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HomeMy WebLinkAboutMN-SMC-1985 1THq 4.�ir�firr♦ i.11 'V= II� : 4.„ e4:4,0" '�°ORA7E0- CITY OF ITHACA 108 EAST GREEN STREET ITHACA, NEW YORK 14950 TELEPHONE: 272-1713 COMMON COUNCIL CODE 607 TC : Six Mile Creek Overseer Committee FROM : Carolyn Peterson "e om ti P DATE : February 19 , 1985 RE : Next meeting Attendance at the February 4 meeting included Pete Novelli, Buzz Levine , David Buether, L artin Sampson, Beth Mulholland , Edna Clausen, Dick Fischer, Peter Lovi , Carolyn Peterson The Committee looked at two maps , both very good ones. Pete Novelli had a 1950 map of the watershed that included -DPW features and property lines . Peter Lovi successfully en- larged 1978 topo maps of the watershed . Me" Committee agreed on a 400 scale for all maps . Pete T'ovelli said that the Com- mittee could probably rely on his staff to perform some of the transfering of lines from map to map since the City could use a good base map anyway. Pete and Peter will discuss the best methods of combining the different maps . Gorge research guidelines Above 60 foot dam, permission is required for research acti- vities . Below the dam, the area is open but notification of a project and any additional input is requested in order to develop future appropriate guidelines . P:oved by Beth Seconded by David Passed unanimously The gorge ranger specifications were modified to reflect up- dating. roved by Bud . Seconded by Peter Lovi . Passed unani- mouly. Ycu.th project Fete Fovelli listed three areas for possible :^pork by troubled youth. They are a Fabian structure for the bank in the hem- lock woods (" 2000) , restoration of aconcrete retaining wall i •~'� 0 ) , and shorinn- un the parking lot area.. The County and J $+ate have money for stream ben'c st?bil? z t? on with 50�': match funding. Applications are available in February through the ,,ni cipa.li S1. David �uether noted that he - s concerned about the natural _area no+ running its course . 'h- new tre '_1 ] ':,op for Circle =r_eenway received only one ob- j otion frori Carolyn re-terson. The was concerned about making such a special area part of the public trail system. ..,__ -.. ,...... __�.._._:..........:.,: :. ._.�.�,.........;.......�.. a .....:.. w. ....` ... ..u...-.a. .. �... .: ......,...._ . .. .. +•-..__J Bud Gerkin will continue to monitor the progress of signage for the preserve through his role as a BPW commissioner. Pete Novelli reported that the size of the sludge lagoons has been reduced by 15% and will have a fall construction date in order that the insect study could be completed . The lagoons will be on the flat area and not on the banks. The old 20" raw water line will be used instead of new pipe . . A discussion on addition- al parking at the lagoon site or at VanNatta 's pumphouse followed . Buzz Levine mentioned that the new Burns Road bridge would be si?- il ar to the Giles Street bridge . Peter Lovi made a presentation on the new configuration of buildings at Commonland. Members brought up points of visual intrusion from the gorge ,more buildings near the slide area, and drainage . The next meeting is on March 4 at 7 :30 p.m. in the third floor conference room of City Fall . Letters have been sent to law en"orcement agencies for a discussion on the ranger 's communi- cation problems .to take place at this meeting. Cther agenda itcw.s include committee and liaison reports , gorge ranger 1985 , ycuth project. 3 I k cht • �RA?iFO CITY OF ITHACA 108 EAST GREEN STREET ITHACA, NEW-YORK 14850 TELEPHONE: 272-1713 COMMON COUNCIL CODE 607 TO : Six Wile Creek Overseer Committee FRC %: Carolyn Peterson Co DATE : March 21 , 19 85 RE : Ir'eeting summary, next meeting- 1 Summary of March 11 meeting Present : Fischer., Clausen, Mulholland , Sampson, Peterson, Semmler, Gerkin, Ruether, Levine ,Lovi, Gorge ranger Rubaii, Fire Chief Reeves , Personnel Administrator Best, Police Chief Herson, Student intern Partridge Radio communications for the gorge ranger were discussed . Chief Reeves said that he had spoken with County Disaster Coordinator Jack riller about this issue . They felt that the best solution would be a :otorola UHF portable radio with charger. The radio would operate on the fire department frequency with direct links to fire control, police and sheriff, and the rescue squad. There is a transmitter at Ithaca College . Direct communication to DPW could be a little more difficult but possible through messages or phone patches . The radio could be purchased