HomeMy WebLinkAboutMN-DAC-2016-07-06Disability Advisory Council Meeting Minutes
July 6, 2016
Present:
Chair Roberts
Vice Chair Scriber
DAC Members:
David McElrath
Erin Sember-Chase
Andrew Rappaport
Lisa Monroe
Others Present:
Information Management Specialist – Myers
Transportation Engineer – Hathaway
Director of Planning, Building, Zoning & Economic Development – Cornish
Senior Planner - Kusznir
Erin Vallely, Community Member
Intern from Tompkins County Office for the Aging
Excused:
DAC Member: Anderson
Approval of Minutes:
Approval of the June 1, 2016 Disability Advisory Council Meeting Minutes - Resolution
By DAC Member McElrath: Seconded by Vice Chair Scriber
RESOLVED, That the minutes of the June 1, 2016 Disability Advisory Council meeting be
approved as published.
Carried Unanimously
A Conversation with Planning Department Staff Regarding the Capital Project Request
for the Commons Playground:
Director of Planning, Building, Zoning and Economic Development Cornish and Senior Planner
Kusznir provided an update on the progress of work towards writing the capital project request
for the accessibility improvements needed on the playground. In the meantime, they had work
done to make the platform accessible; however what was removed were the stairs and the
platform is still there so it is not easily accessible for any children now. There was obviously a
miscommunication of what work they wanted to have done. They are working to re-install the
steps for now. The safety surface underneath the structure needed repair so it was removed
and replaced at the same time. Their goal is to have the structure completely level with the
underneath surface so that access is improved for everyone. They met with the designer of
the structure to present ideas of how to improve access and add some new features such as
activity panels. The designer has a list of all the changes that the City would like to see made
to the structure as discussed in previous meetings with the DAC. Now, the City is waiting for
their proposal with costs to come back because once the costs are known, they will be able to
complete the capital project request. They will come back to the DAC with the request in order
to obtain assistance and feedback on the features included and to help them prioritize them.
DAC Member Rappaport asked whether any further things could be done at grade level to help
a wheelchair use the features on the structure.
Senior Planner Kusznir responded that there options that could be considered to improving
access - other than reinstalling the steps; however, they are very expensive. She further
noted, that a merry-go-round feature would be very expensive to incorporate into the structure.
She also noted that they are very limited by the confined space allotted for the structure and
the requirement to keep and maintain clear access to the fire lane. She encouraged DAC
members to please continue to provide suggestions to them in the meantime for ideas of
possible changes that might work.
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Chair Roberts explained that the DAC’s input to the capital project request is a first step in the
process. He is really interested in the merry-go-round feature, in which children in wheelchairs
would be able to ride. He would also like to have some kids go in and look at the space and to
see how they access different parts of the play structure and which features seem more
popular than others.
Discussion followed on the floor regarding the new surface, a new very accessible playground
recently built in Binghamton (designed and built by the same designer for the Commons
Playground), and the confined space of the Commons playground which really limits any type
of improvement or change to the structure. Also, some, at today’s meeting, did watch the
Commons Playground during the Ithaca Festival to get an idea of what the kids play with how
they play on the structure. There were a lot of kids using the structure and they seemed to be
using everything - including the abacus.
Director of Planning, Building, Zoning and Economic Development Cornish asked DAC
members whether the plan that was presented today sounds good to them. She noted that
once she gets more cost numbers for activity panels and the estimate they will put all the
ideas, which they will need assistance from the DAC in prioritizing, into the capital project
request. However, that does not necessarily mean that Common Council will approve all of
them.
Chair Roberts stated that if the access could be improved and the activity panels installed
sooner that would be great. He further stated that DAC members should think of this as the
minimum that needs to happen right now.
DAC Member Rappaport asked whether the plans for the interactive fountain feature are still
progressing.
Director of Planning, Building, Zoning and Economic Development Cornish responded that the
fountain will not be interactive due to cost and requirements which make that option too
prohibitive. An interactive fountain feature triggers a lot of different requirements, including
health department requirements, a life guard would need to be hired, the water tested hourly,
and changing stations and rest rooms would have to be provided. The fountain will use
recirculating water which will need to be tested once a day.
