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Disability Advisory Council Meeting Minutes
September 2, 2015
Present:
Chair Roberts
DAC Members:
Rappaport
Brock
Scriber
Dragovich
Sember-Chase
Others Present:
Information Mgt. Specialist – Myers
Director of Parking – Nagy
Sidewalk Program Manager - Hathaway
Excused:
DAC Members Anderson and Gizewski
Introductions:
Chair Roberts and everyone made introductions to one another.
Approval of Minutes:
Approval of the August 5, 2015 Disability Advisory Council Meeting Minutes - Resolution
By DAC Member McElrath: Seconded by DAC Member Rappaport
RESOLVED, That the minutes of the August 5, 2015 Disability Advisory Council meetings be
approved as published.
Carried Unanimously
Updates:
Chair Roberts reported that Director of Planning, Building, Zoning and Economic Development
Cornish is collecting names for the committee which will be reviewing the Commons new
playground. He stated that DAC Member Rappaport has volunteered to serve on the committee
on behalf of the Disability Advisory Council. At this point, no meeting has been set up yet.
There has been a lot of strong support from Common Council to make changes and move
ahead with them. Director of Planning, Building, Zoning and Economic Development Cornish
has talked with the designers of the playground and they want to be part of discussions as well.
Chair Roberts stated that currently, there is a bus service that provides a direct trip from Ithaca
to New York City; including one that provides a direct route campus to campus from Cornell
University. The buses are nice and there is one that is also accessible; however DAC Member
Sember-Chase has raised some concerns about its accessibility. DAC Member Sember-Chase
reported that she had asked if the new bus is going to be accessible and emailed Kevin
Sutherland, Chief of Staff for the City of Ithaca, to ask and has not heard back yet. The
Cornell campus-to-campus bus is the bus is not the most accessible because one has
to make sure to reserve that bus in advance and sometimes even when doing so, they
send the wrong bus: That is why it is so important to her that the new Bullet bus is
accessible from the start.
it is not the best service as you have to make a reservation for the accessible bus, and even
then, sometimes the appropriate bus is not sent. Both she and Chair Roberts have reached out
through e-mail to Kevin Sutherland, Chief of Staff for the City of Ithaca, regarding these
concerns and are waiting to hear back from him. Hopefully, that will be before he leaves the City
of Ithaca on September 21, 2015, as he has taken a job elsewhere.
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Discussion Regarding the New Park and Pay Stations and Accessible Parking
Spaces with Director of Parking Nagy
Director of Parking Nagy joined the Council for discussion of these items.
Chair Roberts stated that Director of Parking Nagy attended the DAC’s August meeting to
discuss accessibility concerns and the new pay stations. The pay stations are accessible, and
the concern has been more about the distance from the accessible parking space to the pay
stations.
Common Council Liaison Brock stated that she would also like to talk about accessibility in the
Seneca Street parking garage, and the need to install hand rails on stairways between levels.
Director of Parking Nagy responded that this item is on his "to do" list and should be completed
soon – before the end of the year. He also stated that another concern had been raised by the
DAC regarding whether the stairs could be replaced with a ramp. He did investigate that with
the City’s Engineer who explained that due to the required slope for a ramp in that area, it just
would not be possible.
Chair Roberts stated that he would like to bring to the attention of the City a situation he has
encountered on the new Commons. He appreciates all the work that has been done and for the
smoother surface; however, he has noticed that where the gas lines are located, there are little
insets that sit above the pavers which create a tripping hazard. These insets are located
throughout the Commons and are about a 1 to 1 ½ inches.
Director of Parking Nagy responded that he would add that to the list of items that Commons
Project Manager, Michael Kuo, will need to address before his contract with the City of Ithaca
for the construction of the Commons is closed out at the end of September. Common Council
Liaison Brock stated that she would strongly encourage city staff to make sure that items such
as these are taken care of and signed off on by Mr. Kuo prior to closing that contract.
Chair Roberts also noted that he has heard that some people with vision issues have
encountered problems related to the changing of the grade on the Commons which leads up to
the Bernie Milton Pavilion in Bank Alley. He stated that there needs to better visual indication of
the slope to alert pedestrians accordingly so they do not trip and get injured. DAC Member
Rappaport explained that he has noticed that inside buildings, there is a requirement for
contrasting colors going from the floor to the stairway; this is not the case on the Commons in
the area leading up the pavilion. He has witnessed some people stumbling there as well; he is
not sure if this concern is on the list for Project Manager Kuo to address before his contract is
closed; or whether it can be changed at this point. It is a concern that does need to be
addressed by the City of Ithaca.
DAC Member Rappaport reported that he is happy that the parking meters have been replaced
at accessible parking spots. However, he noted that when they were missing, the allowed area
for a parking space was not clearly delineated and there was nothing to keep other cars from
encroaching upon more than one parking spot. That meant, in some cases, there wasn’t room in
the accessible space for a car to park.
DAC Member Rappaport requested that both the front and back of the parking space be clearly
delineated; and that accessible signage be in place there to indicate that payment could be
made either at the meter or pay station, whichever would be more convenient.