through the County on their contract. The following resolution was moved by Buzz Levine and seconded by David Ruether: The City should pursue purchase of a Motorola UHF radio with charger and compatible with fire control . The purchase should be made through the County Disaster Coordinator. A pre-test of the equipment should be performed in Six Mile Gorge before purchase . Passed unanimously Bud Gerkin will bring this resolution to the Board of Public Works . The Gorge ranger job specifications were amended to reflect Civil Service regulations . ':Moved by Fischer, seconded by Sampson, Passed ur. niously. It was su-gested that the items that were deleted- such flexible schedule , carrying a first aid 'cit, etc .- should be written up es aresource for the Department of Public Works . ub� t.i „a._ given a deadline o April 1 to decide if she would to cont'7'.1e f-orce ranrcr __. 1 )F35 . ul:^Gil r~ re-oc rted for Ciro]_' sroenw y.7he new s ; mare is 11-0 . trouble v.. ith on-e clean up has An Equal Opportunity Employer,v,tn a- Aftirr^a':ve Action Program" two- been completed . Circle Greenway has written a letter to the Superin- tendent of Public Works that lists concerns about the youth con- struction project in Six Mile Gorge Circle Greenway feels that the plans are too vague and that more details need to be worked out before construction starts. Circle Greenway asked for the 6MCCC 's support for the letter. Support was given unanimously. Circle Greenway has completed the maps for existing trails. Peter Lovi presented a report on Possible new gorge entrances . (A list was handed out at the committee meeting. ) Therewere discussion and questions regarding the development of landlocked property on Slaterville Road . This subject will be continued at the April meeting. FEAT 1 FETING APRIL 1 1985 (no fooling! ) 7 :30 p.m. conference room, City Hall AGENDA Yew entrances Conservation easements, zones Gorge ranger response Vap progress Liaison reports Committee future • c.ti�; 1i► -FL s�tlt f righll .� ,''q�JtA7E0== CITY OF ITHACA 10B EAST GREEN STREET ITHACA, NEW YORK 14850 TELEPHONE: 272-1713 COMMON COUNCIL CODE 607 TO : Six Mile Creek Overseer Committee FRC : Carolyn Peterson DATE : April 26,1985 RE : next meeting The next greeting will be at 7 :30 p.m. on 1'fay 6 in the third floor conference room. Agenda items include discussion on access points from 7oute 79 , continued discussion on the committee 's future, com- mittee reoorts ,and the form of a final report . Notes from the April 1 mettir_g Present : Gerkin, Fischer, Levine , Hovelli, Buether,i',ulholland ,Peterson The following motion was made by Dick Fischer and seconded by Bud. Gerkin : The gorge ranger should start as soon as possible but cer- tainly by the weekend of Pia;; 4 . The ranger should work week- ends only until traffic calls for fulltime attendance. Passed unanimously Beth :°ulholland will draft a list of ranger requirements that are necessary to the job but do not appear on the job specification list. Bud Gerkin reported' success with the UHF radio in Six Mile Gorge . He will bring a resolution supporting purchase of the radio to the Board of Public Works on April 10. The maps are still being worked on. After trails are completely marked in on the Circle Greenway maps they can he transferred to the DPW 's base map. Beth will check air photos as a resource . -;yet- y"yoveili said that the reoorts on 30 ' and 60 ' dams are available. The orelimina.ry d ra'."i i ng.s of the sludge _,. r''oons are also ready. It :vas noted that the footbridce on the u- ;per Giles ?treet trail needs re os l r and that the ^;atehou.-e should be bog rded to 1rrven' access . -e su '^'esto that the new vato'r rl .. -. ooerat''r could help mon,arre the =.tershe`' area. it az, P rer;? that the C.7m711i,tF," ^02".± ??lL:e Y: some form . The ,rocee to ove_ , �7F.,;e1_ _ : . re :reat:ion, ani to moor- :'."