Chair Roberts stated that he did have some questions about the Commons that he would like
to ask Director of Planning, Building, Zoning and Economic Development Cornish as long as
she was at the meeting. He noted that it would seem that the area around the Bernie Milton
needs to have some type of indication of the change in grade and the slope down to the stage
area. Right now, there is nothing and if people aren’t paying attention, they can trip and fall on
the concrete and risk physical injury to themselves.
Director of Planning, Building, Zoning and Economic Development Cornish responded that
staff are aware of this issue and it is being discussed to see what can be done to make the
area safer.
Chair Roberts stated that there should be some visual signage; in addition, there seem to be
small divots in and about the Commons that cause immediate tripping hazards and if one is in
a wheel chair they can cause them to tip over. Director of Planning, Building, Zoning and
Economic Development Cornish stated that the divots were on the checklist for the contractor
to fix and it was not done.
Chair Roberts noted that once the fence is gone from around Simeon's, the Commons will be
complete, and he feels that with the new design of the Commons that things are going much
smoother and everything seems to run much better.
Director of Planning, Building, Zoning and Economic Development Cornish asked DAC
members for suggestions on how to alert pedestrians to the change in grade near the stage
area. Should the City consider some type of visual cues about the change in grade and slope
of the area to the stage?
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DAC Member Rappaport responded that he will review the code for the sign requirements for
outside areas where the grade changes in slope. He knows that the code for interior areas
where there is a change in slope requires a contrasting color to separate the two levels, but he
is not sure about exterior requirements. He believes that the designer for the Commons,
Sasaki, met code; however, there are additional things that should be done to alert the public
about the area. Maybe sandpaper like strips in different colors – it would be an inexpensive
and fairly quick solution even though they won’t last forever, just something to consider for
now. It is, though, a significant drop-off at the stage area that people need to be aware of.
Chair Roberts noted that in addition to vision impaired pedestrians, many of the nation’s baby
boomers are becoming senior citizens, which means that there are more and more people that
have vision problems. Are there any experts in the aging field that might be able to provide
guidance and recommendations to the City as to the best way to alert the public about the
change in grade in this area where all the concerts and special events are held? Perhaps
someone from Tompkins County Office for the Aging might be a resource for information. Vice
Chair Scriber noted that BOCES also works with visually impaired people all the time, and
might be a resource to provide recommendations. She stated that City staff should contact
Cheryl Button who is the Director of Special Education at BOCES.
Senior Planner Kusznir asked DAC Member Rappaport to send her information about the sand
paper type adhesive that could be used to transition from the even grade of the Commons to
the slope in grade as one approaches the Bernie Milton Pavilion.
DAC Member McElrath encouraged the City to increase public information and education
about paying attention to where you’re walking and texting and the dangers people expose
themselves to when they’re not paying attention to where they are walking.
Chair Roberts asked when discussions about the City’s budget and Capital Project Requests
begin. Director of Planning, Building, Zoning and Economic Development Cornish responded
that those meetings will begin soon. As they get information from the playground designer
they will share it with the DAC. They will also make sure that DAC members are informed
when a city committee will be meeting to consider the proposal, so that they can participate
and provide input as needed.
DAC members thanked Director of Planning, Building, Zoning and Economic Development
Cornish and Senior Planner Kusznir for attending the meeting and providing the update.
Discussion About the 2017 Sidewalk Program with Transportation Engineer Hathaway:
Transportation Engineer Hathaway and members of the DAC held a brief discussion about the
signage regarding accessible parking spaces and the lollipop meters that have been left on the
streets for those spaces.
DAC Member Rappaport noted that it would be great, at the accessible spaces around the
City, to have some sort of signage at the back of the spot so that other cars that park on the
street near them do not take up the space that is meant to be the accessible space. With all
the new pay stations around the City and the removal of most of the meters it is not so clear
where the designated parking spaces are specifically, and people tend to not leave room for
someone to park in the accessible space. He noted this is especially true for the spot on West
Seneca Street near Geneva Street.
Chair Roberts reported that the traffic signal voice at East Green Street and South Cayuga
does not start at the beginning when it is safe for pedestrians to cross the street, it only comes
on at the end to warn pedestrians not to cross the street. He would like to request that it either
be repaired or replaced with a better signal. He is also not concerned about any noise
complaints that the City might receive when the voice signal is repaired from residents or
businesses that are located at that intersection. It is a very busy intersection with lots of
pedestrians and the voice activated signal needs to work it the manner it was meant to.