Director of Parking Nagy stated that he has requested that DPW crews place a second meter
head on a pole on North Aurora Street. Until then, he will look for a "free" sign to place on the
post temporarily until the meter head can be replaced. That may resolve some of the issues
being encountered now on the street. He also reported that the parking brochures have been
updated already as a result of comments and suggestions made at the last DAC meeting.
He stated that both he and Transportation Engineer Logue would like to attend a future DAC
meeting to obtain input as to where additional accessible parking spaces should be located
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around the city. He would like to have the information about where additional accessible
parking spaces should be located so that they can be marked at the same time the loading
zones are being marked around the City. He would like to have the information by the end of
fall, if not sooner.
Common Council Liaison Brock requested that the parking brochure/map be updated to show
all the public parking lots. For example, the parking lot next to Family Medicine, as well as by
City Hall. Director of Parking Nagy responded that the City’s GIS department could update the
maps in any way that might be needed for the brochures.
Chair Roberts noted that the DAC would strongly encourage the City to leave the meter heads
where the accessible parking spaces are located. That would give the public the option to pay at
the meter or the pay station. He also noted that at the last DAC meeting Ms. Pryor distributed
information about what other cities do to provide accessible parking spaces and how the public
pays to use them. That is something that should be explored further to see if there is something
that might work here in the City of Ithaca. Unless, there is some barrier that prevents people
from paying the meter. New York State has a special waiver for those individuals who physically
cannot pay the meter which requires their physician to complete a special application to submit
to the clerk where the individual lives to issue. There is no fee for the waiver, and it is valid for
one calendar year.
DAC Member Rappaport stated that the list that Ms. Pryor brought in was great, and suggested
that the DAC have a separate discussion about possible recommendations the City of Ithaca
might be able to implement for accessible parking spaces. He stated that the work done by
Parking Director Nagy is a good stop gap measure in the meantime.
Discussion followed on the floor regarding the height of the pay stations, and whether they
might be lowered; complaints have been received from people in wheelchairs who can't reach
them to make payment. Director of Parking Nagy responded that the pay stations can be
lowered, for about $500 a machine. He stated that when the second batch of pay stations are
ordered he can order the shorter ones. Another suggestion was to see whether it might be
possible, similar as to when you're at an ATM machine, to slant a screen to aid in seeing it
better. It was also noted that the height of the pay station could also be a problem for really tall
people as well. Director of Parking Nagy explained that there is no money left in the budget for
this year that could be used to lower the current pay stations. It could be done with next year's
budget when he places the order for the next batch of pay stations that would include the
shorter pay stations. He is also not sure what the budget will be for 2016, and is hoping to order
23 new pay stations. He planned, with the new pay stations, to first fill in locations that need
double stations; then to fill in the holes around the city with them. He also asked that if there are
specific pay stations that people are having trouble seeing to let him know because the
background color can be changed; that might be helpful to make it easier to see the screen for
some people. If the glare for someone in a wheelchair makes it difficult for them to use the pay
station, it would be interesting to see if it makes a difference if the background color was
changed.
Chair Roberts stated it sounds like the DAC is recommending that when the new pay stations
are ordered next year the shorter ones should be ordered. In addition, the City should keep
track of the complaints regarding the height of the current pay stations to see if they justify
lowering them sooner.
DAC Members expressed their support for that recommendation.
Further discussion followed on the floor regarding the three different “zones” around the City
where the rate for parking varies. Director of Parking Nagy stated that once the fee is paid in a
particular zone, and time is not used up, the person could also park anywhere else in the city for
the remaining paid time. He uses the various zones around the City as a means to determine
where revenue is being generated. He noted that if the City wanted to get really specific the
parking could be zoned street by street.
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DAC Member Rappaport noted that the accessible parking spaces in the Seneca Street parking
garage, where he parks, are not accessible right now. He said that the construction contractor’s
job trailer and the foreman are using them; and there is also dumpster placed there. Where
there is a temporary accessible parking space, it has no access aisle. He assumes there is a
required number of accessible parking spaces required in the garage, for during the
construction, but if the spaces don't have access aisles they won't work. In addition, he
frequently sees City vehicles in the accessible parking spaces. Director of Parking Nagy
responded that the contractor parking was set up through Engineer's Office, much against his
recommendation. The contractors are supposed to park in contractor's spot; not the general
public spots. He's addressed it with the appropriate staff, but it is still being allowed; fortunately,
the project should be completed by September 11th.
The members of the DAC expressed their thanks to Director of Parking Nagy for his time today
and assistance in helping to address their concerns.
Update from Sidewalk Program Manager - Hathaway
Sidewalk Program Manager Hathaway reported that he had a couple things to check in on with
the DAC right now. One is that right now crews are in the middle of construction of ramps and
sidewalks. If there is interest, at end of construction season and before it gets too cold, would
members of the DAC like to take a tour with him around the City to inspect the work? He is very
interested in the DAC’s input as to whether the work that has been completed thus far meets
their expectations. He can set up a time and take them to see a few typical sidewalks, and then
curb ramp areas where there is a bigger slope or landing area. He noted that it is one thing to
construct sidewalks that meet the standard requirements, but it is another thing as to whether
they are useful and meet the needs of everyone who use them. In addition, if anyone has seen
anything this year that sticks out as good, bad, or indifferent including concrete cutting, that their
input would be very valuable to him.