?ete e t?vities in _relate' areas o' the water s upply system and. to ' ;roloo long range plan. Dave ''uether stron-ly argued for a Commission to act as an umbrella organization for all parks. "An Equal Opportunity Employer with an Affrmatb:e Action Program' apt ITtyq" �4 .ti��- ryIAe=is t�lfl 4RAt�O=" - CITY OF ITHACA 108 EAST GREEN STREET ITHACA, NEW YORK 14850 TELEPHONE: 272-1713 COMMON COUNCIL CODE 607 TO Six Mile Creek Overseer Committee FROM: Carolyn Peterson - DATE : June 3, 1995 RE : Next-meeting #� A?ext meeting June 10, 8:00 p.m. Conference room �'e Proposed agenda P Announcements Seating of a new member- Steve Baker, Water Filtration Plant Chief Operator Gorge ranger report Subcommittee updates- Route 79 access Gorge ranger committee Cther reports- Circle Greenway City engineer Town planner County planner Notes from the May 6 meeting Present : Peterson, Lovi, yovelli, Clausen, Fischer, iuether, Gerkin, Mulholland , Levine Bud. Gerkin reported that the purchase order for the UHF radio is in. It will take 12 to 14 weeks for delivery. The County Disaster office is loaning the City a radio until then. A holster is neededto carry the radio and it was noted that the radio must be carried at all times. Bud reported that no youth project work has started . Pete Novelli will look into the project 's status . Route 79 access - A lengthy discussion on access from Route 79 fo- cused on the merits of an idea to map a highway and small subdivision on the Guidi property in order to control development. Peter Lovi proposed this idea because the Town will try to prevent landlocking and because it was felt that development is inevitable and properly planned development that includes open space agreements or conservation easements would better protect the watershed . The proposal also names thrEe potential Circle Greenway trails to Route 79 . ?eterson, Ituether, and :' ovelli strongly- felt that no develop- r nt should be encouraged . The city n Rinser noted strong objections to the nor.d and re-orientation of bi: dings at Commonland , especially it relation to the proximity to the water3hed bourdaries , and also to ▪i.rrs -toad relocation. He was ver,r '.ar-r about the Town promotin;- a. c-.he' project adjacent to the watershed . Peter con did not agree on thr n,.cd to prevent landloc: ing .-uz Levine agreed with I.oui 'a cohcept ara moved that the plan cee reverse side 'An Equal Opportunity Employer vv t,an Affirmative Action Program" be pursued because development is inevitable and conservation ease ments are worth looking into. This was Seconded by Fischer but later withdrawn in favor of the following motion. Moved by Ruether, seconded by Novell! Route 79 access should be approached in two stages . The Committee should explore with Sweet, Baker, etal . , through survey and informa- tion rathering, what they would like to see done with their land in relation to Circle Greenway access , development, and watershed protec- tion. The second stage would be to eventually obtain a conservation easement, working with the City Attorney. Passed unanimously. Peter Novi requested that the following motion be kept "on hold Resolved that the bI;'COC feels that lands north of the existing water- shed owned by Sweet, etal . , are sensitive and important. and that any development should be considered carefully. Recognizing that, we re- quest that the Town Planner work with Circle Greenway, the City Attor- ney, and others to investigate instruments such as conservation ease- ments , open space agreements , and highway mapping to provide for the preservation of valuable scenic qualities of this area in a manner that doesn 't unduly compromise development rights of existing landowners . Peth rill investigate trail option "C" . 3 -OF ITtlq�ti, Cg r4 s CITY OF ITHACA 108 EAST GREEN STREET ITHACA, NEW YORK 14950 TELEPHONE: 272-1713 COMMON COUNCIL CODE 607 Six Mile Creek Overseer Committee Meetl c Notes 6/10/85 Present : Peterson, Mulholland, Sampson_, Clailsen, Levine, Baker, Gerkin, Ruether, Fischer, Gorge 'anger Rubaii The Committee unanimously seated Steve Baker, Chief Filtration Plant Operator, on the committee . Bud Gerkin, proposed to place "pooper scoopers" at the gorge entrance to encourage people to clean up after their pets . After discussion on excessive regulations, misuse of the utensil, and high rate of loss, a two month trial period was agreed to by the committee. The gorge ranger reported that swimming was the predominant viola- tion, especially below Van Natta 's day , and that most violators were first time offenders . She stated statediiiat her presence is enough to keep people out of .the water. She now has the small first aid kit. Concern was raised over all night parking ir_=the Giles Street lot. Signage against parking alinight should probably be erected. It is difficult to know if someone is in danger if anyone can park there at all hours. It was suggested that if anyone wants to know Munna 's hours that a good response would be that she is on duty always from noon to 4 on Saturday and Sunday and has flexible hours the rest of the week. The Committee unanimously moved to amend the 2/4 