shared, but even these are not working as they should be. Another tool that the
City recently began using, and which Common Council members have been great about
promoting is the City website’s “Notify Me” tool. The public can use this tool to self-
subscribe to whatever information they might want to receive from the City such as
agendas, press releases, construction releases, etc. which seems to be working well to
get information out to the public.
Vice Chair Scriber questioned whether the problem with the distribution of information
and the issue of the public, in particular students, saying that they are unaware of
whatever the City may be doing or asking is that they don’t understand why the various
concerns regarding accessibility are important.
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City Clerk Holcomb responded yes, that the students are young, living away from home
for the first time or recently living off-campus from dorms and they typically don’t think
about mobility and accessibility issues unless they know someone with mobility issues.
Vice Chair Scriber stated that it would be good for Chair Roberts or someone to record
a video entitled “a day in the life of” which would be a good educational tool. That way
the public could be educated about the reasons why certain things need to be done for
accessibility reasons. Sometimes a picture is worth a thousand words.
Chair Roberts stated that another resource is to have a place on the DAC’s city
webpage where there is a FAQ section that then explains the rules about snow and ice
removal from sidewalks and paths of travel, and why parking a vehicle across a
sidewalk is not allowed, the importance of removing and trimming bushes so those with
visual impairments can have clear access on the sidewalk, etc. as a good place to start
on the DAC webpage. Alternately, the City of Ithaca could make an announcement that
the DAC has a FAQ page and where it can be found on the City’s website.
City Clerk Holcomb responded that she would be happy to assist with that and asked if
the DAC could highlight relevant or priority type items that they would like to see, as a
start, to creating a resource for the public regarding the DAC and accessibility
requirements in the City of Ithaca.
Chair Roberts suggested that he and any other DAC members that might be interested
set up a time, aside from a regular DAC meeting, to meet with City Clerk Holcomb to
discuss the DAC’s webpage and the FAQ’s.
CC Liaison Brock suggested talking with the Ithaca Police Department and the
Community Service Officers regarding enforcement of some of these issues.
She further reported that during last weekend’s Apple Harvest Festival, she received
information through social media that there were barricades in a cross-walk blocking it
entirely for pedestrians and people in wheelchairs, there were also vehicles blocking the
cross-walks on streets that were closed for the festival. This meant that people had to
go into the street to access the festival activities, which is not something they should
have to do. She reported that people did contact Ithaca Police officers to provide
assistance in moving the truck and barricades to open up the cross-walk, but the officer
seemed reluctant to do so. This resulted in someone in a wheelchair who could not
attend the festival because they could not access it because of the cross-walk being
blocked. She wondered what training the City could provide officers about accessibility
requirements. She realizes that with special events barriers are often put up by
volunteers who need training on the importance of keeping crosswalks and curbs clear
and accessible at all times. People should not have to go into the street and put
themselves at risk of being hit by a car in order to attend the event.
Chair Roberts stated that if there is some kind of special policy that the City has to allow
for crosswalks to be blocked for an event, then the DAC should know the reason for the
policy.
City Clerk Holcomb responded that the Apple Harvest Festival is a special event. All
special event applications require the submission of an accessibility plan for the event
and its activities. She would like to know more specifics about the problem with the
recent Apple Harvest Festival so she can address it with the event organizer.
Chair Roberts stated that is will be great to have a FAQ page for these general
questions; it would also be nice to have a link for FAQ’s related to special events and for
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contractors. He noted that the contractors doing work on the hotel on South Cayuga
Street did a good job of providing an alternate sidewalk that is wide enough to
accommodate all users as work is being done in and around the sidewalk of the hotel.
DAC Member Sember-Chase stated that the Department of Justice guidelines have a
good guide for accessibility related to special events that event organizers could find as
a helpful resource; perhaps the City could provide a link to that website for ease of
access.