He further explained that for next years’ sidewalk construction plan, they conducted public
outreach in each of the five Sidewalk Improvement Districts (SID's). They were very successful
with a lot of people attending them. There was also one session that focused entirely on
accessibility issues. He asked that if members of the DAC had ideas on what other ways the
City could get feedback about sidewalks and the City’s sidewalk program, he would appreciate
their ideas and thoughts. Common Council Liaison Brock suggested that information on
upcoming information sessions be posted at local schools, and bus stops. Chair Roberts noted
that it is fairly inexpensive to have signs with information that could be placed on TCAT buses
(i.e. if anyone has problems with sidewalks - call _____). Other suggestions included an area
“Ithaca's Mom's” group, Senior Centers, Office for the Aging, Ithaca Area Congregations, and
the Human Services Coalition.
Sidewalk Program Manager Hathaway noted that he is also working with the City’s Bicycle
Pedestrian Advisory Council for input and suggestions. Suggestions for work thus far have
included: Chestnut/Elm Streets where sidewalks should be regraded, and the sidewalk in front
of City Hall. He further explained that, for now, the contractor will come in and level the sidewalk
in front of City Hall. That sidewalk is complicated related to underground vaults, and has been
the reason why it has not been repaired sooner. It will require some engineering
recommendations for a permanent repair. He stated that the long-term strategy, which will
shape how sidewalk projects are chosen and where the program should go next will always
require input from the DAC, which he values very much. He explained that he has developed
criteria for choosing locations for sidewalk work which will assist staff in determining their
importance, as well as a scoring system through the assistance of the City’s GIS staff.
The criteria includes: what is the sidewalk near, is the area located in an area with a higher
population density, does the sidewalk serve a government office/facility/school, public
transportation spots (has worked with TCAT), places of public accommodation (businesses) and
locations where people have requested sidewalks. Then, are there vertical displacements, less
than 4' in width, is the surface worn away (loose gravel) or is there a cross slope. Further, is
there a block that has all these problems and does it rank high using the established criteria?
This will be one of the basis for developing the next sidewalk work plan, and choosing the
locations for the work. In the future, he would like to use a scoring method and wherever a
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sidewalk falls in the scoring determines its’ priority. He thinks it's the most effective way to
increase accessibility every year around the City for everyone.
Common Council Liaison Brock suggested some other criteria to use would be sidewalks near
medical facilities, day care facilities, and businesses that cater to the elderly. In her opinion,
these should rate above businesses.
Chair Roberts stated that sidewalks in neighborhoods, especially north of Court Street and the
numbered streets are in terrible shape in terms of the condition. These sidewalks wouldn't
necessarily rise to a priority level through the proposed criteria to get on a priority work list. He
worries about when those places will be taken care of because they have not seen work since
the sidewalks were initially installed. There are also neighborhoods where there are no
sidewalks at all that should fit into some criteria for scoring.
Sidewalk Program Manager Hathaway responded that the City has a lot of room to re-organize
the criteria that determines priority. If it is decided that the condition of the sidewalk should be a
driving force then that can be done through the City’s GIS Department. He also noted that he
has a separate scoring system for those areas that don't have sidewalks. A missing sidewalk on
a dead-end street should not be a priority over other areas with no sidewalks. He reported that
the City completed about one to two miles of sidewalk work this year.
DAC Member Scriber stated that she has another question, based on what Chair Roberts
shared. When the City looks at an area, are there areas where people, for the most part, are
walking and so those sidewalks would be more important than those that people are more likely
to drive. Sidewalk Program Manager Hathaway responded that he has been working with
Tompkins County to conduct a pedestrian count to get an idea of where high pedestrian areas
are to assist in developing the sidewalk priority list. It is useful information that would need to be
balanced with other criteria.
DAC Members expressed their thanks to Sidewalk Program Manager Hathaway for his time and
information.
Discussion of Disability Advisory Council's Goals, Objectives, and Continuity:
Chair Roberts asked DAC members that if there are goals/objectives that they want to add to
current list to let him know. He will edit the current list and asked that everyone come to the
next meeting prepared to focus on the discussion of the DAC’s goals and objectives. It is
important to talk about them in an organized way, and about how the DAC wants to proceed in
the future. He also noted that the DAC is doing well with communicating with Sidewalk Program
Manager Hathaway and Director of Parking Nagy so he is pleased with that ongoing work and
communication with them.
DAC Member Rappaport stated the he has a high comfort level so that even if the DAC does
not meet with regularly with Sidewalk Program Manager Hathaway to talk about sidewalk
concerns that he has confidence in his method of setting up criteria and prioritizing the work.
Adjournment:
On a motion the meeting adjourned at 1:40 pm.
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Sarah L. Myers, Larry Roberts, Chair
Information Management Specialist