and 5/6 minutes to include more detailed remarks about Common_land development as made by Pete '"ovelli. (see enclosed ) Initial responses to the 6i;-COO survey were shared . :uestionnaires will eventually be distributed to all neighbors of the gorge . The memo from Peter Lovi regarding the planning proposal on Route 79 was shared . The committee felt that the proposal was considerably changed and that the 6 "COC did not have the chance to review the substantive change of elimination of the conservation component from the p r;vvvsGy. It was agreed thut vn strongly worded letter be f 1 T[ia. ^dPj to the Town Board outlining our concerns. Steve Baker stated that the old watershed law needs updating and that he would. be walking through the area with environmental health direc- tor Andersson. _ Circle Greenway is holding back on a path request . They received poles from the Belle Sherman playground project. Andrea Lazarski, the neighborhood plenner, has completed some initial work on private properties within Six rile Creek 's trail system. An Equal Opportunity Employer with an Affirmatwe Action Program 4Ug-g sF , � �„�• %� r�Ft1� CITY OF ITHACA 108 EAST GREEN STREET ITHACA, NEW YORK 14850 OFFICE OF DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WORKS TELEPHONE: 272-1713 PETER D. NOVELLI, P.E. CODE 607 CITY ENGINEER MEMORANDUM To: Carolyn Peterson, Chair Six Mile Creek Overseer Committee From: Peter D. Novelli PP/kJ Re: Minutes of Meetings of February 4, 1985 and May 6, 1985 Date: June 5, 1985 I wish to correct the minutes of the above meetings to include my statements regarding proposed changes in the configuration of buildings at Commonland. - At the February 4 meeting, Mr. Lovi requested comments from the committee concerning the changes at Commonland; these were to have been presented to the Ithaca Town Planning Board on February 5. I stated that the close proximity of the buildings and the pond to the slope (and the associated disturbance caused by this development) could aggravate the natural process of soil slides in this area. I expected this concern to be conveyed to the Town Planning Board. Of course, the proposal sub- sequently received pat approval from the Planning Board. At the May 6 meeting, I again stated that the occurrence of slides is a natural process along the Six Mile Creek gorge, and that the Commonland development as presently being built would almost certainly aggravate these processes and could cause additional failures. Inasmuch as dwellings are now being constructed on this potentially - unstable area and this could affect not only the safety of the inhabitants but the integrity of the City's raw water transmission main below, I would have hoped that my comments had been conveyed to Town officials for con- sideration. After all , the Six Mile Creek Overseer Committee is the appropriate forum for discussion of matters such as this, and the Town has its own representative on the committee. If the Town had performed even a cursory review of the Commonland development as now proposed (especially as regards the siting of buildings and a pond in close proximity to the slope) one would think that revisions to the plan would have been required by the Town. An Equal Opportunity Employer with an Affirmative Action Program” y ITHq90 de.,1_< CITY OF ITHACA 108 EAST GREEN STREET ITHACA, NEW YORK 14850 TELEPHONE: 272-1713 COMMON COUNCIL CODE 607 June 20, 1985 Dear Town Board member, The Six Mile Creek Overseer Committee is submitting the follow- ing comments for the record on the planning proposal regarding Private properties on Slaterville Road( titled "Planning Report : Slaterville Road Highway Plan, June 10,1985 , Peter Lovi, Town Planner" ). The Committee had extensive discussions on this issue with Peter boy! at several consecutive Six Mile Creek Overseer Committee(6r:'COC ) meetings. The Committee 's comments were not re- laye . to the Town Board . More importantly, the proposal was con- siderably changed from what we were told would be presented to the Board., notably the omission of any plans for preserving the valuable natural amenities of Six Mile _Gorge . Peter Lovi himself worded the folloirg=resolution and told the 6::`COC that its content would be essentially unchanged in his proposal to you. i'llesolved� that the 6ECCC feels that lands north of the existing watershed ovr_ed by Sweet et.al . , are sensitive and important and that any development should be considered carefully. Recognizing that , we recuest that the Town Planner