City Clerk Holcomb responded that all special event organizers are required to provide
an accessibility plan for their event. She stated that things may have gotten a little lax
about accessibility requirements because so many of the special events use city
facilities that are accessible. For example, the Commons, City Parks, the Cayuga
Waterfront Trail; however, she agrees that by pointing out particular areas that event
organizers need to pay attention to like making sure crosswalks are kept open and
completely accessible that it helps organizers become more cognizant of these
important areas to make sure everyone can attend their event. She further stated, that
most of the special events are getting very large as they become more and more
popular so that they are outgrowing the original footprints for the event, and the City
needs to be very vigilant regarding accessibility needs as they work with organizers to
grow the events.
DAC Member Sember-Chase asked if the DAC could see what a special event
accessibility plan looked like to review it. City Clerk Holcomb responded that she would
e-mail the special event application to DAC members and explained that the application
for a special event permit is a two phased process. The first phase involves just the
basics of the event – i.e. who, what, when, where, etc. and the second phase is more
involved as far as providing an accessibility plan, trash removal plans; it is an extensive
application process.
DAC Member Sember-Chase wondered if whoever is reviewing the accessibility plan
would catch something that was not meeting the ADA requirements for accessibility.
City Clerk Holcomb responded that was a good point, and that there is a special event
team that meets once a month. That team would love to have someone from the DAC
sit on the committee and attend meetings for that purpose.
Discussion followed on the floor regarding the different pieces to the DAC’s goal of
making sure that everyone has access to anything they need within the City of Ithaca. It
will involve education, working with local colleges to engage and educate students
about ADA, whether pictures that would clearly show examples of what accessibility
should look like, as well as the resources that the Department of Justice has that could
be used in this project. The DAC should work to put the FAQ’s together at a separate
meeting, and then determine what its role should be as far as making sure large events
comply with ADA requirements. Another resource that should be made available to the
public is information about where to go to make a complaint about lack of accessibility
at an event – be it an event organizer of the City of Ithaca. It may be that some people
don’t know that they can complain and so that information should be shared as well in
an ongoing effort to meet everyone’s needs.
CC Liaison Brock suggested that the DAC keep in mind the need for additional
education for IPD officers about why preserving an accessibility route is important. In
this case, during the Apple Harvest Festival, no one could get to church because the
crosswalk and curb were blocked at West State/Martin Luther King, Jr. Street and
Geneva Street that affected access for church members.
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City Clerk Holcomb agreed that making sure event organizers’ are aware of activities
and events taking place outside their own event at all times is very important. She noted
that working on the education piece for IPD officers might be more difficult because of
the number of officers that would need training; training of Community Service Officers
may be less difficult because there are fewer of them. She knows that Director of
Parking Nagy, who supervisors the Community Service Officers, is happy to work with
the DAC as well.
City Clerk Holcomb further stated that enforcement is a problem. For example, the
recent “pop-up park” in Collegetown during construction was a problem as far as
accessibility was concerned. The discussions and plans leading up to the park involved
a lot of staff time, and she was in those meetings and there were specific discussions
about access to sidewalks and the need to provide ramps. Once the City was made
aware of the lack of accessibility, it reached out to the organizer about it. The City relies
heavily on the public to inform it when there are accessibility issues.
She further reminded the DAC of the brochure that her office worked to create with
them about accessibility which is available for the public. She has a supply of the
brochures displayed at the City Clerk’s office for the taking, and she took them to
Cornell University’s BEAR walk (a meet and greet between city and Cornell officials with
students at the end of August). She asked DAC members to let her know of other
locations where they would like the brochure to be displayed and available for the taking
by the public. The brochure is also on the City’s website for people to refer to.
Accessible Parking Discussion with Transportation Engineer Hathaway:
Chair Roberts stated that DAC Member Rappaport, Director of Engineering Logue,
Transportation Engineer Hathaway had e-mailed one another about a concern that was
raised at the September 7, 2016 DAC meeting by DAC Member Rappaport. The
following is information that has been shared regarding on-street accessible parking
concerns of the DAC:
At the City of Ithaca Disability Advisory Council meeting on September 7, the DAC
noted that adding accessible parking spaces throughout the city has been under
discussion since the four or six accessible spaces that were in the City lot adjacent to
the Carey building were closed.