DAC Member Rappaport asked about the work to install/create additional accessible spaces
around the City. He noted that four spaces were lost during the recent construction at the
Carey Building on East State/Martin Luther King, Jr. Street. In addition, he wondered when the
new standards for on-street accessible parking would be available. When that information is
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considered, he would recommend a more holistic approach be taken about where those spots
be located because right now it seems like they are placed in a hodge podge manner.
Transportation Engineer Hathaway responded that they are trying to evaluate different things
around the City like that. For example, creation of more accessible parking, increased
signage, and pavement markings. There needs to be a plan to locate the spaces in areas
where they are really needed. They are also considering to what extent work to paint the
pavement markings and bike lanes should be contracted out where contractors use the more
durable type paint and then keep in-house the work that can be done with water based paint.
The Department of Public Works will review all this information so that it can consider bigger
projects for street work that will include curbs/ramps, sidewalks, and signage since it makes
more sense all the way around to do all the work in a particular area at once.
He further noted that the guidelines are actually contained in a national document rather than a
New York State document. They provide guidance for public right-of-way accessibility. The
previous guidelines were geared towards interior accessibility. He noted that some states
have adopted the guidelines, and the Department of Justice has not adopted it yet. He is using
it as the City's guideline for doing sidewalks because it is the best standard out there and he is
choosing to follow it for the City.
Transportation Engineer Hathaway Eric reported that there was a meeting held at Titus Towers
last week just to discuss and receive input on sidewalks and accessibility issues. The
residents there completed a survey that was created and developed by Ithaca College
students on barriers to accessibility in the City of Ithaca. Residents at McGraw House also
completed the survey. That information is now being sorted through and will be used
throughout the City for age related input where there may be barriers to accessibility. He felt it
was a very good meeting with residents of Titus Towers with good feedback that is being
sorted out right now.
A brief discussion followed on the floor regarding the timing of the traffic signal at the
intersection of Route 13 and Wood Street not being long enough for pedestrians to safely
cross the road. There is also a dip in the road to the curb there that can trap wheelchair users.
Transportation Engineer Hathaway responded that the traffic signal there is owned by New
York State and they are aware of the situation. Chair Roberts stated that he does not
understand the State’s resistance to making this needed change since it is a major
thoroughfare that is used by so many people.
DAC Member Sember-Chase left the meeting at 1 p.m.
Transportation Engineer Hathaway stated that the sidewalk at the intersection of Route 13 and
Fair Street is getting replaced this year, along with that work they are also redesigning the
intersection. He would really like it if Titus Towers would do some work to install sidewalk for
people to come and go from Titus Towers II to Fair Street. He noted that it would be really
nice if the City could collaborate with them on such a project.
He further reported that the City of Ithaca is working on a transition plan for curb ramps and
sidewalks. He distributed that information to DAC members and encouraged them to review it
(it will be attached to the minutes). He explained that the City of Ithaca has 78 miles of
sidewalks and curb ramps that need to be addressed in an organized way. With the new
Sidewalk Program, when someone has requested a sidewalk, the City will survey and evaluate
the whole block. Since the program started, 25 miles of sidewalk have been constructed and
the new methodology and GIS tools have assisted that effort greatly (the work also includes
curb ramps). If someone requests a sidewalk, they try to proactively prioritize them. In
addition, when roads are milled and repaved, the sidewalks and curbs are also done. The
methodology and prioritization are based upon the location of the sidewalk. For example, is it
close to a school, government office, or a church, etc., and then by condition. This document
will get updated on an ongoing and yearly basis and will list work done, work to be done and
what percentage of the City has become accessible through the program. He asked DAC
members to look through it and provide feedback to him on the document, and then he will
attend the next DAC meeting to review and discuss it further with them.