work with Circle Greenway, the City Attorney, and others to investigate instruments such as conservation easements , open space agreements, and highway manning to provide for the preservation of valuable scenic qualities of this area in a manner that doesn 't unduly compromise development rights of existing landowners . " Peter asked the 6".'CGC to keen this resolution "on hold" for future consideration. The Committee suuported a different resolution instead, that is , to proceed first with a general survey of the landowners (see enclosed ) with the view of obtaining conservation easements in the future . - -o 'proceed with highway map-)_ - and plannin_: for future resi- d ^tial development without specific :.Tana for conservation ease- rents , Open a?sce agreements , or similar instruments to preserve The valuable qualities of Six Mile Gorge is both a complete reversal of Peter 's resolution and is unacceptable to the 6t:°COC • All pro- posals to pursue substantial buffering f^om: :atershed boundaries 17e7e One of the most promising suc h proposals was to pur- sue policy of trading off higher density near the road for open An Equal Opportunity Employer with an A l rmat:ve Action Program" space at the backland. This committee and City officials feel grossly misled by the Town planner, who is your official repre- I sentative to the Committee . All attempts at coordinating City and Town efforts in this area were fully ignored. We strongly feel that the "problem statement" should also include that the planning concern is not only access to the back lands, but to preserve the watershed area from uncontrolled development by cooperatively working with landowners, the Town, and the City to obtain conservation easements or other such instruments. This too should be added to Staff 's directives on working in this planning area. Sincerely, e, yt P Carolyn Peterson, Chair Six Mile Creek Overseer Committee • • s = aY- s �. CITY OF I THACA 108 EAST GREEN STREET ITHACA, NEW YORK 14950 TELEPHONE: 272-1713 COMMON COUNCIL CODE 607 Six Mile Creek Cverseer Comeittee June 3, 1985 Dear Six Mile Creek Gorge neighbor, The Six Mile Creak Overseer Committee is seeking your feedback and ideas about the Six Mile Gorge watershed and the gorge ranger program and how it affects your neighborhood . The Committee is an advisory board responsible for overseeing the management of Six Mile Gorge , working closely with Circle Greenway. This in- clues the gorge ranger, public access, environmental monitoring, and future usage and development . We feel that your- input on the following issues will be helpful in fostering good relations be- tween the watershed users and adjacent property owners . We great- ly appreciate your comments. If you have any questions , Please call Carolyn Peterson, Committee chair, 272-8129, or :Beth L ulhollar_d, Circle Greenway chair, at 273-4295. Thank you. (, 144 ueL P. 06 1 . Do you feel that the watershed is an asset to your neighbor- hood? Please explain your reasons . 2 . Do you think there are enough official access points and park- ing areas for the gcr=e?{Parking on Giles Street, access on Niles, Pudson, and Columbia. ; Would you like to see access. on Route ?9? • 3 . .?o you view your neighborhood as suitable for additional hous- ing development? 4 . :that do you think of a " buffering" zone between the watershed lands and housing development ? 5 . Please include any id-gas or comments en :six Mile Gorge manage- mert. �e- -urn -k above address C/C Clet cly n Pei ec eft . An Equal Opportunity Employer w;.'a' r•nrmative Acton Program' • 4...•4 is '7/1oq,•,M. ...'&; CITY OF ITHACA 1 0 EAST GREEN STREET ITHACA, NEW YORK 14850 TELEPHONE: 272-1713 COMMON COUNCIL CODE 607. TO : Six Mile Creek Overseer Committee FROM Carolyn Peterson DATE : July 29 , 1985 f RE : Next meeting The next meeting will be August 5 , at 7 :30 p.m. , in the conference room. Agenda items include report on surveys, report from the town on progress of plans regarding Slaterville Road, gorge ranger report, youth work in the Six Mile Gorge area. "eeting notes of July 8 Present : Clausen, Baker, Mulholland , Gerkin, Ruether, Levine, Pope , Gorge Ranger Rubaii, Peterson Excused : Sampson, Novelli, Fischer, Lovi The June 10 minutes were accepted unanimously. Streambank project- Plan #2 is underway,—with some temporary de- lays due to materials request beyond budget. There were a number of strong reservations over the feasibility and environmental impacts of the project, especially with regard to disruption