As the lot has been closed for at least 18 months, DAC Member Rappaport asked, on
behalf of the DAC, that the processes of adding accessible spaces comprehensively
throughout the City in metered parking areas be prioritized. Chair Roberts suggested
that a task force could be established to assist in locating these spaces to comply with
the guidelines if required.
Transportation Engineer Logue, through e-mail, provided a copy of the current policy for
reserved parking spaces that was approved by the Board of Public Works (BPW) (and
amended with the input of the DAC). If anyone would like to propose new spaces, she
or he can do so according to the policy and it's a staff level decision. If anyone would
like to change the policy, it needs to go back to the BPW for approval. Either way, it's a
good place to start.
Chair Roberts responded to that e-mail to explain that he thought that DAC Member
Rappaport’s e-mail had been misunderstood. Chair Roberts went on then to explain
that the DAC believes that there is not enough designated accessible parking on
The street. The DAC would like to work with whomever it makes sense to involve to
determine what would be a good number of such spaces, and on which blocks. What
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the DAC wants can't be addressed by individual requests for spots in specific locations,
such as in front of a home or apartment building.
The response back from Director of Engineering Logue was to say “doesn't the policy
say that in metered areas, since there is no requirement for reserved spaces on street,
the City will consider public requests (could include the DAC), use some of the criteria
of off-street requirements, and try to have a reasonable balance”? If there are locations
where the DAC or anyone thinks the City should have a reserved space, then ask. If the
DAC wants to put together a working group to evaluate these, that's no problem either.
Or, maybe what was being said is that we should have a number or percentage set
aside, like there is for off-street facilities that would automatically be applied to all City
streets (or some portion of them, like the (Commercial Business District) (CBD)),
regardless of whether someone or the DAC asks. He understands that the Access
Board may be considering something along these lines, but until that becomes law, he
thinks the City's policy would still be the guide. So, if this is more in line with what the
DAC is thinking, his perspective is that that should be recommended to the BPW to
change the policy. It would have some far reaching implications. Does that make
sense?
DAC Rappaport, since he could not be at today’s meeting, provided the following
response back to the question above. He understands that this on street accessible
parking is not yet required by the DOJ, but he’s heard for a few years it is forthcoming.
Similar to the 2003 Barden v. City of Sacramento decision that the ADA does apply to
sidewalks, a case for accessible on-street parking was settled in 2014. The comment
stating that adding accessible on-street parking will have “far reaching implications" for
the City, he would like to see this conversation started and possibly a selective
implementation. The DAC started this discussion after accessible spaces near the
Commons were lost when the City lot adjacent to the Carey building was closed, so
targeting retail and public assembly areas would be a good first step towards future
compliance.
Transportation Engineer Hathaway explained that Director of Parking Nagy should also
be included in discussions regarding parking. He makes the decisions on where to
place new meters or signs for direction. However, prior to Mr. Hathaway’s current
position, he did manage sidewalks and has a lot of experience about accessibility.
He agrees with Director of Engineering Logue that it will be an effort and have impacts if
the City puts an accessible space every 25 feet all over the city. What he would
propose is that the project start by having the City’s GIS department provide a map to
see where current accessible spaces are located. This would be a good job for an
intern who could do a physical evaluation and check what there is now as a start to
determine where and how many additional spaces are needed. This is not an overly
technical project, but it would take some time to do.
Chair Roberts responded that the DAC has always felt that there needs to be more
accessible parking. DAC Member Rappaport’s suggestion was that we need to start
somewhere, but eventually DOJ will weigh in when necessary on what is required.
Transportation Engineer Hathaway explained that as far as public right-of-way and
accessibility guidelines go that the guidelines from the DOJ are still in draft form, and
will probably be finalized next year. The DOJ still has some issues they are working
through.
DAC Member Sember-Chase asked if the draft guidelines are accepted standards, and
just not enforceable without the DOJ’s sign off at this time?