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Chair Roberts reported that there are now six curb ramps that he used to be able to use but
because of milling and repaving of those streets, he can’t use now. There has to be some
acknowledgement by city crews when road work is being done that for pedestrians it doesn’t
matter that another division of the Department of Public Works did the work. They need to
make sure the curb and curb ramp there is left so that they are completely accessible to
everyone. Right now, it appears that because sidewalk and curb work is being done by the
Sidewalk Program division that other divisions think that they aren’t responsible for them. The
communication between divisions within the Department of Public Works needs to improve so
that when any road work is done that will affect the curbs and ramps that they be included in
the project. The Department of Public Works really needs to figure this out because right now
as they currently operate, they are creating problems that didn’t exist prior to the work. He gets
tired of hearing its’ someone else’s job because at the end of the day everyone needs to be
able to access the sidewalk and curb. When street projects are done, it should be the
responsibility of the contractor or city crew to also repair the curb and ramp area to make sure
it’s accessible; not leave it because it’s not their job.
Transportation Engineer Hathaway agreed and explained that part of the problem is the need
to educate city staff about the importance of maintaining accessible curbs and ramps. When
Melissa Anderson was here, from the Department of Justice, he took her to where the crew
from Streets and Facilities was working. She told them just what they needed to do as far as
making sure curbs and ramps are accessible whenever they do any type of road work; he
thinks the crews now understand. A better methodology and beginning to be more proactive
when staff are aware of mill and repave projects to let crews know from the beginning of the
project that curbs need to be included in the work is going to be very important.
Chair Roberts stated that the reason why he is making this appeal to Transportation Engineer
Hathaway, is because he is the new Transportation Engineer. He should make every effort
possible to ensure that people are able to access anywhere in the City that they may need to
go. Although, compared to other comparable size cities, Ithaca is way ahead in that area.
Transportation Engineer Hathaway responded that when Ithaca is compared to other cities
similar in size, for example, Binghamton who completed 800’ of sidewalk last year; the City did
nearly two miles of sidewalks. Everyone needs to understand that sidewalks in the City of
Ithaca are an expensive and long-term problem. He hopes, within the next couple of years,
when its sidewalk inventory is complete that he will be able to better tell how the City should be
overseeing the creation and maintenance of accessible sidewalks and curb ramps.
DAC Member Rappaport questioned whether the curbs at West Clinton and Fayette Street and
South Cayuga and State Streets have been repaired.
Transportation Engineer Hathaway responded that it would be better to ask Director of
Engineering Logue that question because he oversaw those projects. However, relatively
speaking, those intersections are more accessible than other areas around the City and so he
would be reluctant to tear them up at this point. The City is aware that the transition between
asphalt and curbs needs to be smoothed out better, and they do plan to take care of the
intersection at West Clinton and Fayette Street this year.
DAC Member Rappaport stated that during the meeting he pulled up the links for information
about the number of required on-street accessible spaces when there are metered spaces.
The regulations indicate that there should be one accessible meter for every twenty-five
metered spaces, which seems pretty straight forward rules, and every perimeter of a block
should have a certain number of accessible spaces. If there are businesses, the spaces
should be near them, and if a block has more than 100 parking spaces then the rules change.
He noted that there are accessible parking spaces going up East Buffalo and East Seneca
Streets, but they are not near businesses.
Transportation Engineer Hathaway responded that he would be evaluating all of them to make
sure they are in the right space. He will also follow up with New York State about the
intersections at Route 13 and Wood Street as well as West Clinton and Fayette Streets and
ensure that the signs are put up at the back of parking spaces designated as accessible.
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DAC member McElrath, as liaison to the Bicycle Pedestrian Advisory Council (BPAC), reported
that he received an e-mail from one of the members of BPAC. It concerns 101 Linn Street
where the sidewalk is being obstructed by vegetation. The BPAC member has talked
repeatedly to the Exterior Maintenance Inspector about it, and has been informed that the foot
traffic there isn’t high enough to warrant a ticket for the obstruction. The BPAC member
wanted the DAC to know to see if they might be able to provide input to the inspector about the
importance of maintaining clear access for everyone on the sidewalks.
Transportation Engineer Hathaway responded that it is a civil right for everyone to have at
least a 4’ wide accessible space on the sidewalk. He stated that he would talk with the
Exterior Maintenance Inspector about the situation.
Adjournment:
On a motion the meeting adjourned at 1:30 p.m.
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Sarah L. Myers, Larry Roberts,
Information Management Specialist Chair of Disability Advisory Council