of the trail system, disturbance of forest vegetation, and the strong possibility of floods tearing it out anyway. It was suggested that rail ties already near the site be used as tie-ins to the bank. There should also be more money allocated in the 1986 budget for such work. Gorge ranger- The new radio is in. The 4th of July weekend saw an increase in camping, litter, and partying, with swimming and jumping less of a problem than the parties . Fore time is being spent below Giles Street. During discussion, it was suggested that the new landslide area, which now has running water coming down it, needs stabilization. The committee returned briefly to dicussion of streambank pro- jects . The following motion was made by Levine , seconded by Ruether and passed 7-0-1 . It is recommended that Plan 2 use pressure treated materials that are deposited at the parking area in place of deadfalls if at all possible to ensure a far superior project . Consultation with Circle Greenway on this matter is necessary. 'eth said that Circle Greenway would likp 4 more parking spaces, due tc ocassional heavy parking. Discussion focused on the "old" Giles -trE e t lot, the lagoon area, and the idea that J esn par=ing helps to attendance down and encourages `E 1 :1 MTBA7CE- Bud moved , and Fuzz second' d ,. the acceptance o' a qreenway exit through h '.�rone,..ty. Passed 7-0-1 . An Equal Opportunity Empioyer v. aa.Atf rmative Action Program" o ?Na • 1s�`•trci "Yrc s• min �� rr''9p�RA'tE0 . CITY OF ITHACA 108 EAST GREEN STREET ITHACA, NEW YORK 14930 TELEPHONE: 272-1713 COMMON COUNCIL CODE 607 TO Six Mile Creek Overseer Committee FRCM: Carolyn Peterson BATE,: September 3 , 1985 RE : \'\Le. t meeting The next 6YCCC meeting is September. 9 at 7 :30 p.m. in the third floor conference room. Agenda items include report from the gorge ra.r. er, report on Slaterville Poad survey, and discussion on the Com- ittee 's focus for the rest of 1985 . Notes from the August 5 meeting • Yreeent : Peterson, quether, %'ulholland , Ge.kin, Baker, Fischer, Levine , Lovi, Rubaii Tinutes of the July meeting were accepted . The gorge ranger reported that more cards are needed and that parking areas should be listed . There was an increase in camping and night use , especially Thursday through Saturday and at 30 foot and Van Natta 's dams . Signage is needed to indicate that the area is closed at night. Munna will arrange a walkthrough for law enforcement and safety agencies to familiarize them with the gorge. Signage should read "No bicycle riding" in addition to "No ve- hicles" . The "No swimming" sign at Van Natta 's is still obscured. There should be a major sign down to Van Natta 's and below. Steve Baker discussed the slide area, the foot bridge on the upper Giles Street path, and the gatehouse at 30 foot dam. He and the City P'ngineer are working on these problems . Peter Lovi is currently collecting data on the Slaterville Road plan and will continue on it throurh the month of August. The sub co=ittee workinT on the survey of that area will try to collect more responses in preparation for a report . ',rile Greenway rep_ orted tha+, the Youth projects have been com- r-_ptrd and that it looks C . York is continuing with Sweet and. ''over on an exit to -?outs " . ns '.o ad will re°oo r. th veer and will be reforested . bud,�'et ;ter ^ 'or l'"' ir.clude r prap for bank contain- at the lot, ?1are , furthe- t-•e.i_l protection, and Bible stream -'.iversion. following of t o made b T ruether, secon ,r d b T'i Scher, anr? ed 7-0-1 . Ee.. r•rre t^ .,ar:? of Public The 6i';".CC recommen . o -)urchese of the Jand farce-mil East of Worland and horderin;• Potter 's Falls to protect the watershed. An Faual Opportur Emo,oyar with an A",rmat ve Action Program O�iT1iq~ • 'V!_Eir !rc I. ill 2 la. 5i •56. • 9 c��paRA[E��% CITY OF ITHACA 108 EAST GREEN STREET ITHACA, NEW YORK 14850 TELEPHONE: 272-1713 COMMON COUNCIL CODE 607 Six Mile Creek Cverseer Committee Minutes of September 9, 1985 Present : Peterson, Clausen, Ruether, Mulholland , Sampson, Levine, Gerkin, Baker, Gorge Ranger Rubaii p"irutes of July were accepted . Gorge ranger report runny stopped working full time after Labor Day and will work weekends only through September. Very few people had been out until the past weekend. (Sept . 