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Transportation Engineer Hathaway responded that there is no reason for the City not to
be proactive in this project. He would start with the GIS information to see how far from
the goal we are. After that the DAC and staff could discuss with Director of Parking
Nagy, and the City’s GIS Specialist, Ruth Aslanis where designated spaces might be
located. He believes that designed on-street parking spaces would be located near the
end of the block so that they are near a ramp for accessibility; at least that would be his
suggestion. As far as implementation, as noted above, he would suggest the use of an
intern for the project. This is an important project; however, he does have other projects
he is working on that take priority right now, and it would be a good project for an intern
to do an inventory of current on-street accessible parking spaces as a start to
determining where the City needs to go from there.
DAC Member Monroe, from Tompkins County Office of the Aging, suggested that there
might be some occupational therapy students that could assist in the inventory project.
Transportation Engineer Hathaway responded that would be great because traditionally
he would go to Cornell University for their engineering students. He noted that if the
occupational therapy students took on the project during a semester, the scope would
have to be very limited due to their busy school schedules. For this project, of
inventorying the number of accessible on-street parking spaces he would prefer one
intern that could complete the project in two months; rather than three people, during
school, working on the project for two months. He just feels it would be a better way to
begin the work on the project.
Chair Roberts asked that the project would involve – would it be data related to how
many, where, and what type of designation is for the on-street parking spaces. It was
also noted that having a GIS map of the current locations is a good start, but you really
need someone to do a physical inventory as well because there may be other factors in
the area that would either prevent or support such a space physically.
DAC Member Sember-Chase asked if the City might have some sort of map already
that shows all the parking and where the accessible parking is. Transportation Engineer
Hathaway responded that he could check with the City’s GIS department to see, and
that might be a good place to start to review the information together with the DAC.
Chair Roberts stated that another small, but important detail to consider is what would
the signs look like. In some cases it’s just a sign with a picture of a person in a
wheelchair, is that what the DAC wants? Another question is should the meters be left
or not - now that the City has the new scratch-off cards to pay for parking; all these
questions will need to be discussed and solutions determined.
Chair Roberts stated that another topic he wanted to discuss with Transportation
Engineer Hathaway is an issue brought to his attention by a member of the City’s
Bicycle Pedestrian and Advisory Council. It concerns some a curb ramp on East
Buffalo Street that does not have a ramp and so people just come right out into the
intersection. Another such curb is at an intersection on Hector Street.
Transportation Engineer Hathaway explained that East Buffalo and North Tioga Streets
recently underwent a street re-surfacing project to upgrade curbs and ramps. He has
responded to the person who had the concern about the type of curb at the intersection
there. He explained that there are different kinds of approved curb ramps since all
intersections are not the same physically and so this particular curb ramp does not allow
for a blended transition from the sidewalk to the street due to lack of space.
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Transportation Engineer Hathaway reported that through the City’s Sidewalk
Improvement District funding that Hector Street will have a sidewalk designed from
Vinegar Hill to Fall View Terrace that should help to address the above curb. The City
is going to apply for a grant through the Federal Government for this project which will
result in improved accessibility as well as improved access to public transportation. The
grant will fund 80% of the cost of the project and the City will pay the 20% difference out
of that area’s sidewalk improvement district assessments for a couple years. The
application is being put together by Sidewalk Program Manager Licitra, and the City is
considering extending the project to the City line in the application. The City needs to
provide the design and cost estimate for the application. The deadline for submission of
the grant application is October 21, 2016; notification would then be made in early 2017.
CC Liaison Brock noted that Tompkins County conducts a traffic analysis of dangerous
areas and most expensive areas for accidents and one of the most expensive is the
curve on Hector Street. If the City can keep people from walking in the street by
installing these sidewalks it will make the area so much better.
DAC Member Sember-Chase left the meeting at 1:15 p.m.
A brief discussion followed on the floor regarding safety concerns on Spencer Road and
the Stone Quarry intersection. The Board of Public Works discussed the project at their
October 3rd meeting and approved the proposal to dead-end Spencer Street at the
Stone Quarry Road intersection. This is one of the capital projects included in the 2017
budget.
Adjournment:
On a motion the meeting adjourned at 1:20 p.m.
_______________________________ ______________________________
Sarah L. Myers, Larry Roberts,
Information Management Specialist Chair