77,8). Assistance from the City Police was required to disband a large Party below Van Natta's . The situation was cleared UP and the next day was more calm. Thirty foot dam was calm with its usual responsible crowd . Another incident that apparently involved-life safety officers occurred and the ranger was not notified of the event. The Com- mittee urges consistent two way ^om-nunication between the ranger and life safety agencies to make sure each party is always up to date on problems in the gorge . A scheduled walk through with the police and sheriff departments did not occur because they did not show UP. The vine covered sign on the mill building at Van Fatta was attempted to be cleared but it did not succeed . MCTTCr : Made by Ruether, seconded by Levine, passed 8-0 The 6z CCC urge: the Public Works Department to secure the Van `"a.tta 's pumphouse and the 30 foot dam gatehouse to Pre- vent access. Sent to Board of Public Works Signage- Beth and Bud stated that they have been talking with the sign shop and have made aplan for placement of new signs, removing old signs , and improving existins signage .New No swim- ming signs will be placed at the two entrances to Van Natta 's and at the pool 's edge. Water System report- Steve reported that the silt in 30 foot dam err more problematic this year and that (DO foot dam may be dredged in t o `years . The new lard Slide area was surveyed and core samples taken. The leaking pip_ e was .repaired , but since it a -nears that the pipe is retain nr the hill , stabilization of the area will be need; d in the future . The lagoon construction bids are in. Cne lagoon must be operational by the end of 1985 . The Slater-*;lle Road survey res•.'is , ere distributed . the corn- mittee suggested sending pies to the respondents and to solicit in;,ut on a.°^ropni to programs a.:=" :policy. Buzz note!', that comments on a h"Iro plant at 60 foct dam are due 'a 3^ r .. 00,. _. for 1 : 1:.oute 7; access , surveys , °utu_e youth projects , utid_. An=- the watershed rules an' regulations o_f 198, adjusting jot requirewents as neede for the gorge ranger "An Equal Opportunity Employer ,. an Affirmative Action Program" Six M ile Creek Cverseer Corrr ittee Minutes Cctober 7, 1985 Present : Ruether, Levine , Baker, Gerkin, Sampson, Vulholland, Clausen, Gorge ranger Fubaii, Karen Anderson, Peterson • The minutes of September were approved unanimously. Karen Anderson, from the Ithaca Youth Bureau, explained the cur-. _ rent activities with youth in the gorge area. These include new games, hiking, ropes activities , rapelling, and tag. There are three groups of 6 to 8 kids and a group of 15-20 kids from the. Alternative Community School. The entire gorge area is used. Bud asked that items that are placed in the gorge be removed. Karen explained that the,rope ladder is removed daily and that the log balance .beam is removed at the end of the season. Peterson requested that the Committee be informed of the activities and where they tae place. The youths access the area differently_ each time. Beth was concerned that Ric Dietrich does not abide by passive gorge use regulations. Karel distributed copier of a plan for future gorge activities. 'urea Rubaii reported a quiet September. She recommended bike racks, lire safety tours, and noted that as the lone ranger, she felt overburdened in July and August. I7unna is willing to assist a new ranger with training. A thank you letter will be sent to Munna. A letter from the Department of the Interior regarding full recrea- tional use at 60 foot dam was discussed . Helen Jones is in the pro- cess of rebutting this request. It was noted that hydro construc- tion doesn 't change our recreational uses in the area and that the 1936 watershed law is very pertinent. Steve Baker reported that our watershed law is outdated . Laws pre- ceding 1970 are considered ineffective. New problems and pollutants now exist and old problems are no longer present . Discussion over who should draft the ordinance was varied . Steve will ask Peter ITovelli and the BPW for guidance on this is sue . The lagoon con- struction has commenced and could be done by the end of the year. Ruether raised the issue of landscaping. Steve noted that the 30' gatehouse is now secure. - Beth suggested that the City be notified that Munna is now off duty and that the area needs attention on weekends . She supports the bike rack idea. Bud and Beth will be clearing areas for new signage to be erected . She noted that the new trail embankment is losing its ton stones again_. Buy. Gerkir_recorted that the acquisition of the property on Route 7� above Potters Falls was discussed at the PP ;. Jack Dougherty will look into it prior to turnin_- it over to the Planning Board .